Recent American High-School grad here.
How do I get into an entry-level IT position?
Help desk, customer support, whatever, so long as it gives me experience and at least $24k take-home / year.
A highschool diploma and an A+ might be enough, right? What other certs should I get? I eventually want to do sysadmin work, and I've used Linux nonstop for the past six years.
I've set up and ran a few websites, LAMP stack and such, I've set up several home servers and VPSs, I have lots of AWS experience and Linux experience in general. I'm running Void right now.
Any IT anons here that can give me input?
What can I do to sweeten my résumé?
I also speak intermediate German, not sure how useful that is in Houston though. To add on, I'm a novices-intermediate programmer and i am well versed with shell and Ruby. Python and Java are secondary to those for me.
Thanks, /g/
Also general career thread I guess
bamp
>>57776492
Oh I took career class and did successful resumes. First you want to get " experience " by volunteering in tech offices, oh and on your resume give a really shitty sad story or a good story about how badly you wanted that position that will get you there. And hope you don't get matched against someone with a college diploma.
>>57776733
Sob story and pray to cthulhu I don't get in competition with a grad. Got it, thanks Anon.
Learn a programming language (I suggest javascript). Practice it over the course of a year or two. Start working on projects, building out a portfolio, and maybe poke around with some other languages. Contribute to a popular open source project. Make friends with programmers and they can get your foot in the door. Go to job fairs and show consulting firms some examples of your work. Learn how to interview well and pretend like you know what you're talking about. And it couldn't hurt to study algorithms and data structures as well.
>>57776875
Whoops didn't read the part where you know how to program. But the rest still applies. Please don't keep using php!
>>57776916
Why would you not want to be knowledgable in one of the most popular languages out there because you believe in a meme?
>>57776942
It's a fucking mess and it needs to die.
>>57776959
It won't die anytime soon and it's improving with every version.
>>57776875
>>57776916
Thanks anon
I feel like a degree would be useful, and I can get an Associate's with a specialization in CS completely online from a local community college, so that would be a starting point, but I'd be fucking myself into debt transferring to a private college after.
How much is a degree in CS worth for sysadmin work? How much is it worth for entry level IT gigs?
Will an Associates with a CS specialization help me at all?
>>57776975
Don't bother with the degree at the moment.
Approach local IT businesses and ask for unpaid internships or similar. Approach local charities, schools and churches and ask if they need IT help.
Degrees don't mean shit compared to showing initiative.
>>57776975
For programming positions they probably won't care about an associates. I'd say go for bachelor or go full self taught. Maybe a couple classes to help yourself learn more.
Not really sure about sysadmin or help desk. It would probably help you a little bit there but I don't really know. I'd say study a less programming heavy subject such as information technology if this is your goal.
>>57776492
rol
>>57777066
rerol
>>57777018
Dank, dank Anon. That's what I was thinking, just approaching places to do unpaid work to try and fill my resume.
Do you have any knowledge of certs? I think the A+ is necessary, and if I'm doing tech support or help desk work, I'll be dealing with Windows out the ass, so I think a Microsoft cert would look great
>>57777022
I don't want to go into a programming position full-time. I would prefer to keep programming a hobby, although scripting and automating tasks in a sysadmin-y fashion though.
>>57777066
Its ok Anon, I got 00 when I rolled ;_;
>>57776492
penis
its not a good idea to start a thread with a roll-image
I tried coming up with a legit reply, OP. I'm sorry, but I don't know anything about that subject, I just want to roll.
Polite sage since this post is shit.
>>57776492
How'd you pick up your current knowledge and experience? Books, online guides?
>>57776492
roll
>>57777355
reroll
>>57776492
Whatever but the fatty pls kami-sama
>>57776492
I don't see any downside to "the slut", she seems super cool.
Get a shitty help desk job by not being a complete retard and rush your RHCSA and CCNA within a year.
>>57776492
roll
Class rep, class rep, class rep
Roll
>>57776492
>helpdesk
Why would you aim so low?
Get your RHCSA and boom you can start doing the real work, don't bother with other certs unless work pays for it.
Uppity slut pls
>>57777321
By doing, I guess. Years ago, I decided I wanted to turn an old PC into a CentOS home server. I was maybe 13 at the time. Since then, I've just learned by doing. I want a website? I'm gonna set up a home server and put that shit up. Same for OwnCloud, IRC bouncers, anything I could, really.
I started using AWS a lot when they introduced the free for 12 months plan, which is crazy great.
For programming, it was a mix of self-taught and CS classes in school.
>>57777476
I aim low because a toxic family life has resulted in me having extremely low self-worth. I'm trying to get away from family as soon as possible for my own mental health.
>>57776492
give me the waifu
>>57776492
Roll
class rep get
OP here. Rollin too since last time I got 00 ;_;
Same way I'm somehow making 80k with an associates and 1.5 years experience.
Go on Indeed.com, search Linux, and sort by most recently posted. Any decently populated area is gonna have hundreds of applicants for a job, you gotta be among the first to apply.
>>57776492
roll
fags
dem rollz
>>57777711
reroll
Learn assembly.
Nerd get.
>>57777736
welp
Rollan
>>57776492
Roooooooll
rollin'
>>57776492
roll
>>57777018
>unpaid internship
just cuck my shit up senpai
>>57776492
Gimme dat seven
>>57776492
Rall
>>57776492
making a point of rolling just to ignore OP
I work as a CNC machinist where I press a green button every now and then to make parts. I hate my life
>>57777623
Can you setup things without tutorials ?
Can you write full scripts without any help?
If yes, go het your rhcsa and get a sysadmin job
>>57776492
jarl rolling
>>57776492
Galko is pure. Pure!
>>57778132
I can set up some things without Internet help, and man pages go a long way. I can write some scripts without help, but it's a 50/50 on that.
You can't be serious though that an 18 year old with a shitload of NEET /g/ server experience and an RHCSA can grab a sysadmin gig, are you?
>>57778173
what luck!
>>57776492
Rolly olly macaroni
>>57776492
rolling stones
>>57776492
Roll.
>>57776492
roll
>>57776492
Rolling
>>57776492
>highschool grad
too late already my friend, you should have gone to a non shit highschool that had tech clases
also
>two grand a month starting
HAHAHAHAHA
>>57776492
Dubs plis
>>57778438
;_;
muh rolls
>>57776492
Alright i lost my original roll,rerolling!
>>57776492
Rolling?
Rollin gimme dat tomboy boypussy
rollin
czech em
>>57776492
Roll
>>57776492
I want to become the trap gf
>>57776492
8, 2 or 7
Gimme
>>57776492
gimme the tomboy
>>57778480
fuq :(
>>57776492
Allahuackbar
>>57778527
MEME MAGIC
>>57778530
Rerolling for gf
I want to becom the little girl
>>57778562
I'd be happy to be any of them ._.
beep boop zoop
>>57778577
I'm okay with this but I wouldn't smell bad desu
rollan
give me tomboy pls
czech republic
>>57778697
Fuck yeah i win
>>57776492
rolling for dumpy one plz
rollan
>>57776492
roll
Rollando
When we interview entry-level people, we chit-chat a bit first to see if they can interact on a human level. If they can, we then fire off a barrage of questions.
What port does telnet run on? SSH? FTP? Which is control and which is data? HTTP? HTTPS? RDP?
Walk through the OSI model for me. What are the layers, and what would be a representative device for each layer, if any?
How can you quickly verify if a host is up?
How can you quickly find which group policies are being applied to a client (Windows).
How do you find an ip address on a host?
If someone navigates to a web page and receives a 404 error, what does that tell you?
Hands them a hub and a switch Can you explain the difference between these two devices?
Then we'll ask some scenario style questions. You get 3 sev-0 issues at once, how do you determine which to handle first? Correct answer is, you have a team, use it.
I'll ask scenario questions from issues I faced in the past, and see what their troubleshooting looks like. I don't expect a correct answer during an interview, but as long as they seem to start breaking the problem up logically I'm satisfied.
I'll ask BS questions like "What runs on port 24?" I want to see if they will say they don't know, or make something up.
After all that, we'll chat some more and see if it's a culture fit. If so, great, you'll get a second interview with the VP that day or another day.
>>57777476
>RHCSA
Studying for this now, fuck Windows administration. Bored out of my skull most days.
>>57776492
Roll
>>57776492
dubs pls
>>57779399
Roll for lesbianism
>>57779410
In the midwest working for a small msp making around 36k/yr (first IT job and still in school so experience is great). Id look for small and medium sized businesses that will be easier to get your foot in the door.
I have no certs, have some general IT experience beforehand and a couple of IT internships under my belt. In a couple years I will have my undergrad degree in IT + business minor so I intend to stay on board for eventual management or consultant type position with more pay.
Id say your best bet is go to your local cc, get an AA in IT or networking etc (which often gets you a couple certs on the way) and start applying for all junior positions. In the meantime you should be looking for an internship since you just graduated high school.
Gl and dont underestimate the equal importance of your soft skills. Be clean, concise and polite. Listen to your co workers fully before responding e.g dont interrupt. I know this seems silly but seeing potential candidates in our business, they are often looked over for these reasons, regardless of the skillset (again we are an msp and very client facing so cust service skills in general are a must). I imagine there are work enviornments better suited for spergs etc. Just keep that bit in mind too.
>>57776492
how can someone derail their own thread so deliberately?
>>57776492
TOMBOY TOMBOY
>>57779655
OH SHIT LEZ OUT
>>57779670
>>57779655
Rolling for shits and giggles.
>>57776492
roll
>>57776492
Pls be tomboy.
i dropped out of high school.
Roling the second
Rolling for dat Rachel Maddow 7
Waifu the third
Fuck school. Grow your agency and learn on your own or suck cocks.
Rolling.
What about if I just want a comfy ass job that pays 40-50k a year and I don't do shit all day. What types of jobs are those? NOCs? School district?
GIVE ME EVERYTHING ON THE DUMPY ONE
>>57776492
check em
>>57776492
Roll.
>>57776492
rolll
Rollin dis dik
>>57776492
1 or 3 would be nice.
>>57780146
Cuck
>>57776492
>How do I get into an entry-level IT position?
Man the bar around here is really low
Roll
>>57776492
bowling
Just wanted to say
Roll
zero get
>>57780344
i didn't ask for this
Re
Roll
>>57776492
fucking give me a slut
>>57780434
fuggggggggg
Rollin Rollin Rollin
Rawhide
>>57776492
Rolein
sweet thread OP
Dumpy one forever, best waifu
>>57776492
Rolllo
>>57776492
Roll
>>57776492
best girl get
>>57776492
uncropped when?
>>57780533
Oh
Roll agian
which fate is worse- 1 or 9?
I swear to god I'd rather reroll 00 and be a hikikomori till I kill myself than get 9.
>>57776492
roll
did soft hyphens ever work here?
rollan 4 slut
>>57776492
rolling
>>57780555
9 is definitely the worst
>>57780611
you get to be a slut
Just b urself op
>>57776492
For waifu I'll take the dumpy or tomboy, for bang the two sluts and the waifus
Get certifications. Net+, Sec+, CCNA, etc.
>>57780696
Reroll because I'm not into fat bitches even if they have le tits now
>>57776492
roll it up
>>57776492
TOMBOY LETS GO
>>57780797
FUCKIN' ACE
>>57776492
Roll
rollan
>when OP's image is more interesting than the actual subject matter
plz be my class rep gf
>>57776492
I want to roll
>>57776492
Rõll
A+ seems to outweigh school
Both cant hurt.
Especially if you can find a good community college. They're cheap and can be fun and you get good hands on experience.
You're on the right track OP, if not already past an entry level position.
not sure about Houston, but on Eastcoast and the places I looked at didnt give a fuck about degrees, it was all about that A+.
Basically, prove you know your general pc knowledge, and maybe some specifics about the company.. dont act like a complete spaz and look professional somewhat.. and you're golden.
Try to bolster your resume with small jobs and volunteer work.
If you're looking at someone in particular, find out what they do and work with..try to pick up on it and put it down on your resume. If you work for a company that uses Office or photoshop, put down precisely what versions you know, etc. Same for anything such as OSes / programs, whatever.
putting that you know Audio visual has helped me. I guess some people still think it takes a genius to hook up a TV and some speakers.
The language bit cant hurt either. I speak fluent Russian Japanese..it's only ever been brought up once in a job interview. It wasn't useful to them in particular, but i was told it makes you look cultured at least.
Again, not sure about your area, I was able to get any of the few PC tech jobs in my area, I have no A+.. only 9-10 years experience and a offbrand network+ and security+ certs. (school offered a different certification test from comptia.. most good employers seem to look at it funny) I turned down the jobs since they only offered $9/hour..but i cant believe they turned down most people for those types of jobs.
See if you can put some of that code experience to use. I eventually found a job where they need a tech that can do light coding for support on projects. (mostly robotics, automation and database applications) You tend to make way more money, and the work is pretty interesting compared to general techie work.
>>57779353
This. This 1 million times.
30 year old sysadmin here and this is how the world works.
Also IT makes me want to hang myself daily. Seriously consider a career in forestry work while you're young. Spend your 20s as a DJ fucking sluts.
>>57776492
Galko is pure. You shut your whore mouth faggot.
She just wants to be a mother and housewife. Not her fault she had good genes and a lewd body.
>>57776492
rolling for fatty
>>57776492
rollin
>Dumpy one
>smells like sweat
>doesn't care about anything except you
>sex is smelly and slippery
FUCKING SOLD
PUT ALL MY MONEY ON DUMPY GIRL
>>57776492
I don't want to encourage this behavior but I can't help myself
>>57776492
>>57783262
oh god I didn't even look at the chart and I got dumpy one. reading the description, she's actually perfect for me because that's pretty much female me. I feel moved and that's weird. I wish anime was real.
>>57776492
Rollan
>>57776492
seito kaichou be mine
>>57776492
first of all:
-stop dreaming about about yearly wages. It's a dumb thing all of you americans have to stop. Especially if you are looking for your first job where you might get fired or leave the company yourself.
-what you're referring to as LAMP is really GLAMP
-apache-mysql-php while being used everywhere are not the current hottest meme. Learn working with ngnix, postres and other languages like perl, ruby etc.
-nobody cares about how you run a special snowflake distro. Get handy with distros really used by companies: debian, ubuntu, centos, redhat
-german knowledge is good if the company does business with merkelistan. If it does business mainly in the Americas, better learn Spanish or Portuguese
also roll.
>>57776492
Military
>>57776492
Roll
>>57776492
>galko
>slut
stop that
>>57783384
Got the anal qt. Nice.
>>57776492
Rolling
>>57776492
r o l
>>57776492
i don't care about your kiddy problem
roll
Rol
>>57776492
let's roll
>>57776492
>tfw no dumpy gf
>>57776492
ROLLING
sage
Ril
Rerllli
Seriously hope a mod doesn't come in here, i have shitposts to post.
AAAAAAND dub sixes inbound...
Rolling
Come cute wife
>>57776492
Roll
>>57776492
Roll
>>57776492
testing my luck
>>57776492
let's see
>>57776492
what the fuck this roulette is way too complicated
>>57785055
reroll
>>57776492
ROLL
rollan
>>57776492
Dumpy one has no negative qualities.
>>57776492
vocational school worked for me, not sure how it works in america. anyway rolling
>>57785411
rerolling
Rollen
>>57776492
roll
>>57785477
oh what irony
>>57776492
Roll
>>57785588
Lez roll
>>57776492
rollin
dey see me rollin
>>57776492
Roll
>>57776492
Rollin' down the street, smokin' indo
Sippin' on gin and juice, laid back
With my mind on my money
And my money on my mind
>>57776492
install gentoo
>>57776492
lets try again rolling for today
>>57776492
roll
>>57776492
ROLLing again
>>57776492
bumping/rollin
>>57785933
Roll
Galko-chan is not a slut, she is a pure maiden with an untainted heart, you are just retarded
>>57785946
Why!?
>>57776492
>How do I get into an entry-level IT position?
you don't
enjoy wasting your time just to have a pajeet take up the job you would have
>>57776492
pls b gud
>>57776492
>all those short skirts
Pretty sure all of them are sluts.
>>57776492
Roll
>>57776492
roll
>>57776492
rololol
>>57776492
Roll
>>57776492
Roll
Actually, is the IT really as great as everyone around says?
Basically, everytime I open the jobs related news, they scream about how IT guys earns millions, everyone wants them and how everyone should take computer related courses.
>>57776492
Rollan since its impossible to get influence
>>57776492
Roll
Role
Also, everyone is rolling, but nobody notice that everyone have 78 in number, thus everyone gets penalty.
>>57776492
Rooooll
Role2
>>57776875
This is pretty good advice
Also roll
>>57776492
Nice job weebposting an image made to derail threads as your OP
>>57776492
rollinging
>>57777018
>unpaid internships
HE DOES IT FOR FREE
C-Can I call the Dumpy One mommy?
>>57776492
rolling rolling
>>57776492
rerolz
>>57776492
tomboy pls
>>57777018
>unpaid internships
He admits his time is worth nothing!
Enjoy your trips to Starbucks and the copier machine
....wut?
>>57776875
> I suggest javascript
>>57776492
Damn OP, these girls all suck. My IRL gf is literally better than all of these
You've made a grave mistake in what you posted as the OP pic.
Rolling.
>>57776492
Spaghetti
>>57789366
Faggotini
TORTELLINI
>>57776492
rolling
>>57776492
Roll
Make sure to check the newspaper/Craigslist for local jobs, often will have a much smaller pool of competition than anything online.
>>57776492
Rolling for the slut
>>57776492
roll
>>57789970
exact same result as last time
>>57776492
5 get
reroll
This potential thread turned into a rolling shit show.
>>57776492
Pls no 6
Rollerino
>>57776492
Get certs. Go to a community college and take an A+ cert course or something - it'll give you at least a little exposure to the field. If you have no experience, then nobody is going to give half a shit about what grades you got in high school.
>>57787637
You know how hard it is for an average normal faggot to do anything more than entry level Go Daddy heroism?
>>57776492
Rawling
>>57776492
rol
>>57776492
roll
>>57776492
Roll
Entry level it shouldn't be hard. A+ ought to make it easy but demonstrate basic competence and you mightn't need it
>>57776492
Roll
>>57776492
Be SOCIAL, not autist, show off your skills but do it in a non-/g/ way. Social and general core, boiled down good examples of experience comes before anything else! Eagerness for new technology and a positive social attitude is what you need to get through on one of those interviews / hiring processes.
>>57776492
nolan
>>57776492
Lol.
I want the dumpy one.
>>57793807
Score.
>>57776492
rollerino
>>57776492
roll
>>57776492
Roll
>>57776492
rolling i guess
>>57776492
>>57776492
Go for customer support.
>>57776492
Rolling
>>57776492
CLASS REP
BIG MONEY BIG MONEY NO WHAMMY STOP
Roll
Bitch nigger
I'll roll
>>57776492
rallin
>>57776492
rull
>>57776492
Roll
>>57776492
roll
>>57776492
roll
>>57796700
Aah!
>>57776492
FUCKING ROLLING
>>57776492
roll
>>57776492
Rolling
>>57797077
Dubs re-roll
>>57797077
>>57797094
Soooo I'm a tomboy that's fucking a career girl..
Why does this seem like an oddly accurate reverse projection?
>>57776492
Rollerino
>>57776492
Entry-level IT? You sound like you have what it takes. Apply for jobs, even if they seem like you would be a bit underqualified for them. I applied for a job to get experience and see where I could improve, but I ended up getting it. I am paid $12/hour in high-performance computing directly out of high school.
>>57783353
>debian, ubuntu, centos, redhat
This. Nobody uses anything else. Big business likes RHEL. Startups like debian and ubuntu. Nobody offering you a job gives a shit about arch, gentoo, or any other hobbyist distro.
Also daily roll.
>>57776492
rollan
>>57776492
roll because this board is depreciated now
A basic help desk job is a good place to start, or maybe try getting an internship. Hit up a career day at a local college and talk to people.
Most employers will value certs on some level, the Cisco ones like the CCNA and the CompTIA ones seem to be pretty popular.
Also bamp, I want all of the galkos
>>57776492
i just want to be a cum sucking slut
>>57776492
u good op
>>57776492
Rull
>this thread
>>57776492
>High-School
>-intermediate programmer
Right.
r-rolling...
rowlin
Rawlling
>>57776492
Rolling
>>57776492
Rolling
>>57776492
Roll
>>57783289
I voted for trump for you friend
Also roll
>>57800341
So I get uppity slut + slut bonus + sexuaity break and slave penalty, correct?
I already don't play videogames and I don't know my sluts personality but sounds like a win.
>>57776492
install gentoo
>>57800547
>got the tomboy
>also become trap gf
Perfect
>>57776492
roll
>>57776492
rolle
>>57776492
reel
>>57776492
rail
>>57776492
time to roll
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