/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>57877101
>comfy in my fostex thx-00 purpleheart

Former M50 user here, now on sony 7506's. Thinking about getting another pair of M50's because I really liked the sound quality. Is there anything else in the sub $250 range that is better? (Don't really care about whether it is closed or open back) Will mainly use them for music+podcasts and youtube videos. I get a lot of use out of my headphones and wear them for long periods of time so comfort is semi important.

I have a pair of T1s and

wow thread is dead af. anyways

>Budget
30 bucks, flexible
>Location
America
>Source
Laptop, Iphone
>Type of headphone
iem. I need them as durable as I can get in this price range
>Comfort level
They need to be able to fit into small ear canals. Thats all I ask really
>Sound signature
Doesn't matter, as long as its decently clear. A bit bass-y or v shaped would be ideal, but anything is fine because durability is my main concern
>Past headphones
As far as iem's go, I've had 35 dollar Vsonics which were shit in my opinion and only lasted me a month. I also have a 10 dollar pair of Monoprice iem's which have lasted me much longer. I didn't care for the sound in either of them but like I said durability is my main concern

btw by flexible, I mean I'm willing to pay anything if its worth the price, maybe upwards to 60 bucks or so if you showed me something virtually indestructible

>>57877541
Dt770s or 880s

how would I go about watercooling my speakers and amp? They're always thermal throttling

Jaybird x3 or Bose soundsport? The jaybirds don't really fit in my ear unless I use the foam tips and the wings so I'm considering the soundsports. Sound quality is important as well of course. Which one do you guys prefer?

>>57877541
better how? the 770's have a strong bass similar to the M50's and a better soundstage. They're also closed back like the M50's. but idk how you'll feel about the treble. Unless you can be more specific about what you want, I'd say just upgrading to the M50x would be your safest route.

>Budget:
0-200, flexible
>Location
US
>Source
laptop
>Type of headphone
full-sized.
>Open or closed
Closed, with good passive noise cancelling.
>Comfort level
Headpat tier. I do not understand the concept of tolerating uncomfortable headphones.
>Sound signature
Neutral. So long as I'm not getting distortion listening to music of varying genres, explosions, human sounds, and nature sounds, I'm good. Not much of an audiophile
>Past headphones
Razor Carcharias, HyperX Cloud 2 (current), Panasonic RP-HJE120-K (public)

The important attribute I'm looking for is wireless. I want something I can wander around a room and do chores and stuff while wearing.

No, I don't want to fiddle with a bluetooth receiver, I want a set designed to be wireless..

>>57877920
I've been using the aforementioned Panasonics for over 2 years, through running, shoving into pockets as I get off buses, and rolling around in a bag and getting snagged when pulling them out. Sound is still just fine, no interrupts or distortion that I've noticed. They're 8 dollars or something on Amazon.

>>57877553
Thank you very much for the help, I'll go for the Origen. Hopefully this will be the last piece of equipment I need for a while, really hurting without a pair of headphones right now.

>>57877920
>Vsonics only lasted a month
What did you do to them?
Anyway VSD1S are pretty damn good as far as IEMs go, you're not going to find anything better in that price range.

>>57878062
The <$10 stuff you get when you query "earbuds" on amazon isn't really a good use of your money imo. While they fit in my ears nicely the sound quality on the cheap panasonic ones was regrettable to have to listen to for any decent amount of time. All the frequencies are packed into each other and muddy.
I didn't use my panasonics long enough for durability to become an issue, but I've had a friend break his. Again, not sure how people treat their shit to have it break so easily, though.
There's a world of difference between the panasonics and the VSD1S, if he thinks the VSD1S is shit then I don't know what to suggest

>>57877101
>Budget:
0-200, flexible
>Location
Indonesia
>Source
Dacport
>Type of headphone
full-sized.
>Open or closed
Open, alternative of V6 sony

>Comfort level
negligible
>Sound signature
alternative for MDR v6

>>57878208
>>The <$10 stuff you get when you query "earbuds" on Amazon.

That's not what I did. I went through several sets of IEM's before settling on them after a recommendation, possibly on one of these threads, over 2 years ago. You say the sound is bad, I say I occasionally sit on a bus for 2 hours at a time listening to anything from jazz to techno to podcasts to vocals without an issue for that duration.

>>57877920
Asked for durable, small fitting, decently clear headphones at a fairly low price point, and in my experience that's what they deliver.

>>57878309
To each his own. The sound they give off is really anything but clear. You're getting your money's worth, for better or worse.

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What are your guy's thoughts on these? I'm looking to replace my shure se215s since they got stolen and they were never very comfortable. I was also looking as the RE-400s since they're cheaper but I don't know much about them

>>57877101
Roger Waters needs to give the headphones to somebody with good taste, "maybe we should re-do your vocal part and you could sing like you did in Pink Floyd instead of grunt talking, Mr. Waters"

>>57878405
v-shaped sound signature, but not so great on that price.

but then again it depends on your taste towards sound signature, i prefer ety hf5 with flat response

>>57878405
re400 has better sound than these.

grab them if you dont mind the risk of faulty unit. mine died within 6 months, driver problem.

>>57878558
Do you use an amp with them?

>>57878720
hell no, it pairs really well with my ipod classic gen 5 (wolfson dac inside)

>>57877590
T1 earrape just killed this anon.

>>57878015
>>57877541

what kind of people prefer m50 like sound than 7506? aren't their bass dull?

>>57878774
Oh okay, I'll be using them with my S7 since my ipod classic died.

>>57878843
This

>>57878208
>What did you do to them?
nothing that I haven't done to my Monoprice's 3 times as much

what kind of animal leather would be best for MDR V6 replacement pads?

>>57879065
Glorious Nippon leather from Kobe cows licensed by Sony folded one thousand times

>>57878380
So, do you have anything in mind for my search? >>57878062

AKG K712 user here. My mini-XLR connector is jammed. No matter how much I pull on it and press the little button, it won't release. Any hints?

Also quite happy with the headphone but any recommendation for another one?

>Budget
$250
>Location
Australia
>Source
FiiO E10K
>Type of headphone
Open, over-ear
>Comfort level
Need max comfort
>Sound signature
flat
>Past headphones
AKG K712

>>57879065
You can put the ZMF pads on them for ultimate comfy. Expensive, but by god is it worth it.

HD558 user here and they're great but looking for a closed back pair.

>Budget
$300 USD, but flexible
>Location
Canada
>Source
SMSL M3
>Type of headphone
Closed, over-ear
>Comfort level
Close to as comfy as the HD558s would be nice

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>>57880481
this guy here, leaning towards beyer dt770s

are there any wood-backed headphones around or below the $300 level at all? pic related are beautiful but are kinda way out of my price range

There is a massdrop going on portable HeadAmp Pico amp/dac for 250$. Was planning to get a portable amp/dac for my HD600, looks like a good deal what do you think /hpg/?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/headamp-pico-portable-dac-amp

Is there such a thing as a high quality portable bluetooth receiver? Something that you can connect your phone to via bluetooth, and then plug headphones in via 3.5mm. I'm currently using some chinese receiver that I got for cheap, but obviously it sounds like shit with a bunch of noise and stuff. I like using it though because having your phone not connected to anything is extremely easy, I'm just getting annoyed by the low quality and the small battery.

>>57881333
If it's bluetooth 4.0/4.1, the sound will be adequate as long as it delivers proper power to the headphone.

Search up the MPOW bluetooth reciever. $17 USD on amazon [there is a couple of them]

I bought a 250 ohm DT880 I'm going to plug into my motherboard.

Do I need an amp? How will it sound different if I don't?

Are there any better alternatives to Tascam TH02?
I need a cheap set of over ear headphones that fold for portable use. The TH02's are fairly large and bulky looking which is an issue do to portability. Also they seem to be fairly plastic-y, which is an issue since I want to just chuck them in my backpack when in a lecture, so decent build is a factor.

I have Pro 80's which would be fantastic if only they folded. I was actually considering welding a locking hinge into the forks, but I think I love them too much to chance that.

FYI I can get TH02's for $40 AUD, so I think It might be hard to get anything better, but you never know.

Do AV Receivers have enough power to power AKG K701s? specifically the Yamaha R-S300BL.
I'm getting new speakers and a new receiver for my computer and I have a little bit left over to buy some new AKG K701s. However, should my AV Receiver be able to power them?

>>57881767
I don't think you're really going to get an answer. It's a receiver so I doubt anyone even mentions the headphone out, yet alone how well it powers headphones.

Just go for it, and get a DIY O2 for $50, or a CMOY for like $60
Hell, even a DIY Classic 47 would compete with those, and it can be had for $10 on aliexpress or ebay.

>>57881806
Well if I did end up getting a headphone amp, what would be the cheapest tube amp you'd recommend?

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>>57877101
Was looking into the akg k240 and the shure srh440 but not sure
>Budget
100-120 euros

>Location
Narnia

>Source
PC or an aftermarket amp

>Type of headphone
Over-ear

>Open or closed
Doesn't matter

>Comfort level
Prolonged hours of gaming and music listening

>Sound signature
mid to bassy

>Past headphones Scrub ass Razer kraken pro and steelseries 5h v2

>>57881824
Why do you want a tube?

>>57881837
I currently have a vintage tube amp running my current speakers. I love the warm vintage sound, and dat tube glow, so since I'm getting rid of the tube amp (well, not getting rid of, it's just going to my TV) I'd like to still be able get the tube sound through my headphones

>>57881824
Valhalla 2, because going super cheap with tubes is a shit idea and thinking you'll end up tuning the sound of your system just because your amplifier uses triodes is even worse.

>>57881857
https://www.amazon.com/Bravo-Audio-V2-Multi-Hybrid-Headphone/dp/B00ADR2DTG/ref=pd_sim_23_12?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00ADR2DTG&pd_rd_r=3MHNXBXV27CKJ13ZW4BW&pd_rd_w=p4iaj&pd_rd_wg=nukP3&psc=1&refRID=3MHNXBXV27CKJ13ZW4BW

>>57881929
That's exactly the price range I was looking for, thanks anon

>>57881929
Is the Vali 2 any good? I'd pair it with the Modi 2

>>57882058
Yeah it's alright. I just don't see the point in it when Magni exists.

>pairing
Not a thing.

finally got the O2 + ODAC combo for my AKG K712. First impressions after listening to 2 songs = bass sounds "tighter", there is definitely more of it and MAYBE the dynamic range is better now. Gotta test more and after a few days/weeks try it again straight from the motherboard audio jack.


also the sliiiight channel imbalance to the right is gone. so it actually was my motherboard and not just my shit ears

>>57882079
You know what I mean, hook it up to the Modi 2 DAC, I could run a toslink from my computer to that DAC, and run a coax to my speakers

>>57882122
Yeah but your choice of converter is utterly irrelevant when choosing an amplifier, headphones, loudspeakers whatever. It'll work.

K702 or K7XX?

I feel for the 558 meme and they are arriving this weekend. Did I do good?

What will be more effective price-wise if you use shitty headphones and want volume 30-40% higher:
dedicated sound card,
amplifier or
new headphones?

How many of you have kept the 598cs memephones? I love mine

>>57880393
>any recommendation for another one?
HD650

>>57882279
> 702
Analytical. Bass is lean but also very extended

>7XX
Actual bass that you can feel, just above neutral, but they are not bassy

I just bought some iems 2 days ago, now they are reduced by £20. Is there anything I can do?

>>57882770
Ordered I meant, and it was actually yesterday.

>>57882104
>also the sliiiight channel imbalance to the right is gone. so it actually was my motherboard and not just my shit ears

I have HD600 and off my macpro I hear slight channel imbalance leaning to the right side (it sounds bassier) So external dac/amp helped it? Was it just loudness imbalance or some frequencies imbalance? Was planning to get dac/apm this new year but can't wait now.

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opinions??

http://schiit.com/products/fulla-2

>>57883185
/reddit/

>>57883185
>opinions??
Kill yourself.

It looks nice, the sort of thing that people should get instead of dumping money on stacks.

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>need earbuds with mic for gaming with an xbox one controller (3.5mm)
>need a mic that can be pulled closer to the face or closer to the mouth in general
>amazon & under $30 preferred


pic related is what I got and it is okay. the only problem is if I talk a little under shouting people say they can't hear me

>>57882385
Amplifier
Whole point of an amp is to literally amplify the signal, and make it louder.

>>57883185
Looks interesting, been wanting to get a desktop amp for a while now so this is for sure an option. Would have to wait for some reviews etc before I'd buy it though.

>>57883541
What you want to read what others imagine while listening through that?

>>57883577
Just want to know if it's worth the money, wouldn't want to spend 99 bucks on something that's shit.

I'm about to order a pair of DT 770s but they're 250 ohms

is that considered high impedance? am I going to need or otherwise benefit from amplifier?

>>57883616
Depends on what you're going to plug them into, but I'm guessing that you'll most likely need an amp. Go for lower impedance if you don't want to spend money on an amp.

Somewhat headphone related.
What's a good amp to hook up two old wire-based speakers? There are a few around but I don't want to drop a fair amount of money on one that isn't great.

>>57883861
250ohm is on sale, others aren't.

and otherwise the model is exactly what I'm looking for, and in my price range.

I don't mind buying an headphone amp either. if only for the convenience of it.

>>57883616
Depends on your source. Probably will need an additional amp if its just a laptop, or not a dedicated soundcard.

>>57877101

>Budget
0-75$

>Location
USA

>Source

PC Audio

>Type of headphone

Full Sized

>Open or closed

Either are fine

>Comfort level

Comfrot

>Sound signature

-

>Past headphones

ATH-AD 700 with one ear no longer producing sound

>>57884119
Repair your AD700. It's more than likely a wire that got detached.

Otherwise, AD500x are only $98

SHP9500's are an option too. Imaging is worse than AT-ADX though.

>>57884142


When I took it apart, it looked like like all solder points were fine. I tried removing a section of cord because my computer chair had run over it quite a bit. fixed the problem for a while but it came back. Now randomly if I sit in the right position the sound will come back, but if I move again it stops.

>>57884184
Just replace the cable entirely then. Hell, snip the cable from the chin down and add a 3.5 female so you can have somewhat of a removable cable.

>>57884209
how much are the cables?

last I checked it was like 20-25$. They are about 7-8 years old at this point.

>>57884236
No idea. Does it use the same locking 2.5 that other Audio Technica cans use?

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Why do so many hate the Fidelio X2?

>>57884358
The lack of sub-bass
HE-400s do what X2's try to do but better.

They're not a bad headphone though.

>>57884296
locking?

all i know was it was a long cord that opens up and the wires directly solder to the headphones

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>>57884379
But until 30hz they are neck and neck, straight line from the mids until 30hz on both, only after that the X2 drops. Literally marginal at best when you get some increase at the 20hz region (which isnt really sub bass since the sub bass that has most impact is between 30-50hz)

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>>57884607

>>57884607
>>57884624
That's the HE-400, not HE-400S
Understandable mistake

>>57877101
650, 600, or 6XX?

>>57884858
600 for neutrality
650/6XX are identical. Get them if you find 600's too boring, though I do believe personally that 600's are better.

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>>57884809
Sorry the 400S are apparently even worse than the x2, since you need to remember the harman kardon target response of bass

After about a year the earpads of my K702 started to show signs of accumulating dust. Can I toss them in with the laundry (low temp, no spin-drying), or would that ruin them?

>>57884904
>600 for neutrality
more like glary garbage

>>57884978
Just hand wash them in slightly soapy water.. Works for Beyer pads.

>>57877101
just purchased the skullcandy crusher wireless, they are said to sound better than wired headphones and have controllable bass.

>>57885126
Please stop baiting.
(you)

>>57884958
Also theres way more detail in the mids and highs of the X2, just listen to the strings and all the details when she speaks, undeniably better.

X2:
https://youtu.be/B6JGyCW1S9g?t=275

H400S with the better pleather pads:
https://youtu.be/ES8FQQE-WDE?t=61

Listening on my JBL LSR 305s the hifiman doesnt stand a chance

>>57884958
what site is this?

>>57885169
Dunno but all the 400S results look like that anyway

>>57885150
prove me wrong though? blue tooth has come a long way to mimicking wired, and will soon surpass it.

>>57885166
Not the guy you're arguing with, but that video is fundamentally flawed. You can see the guy has the X2's entirely over the silicone ear, and the 400S isn't seated properly. That would easily give a different result. He's using different pads too I think.

I don't know why he's using the ears in the first place. They're obviously not suited for it.

I looked and his new sound tests don't use them, so there is obviously a reason he stopped using them.

>>57882385
Sound card. $100 amp has the quality of a $30 sound card.

>>57885530
[citation needed]

>>57883616
Impedance alone doesnt mean anything. You probably will not need an amp.

>>57882677
>HD650
Isn't the HD600 better?

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>>57885573
They are extremely similar

>>57885436
Sounds like you just need an reason to not remorse your buy since many times the 400S can cost twice as much as the X2

>>57885613
>They are extremely similar
For you

>>57885740
If I took your headphone off would you die?

>>57885730
Did you not read the part where i said "Not the guy you're arguing with"?
I don't own either and don't want either.

>>57885753
Well what pair do you own then?

Also the other hifiman are situated like that with regular pads, then its just their design how they sit on the ears like that, so it means your argument is invalid since that is how they would sit on the ears. Btw the X2 does not have bigger than average ear cups

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>>57885750

>>57885750
it would be extremely painful

>>57885791
>Well what pair do you own then?
I don't own any open headphones. I have studio monitors. Open headphones are pointless unless you live in a suburban environment. I don't.

>Also the other hifiman are situated like that with regular pads
Maybe. I'll take your word. Either way, he changed the earpad. The sound is different. The stock ones are velours. Its a pointless recording.

>so it means your argument is invalid since that is how they would sit on the ears
That was only one part of my argument.

>Btw the X2 does not have bigger than average ear cups
I didn't say they did.

>>57885997
Its not pointless, it is agreed upon that they improve the bass response. Im not here to shill X2, just prove that Chinkman 400S isnt as good as everybody claims it to be.

>That was only one part of my argument.
No it really was your only main argument, that the measurements were completely pointless because of how they were situated.

>also not using headphones for gaming or hearing more details in your mix or music

My X2s are even more detailed than the JBL LSR 305 so you must either have extremely expensive studio monitors to beat headphones, which is widely known to be the case in the audio pro scene.

>>57880430
>ZMF pads
should I go with lambskin?

>>57885801
Yours sound so clean

>>57886129
Depends on what sound you want. It says on the site how each modifies the sound. Its down to personal taste. I /personally/ feel that the highs on the V6's are too much, so I'd get the darker pads [cowhide from memory?], but you may find the ultra revealing detailed highs the best part about them.

Listen to a wide variety of songs back to back and determine what is lacking from the headphone if anything. If nothing, get the most neutral pad.

If you don't care about sound as much, or just want ultra comfy, get lambskin.

>>57886126
>it is agreed upon that they improve the bass response.
Wasn't aware of that. Interesting

>No it really was your only main argument, that the measurements were completely pointless because of how they were situated.
No, it wasn't. The other part was that the ears don't act like normal human ears. HM5 pads even fucking prolapsed as those are don't sit like that.

>also not using headphones for gaming or hearing more details in your mix or music
I don't play video games, and my monitors easily outdo any headphone I've compared them to. Good monitors in a properly treated room will always beat headphones.

>My X2s are even more detailed than the JBL LSR 305 so you must either have extremely expensive studio monitors to beat headphones, which is widely known to be the case in the audio pro scene.

My monitors outdo 305's easily. Price isn't a factor as I built them myself using incredibly old drivers I acquired from my father ages ago, that I'm surprised still work and actually sounded good. I sold all my other various studio monitors and bookshelves and I'm currently trying to actually figure out what the drivers are so I can build another pair.

im a fag, can you recommend me good wireless headset?
Cheers!

>>57881698
Yes probably
It will be too quiet

>>57886126
>>57886535
Even cheap mid-range monitors absolutely destroy high end headphones

>>57884358
I don't hate them, I would rather people get those than beats or other modern crab. That being said, for me they had too much nigga bass.

>>57886771
Nah they dont, gotta be deaf to think that, also no regular nearfield monitor can produce sound under 50hz, whereas headphones go as low as 20-30hz

>>57886535
Binaural recordings beat Dolby atmos by far, there is no arguing that headphones have far better surround sound. And I find it hard to believe you pops old drivers and self built housing will sound better than any proper high end headphone, since Ive listened to lots and lots of progear monitors. What headphones did you own?

>>57886771
Even cheap equalized headphones absolutely destroy mid-range monitors.

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>>57887173
Hahahaha
You're a /hpg/ icon, congrats

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>>57887272

>>57887272
Low quality shitpost

>>57887258
But cheap equalized monitors...
Well you can money off of that

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>>57887285
>actually posting on Windows
>actually using chrome

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>>57887292
>Well you can money off of that

>>57887173
What the fuck kind of monitors have you been using?
And are you reading off frequency range? Holy shit

>>57887329
Bose, sennheiser, AKG, they all know the secret of selling equalized cheap speakers to this thread

What is this stupid argument over loudspeakers and headphones again?

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>>57887233
>headphones have far better surround sound
? ? ?
?
?

>>57887402
I don't know I just came here to say that dollar per dollar, monitors will always sound better than headphones

>>57887344
Jbl LSR 305 have an lowest note of 50hz in the real world measured, which is much lower than other monitors...
And no, only measurents. The X2 has a lowest note at 25hz...

Speakers only makes you dumb person, but each to their own I guess.

>>57882982
it was loudness imbalance and it was the most noticeable with kick drums and sub bass

>>57887412
Wtf they dobyou stupid fuck, binaural replicates exatly human hearing. Dolby shitters cant even come close, and I did own a properly set up 7.1 before so I do speak from experience

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>>57887450
My $300 pair of cheap mid-range monitors seem to do alright
How big are the drivers of that one pair of monitors that you're claiming is "better than any other monitors" even?
I'll tell you one thing, both my 598s and my M50s (when I was suffering through them) can't pull a 30Hz note at any reasonable volume at all

>>57887470
Arguments:
>headphones are better for surround sound because they're perfect
>the alternative is bad because I said so
>I failed to set up real surround sound so I know I'm right

>>57887470
Can you explain this without memes or hostility?
For the last decade I've heard that headphone surround sound is a retarded idea, but in my experience open headphones and stereo speakers both have a really nice similar soundstage

>>57885613
>slightly better bass and no glary treble/upper mids
why do people even consider the 600 again? 650 is clearly more refined and with the 6xx at $200 it's a nobrainer

Looking for a cable recommendation. The cable of my Sennheiser IE80 broke and I want to get a replacement cable. Only problem is that the one retailer I found in Switzerland that carries it has them for 60.-
Does anyone know where I can get a replacement cable that isnt priced at 1/4 of the original product?
Thanks in advance.

>>57887719
Take the old connector and solder the 3 wires onto a new cable jesus

>>57887539
Well theres your problem, 598s are not a high end headphone by any means. Theyre ok at best since I did own them but hd650 or x2s are a hug upgrade

>>57887539
And what pair is that? If those had a flat curve to 20hz they are certainly not 300 dongers

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>>57887450
>Speakerfags think bigger means better but I know better, I got me some 2 and a half inch drivers
>>57887898
Yeah and I'm sure a monitor that can't even hold an audible 50hz isn't quite considered "much better than other monitors"

>>57887606
Just gotta listen to it yourself. Put on a good binaural recording and you understand what I mean. You literally are there. Not even expensive movie theaters are able to deliver that kind of presense. The problem is that almost nothing is recorded binaurally

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>Budget
$100 ($250 at most, but flexable)
>Location
United States
>Source
Generic speakers to use as an amplifier because directly into computer makes them too quiet
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Number one priority
>Sound signature
Bassy, as much bass as humanily possible
>Past headphones
Sentry STUDIO Digital Stereo Headphones - HO850
and Sony Headphones of similar range

I use Razer Surround Pro. That's the only thing that makes my current headphones tolerable, but I never expected much from cheap headphones. All I care about in respect to sound is bass. I want it as bassed as possible. Razer Surround Pro is actually really good at faking 7.1 surround. I'm wondering if that's good enough or if 7.1 surround headphones would be better? The only ones I could find are gaming ones, but I don't play video games. Are they only beneficial in that respect?

Bass is all that matters, but comfort is first. These cheap headphones I have now do a great job as is in terms of bass so anything above $100 will be heaven. Therefor, comfort is the only emphasis. My current ones are making a rattling sound at high volume in the left side. However, when I shake them it does the same. So, maybe something is loose in them, but it's time to replace them regardless.

Here's my equalizer settings...
+12dB 125Hz and 250Hz
0dB 500Hz
-12dB 1kHz, 2kHz, 4kHz, 8kHz, 16kHz

I was looking at Sennheiser HD 280 Pro because they seem like a good value and they're quite popular. Maybe Sennheiser URBANITE XL. These two look really comfortable. A lot of these headphones are expensive, but they look annoying to use. Could be an illusion.

>>57887941
Binaural is just stereo that's made to sound cool isn't it?

>>57887929
>He thinks hes magic monitors are able to produce a sub bass note of any detail
No 300$ pair of speakers can do that, hell a 10k speaker might be able. You need an very good and expensive subwoofer to do the things planars and good dynamic headphones do.

>>57887973
It is since your hearing is stereo you dumbass monkey, it simulates real hearing with fake ears and a specific distance between mics.

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>>57887912
Mackie MR6s, the graph is a little unfairly scaled so you can't see but they start rolling off at 30hz, which is pretty normal (and not nearly as severe of a drop as with headphones)
Here's some other monitors I had, a little more expensive (but I got them used) and I really liked these ones

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>>57888020
And here's some fucking memes you'll see shilled 9/10 times

>>57887973
No.

>>57887539
Headphones have a serious advantage over loudspeakers in a room wrt bass extension. Pressure chamber behavior doesn't extend well to loudspeakers, unless you have a really tiny room to shove a low-frequency subwoofer array into.
With the M50, that sounds like a bad unit or bad fit.

>>57887606
Binaural isn't surround sound.
The method is to record audio using microphone with the pickup pattern similar to that of a human head. This might be done with a person wearing a mic in their ears or a dummy head.
When played back over headphones or anything else with sufficiently low crosstalk, all positions may be captured and presented to the listener, whereas speakers are limited to the position that they project from.

>>57887692
>why do people even consider the 600 again
Operations of multiplication, division, addition, and subtraction are too difficult to be comfortable in applying.

>>57888020
>the graph is a little unfairly scaled
I don't think you know how to read a scale.

>>57887465
>sub bass

Ahhhh, I thought I am going crazy. Had same thing with bass, right driver sounded if not really louder but rather warmer. Well, thank you for your reply.

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>>57888035
These are Krk rokits 8 inch
>>57887978
The point of good monitors is that you don't need a subwoofer because the monitors have good bass and much better clarity. I've tried "studio subwoofers" in several monitor conbos and it's just louder bass, not really more in the way of clarity and definitely not better in the neutrality department. while I had to learn that smaller monitors can't hold up ALL the frequencies at the same time perfectly, I also learned that a seperate sub is not the answer and that larger, more quality monitors was
I love my headphones, i love trying them out and figuring what I like, but they're nothing like monitors when it comes to keeping accurate response with a lot of frequencies battling for space nor for holding bass while playing other tracks

>>57888085
>Operations of multiplication, division, addition, and subtraction are too difficult to be comfortable in applying.
in english

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>>57888085
Don't you dare try to defend ATHM50s
They are absolute utter garbage, and by extension you are garbage if you like them

>>57888090
>>57882104
Btw, any more impressions?

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>>57888085
So then that would mean you're saying that these are the best audio experience that money can buy? Because it's got that "huge advantage over headphones" instead of -god forbid- natural hearing pressures?

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http://schiit.com/products/fulla-2

The Fulla 2 looks sexy as fuck. Does anyone know if this thing is more powerful than the FiiO E10K? And more importantly, how does the volume knob work if I connect powered speakers and headphones at the same time? Does it mute one or the other?

I might replace my E10K with this for the preamp alone to control speaker volume.

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>>57888020
They start rolling of at 50Hz ya dumbo, cant even read a chart can ya? Exactly like the LSR 305

>>57888035
And this shit rolls of at 50Hz

wtf m8

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>>57888210
>one volume control
>one output
>headphone and main outs are the same
And you guys told me buying a full mixer was stupid

>>57888101
>but they're nothing like monitors when it comes to keeping accurate response with a lot of frequencies battling for space

And thats the biggest problem of monitors, if not set up with pin point accuracy they mess up songs that consist of something more than niggabass and a lead solo guitar and even then they lose to headphones when it comes to detail separation.

>>57888101
You use an subwoofer if you are an pro or understand the advantage. It clears up your midrange since your speaker woofer doesnt have to produce that low Hz notes at the same time, but that note is instead crossed over to the subwoofer.

It does seem youre an novice in audio still, you should keep an open mind and learn stuff

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>>57888241
You're still posting "the best monitors"? You unable to use google or what?
And these memephones all start rolling off at 80-110hz, oh my these must be some dollar store trash too right?

>>57888273
The monitor combos also included quad-monitors with an active crossover, as of course that's the whole reason I bought the sub, expecting better seperation and less compression, again I learned that two good, big multi-driver monitors was the way to go
But it's not like you can just crossover your headphones, you're stuck with whatever your brand likes

>>57885166
>Listening on my JBL LSR 305s
yo dude what do you think
is it good idea to use 305s as a living room speakers for music-games-movies?

>>57888278
>30hz tone is almost at the same level as any human voice on the HD650

I think youre just too dumb to read charts.

>>57888273
Did you read? That's why I bought them, and they didn't deliver.

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>>57888342
>it's not 0 so that means it's good!
You're the guy who reads the frequency range and says headphones go from 5-20000hz aren't you?

>>57888326
Its okayish without an sub, with an sub its amazing, the waveguide does real wonders, its very musical since its frequency is completely flat unlike rokkits or yamahas (too much bass or too much treble respectively)

And they do get loud enough to get you kicked out and they sound very clean at very high levels, but they get a little tinny without the sub at extreme volumes (you cant even hear what other people are saying levels)

>>57888386
No you fucktard, take a look at these graphs.

>>57884607
>>57884624

And keep in mind youre arguing against measurements, not me.

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>>57888386
>always posted that DT880s sounded more neutral than DT770s
>/hpg/ says I'm wrong
>see this
I knew it

>>57888393
Since you're just using my extremely common and popular studio monitors that you've never heard for comparison, don't forget I also mentioned mackie (ironically the least clear monitors I posted)

>>57888425
>Thinking the Treble Cannon 880 by Beyercuck is neutral

Yes its more neutral in some regard (unless you use the harman kardon response then the 770 is better imo) but its like comparing a turd to a shinier turd.

>>57882432
sending mine back
they sound muddy until the volume is blasted, bass is wimpier than expected, and maybe its the closed headphone type, but can't get immersed and can obviously tell i'm listening to a couple of speakers next to my ears (don't know how else to describe it)
completely underwhelmed

desu my $15 headphones i got 7 years ago perform better than the 598cs except at outrageously high volumes
i'll need to keep looking but i guess it was a learning experience to figure out what i want

>>57888393
even if I'm 15 feet away? because they are studio monitors and I'm afraid that they will sound bad at this range

>>57888462
Ive heard almost all mememonitors and much more expensive and higher end prostuff, the LSR 305 didnt reach its memestatus pinnacle without a reason, it is no slouch, and in some cases outperforming much much more expensive monitors.

But it doesnt clear up the point you numnut cant even read graphs so fuck off for eternity

>>57888409
Those are your own graphs bruh, just some wild and crazy headphone response rollercoasters from what I see, dropping heavily at high end and dropping early (although slowly) in the low end
But if pressure and sonic resistance is what makes headphones great, then you can ranjit your IEMs that sound shit from 20-120hz and I'll enjoy my real hearing speakers that sound great from 30 and up

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>Budget
$150, flexible
>Location
US
>Source
PC, TV, handheld game consoles.
>Type of headphone
Over-ear, preferably closed.
>Comfort level
Fairly comfortable, at least.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD280 Pro, really like em but they're a little beat up.

>>57888504
They will not sound the best at that kind of range, they sound ok, but their strength is nearfield and around 2,5metres which is how far I sit from them. At that kind of distance an hifi system is better for you since they are made for that range.

>>57888105
You aren't comfortable with arithmetic and it is working against you.

>>57888154
It has that advantage and a few others (small excursion required), and has its own critical disadvantages.

>>57888393
>completely flat
Flatter than most but not quite. It is meant to be flattest slightly off-axis, about 10-15 degrees off.

>>57888504
Good monitors sound right from any distance under a whole room length factor away if you set them up right, can't say personally about those JBLs though

>>57888508
Don't worry bro we've all seen our own equipment response graphs no need to take out your remorse on us

The MSR7 with just a little bit of bass boost from my E17K is 10/10. Hope everyone is having a comfy day.

>>57888519
>just some wild and crazy headphone response rollercoasters from what I see, dropping heavily at high end and dropping early (although slowly) in the low end

Confirmed for being new to sound and especially headphones. If you love your speakers so much you should have at least a slight idea why headphones have such dips at lover frequencies, protip they are close to the ear.

>Those are your own graphs bruh
How old are you bruv?

>>57888603
Oh you have a technical reason why they're shit? Okay that must make them not shit

>>57888614
Now I don't even think you are competent enough to set up your own speakers. Come back when you grow up anon, you have a long way to go.

>>57888134
difference isn't big at all, as i expected. i think buying better headphones might be better value

but the o2+odac combo definitely improves the sound, just not that much. also it might be a decent investment for me if im going to buy some more power requiring headphones in the future

>>57888614
>>57888589
>Salty speaker fag nigger trying to troll hpg

Bitch please, you've only listened to 598s at home and you think you can even compare monitors and headphones, fuck off already

>>57888644
but i still haven't tested these much. the difference is always more clear when you "downgrade" back to what you used before

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>>57888641
Ok I'll just be here making music on these atrocious and disgusting non-flat studio monitors, enjoy your IEMs you pro you

>>57888647
Actually 4 headphones and 3 pairs of monitors, with 2 mixers, DACs, and a single dedicated crossover
I'm open to any headphone that can step up to the challenge, because I'm always looking for another system to test my music out on, unfortunately none of these headphones are good for production or mixing

>>57888546
2.5m (maybe 3m) is good enough. I asked because my kitchen is connected with the living room so there must be some sound too.
HiFi is too hard for me. I just want to buy meme monitors without deep thinking about different speakers, amps and how to pair them.
And price ofc. LSR305s = 280 eur, A-S500+Bronze 2 = 600 eur.
Big thanks to you bro.

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>this thread

Headphones now officially better than monitors; speakers expected to fade from existence following controversial 4chan thread, more at 11

which are the weeb headphones again?
sorry i wish i could remember, but is there a reason why they like them so much?

>>57888680
Aw nice it only costs 1500$ for a pair, nice value there moron! And since it doesnt go flat beyond 40hz its still worse than a pair of 300$ headphones kek

>>57888709
No problem, but remember to get an subwoofer also!! You need for movies, music you really dont if listen to rock and classic stuff

You guys said that the mk II of Phillip fidelio were good but they aren't as comfy as my old ones... Anyone has an idea what can I do? Ty

>>57888788
LSR310S costs 390 eur wtf. I'll get it later if I'll need one.

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>>57888780
Yeah enjoy having 60% of neutral sound and "20-20k hz", unfortunately, what I do requires a flat beautiful aural soundscape so my DT770s, DT880s, HD598s sit on the shelf, and my ATH-M50s remain donated at the thrift store until I test my music on them just like with my cheap car audio and with my phones speakers
Hey, headphones are useful after all huh?

>>57888800
Well youre out of luck, changing pads arent really good on those X2s since there arent really any aftermarket ones.

Just learn to live with it or get some other headphones liek the Hd650 or hifiman 400S whicha re similiar in soundquality

Wierd though since I have no compalints about the X2 since it has memeory foam velourpads which are heaven to me.

>>57888826
Not the JBL one, you can get any decent active subwoofer for 100-200$ for that lowend feel and connect it with a splitter.

>>57888788
Yep, IEMs and a subwoofer, /hpg/ audiophile starter kit
>>57888826
The three monitors I posted (HS8, MR6 and rokits if you're a meme) can be found at more reasonable prices and don't require a sub to be pleasant to listen to (like most monitors)

>>57888850
Retard, the charts arent supposed to be completely flat because of how human hearing works with headphones............

>>57888861
M1MKII I mean.
Was 80$ and I mean sound is better than my old ones but it's not comfortable to sit with for a long time and it slides off pretty easily...

>>57888883
Damn youre dumb, for movies a subwoofer is a must if you want that feel for cheap... Go off yourself already.

>>57888895
Ahh I know nothing about those.

>>57888873
>a splitter
I agree use a splitter and not a dumb crossfade, this is the best of /hpg/ giving advice better listen to it

>>57888906
It's a must if you're using headphones, maybe
But the people mixing the movie on monitors dont know how it's supposed to sound

>>57888873
>>57888921
Thanks guys!

>>57888915
Yeah .. I asked for a 100-110$top and got recommended those, they're a little annoying and I have no money to spend on new ones now and if I will have money I have other stuff I want to buy...

>>57888546
>>57888709
>At that kind of distance an hifi system is better for you since they are made for that range
Target market does not have that meaning for acoustics. If you want a speaker to play from further away, look for something that can play louder, with a narrower dispersion perhaps.

>>57888101
>The point of good monitors
-To be tonally neutral
-Have a large dynamic range and free of non-linear distortions
A better subwoofer does not hinder this.

>tried "studio subwoofers" in several monitor conbos and it's just louder bass, not really more in the way of clarity and definitely not better in the neutrality department
Somehow I figure you missed the configuration part in setting up the sub.
>I love my headphones, i love trying them out and figuring what I like, but they're nothing like monitors when it comes to keeping accurate response with a lot of frequencies battling for space nor for holding bass while playing other tracks
The "space" of a headphone is not like that of an open speaker. True enough.
It just sounds like you are conflating these phenomena.

>>57888921
>crossfade
You dont need one since you have an active subwoofer which lets you set it up once and forget and then you jsut adjust your volume digitall from the TV or PC, LIKE YOU DO WITH YOUR MONITORS

>>57888997
Well I was originally comparing headphones and monitors. The Monitors vs Sub debate is just a few personal situational opinions, I liked bigger monitors over smaller monitors + sub but I only tried one KRK sub and I'm sure there's much better models. I'm open to the idea, I've always dreamed of some kind of endgame setup with a dozen drivers and a flawless crossover, but it seems a $200 sub, $300 monitors and a basic crossover isn't the way to approach that
It's still not 2.5" drivers smashed against your ears so there's that

>>57889023
But you never mentioned a sub with a crossover built in, not all subs have crossovers, and even without considering that, doubling the signal, changing nothing sent to the monitors and sending one copy of the audio to the sub isn't the way to do it

>>57889023
Luckily active subs with crossovers have the crossovers passthrough to finally send from the sub to the monitors
But there's still no splitter involved.

>>57889121
But it is the way and it has been done for a very long time. You conenct it in teh left channel, that is how 2.1 is made. Also I do recommend an audiointerface with an sub out, but subs only play around 25Hz to 200Hz or even lower so you wont notice big difference in an audiointerface vs a splitter, especially considering cost.

>>57889023
>digital volume
>he doesn't even have ASIO
>TV digital volume
>he actually hooked the headphone jack from the tv into his setup
Surely you could do better than that?

>>57889170
Except for the fact that the crossover would only be doing half its job and you'd get no benefit from the monitor-side
But that's why they sell $5 splitters next to the subs with well tuned and decent crossovers right?

>>57889138
Yes active subs WITH crossovers. But you can buy an passive subwoofer crossover but its a little more expensive (20$) than a simple RCA Y splitter more not that much better sound.

>>57889170
You mean a dedicated crossover (I haven't seen an interface with sub out personally) or the subs crossover (which you essentially would be BYPASSING by using a splitter)

>>57889233
You have a sub, it has a crossover, it low-cuts out the bass for a clear monitor-bound signal but you're just gonna send the whole uncut signal to the monitors anyways?
That would defeat the point of using a crossover from the monitor side

>>57889188
Headphone jack? wtf thats not digital. No optical you dumbo

>>57889215
Anon is on the cheap, there isnt any cheap subs with an actual crossover (and not an high cut like youre talking about)

>>57889290
But if it's optical you're not controlling the volume from the TV

Can anybody explain lossy formats to me? i read somewhere that mp3 loses data overtime by being storaged en hard drives

>>57889309
FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA - it's about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.
I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange…well don’t get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren’t stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you’ll be glad you did.

>>57889360
Nice meme

>>57889309
It has less to do with MP3s and more to with shitty spinny disk drives

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>>57889360

Ok, does lossless still lose data yearly?

>>57889360
In 2001 all mp3s from public internet sources were shitty and resampled at a higher spec so that it would "technically" look like quality audio
My MP3 collection from that time (many were admittedly shit quality to begin with) is trash quality now but my Brittany Spears CD from the 90's still sounds fine

>>57889397
No. Transcode all your mp3s to FLAC immediately.

>>57889397
It's loss is less
>>57889418
Is that you, every music seeder in the world?

>>57889390

what about ssd?

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>>57889535
Nope

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On the topic of codecs and shitty memes aside, there was some new AES paper released on how the mp3 compression artifacts were subjectively perceived:

http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=18523

No pay wall.

I will now attach an anime image to this post.

When I was younger I got suckered into the Turtle Beach hype, and have been using "Gamer" headphones since.
Don't get me wrong headphones make a big difference, and it's nice having an attached mic, but I've been told repeatedly they're overpriced for shit sound quality.

Currently have a pair of Astro A50s, and I really like them. Super comfy, don't touch my ears at all which I like, barely feel them on my head in fact. Wife got them for me a few years back now, and I've used them with PC and Console games.

Recently I've been noticing some quality issues, audio cutting in and out like it's losing connection to the fiber optic base that's only a few feet away and in plain sight.

Budget really isn't an issue, within reason. Not going to blow a grand on headphones, but I'd like something nice. Bass important, but so is high end, all the equalizers in my house are Vs and Us.
They need to be closed, as my wife often naps on the couch near where I'm listening or playing, and wireless is also preferable.

I've done a little looking around, but everything i find is either gimmicky junk or pretentious overpriced hipster stuff. Halp.

>>57889710
DT770s sound like your best bet, closed back and slightly v shaped, decent bass and good highs for closed headphones, and extremely comfy

>>57889710
And like, I don't know a modmic? Or a cheaper similar mic and a zip tie? I go full autismo and have a condenser mic hooked up to my mixer for shit talking in games

>>57889649

whats the tldr;?

>>57889768
I would assume it's "MP3 compression artifacts are subjectively perceived"

>>57889768
Use lossless to avoid sadness.

>>57889710
I also hear good things about the sennheiser game one's (not the other sennheiser headsets though)

>>57889768
.mp3-files are "Mysterious, Shy, Scary, and Sad"

>>57877101
Just took a pair of M40x.
Was patiently waiting for a Behringer UMC22 to be delivered (bought Nov, 5th)
Yesterday the shop told me I had to wait until Jan, 31st (so another bloody month).

tl;dr I need an USB audio interface for my PC to connect headphones and guitar, given the fact that I already have a pair of M40x.

Budget: 100 euro

Any advice?

>>57889824
>>57889729
Hrm, both of those look like they have frames with cheaper construction than my A50s. I'm looking for an upgrade, not a horizontal move. Was expecting a higher price for better quality, I see "best greatest top #1" headphones in the 500 range but they're open-can or meme sets like Bose or Beats. Do they not make simliar quality closed sets?

>>57889971
Well the dt770s are partly made of metal, I can't imagine that's worse than clear colorful plastic tubes holding up your layers of plastic earcups that you're currently using
I don't know what you want, the headset world is weird to be because I'm used to sound quality being more important than how it looks or being able to sit on them without breaking
And you're looking in the wrong fucking place if you're seeing Bose and beats as #1
Closed headphones generally aren't rated as number one because those are rated on sound quality, and closed back headphones hit a plateau of high-end extension and clarity
Like I said though, I don't know what you want and where Ive been looking the last 5 years, Bose and beats are last on the list

>>57889971
>was expecting higher price for better quality
Gaming headsets are pretty much all higher price and lower quality than real headphones, sorry but it's hard to get as ripped off as you're used to from buying turtle beach
Go anywhere near $1000 and you're into rich retard headphones or actual studio monitors

>>57887692
Because the HD600 is more neutral than the HD650.

How are Audeze Sine? They look snazzy, want to try them

What are some good portable-desctop dac/amp combos? I don't really need it to be something that you can slap on the phone, but with all my traveling and moving around I want a something portable enough not to feel like a stack of boxes that I have to carry around.

>Budget
350$-400$
>Location
Germany
>Type of headphone
HD 600

>>57890427
Pretty much the only on-ear headphones worth buying.
The sound is similar to Elear, but better and they're half the price.
Severely underrated headphones.

>>57889971
Astros are overpriced as fuck, so don't compare prices. That being said, honestly you won't find something that looks or fits the same as the A50s, and I know because I've tried. The tall, floating square cups are just phenomenal and unique. It's just a shame they're filled with literal garbage.

>>57890083
>>57890173
Astros are also made of metal, theyre solid as fuck, and I have no idea where to look besides Google, those just look cheap in comparison I guess IM sorry fo rnot being more educated

>>57890522
This is the issue I guess I dont like the idea of going back to big circles that bend the tops of my ears, thanks I guess

>>57890457
Just look for a small one, is the normal top ramen pack size too big to carry around?

>>57890519
What about grado on-ears?
>>57890586
Nobody likes that though, the DT770s (the whole DT series) are big enough to not touch my ears whatsoever while using them, I mean when I say they're comfy, I mean it as a big deal, they're the comfiest headphones I've used, pretty much only because my ears don't touch anything when I scoot them into the right place. But I also haven't used comfy headsets loaded up with 20 pads

>>57890639
All Grado headphones are utter shit both.

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>>57889971
Can someone explain to me how it's legal to market these as "Dolby 7.1 Surround"?
Wouldn't you need several drivers or speakers in the headset to make this true?

>>57888600
Msr7 masterrace reporting in

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>>57890729
>headphones
That's what you get for strapping mini speakers to your head

Can you guys help me pick out a quality double-din audio deck for my car? Or should I make my own thread asking for advice?

>>57890722
Do you have proof or other people who agree with you?
I've heard the opposite, especially for price/performance I've heard lots of good things about grado

>>57890801
This thread will tell you to shove a mixer into your car and they won't be wrong

>>57890801
get a quality car they have quality audio pre installed

>>57890522
>>57890586
Closest you'll find to astro design is V-MODA Crossfade.
They're also garbage though.

>>57890729
Software

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>>57890829
A what?
>>57890844
What??

>>57890857
Meaning what?
No software can make a single speaker emit sounds from different parts of it.
For it to be SURROUND, you would need what, five speakers in each ear? In a large + design?

>>57890848
when these came out I bought a pair and didn't like them and anti-memed them because they were so fucking popular at the time. Amazing how all people's ears can change... Or memes are simply too powerful in the audio world

>>57890860
what car do you own?

>>57890874
Ever noticed how you have surround sound in real life even though you only have 2 ears? You only need 2 speakers to produce the same thing. Surround comes from how our brain interprets frequencies, not the ammount of speakers around you. That's why even 5€ headphones will produce "surround sound" if you listen to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY9DhuEe1WY

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>>57890897
08 Honda CRV. I fucking despise touch-screens, but I still want a screen for gps navigation so I don't have to use my phone anymore.
I also have 3 Alpine Type-R 12s in the back and a Pioneer A speaker set, so I want something that's going to get the best out of all the money I puked into this hump, which included a new alternator because I was retarded.
Don't judge.

>>57890955
Don't be fucking retarded.
We have two ears and two eyes, and they can work because they both focus on the same point in space, and the combined inputs triangulate position and distance.

Holding two speakers up to your ears means both ears are focusing on different sounds, and it's coming from an inch away from your fucking head.
You can simulate 3D images like a VR headset by just superimposing two images the exact distance apart as our eyes. But ears don't fucking work that way, don't bullshit me.

>>57891058
>But ears don't fucking work that way, don't bullshit me.
Yea, that youtube video is lying to me

>>57891073
It isnt, anon is just dumb, you literally can have perfect positioning with headphones, not two speakers though...

>>57891169
>not two speakers
My headphones speak to me therefore they are tiny speakers

>>57891169
>Headphones don't use speakers

>>57891191
>>57891235
>He is too dumb to separate headphones and speakers
>He doesnt understand room acoustics
Yeah you guys are literally deaf, baka what are you even doing on this thread

>>57877920
I haven't tried them but I hear the Remax 610d are supposed to be really good for the price.

>>57889649
>AES paper
And I decided not to renew membership and grab the other MP3 tests. Oh well.

>>57890427
>>57890519
>The sound is similar to Elear
Not really. Flatter, more upper end.

>>57891058
You can locating objects with your ears because you have things like earlobes that affect sound depending on direction. The response shift imposed by the ears, if known, can be used to synthesize sound source location.
This applies both for the brain itself and anyone who would want to present a simulated space to that brain.

>>57891169
Loudspeakers can, but that requires more work. Easier to just do it with headphones that work with binaural innately.

>>57883185
c-c-c-cute!

this needs reply sir. Anyone has idea of open backed headphones counterpart for mdr v6?
>>57878225

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Status OB1. Are these good? They are just $79. Compared to $1,400 Audio Zenith PMx2. Thoughts?

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioZenithPMx2.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StatusSMOB1.pdf

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Audio Zenith PMx2

Ordered new meme HD800 today cuz of sub 1k price drop paired with a magni 2 uber. Figure I can always get a better head amp later. Did I do good anons?

>>57891909
>$300 headphones
:)

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_125615_Sennheiser-HD800s-Chord-Mojo.html

is this a good deal?

>>57891743
>They are just $79. Compared to $1,400
Never assume anything is good because it costs more. PMx2 is quite reduced in treble.
This Status OB1 has more of a bass rolloff, and a sharper treble plunge.

>>57888210
Quick calc says the Fulla 2 has a bit more voltage and plenty more current. So yes.

>>57891909
I'm pretty sure the Fulla 2 would have been a better fit.

>>57892144
If you really wanted the pair, it is a decent discount.
I wouldn't touch the HD 800S with the HD800 around, and the Mojo is more than a little overrated, it's Head-fi (hype-fi's) darling, even if it kills IEMs

Best setup for movies? All the fucked up audio codecs and 7 channel audio makes it confusing. Using 598s and onboard audio right now. But I'll break the bank for doing it proper now that i can't really use my home theatre setup anymore.

>Budget
Less than $200
>Location
US
>Source
Desktop and stereo reciever with analog and digital inputs. Willing to buy a dedicated amp. Looking for the best possible performance for listening to music.
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
Trying my first pair of open back
>Comfort level
willing to trade some quality for long use comfort
>Sound signature
Not sure. Probably something fairly neutral. I've only owned one pair of headphones so its difficult to make a comparison. I don't listen to much electronic or hiphop but I've heard a v shape can still be enjoyable for listeners who aren't totally interested in bass.
>Past headphones
JVC HA RX700
Great sound quality for price. A little uncomfortable. Looking to upgrade and try open back phones.

Right now I'm torn between the Senn HD598 ($150) and Beyer DT990 ($180)

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>>57892355
I got both of those, both worth it but the DT880s are the more neutral DT headphones

>>57892380
I looked at the 880s as well but noticed they were apparently "semi open body". I'm mainly interested in trying a fully open pair to see if I like the design better than closed or not.

>>57892244
Where do you get your movies from? Do you buy them? I pirate them and they all have stereo audio if I recall.

What are some good, flat, wireless (not needed but preferred) headphones in the $100-$150 range? I'm going to be using these for gaymen (mods no underage ban pls). Preferably circumaural and closed, I can't stand having those pads press on my ears for more than an hour. I want these to be super comfy, as good as I can get for $150. I'm currently using the Memeheiser HD 558s and they're perfect, it's just that they're wired and in order to get my 1337 gaymen potential to the max I can't have these damn wires on my legs.

>>57892506
Semi open is open

Anyone who owns the ATH-EW9? They look like they sound great for how portable but I'm not sure how they actually sound.

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how much of an improvement are these over normal fiio e10?

>>57892936
Literally snake oil.

Klipsch R6i and Klipsch Image S4A II are both $40 right now, which do I get?

>>57892936
Better DAC and amp, but no audible improvement as the E10(K) is already audibly transparent. The Magni amplifier is also much more powerful so that means more volume.
>>57892176
>I wouldn't touch the HD 800S
I can't decide between both. If it helps I'm gonna be EQing it, cost is not an issue, upgrading from HD600.

>>57877101
I bought HD 558s. How hard did I get memed? They sound pretty good to me, and don't seem to leak to much sound

>>57893052
It's literally the best headphone in that price range.

>>57893062
Good point. I got em for $80 at best buy

>>57893062
That would be K701/702, leagues ahead in build quality too.

@57893124
This meme sucks, doesn't even deserve a (You)

>>57892936
normal e10? timestamp it, i have one. that's nice anon.

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My e10k broke after less than 1 year of use. Bought it brand new late December of last year. It never got dropped or treated roughly, it just failed on me. That's the last time I buy cheap chink shit. Guess that's what I get. With the bass switch off, music sounded sterile/flat, with the bass switch on it sounded fuller, but a bit bloated. Was never really impressed with it.

The Fulla 2 just got released, maybe I'll try that. At least that's made in the U.S.A. and seems to have better specs.

>>57893124
>K701/702
Literal no bass high distortion garbage.

>>57893385
As opposed to cheap china plastic cans filled with mud?

>>57884142
>SHP9500's are an option too. Imaging is worse than AT-ADX though.

is that by huge margin?

>>57893419
Eh, depends on what you expect and what you're after.

If you want it for directional sound in gaming you'll definitely notice.

>>57893417
>cheap china plastic cans filled with mud
K701/K702?

>>57893062

what price range?

>>57893052

those are great anon

Trying to prove to a friend that his beats studio 2 have the sound of 50$ headphones. He bought them on "sale" for 125 $ and he thinks he made a good deal. Can you link me to reviews or comparison with better cheaper headphones plz

>>57890335
wrong

>>57894173
https://youtu.be/c19QU97QRT4

ded thred

new thread when?

>>57887173
if your argument is true then by professional standard 20hz is pretty much negligible