/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

first!!!1

what do i do about the x220 wireless card?
browsing the web is kind of shitty but i dont know if it is chrome.

any wireless expresscards out there?

hi, I'd like to know whether I can replace the non-backlit keyboard on a Latitude E5250 with a backlit keyboard.
I don't have the E5250 yet so I can't check whether there is a port for the additional LED cable for the backlit keyboard.
Is it safe to assume that such port exists and just purchase the E5250?

Can you connect an eGPU to the T420s (slim)?

>>57764997
can I take the bluetooth from a t420 and move it to a x220t?

>>57765028
>Chrome

>>57765082
Should be a straight swap.

Anyone here using the thinkfan script on Ubuntu ?
I set up my fan to kick in at 60°C, but the fan is still running at 42.

It seems someone used my x220 and updated the battery firmware (the person using it said they just clicked "ok" on a prompt about battery)-and it must have failed-as now I have a nonfunctioning battery - it shows 100% in tray, but the lenovo settings shows it has 0 Wh capacity. Are there any ways to fix that-like a firmware revert?

Just pulled the trigger on my first Thinkpad. T420 with 1600x900 screen, 128 GB SSD, 8 GB of RAM and a second generation i5 (not too crazy about that, but it's fine).
I'm officially stoked. Can't wait for it to arrive.
I've never had a Linux system either, but I guess this is my opportunity to give one a shot. Mint or some Ubuntu variant (Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu?) is probably the most approachable, right? Suggestions?

>>57765655
I'm using Mint on my T420 and the ride is great so far.

>>57765253
well i sure as fuck wont install firefox

>>57765655
Ubuntu MATE

>>57765655
I use Xubuntu on my laptop. Not a Thinkpad but eh.

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Posting this here as well. From >>57766075

>I can choose a new laptop for work. I've been given a budget of €1500, excluding VAT.

>I don't really know what to choose, /g/. I don't need a lot of computation power. It's literally just for on-the-go Office work, browsing, SSH, VNC monitor, and as a powerpoint presentation hub. I don't need dedicated graphics, or a quad core processor.
>I am pretty much OS agnostic. As long as it can dualboot/bootcamp into Ubuntu, and keep the standard OS for Office. About 45% of the time I use a desktop with Windows, and 45% of the time I use a different desktop with Ubuntu.

>I saw these three laptops which could possibly fit the bill. What are your thoughts, or do you have any other recommendations?

>>57765615
What does it say when you boot into a live CD of, say, Ubuntu?
If that is all correct, it's got to be a Windows problem. So in that case, just system restore.

>>57766233
It won't even boot off the battery.
I'll boot to ubuntu later after work and check it out,, thx anon for common sense.

Just got an x230 and drivers are quite difficult to install, especially for the audio card even if it is just a realtek one, is it normal that if I install the driver from lenovo update the audio from the speakers double but at the next reboot it just stops working? Is it the Dolby manager?

>>57766324
I would recommend not to use Lenovo or Windows for drivers. Use sdi-tool.org instead. Saves a lot of hassle with using many different programs, services, utilities.
You might also want to turn off any Dolby things to startup on Windows boot (Task Manager Win8+, msconfig.exe Win7).

>>57766267
Good luck.
And maybe you can reflash that battery firmware, if all fails?

My X60s fan died a while back (among other things) and kept overheating on webpages with any decent amount of Javascript.

So I bought a X230 to replace it for 260AUD. How did I do?

>>57766372
Is there a tool to reflash the battery made by community, or just the lenovo one?

>>57766413
I honestly didn't even know you could update battery firmware. My X220 has been running Ubuntu for several years now.

I have a T430s and still a good battery on it (90% capacity)

I found this http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-configuration.html#chargethresholds but i dont quite understand it

Basically, I'm plugged in all the time, and rarely unplug it to use the battery itself. How do I preserve my battery in the most efficient manner so that when I do need to unplug and travel, I can depend on it?

How do I use the commands in the website and what what thresholds should they be set to? I'm also assuming it should be on BATT0, correct? Can someone explain to me as if I were a retard?

Running Ubuntu 16.04

>>57766372
Do i just need to disable it on boot? I was thinking about just uninstalling it, this thing is taking me days for general windows updates, drivers and general setup (even mail clients are giving me problems), but I know that once it works I'll use it forever without need to format, my last thinkpad with a good windows 7 installation on SSD lasted me more than a year of hard work and shitty programs with absolutely no slowdowns, the problem now is that I have too little time.
Also, I bought it with a good original lenovo battery (the thick one) in excellent state except for a broken dent, but what happens if I just want to change it? Any viable 3rd party brand that is not the general 20€ amazon one? Lenovo wants 150€ for a battery and that is crazy, I spotted Duracell direct which sells 2power batteries, I bought a Duracell one for my camera once and I was super happy with it but i don't know this 2power

>>57766462
That's the disadvantage of having x220 for some gamedev related work(if you are not screwing around with some kusoge and dealing with serious shit you'd probably agree), you need constantly to use windows-only tools (yes, those do exist)

>>57765156
Anyone?

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>>57765655
where my t420 arch boys at

>>57766492
I don't know but in general you just need an interface to connect a PCI-e adapter, like thunderbolt on newer PCs, i think for older ones the comfier is expresscard, do you have it?

>>57766466
$ sudo tlp-stat
It may recommend things like acpi-call and tp-smapi or something. In those cases:
$ sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
$ apt search acpi-call
$ sudo apt install $packagename1
$ apt search tp-smapi
$ sudo apt install $packagename2
$ reboot
It should automatically set battery charge thresholds. You can check again using tlp-stat.

>>57766477
Sheesh, I don't know what you should be doing. What I would do is install Windows 10 LTSB, then run sdi-tool and basically turn of all auto starting programs, if I had to use Windows.

>>57766488
That sounds incredibly painful. I feel for you.

>>57766540
I don't like windows 10, the win32 implementation is just a bit instable which is too instable for me since I use it for live events software and I can't afford a crash (and it happened with windows 10), but I'll give a look to this sdi-tool, thanks

>>57766499
Soon I'll join.
Can't decide between T420 (blaze it) and T430 tho.
T430 has soldered cpu?

>>57766635
I'm not the best person to ask but I chose a t420 due to it being cheaper (£100 for a stock model in A-grade like mine) and the ability to upgrade everything.

Plus three drives is just neat as fuck.

So it depends what you want a laptop for really. If you just want an anime and 4chan machine then go with the cheapest option (t420) in my opinion.

>>57766477
Bump for the battery question

>>57766677
Yeah, I wanted T420 for the same reasons, because its cheap, can have 3 drives and I can upgrade cpu, yesterday was sure that I'll get T420, but now I'm looking at T430 too, because it has better processor.
I think I'll go with T420 in the end, I can upgrade cpu if I'll need to and can spend the saved money on ssd or something.

It'll mainly be used to write html/css, watching chinese cartoons and taking notes at uni, so I guess I won't need better components than i5 2520m and 8gb of ram

Just got assigned a work laptop, 1080 screen, i7-4600, SSD, 8 gigs of ram

This thing is great, I love it

My budget is kinda tight, but I want to upgrade my T420 screen to 1600x900 right now so much. Is it worth it?

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>buy w520 with Quadro novidia
>Have to set to max performance and spin the fans really loudly to play league of faggots without stuttering


Is it just because the card is to weak?

>>57767230
should have got a 1600 x 900 one in the first place

>>57767230

Is the current one 768p? I've been also searching this, and if yes, you'll also need an HD+ cable (nothing too serious, 15-30 minutes to replace). But if you upgrade the screen, you might as well go for a quality one. The screen from the alienware m14x, for instance, is a drop-in swap.

mfw I fell for the P50. Already ordered and on its way. Did I make a mistake? I got the FHD, 6700HQ , M2000M. Gonna put a 500gb samsung 850 and 16gb ram in. Maybe I should've waited for the 7th gen and new nvidia graphics card

>>57767378
What's the panel name? Wanna get it from aliexpress.
>>57767303
Got mine super cheap, price difference was worth it .

>>57767525
idk, my 2520M has 1190 points in singlethread cpu-z benchmark, 6700hq has 1600, isn't it a bit overpriced?

>>57767534
How cheap is super cheap?

>>57767534

Someone in a reddit post claims it's an LG, model LP140WD2 (TL)(G1), so don't take my word 100% on it.

I could post the link, but I risk getting people sperging over
>reddit
And also the comparison photo might bring in /pol/ like the plague

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I have a use case for a laptop with egpu. I actually already have the 1050 ti for it. What's the cheapest business class laptop with a true quad core Sandy bridge or newer that can support that cheap chink shit egpu adapter?

i just truly dropped my thinkpad for the first time, this wasn't just a little bump

>falls screen first
>magnesium roll-cage absorbs impact
>body pushes screen down
>is totally flat
>pick it up
>continue using
>nothing different at all, no scratches (carpet)

i so wish that i had known about thinkpads years ago

>>57767902
Lol nice.

my thinkpad got some issue with the audio driver
got WinXP 64bit installed since its a pretty old model (R61) and i could install every driver except audio for some reason
what can i do ?

>>57768104
that you're still running it is a testament to the longevity of memepads, but that isn't even worth the time or effort anymore

or are you just screwing around with that for fun?

eurofag here. where can I buy an IPS screen for my x220? ebay is full of shitty 'compatible/replacement'

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do you think a refurbished x220 is worth to get?
it has a i7 2640 and probably a new batery and 24 month warranty + Win7 64 Pro (still neds a upgrade SSD, RAM and so) want to replace my old ASUS K52D which is slowly dying or should i just get a used one and rebuild it?

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whats the best out of these 3 ?

>>57768171
i was kinda screwing around to see what i could do
win7 installed all drivers fine, maybe the issue is a lack of drivers for WinXP 64bit
ill just install linux or something

>>57767771
T420/T520 + 2720qm

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disassemble was way harder than i thought it's not techinal issue, because pysical issue

now i can figure out how to replace what i need

>>57768222
None of those. A bit too old and powerless.

>>57768218
Probably a bit too pricy. The warranty is not really necessary for a ThinkPad.

>>57766540
>It should automatically set battery charge thresholds. You can check again using tlp-stat

What are the thresholds it sets it to and how do you know? Is this a program or just something done in the terminal? What should be the thresholds in my case when it will be plugged in most of the time, and should I switch the thresholds when I'm on the move?

Sorry for the supernoob questions, and I really appreciate the help. I'll check this out when I get home from work

I'm gonna be using partitions on my laptop, windows and Linux.

I'm gonna be editing video using photoshop and making audio production, so I'm definitely gonna need a good CPU for
This.

I've got about $500-700 to spend which one is right for me?

Thanks senpai

>>57768456
>>57768218
I mean, look at this story:
>>57767902

>>57768520
You see the thresholds using "sudo tlp-stat". Depending on distro. Debian (and thus Ubuntu) like changing configurations, whereas Arch likes keeping everything as developers intend.

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To desu or not desu, that is the question

>>57768909
>not GNU/Linux

>>57768959
>using DESU/Linux
no familia, I'm actually straight.

>>57768909
That T430 looks in great condition. Nice one anon!

>>57768978
Noticed that too. Pretty damn solid.

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Is T420 a good choice for something art related?
Like drawing and making illustrations.

>>57768909
OS on mSATA SSD?

>>57769069
yes. It's mounted in the 2,5" via sata to msata adapter.
Decided to use mSATA because of almost no generated heat, very low power consumption and increased airflow (t420 and t430 has inflow for the cpu fan in 2,5" bay)

>>57769046
The screen is pretty crap, there is a 1600x900 model but I wouldn't suggest it for art.

>>57769046
If you're down with using an external monitor, maybe. I would advice against doing art on the crappy stock screen.

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>>57769125
>t420 and t430 has inflow for the cpu fan in 2,5" bay
I didn't know that.
I have mSATA SSD with Win7, and mount it in the mPCIE slot.
I usually use it when I want to use Windows only programs or when traveling.
The HDD have Manjaro.

Where did you get the adapter?
I'm looking for a solve it all solution to connect various SSDs/HDDs, and preferably something that uses the eSATA port.

>>57769353
Still, I consume mongolian hand-drawing art from T420 screen, pretty good.

X60s MASTER RACE reporting in

>>57769255
>>57769353
The screen isn't important that much, since most of the work is probably webcomic/ digital art.
Would the CPU be good enough? and should 4 GB of RAM be sufficient?

picked up a barely used X230 from ebay for £110, fairly sure the seller didn't know what it was worth 'cause I've seen them go for minimum £180

now I have two thinkpads, and fuck I love the size of the X series.

Total Linux newbie here, so I need help. I'm planning on installing Mint on my T420 to ease myself into the life without Windows, I've heard that Mint is very approachable to the Windows crowd.
Do I want Cinnamon or MATE?

>>57769422
do you think the X60 in >>57768222 is good price?
i sent a message to the seller asking for the CPU model

>>57768222

Too much money.......none are in good working order.

>>57768218

Way too much money......

>>57769501
>Cinnamon or MATE
Both are decent choices.
I'd go with cinnamon personally.

>>57769502

Too much hassle........the fan in it is wrecked. Mine x60s is in good shape. I paid £60 for mine.

I also got a iBook G4 for £70 on Ebay as well, it is in VERY GOOD condition.

Keep looking on Ebay.......you will find a good deal on there eventually.

>>57769501

I have used Cinnamon and it worked great. With Mint......make sure you get a Long term release.....

Once a version of Mint isn't supported you can't install any software on it.

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>>57767902
Another good thing is not just the active protection that kicks in once shit happens. It's also the passive protection where you can be much more careless carrying it around because you know if something happens you're okay.

>>57769501
I personally preffer MATE but just because im used to the old Ubuntu look

>>57769611

Only Computers I will use are IBM/Lenovo and Apple. They make the best Computers.

>>57768748
>sudo tlp-stat
I just run that and there was no line regarding that.
It suggested to install a kernel module for advance battery settings.

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Just went through some shit and found my Thinkpad from years back, it works fine and I'll find something to do with it, but its got a faster and bigger SSD in there than my desktop.

Do I swap that shit around? Don't want to defile the Thinkpad but goddamn 60GB is not enough for a C: drive.

>>57769706
The command is wrong. It should only be

# tlp stat

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>>57769393
ebay.
I didn't have much choice, because I need the WWAN module.
Also this is how my previous setup looked like. 2x2TB HDDs and mSATA SSD. I don't recommend it tho, unless someone needs a mobile server functionality or something.

>>57769887
Is your background image is this?
Also how much for that dock station?
and what do you use for keyboard?

The previous owner of my T430 apparently ripped the battery out forcefully at one point or something - the pieces of plastic on the laptop side that keep the latches on the battery in place have broken off, meaning I can't secure the battery in place when it's in the laptop. Had already planned on upgrading the battery, but since the broken part is basically the frame of the laptop itself... How do I go about fixing this? I could 3D print small replacement bits of black plastic at just the right dimensions and superglue those in place or something, but somehow that feels less than ideal, too.

Ordered a T430s as a gift and got a T430u in the package. Should I just hang onto it? Is there any reason why one is better than the other?

Assume they both have 8GB RAM, a 128GB DVD and i5 processors. (I know the 430u processor isn't as powerful as the 430s).

>>57770139
post pics

>>57766395
Decent price, where'd you get it?

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>>57770139

Picture for clarification.

>>57770225

And since this is part of the main lower frame, I would basically need to find a total loss T430 somewhere in order to get a replacement part, which would nearly be the size of the whole laptop and probably not be good to have shipped... And finding them locally is nigh impossible.

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>>57770010
I got the dock with 2 keys for ~$10
Pic rel

>>57770225
There's no problem that duct tape isn't the solution. Get the non-residue kind for obvious reasons.

Reducing the max cpu state in windows power options to 90% can be felt, but i want to reduce the temps and fan noise a little bit. Would I feel slowness disabling turbo boost too ?

So, there is this T450s for sale in my neighbourhood for less than 400 euro's.... Seems way too good to be true, it's sold by a used electronics company.

It comes without a charger. Is this thing easy and cheap to fix if anything is wrong? Seems like a steal. Will my X230 charger work on it?

>>57770184
t430u is trash
return it

>>57770636

Unless you're suggesting I tape the battery in place, I'm not sure how tape would fix this... It wouldn't be rigid enough to replace the missing plastic by itself, the battery would be loose in there.

>>57770730
duct tape and lodge whatever you can in any free space with some folded paper or whatever you can get your hands on so it won't be loose. Jerry-rig to the best of your ability.

>>57770826
I might go that route and actually print a shim to the size I need it to be. Thanks for the input!

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xsauc, sell me a t430 pls <3

>>57771305
holy shit

i7, 1600x900, Nvidia, 8GB ram, 256GB SSD T430 for $399. Yeah or nah?

>>57771305
what happened?

>>57771478
should be cheaper according to the buyer's guide. i mean, it'd still be cheaper than some other laptop with those same specs so I guess if you want it bad enough go ahead. Is the BIOS locked?

>>57771708
looks like fire damage to me

>>57771715
Sounds good. Not locked, and seems to have a 9 cell (hopefully genuine). Does have scratches and some of the rubber peeling off the side though.

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good evening gentoomen,

I'm trying to

sudo apt-get install sysfsutils

and I get

E: unable to locate package sysfutils

wat do?
how do I get my picrelated working with all bells and whistles on my fresh Ubuntu install?
I'm kinda new to linux.

>>57771834
Go for it.

>>57771417
>>57771708
>>57771730


true, it was next to a macbook

>>57766499
Can you upload your wallpaper. It's super fresh.

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>>57772039

>>57772054
Thanks. It's soo beautiful. :)

>>57767625
not the original poster but there is quitw a difference between those scores anon

>>57766832
which laptop is it?

2 options for mSATA SSD for my X220. I'll be using mSATA + stock 320 GB HDD for now.
>120 GB Kingston for ~50 euros
>250 GB 850 EVO or Crucial for ~100 euros
Do I really need 250 GB or can I get away with 120?

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If X220 was anime girl who would she be?

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My T420s won't turn on. The power button lights up and flickers, I wouldn't exactly call it blinking.
I've tried everything people say online like the removal of battery and ram and fucking around with the power button. Help me pls.
pic very related

>>57772562
a short somewhere ?

>>57772562
is it only the monitor that won't come on or the entire thing? like even the fans won't move?

>>57772698
I Think it's the whole thing because the USB ports aren't working

>>57771845
heres a link: https://www.devmanuals.net/install/ubuntu/ubuntu-16-04-LTS-Xenial-Xerus/how-to-install-sysfsutils.html

but in general if you cannot locate a package, update your system and make sure you have the necessary repositories added already, and meet the prerequisites for installation

>>57772562

I've seen this happen to laptops with a damaged or completely empty battery, while the CMOS battery was also empty. Unlikely to be the problem here, but try swapping that out if you have a spare, just to make sure it's not that?

>>57772740
have actually gone inside the machine

>>57771845
sudo apt-get update
then try again

>>57766217
Thinkpad X260

So the touchpad on my T420 decides to stop working every once in a while. I could be navigating a page, type something, then try to move my mouse, and it just stops, until I use the nipple, then it'll start working again.

What do?

>>57772562
short on the motherboard
disassemble, inspect, clean if necessary, reassemble

>>57767280
The drivers are not really optimized for gaming, and it's an old laptop card. Of course it's going to perform like shit.

>>57767902
My T400 was dropped down a flight of stairs, knocked off my table at least twice, and even fell out of my backpack while cycling once. The exterior is in absolutely shit condition, but the machine still works just fine after 5 years of ownership. It's the only way to go.

>>57769611
The Active Protection system is less of a selling point in an age of SSDs than it was when hard drives reigned supreme. But yes, still a nice feature.

>>57771305
And I thought I treated my machines like shit...

>>57767902

My T60 survived a 4 foot pancake onto concrete with nothing more than a small scratch on the corner. T42 has been rattling around in my semi for a year and it just won't die. Found the OEM extended battery for it and it can go 4 hours on the battery if I turn the settings down.

>>57771305

god damn

>>57771708

Nvidia graphics most likely.

>>57771305
Poor T520
RIP in peace

Okay bros, I wanna get started in finding the think pad that is right for me, is there a site or a you tube video where I can learn this ?

Is it worth it selling my desktop PC and buying and speccing out a used/refurbrished Thinkpad (T430) for daily use? I built my desktop for gaming but I don't really play any demanding games anymore, so theres not much point in keeping it

>>57773701
which one you want, 12 or 14 inch? Maybe 15? old (better) or new (more expensive, worse)?

>>57773710
Yes
I did it and that's the best transaction I've made in a while.

>>57773701
read the OP, there's a link to a good guide.

>>57773701
>>57764997
read it

>>57773717
I think 15 inch is too big, anything below that is fine for me, I wanna I'm gonna need as much cpu and gpu power I can get for $500-600 range.

No It's not for gaming btw

>>57773767
>>57768909
you'd need $500 to get it in such configuration
also if you'd ever want to seriously gaym on it you can get an eGPU

>>57773426
Are there any precautions I should take while disassembling?

>>57773282
Ah. Bit biased?
Joking. Any special reason for the X260? How about the X1?

>>57773733
I know that Thinkpads are made to last, but how high the chances of a used Thinkpad going kaput? I wouldn't like spending lots of money on a laptop and then having it die, leaving me without a computer

how hard is it to flash libreboot on my x200?

>>57773783
>you;d need $500 to get it in such configuration

What do you mean by this?

About to buy an used x220t.

How do i know if the battery is shit or not?

>>57773853
You could just repair the laptop. Parts and manuals are plentiful.

So I work as a personal carer, basically care care of disabled people. Sometimes there's a lot of down time, and a laptop could be nice.

A thinkpad would be my goto, but they seem a bit more expensive than hps and dells.Is it really worth it?

I'll be carrying it, so x220 seems good. I can get a "grade A" one for ~340€.
1366 x 768 , i7 2620 , 8GB ram, 128GB SSD, 6cell battery

- How bad is 768p at this size? I feel like it might be...ok.
- I might rarely wanna play some mobas, should run ok on this, thoughts?
- Any idea about what I can expect from a used 6cell battery? complete gamble?
- Since batteries are overpriced here (Sweden) is there any recomended international sellers, or could I replace the cells myself?

I'm going to check out and possibly buy a T420 from craigslist this week. Anything I should look out for when I'm inspecting it? The seller is asking for $130 in cash and claims not to have been using it for about a year or two.

Also, are there any good guides on worthwhile upgrades, accessories, and software? Ram and an SSD are a given, but what about CPU, screens, or GPUs? Linux of course, but does the T420 play nice with a particular distro, or as a hackintosh?

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>>57774087
insanelymac.com/forum/topic/285678-lenovo-thinkpad-t420-with-uefi-only/
Works nice with most if not all distros.

>>57773853
Who knows what the chances are.
If you won't treat it like shit it's going to last more than you expect.

>>57772698
and yeah the fan doesn't move either

How outdated is the T420? If I'm trying to run virtual machines on it, will it cope? (i5 w/ 8GB of RAM)

>>57774061
>more expensive than hps and dells
what?

Would it be worth it having Linux, Windows, and OSX all on one machine?

>>57774179
Easily, and if not, just pop in a better processor and RAM.

>>57774203
supply and demand

people meme the shit out of thinkpads

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/12-5-ThinkPad-X220t-Core-i5-2520M-2-5GHz-320GB-HDD-4GB-RAM-Wifi-/131967454668?hash=item1eb9df8dcc:g:uWYAAOSwzaJX~S~F#viTabs_0

yes or no?

>>57774432
>last one
GET

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this was one I used in school It kinda sucks

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>>57774179
Depends on what you will do with the machines.

As for how outdated it is, not very.
- Intel has had no one to compete with since sandy, so performance improvements in the mid range has been weak.
- Intel has been focusing on making better gpus and lowering power consumption (Only to make laptops thinner, not to make battery last longer really)
- ULV cpus is now the standard, normal ones are the "performance alternative". These are weak.

See pic, the standard alternative today is as powerful as in 2011.

>>57774204
>>57774572
Thanks for the reply, I'll probably by a T420 then

Anyone got any experience with the new E5470/E7470? My E6430 is about to die, and E6440/E6540 hasn't shown up on the Dell Outlet for over a year, so I'm stuck with the ULV options.

I'd like to get a thinkpad, but T420/T430 with a 1600x900 screen cost are fairly expensive (350 to 600 AUD) down here, T460 are twice as expensive as the E7470 with worse spec, and the only one in the price bracket is the Edge series.

I see this thread every time I check /g/ but I'm still not sure why. Why do you guys adore ChinkPads so much? Are they like a civic for 3k?

>>57773783
So lets say I buy a cheap T430, all I'd have to do is look for the parts and upgrade it? Where is a good place to buy these parts ? I plan to add a 1080p screen and possibly more ram and cpu.

anyone have any experience with full disk encrypting their thinkpad?

>>57774840
Business laptops are built like tanks, easily serviceable/upgradable, multiple ports and expansion options, and even when 3-4 generations behind with a full powered mobile CPU compared to the ULV shits vendors has been shipping for the last 3 years, it still get the same performance and battery life.

>>57774827
>so I'm stuck with the ULV options
E5470 also comes with full fat processors

>>57775112
>and battery life
Good answer in general but hold your horses, son!

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what is the fastest/most durable thinkpad with this keyboard? modern laptops blow which is part of the reason why i just got a x220. when it becomes outdated i will probably build a desktop.

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>>57775245

>>57775196
They do? I just remember a bunch of i5/i7-u's when I was browsing last month.

>>57775284
W520/530 maybe.

What do you guys think about this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-2349-6C2-H7NZG-14-8gb-500gb-CORE-i5-WEBCAM-DVDROM-AUT-583-/351914630770?hash=item51efbf1e72:g:iUUAAOSwHMJYGWcU#viTabs_0

how bad is the CPU and GPU in the x220i (i3 model)

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>>57775288
Yeah

>>57775196
Not in Australia, you have to get them custom ordered from the sales rep (you can't even chose anything other than 1366x768 screen in the website's customizer. That's including the $3000 version.). Plus, I'm buying from the Dell Outlet so its pretty much always the standard 6300u + FHD screen options.

>>57775288
6300HQ/6440HQ/6820HQ models are available

Any musicians here with a thinkpad?

What screen protector is recommended for the x230t? I don't want the function keys to scratch the screen.

about to pull the trigger on an x230 although IPS models are near impossible to find in Australia. Should I just buy the one with the TN panel or should i go to the effort of buying one from the States or UK with an IPS screen and buying a charger locally?

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Is a t60 a comfy choice for installing linux and browsin da net?

>>57775521
you could always replace the screen yourself, I think they go for like $70

>>57775328
wow, big and ugly. even has a phone jack!!
perfect.

>>57775578
Is it plug and play essentially? Any modifications required?

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>>57764997
Love my ThinkPad

What's the first thing I should do with a new Thinkpad?

Besides installing gentoo.

>>57775771
Encrypt your drive(s) and remove the preloaded software named "Superfish", or "Superphish" as I like to call it.

>>57775871

Which thinkpads come with superfish?

>>57775625
I'm assuming it is. You can probably find some info on the thinkpad forums about it if it requires anything else.

>>57765615
>It seems someone used my x220

Lock it down. Now you know why.

>tfw finally moved my x220'S system on the 750gb SSD I bought on black friday

Updating the SSD firmware was a pain in the ass, but now I'm very happy

>>57774827
I have a E7470 and it's okay, the speakers are quite bad as they're downwards firing and the headphone out has a fair amount of hiss/static even on minimum volume.
The keyboard layout sucks but the tactile feedback is good for today's standards. Touchpad is a bit too grippy but you get used to it, and the trackpoint doesn't have the same levels of sensitivity as a thinkpad.
The Latitudes on the Dell Outlet are the only decent machines you can get in Australia without getting shafted, I see a E5470 with a quad core every 3 months or so, they sell out within the day so you have to use a page monitoring plugin if you want to catch it.

>>57776101
Not entirely sure, I think it's the more recent models and I don't think it's exclusive to only thinkpads but lenovo's other laptops. If you do get a newer model TP, check the certificate manager [certmgr] and search for it there.

>>57776272
I'm getting a T420 because of memes and money. I think superfish is a newer problem, but I'll be looking out for it anyway when I look through the BIOS for any password locks and issues.

>>57776263
Thanks for the info. I'm about to go oversea in a month or so, so I'm trying to get something now to skimp another $100 or so off the cost (by claiming GST at the airport), but if there isn't anything amazing I'll just wait.

There is a E5470 with a 6600u + dGPU (R7 M360) available right now that doesn't seem too bad. How does the integrated HD 520 compare to the dedicated card?

>>57775550
>IBM logo
>4:3
>strong as fuck
Yes it is. Even more if you get the AFFS screen and T61 internals, known as T601F aka Frankenpad

stupid question but i was searching ram for x220 with i5 2520m and the results are confusing. how much ram can i support?

>>57776375
It seems we're paying quite the premium for the 6600U, ehhhh I'd be a bit hesitant and would maybe wait for a quad core one unless you needed something now. The M360 was about twice as fast IIRC, and I think i remember the quad core config cost 1139.
Oh coil whine will be a bit annoying too, I don't know how bad it is on the E5470s though.

Is the thinkpad 13 worth it ? It seems to be in my budget.

If not how do I get into Thinkpads? I want a T430 it looks interesting and I've been told it's nice, I want something that can handle music production software and some video editing.

I'm sure I'd have to upgrade it but I have no idea how to go about that.

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Hey guys I'm trying too update the bios of my T61 to the Middleton bios. Problem is I have a drive with W7 64bit which I'm trying to flash my bios with. Problem is when I burn the image to a disk and try and run it it fails. What do I do too actually update the bios? Also I plan to try out Fedora 25 on it, what's your experience with it?

>>57776480
2x 8gb

Is there an airplane mode option for thinkpads? I ordered an x220. Or is there a way to make it mimic airplane mode?

>>57776804
yes there is a physical switch to turn off all wifi/bluetooth

>>57776546
I thought only the XPS got coil whine? Guess that explains the recent surge of 5470/7470/XPS on the outlet.

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>>57776777
C H E C K E D and for real?
can anyone else confirm?

>>57776879
http://ark.intel.com/products/52229/Intel-Core-i5-2520M-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_20-GHz

>memory: 16GB DDR3 1066/1333

You can put faster memory in it but it'll be downclocked to 1333 MHz.

>>57776574
Seems good to me I personally like the 13.3" factor better and it has usb c which is nice. I heard that the keyboard feels better than the T460's

It's "not a real thinkpad"™, but still miles ahead the usual consumer crap

>>57770559
What kind of layout is that? It looks like a UK layout, with some variation.

>>57765655
I use Windows 7 on my T420 for lenovo power manager with that I can get about 5-7 hours

So to the anon who is going to buy my x220 from yesterday, I found out today that ebay has its staff look at your listings in detail before allowing to to be publicly indexed when it is a high value item

it should be up by tomorrow, hopefully
i already packed it up and everything too, and that 1tb drive is in there as mentioned. i also cleaned it for you, but you will likely want to repaste cpu at some point as i never did

>>57777328
6 cell or 9 cell battery?

This never gets answered, but the sound cuts out on my X201 in both Mint and Windows 7. I am checking out the drivers now, but does anybody else have this problem with their thinkpad? Is it hardware?

>>57777559
if it is both systems then it is probably the hardware.

>>57765225
Hello

I am going to buy a Thinkpad X200, anything in special i should look for other than in good state?

>>57767525
You made a mistake.

>>57777333
Okay thanks, anon.

Any opinions on the T440?

>>57778027
If you can look at it and it's meant to be refurbished check the vents, if it's full of dust they have no done much if anything. Also sometimes when a refurbisher do not know what they are doing they put the keyboard back wrong and it can wobble when you press low on the board.

>>57774557
not a real thinkpad, look for the T,X,W,P series WITHOUT the E.

>>57778071
I have a t440p I like it. The TouchPad is a crime against humanity, however. No hinge latch either, but the build quality is nice

>>57778140
I wont buy it refurbished but used.
Not only it would be more expensive but nobody ships refurbished x200 to mexico.
My only option is to buy used ones for $70-$90.

Also can i check if its LED backlight with the TYPE code right?

My i7 4800mq runs high 50s-low 60s on light load, that's acceptable right?

>>57778193
celsius of fahrenheit?

>>57778344
Celsius

>>57766540
so i start things off by typing
sudo apt install tlp
tlp stat
and i get
Error: missing root privilege

>>57778456
Did you enter your password after the first line?

>>57778501
yes

how the fuck do I use this https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner

>>57778456
su and put in root password, then do the command?

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i ended up removing most of the lenovo software but thisis still here but is a empty link in the control panel. how do i get rid of it?

>>57765655
Mint is pretty great, it worked well on my T430 minus it didn't like 32GB or bigger SD Cards.
Currently running LXLE

>>57766492
No.
T420 does not have an expresscard slot

>>57767280
I'd replace the thermal paste, and you should get better performance...
A T430 with intel graphics handled it fine.

>>57767525
Nah, you should be fine.
I'd probably get a beefier GPU after the warranty expires
P50 and P70 have MXM cards, so they aren't soldiered onto the motherboard.

>>57767902
beautiful

>>57768562
Hmmm...
A W530 w/ i7 and Quadro K2000M GPU should be suitable for your needs. But all thinkpads have 'crap' audio jacks, so you'll most likely want an external.
I sold a W530 for $500 a few months back, and that was with premium crap.

I bought a fairly decent HP 8760w for $260, added 12GB RAM and 500GB HDD, sold it for $700 shipped.

8770Ws are still pricey, i'd try to get one of those if possible for $600
You may be able to get an M6800 for $700.

Dell E6530/20s should be under $600 easily with great specs, they are a lot more abundant than a W530 and 8570w, they are probably the 'cheapest' of the i7 nVidia 15" workstations.

Hey so I'm going to get a X220 soon and I'm wondering if ricing it actually makes a difference? I'm gonna get an SSD and I'm not sure about whether or not to get 8gb of ram or 16gb. Is it worth it?

What other ricing options are worth doing? I am on the fence as to whether IPS display is worth it.

Is intel Celeron good?

I wanted to get back into fooling with linux distros and have a nice little machine to travel with.

I see high praises of the t420.

I put in a bid for a used t420s with the nvidia 4200 and the last guy threw in 16gb of ram, I'll have to get an ssd myself. $310+ a deal?

>>57772542
Just run the 120GB, The SSD should be for your OS and whatever programs you have installed. You're still running the stock HDD.

Personally I'd recommend getting a 250GB SSD and removing the stock 320GB HD for extra battery life. You can plug in an external, use an SD card or whatever for storage.

>>57769725
What model is it?

What's a good upgrade for t420? Which parts are good?

OK, so i figured out the battery tlp stuff (almost)

here is sudo tlp-stat -b

.......stuff here not important imo....

tpacpi-bat.BAT0.startThreshold = 96 [%]
tpacpi-bat.BAT0.stopThreshold = 100 [%]
tpacpi-bat.BAT0.forceDischarge = 0


what are the commands i use to change these?

also which values or min & max if my laptop is going to be plugged in 95% of the time?

>>57769725
Swap that shit, redo thermal paste, you got a screamer

>>57770184
T430u was the 'budget' version, it actually looks a lot more like an edge series laptop.
Downsides of the T430u is you're stuck with a 720p display, plus parts aren't interchangable for the most part.

I'd probably return it, sounds regrettable :x

>>57771305
So sad.
Uhm, tomorrow I might do the screen swaps so I can record and then sell.
Breh I overprice my crap.

I paid $75 each for 5 T430's, and $100 for a few T420s and T430s, though one of them has a bad mobo i think.

>>57772542
We just had like 250GB SSDs for like $65 each.
damn the EU

>>57773853
Other than random errors, thinkpads are pretty stable
T520/W520 had issues where the heatsink would melt the left speaker wires. If they were rerouted then it would be fine.

>>57773988
Download batmon from passmark, it should show the cells that it charges to and what originally it was set with.

>>57774087
Thats a fair price for one.
I'd say just toss a used mSATA SSD onto it, and keep the rusty HDD for storage.

>>57775550
I had a T60 with a shit T2300 and intel gpu, it worked a lot better with ZorinOS. I didn't get that much frame skipping on youtube, granted it was the XGA display but I was quite surprised.
When I had my T60p w/ the T2500 CPU and FireGL V5200 it played Greague of Gregends surprisingly well.

I warmed up by breakfast with it too.

anyone here cover their thinkpad in stickers?

>>57779181
no

>>57779310
okay

>>57779181
maybe

>>57779121
man page for tlp will tell you everything you need to know.
edit /etc/default/tlp

>>57779455
hehe i actually found it just before you you'd me

im here and i think ive found it:

# Battery charge thresholds (ThinkPad only, tp-smapi or acpi-call kernel module
# required). Charging starts when the remaining capacity falls below the
# START_CHARGE_TRESH value and stops when exceeding the STOP_CHARGE_TRESH value.
# Main / Internal battery (values in %)
>#START_CHARGE_THRESH_BAT0=75
>#STOP_CHARGE_THRESH_BAT0=80
# Ultrabay / Slice / Replaceable battery (values in %)
#START_CHARGE_THRESH_BAT1=75
#STOP_CHARGE_THRESH_BAT1=80

im assuming i want to change the greentexted to 40 and 50?

btw i thought a $ in front of text means its a comment, and not a real command init?

>>57774103
doesn't hackintosh on a t420 break the wifi?

>>57779480
>btw i thought a $ in front of text means its a comment, and not a real command init?
>$
i meant # btw

>>57779756
just uncomment the lines you want and change the values

>>57779806
it's not letting me save though?

>>57779815
you gotta sudo

>>57764997
I'm bored and wanna triple boot arch, win10 and hackintosh off an msata. How much space would I need?

>>57779824
1TB

>>57779823
damn

can you show me how i can edit that using the terminal?
im literally a lunix noob

>>57777333
>>57778060
Listing is finally up
I can send it first thing in the morning as soon as I get your info

>>57779851
sudo nano /etc/default/tlp

>>57779702
Yes. you can get a functional card if you install the custom BIOS. I had a USB wifi adapter lying around so i just used that despite it having a shit utility of its own instead of using the default MacOS one. (fuck you Edimax)

>>57779866
ok so i found the lines and changed the values and removed the hastags, now how do i save this?

>>57779913
press esc then :wq

>>57779913
ctrl-x

One of the palm rest screws does not screw in at the bottom of my x220. Is this common? How do I fix it? I've confirmed that the holes line up and everything.

>>57779969
invisible tape

alternatively, swap it out with one of the screws from the drive caddy, maybe that screw is just too worn and can't get a bite?

Hard mode: just kys and end it all, you won't worry about a loose screw anymore

>>57779961
>>57779950
tpacpi-bat.BAT0.startThreshold = 40 [%]
tpacpi-bat.BAT0.stopThreshold = 50 [%]
tpacpi-bat.BAT0.forceDischarge = 0


YAYYYYY!! I GOT IT

JUST WANNA SAY I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AND PATIENCE FRIEND

stripped screw in back of t420 :( any tips?

>>57777333
You ain't got a hair on your ass if you don't draw penises all over that package before sending it.

>>57780156
-----> >>57779999

>>57780161
I thought about printing off a picture of stallman and including it but its too late :^(

i left a .txt for him on the desktop though

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x220 benchmark L M A O

really funny to honest, but what can i do to up it a bit? sdd and some new ram?

>>57780178
always use an SSD in a laptop at this point, its def worth it especially considering the price they are finally at

8gb of ram if not already, i don't know what your needs are but me personally, i am content with 8gb

>>57779950
>:wq

How about just :x?

>>57780220
i have 4gb. one stick is samsung and idk what the other one is. i only had the computer since monday.

Is there a screen upgrade that's 1920x1080p for the t430?

I literally cannot have anything below that, also does anyone have a list and prices for good CPU for it ? I'm looking for a good one to buy.

>>57780263
both work, no?

>>57780174
>i left a .txt for him on the desktop though

Let me guess
>$ cat foo.txt
>install gentoo
>$

>>57773825
Longer battery life and smaller form factor. Also replaceable batt.

>>57780281
No. This is why you do your research BEFORE you buy.

Can anybody help me why thinkfan spewing this error with my configuration?

ERROR: /etc/thinkfan.conf:6: Invalid syntax:
(0,    0,    55)

And this is my config file:

hwmon /sys/devices/virtual/hwmon/hwmon0/temp1_input
hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/temp3_input
hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/temp1_input
hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/temp2_input

(0,    0,    55)
(1,    48,    60)
(2,    50,    61)
(3,    52,    63)
(4,    56,    65)
(5,    59,    66)
(7,    63,    32767)

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>>57764997
good place to order these little fuckers? my x220's battery does have them.

>>57780299
no, just install gentoo

>there will never be a /g/ meetup

>>57780340
ebay? i have to order some myself because one is missing on the front. i took the other side off to balance the computer.

>>57780342
that is a good thing.

>>57780342
I mean that he file contains just "install gentoo", the rest was just mimicking someone printing the file's contents (assuming it was named foo.txt) to the console.

So what does thinkfan actually do and is it needed on a t420?

>>57780389
http://gawker.com/5734573/4chan-is-not-very-scary-in-real-life

once upon a time i used to lurk 99 chan, and i noticed they had meetups.
guess that would only happen if you have a small enough site to support that though

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So my X220 runs pretty hot when I'm playing Darkest Dungeon. Stays around 94C.
Should I worry about wear if I play it for much longer? I don't wanna boot up my desktop for the first time in months.

>>57780322
I didn't buy anything, I'm doing my research.

Which one can do a 1920x1080p?

>>57780389
>ebay? i have to order some myself because one is missing on the front. i took the other side off to balance the computer.

the ones i've seen on ebay are all around $7 after shipping. seems a lot for some small rubber pieces. tempted to make my own.

>>57780474
yeah i know, but i am willing to pay that so my laptop is balanced.

if you have the equipment or skill to do it then get on it man.

>>57780436
w520 is pretty dank and has 1080p screen

>>57780436
that is total BS, t430 can do 1080p

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Replacing_T430_screen_with_a_better_one

you need a FHD ribbon cable and a replacement panel. I've thought about doing that myself but am too lazy, so I only have the cable

>>57780520
You know why you only have the cable? Because the chinks aren't making any more converter boards. But go ahead and trick this guy into buying a T430 anyway, faglord.

>>57780324
help lads

>>57779175
>Breh I overprice my crap.
how much would it be for a t430 with hd+ ?
If I ordered from overseas, i'd like it to be you.
if yu want to send to europe ofc.

>>57780281
t440 is the minimum for that since it uses an edp cable
anything with a lvds cable (like the t430 and below) will need an adapter to get anything better than 1600x900
Also why do you NEED 1080p on a 14" screen?
Why not get like a t520/t530? those nativly have 1080p screens, and 1080p on them is a bit easier on the eyes.

>>57766395
Seriously people, just get a new laptop model at this point

What a cash drain

>>57766677
But it's heavy. It's like 5 pounds, no?

Is $650 a good price for a w530?

Specs:

IBM - Certified/Refurbished. i7-3720QM (Quad 2.6GHz) - 8GB RAM - 500GB HD - W7Pro (64-bit) - nVIDIA Quadro 1000M Graphics - FHD (1920 x 1080) Screen Resolution - 1 Yr. Limited Warranty

>>57781234
You some kind of pussy?

>>57774855
don't upgrade to 1080 screen, unless you're talking about external one

>>57777284
I don't know, I got a standard american qwerty layout

>>57781707
Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.

>>57781812
confirmed pussy

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Got the low power 1.07 ghz I5 X201T. I am assuming maxing out my CPU for moments (shocking, I know) in relatively light use (botnet browser in Mint) normal? Like, if I had a full power 2nd or 3rd gen i5, this wouldn't happen under basic shitposting use, right?

Pic related

Does anyone have the X131e? How is it?

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>>57782025
Also,
>Have X201T with the normal sized trackpad
>Just realized normal X series Thinkpads don't

Guess I won't ever have a x220.

>>57782179
is an x220 good or something?

>>57782240
If you like small Thinkpads

>t420
>install SSD
>reinstall windoze, install drivers using that stupid application
>temperatures are reading at 90-95C and fan is on full blast
It doesn't feel that hot, and it didn't do it before I reinstalled drivers and all of that, is it even related?

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Ok, which one of you faggots are doing this?

>>57782025
Yeah, especially with most modern browsers. The first gen i series just generally runs pretty hot, if that's what you're worried about. My 2520M stayed hot until I started running i3 and qutebrowser.

>>57782179
>X201T trackpad
>normal sized
the one on mine was fucking tiny. the x220 has one twice the size.

>>57782376
install lenovo power manager?

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>>57776415
"Frankenpad" freaking nice, now I'm stoked on getting it, thanks.

>>57782398
>the one on mine was fucking tiny. the x220 has one twice the size.
Nevermind, I'm an idiot who just grasped the concept of a bottomless touchpad.

I'm quite surprised how easy it is to max out a CPU while not really telling much performance wise outside of the fan blowing. I still have scars of everything just locking up constantly on Windows XP era computers.

>>57764997
Any FREE AS IN FREEDOM(TM) 802.11ac cards out there?
Old T400 and X200 thinkpads have 16 pcie 1.0 lanes on PCH, that means at least 4 lanes per slot = 8Gbit. That exceeds AC speeds easily and also has Bluetooth 4.0 on USB bus. I'm not even asking you about WiGig.

>>57765655

Ubuntu.

Xubuntu feels great, but XFCE has severe compositing issues that fucked with my autism

Personally using my own preroll of Debian wheezy I've had for 2 years on a T420 with exact same specs (128GB ssd was aftermarket, originally had 500GB magnetic HDD)

Guys I am thinking about buying a Memepad for programming / working and wasting time at uni / web browsing / watching movies. No serious computing, no video games (well, maybe NetHack).

How does the keyboard feel on a T420 compared to a T410? A friend has the T410 and it feels so good, but it seems a _little_ outdated.
Also what hardware should I upgrade on a T420 apart from the HDD (replace with SSD)? Will be running GNU/Linux, of course.

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Just picked up a Taiwan import T40 thinkpad for $20. Its still in good condition except for a broken battery. Are these old thinkpads viable to use for web browsing and word documentation smoothly when running a light setup like minimal gentoo with i3 ? Also how much is a good replacement battery cost?

>>57783197
I've found myself typing on my T420 a lot more than on my desktop. The keyboard is that good.

guys, i have a problem with my new x230, whenever i put the laptop to sleep and wake it up the thinklight icon won't go away unless i turn it on-off, i'm under windows 7 and tried everything on the forums, even if the problem looks to appear more often on windows 10, reinstalled the video driver, reinstalled the osd driver, everything, someone can give me an advice?

>>57783523
Buy new 18650 cells and resolder them.

>>57783538
reinstall thinklight driver and windows

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