How are my British friends going to protect themselves from the

>>57751728
I'm not, can anyone really be asked to change their daily browsing habits? So what if my ISP is keeping all my internet history data? Have fun looking though thousands of wiki pages and porn.

Whats happening to the britbongs?

>>57753075
>can anyone really be asked to change their daily browsing habits?
Non-plebians can

By not using Google (an American company), Microsoft (an American company), or Intel or AMD processors (American companies).

>>57753098
I think your confusing Non-plebians with autists again anon.

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they can't arrest us all

>>57753096
They are passing a legislation that will allow ISP's to keep internet history and user data for authority's to look at if you do something wrong.

>>57751728
Why should they defend themselves?

>>57753103
I do love how quickly everyone forgot about PRISM.

>>57751728
probably just use VPNs and Tor or i2p.

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>>57751728
>the general populace doesn't give a shit
>the tech literate, privacy-conscious group will find a way to avoid being logged

Same as always.

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>>57751728
No need to. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

>>57753075
They don't have to manually look through it, they can get a machine to do it, create a profile of you, decide whether or not your daily patterns or deviations from them are similar to a known criminal's (and look where you are), then submit your profile to be reviewed or investigated by a person

If they don't reppeal the proposed law VPNs will become commonplace with the tech literate and possibly with the normies too, any good provider has their own software that makes it super easy to install and run, personally I'll be running a good chunk of my traffic through TOR now after that list of agencies that have access was published, I mean the food standards agency give me a fucking break.

I wonder if Theresa May has a plan to force ISPs to expand their data storage by several magnitudes because being asked to suddenly start capturing the data of tens of millions of people is going to cost IPS's big, honestly if the bill does get struck down it'll be because of lobbying from ISPs for this very reason.

>>57753632
>normies
STOP USING THIS FUCKING WORD FROM /r9k/
IT'S "NORMALFAG"

>>57753632
Storing a log of browsing habits doesn't take that much space or effort.

>>57753696
Normies is more derogatory in my eyes.

>>57753753
Even if it's text logs, logging 64 million people who regularly use the internet is going to be costly.

>>57753171
Not allow, force.

Make 4chan that doesn't tell Google and FBI anytime someone posts on it first.
I would like it fully distributed (though central servers are not a deal-brealer, they just could lead to another hijack), moderatable (not sure how much you need, too much power given to mods means trouble, but there sgould be somepne to delete CP, or maybe something more smart) and hiding everybody's IPs, personally. Would also need to not use Google captcha, not sure what to substitute it with.
Until such a site exists, there's only so much you can do to guarantee your privacy.

>>57753171
Snowden said that "The NSA love GCHQ because they do things that the NSA would never be allowed to do".

>>57751728

VPN+DNScypt=A few privacy plugins. Good enough to stop GCHQ.

Add TOR for anything really secure....

Encrypt any emails with private data....

Don't use windows 10....

Really though I assumed they were already spying on everyone, and this is just a formality.

>>57753864
>Even if it's text logs, logging 64 million people who regularly use the internet is going to be costly
Plus all the connections a modern webpage opens for hotlinks, ads, tracking, analytics etc

>>57753075
>>57753198
>>57753328
No one seriously believes this, do they?

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>>57751728

I was just about to start preparing, anyone know a decent VPS provider that doesn't mind piracy and doesn't keep logs? Just gonna install open vpn on it and proxy all my traffic through it, I'm not wasting money on a VPN that's IP will be blocked almost everywhere.

>>57753632

If you use encrypted services to mask your activities you will be flagged as a person of interest. The Government now has a legal right to hack your machine to watch your activity.

>>57754224
They should get rid of Freedom of Speech since I don't have anything to say.

>>57754226
Start with getting alternative firmware on your router (DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.) if you own one. I'm not going to force you to install Linux, but please, either switch to a more secure OS which doesn't have a tendency to leak shit about you, or harden your existing one.

>>57753969
>Good enough to stop GCHQ.
LOL. GCHQ is worse than then NSA. That will not stop them.

>Add TOR for anything really secure....
It's Tor. Tor is good for anonymity. The security is the same for your regular web browser.

>>57754235
You shouldn't make it easy for anyone. The legal right to hack is more concerning.

>>57754318

I already use linux, I just want a VPS rec so I can set up open vpn to work around any of these potential porn blocks that might come into place in the near future. Last thing I ever want to have to do is self identify to verify I'm over 18 to access a porn site.

>>57754330
>You shouldn't make it easy for anyone. The legal right to hack is more concerning.

Indeed.

My internet facing computer will be running Kali Linux from DVD. No hard disk, at all.

>>57754370
Using a vpn will prevent most of your information going to most government departments and only the GCHQ would know who you are.

>>57754439
Less government departments have data on you = less damaging when a data breach happens.

>>57754370
is full disk encryption not safe enough?
why not use tails or whonix?

>>57751728
obey the law?

>>57754673
How does FDE protect you from internet hacks?

>>57753171
Iirc it was worse than that.

I am starting to question if maybe privacy conscious people should become terrorists and claim special rights. It seems to work for other people.

>>57753480
So someone looks at it and finds out I'm not a criminal. Now what?

>>57753969
A VPN already encrypts DNS requests. That's the whole point.

>>57753969
You can stop your local cops from looking at your questionable porn habits, but the GCHQ will always find a way in. Nothing is beyond their reach.

>>57754950

You might wanna read a bit more on that friend.. All DNS requests go though your default DNS server, so unless you specify a DNS other than your ISP the requests still go though it.

VPNs by default do not encrypt your DNS requests.

>>57755364
>. Nothing is beyond their reach.

They can't hack my 1986 Motorola 68000. My network connection maxes out at 19,200 baud rate. Any snooper will make the network crawl. They'll be spotted a mile away.

I don't see TalkTalk complying with this, they can't keep their database secure so they won't risk keeping people's information if a 15 year old of all people can hack into it.

Anyone who browses 4chan will be flagged as a person of interest, you'll be given a threat level and a detailed profile will be created about you, everything from your name, age, IP, address, browsing habits, mental or physical conditions, historical social work information (if any), information on relatives, workplace etc etc it will all be used to gain a profile on you.

And if you start acting dodgy, I hope you'll enjoy the midnight raid.

Apparently it has been made official today (Tuesday for those that have transcended time)

Not sure how ISPs are even reacting to it.
Especially smaller ones. They haven't the resources to do shit like that.
Everything has been hush-hush about the whole process. Probably on purpose.

Protip: these things were made legal, but it sure didn't stop these things from being done previously, illegally. The backbone was tapped over a decade ago.
You're already a target if you were up to dodgy shit. The instant you start googling dnscrypt or VPNs, you're gonna get the party van come knocking.

>>57755871

It doesn't become law untill 1st Jan 17.

At this point it feels like the use of TOR or any other similar proxy or encrypted software will be considered a criminal offence very soon... so, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

And with the fine comb they'll be checking out peoples internet history now, well, a little casual piracy will be quite easy to prosecute.

So people either have to stand up, fight for their rights, and not just a hot flash of a protest, but a protracted campaign against it or conform, you'd have to pull of some daily mail tier bullshit to get any political movement on it and unfortunately a few angry columns in the guardian arnt going to cut it.

>>57755902
Weird, I read earlier it was today.
Maybe it is only being stated that it is now in process to be made official law, to give them time to prepare.

>>57751728
>mass surveillance
The government isn't that capable.

>>57755871
They may have been done illegally, however now it's the responsibility of your ISP it means security of the collected data will likely be lower than it was before. Because the ISPs will implement the new system as cheaply as possible

>>57751728

Ive got a VPN now, which i never bothered with before. Now gonna connect to it through the neighbours wifi :^)

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>>57753075
>b-but nothing to hide

By that logic you wouldn't have a problem with someone placing cameras inside your house since they will surely be having fun watching you fap

>>57753171

Except its searchable and can be viewed without warrant.

You dont need to do anything wrong, then can look and find something. Time to hack some MPs laptops/desktops and search for lolicon and childporn all day.

Tie that too some MPs and they may think it was a bad idea.

>>57755992
The VPN isn't de jure illegal, but jacking a neighbours WIFI is.

>>57753969

>just a formality
Kinda worse than that. Now they're legally forcing your ISP to help them make it even easier

>>57756033

In the block of flats where I live, theyd have trouble finding it was me. Unless they are onsite with some highly directional wifi scanners to see where my signal is coming from

>>57756028
Thats the point. Their shit has been getting exposed a lot recently, now its the public's turn.

>>57756028
>Time to hack some MPs laptops/desktops and search for lolicon and childporn all day.
Yeah, that'll happen.

"Some evil hacker broke in to my computer and did it"
Actual investigators that don't use silly lie detectors will confirm that.
Case dropped.

Being tied to an allegation only ruins the lives of the average shit person.
I mean, fuck, have you MISSED all the pedos MPs, football coaches, hospital workers and celebrities?
They got away with shit for years despite being actual pedos.
People of significance that get labelled a pedo will shrug it off after the case is dropped. They already live "outside" of general society.

>>57755955

They can't outlaw VPNs; many businesses use them, they are ubiquitous.

>>57756206
No but they can make it require a permit, and unauthorized use could become a criminal offense.

>>57755957

I think it received "royal ascent" or something today - a rubber stamp from the Queen, basically. The law comes into force on January 1st.

I might be wrong, worth checking I guess.

>Our logs show that you've been looking at kiddy porn for years
>Since everyone knows that we record everything everyone does on the internet they will believe us and your family and friends will abandon you (also you're going to jail for 10 years lmao)

Should not have said that negative thing about your government citizen.

>>57756226
Yeah probably was that. I remember that had to happen, well, "had to", a traditional formality at best.

Although she technically does have the power to strike something down, I don't think it has ever been used. (and the fact she never is, well, yeah...)

>>57753142
Autists generally don't like deviating from routine so you're actually the direct opposite of right.
http://www.autism.org.uk/about/behaviour/obsessions-repetitive-routines.aspx

>>57754316
But they literally have in the UK

>>57751728
Moving

>>57756312

I'm considering it.

Luckily, I have an EU born grand parent so I can get an EU passport.

>>57756269
>so you're actually the direct opposite of right
So wrong then? You sound like a politician

>>57755649
TalkTalk seems to toe the line with this kind of shit, they were one of the first to introduce the opt-out porn filter.

>>57756376
"Porn filter"
Shit filters anything considered "bad" for "children".
That is, you know, except from social networks, which are provably more damaging to teens than porn is.
But hey, the prudish are the rulers of the Kingdom. OBEY.

>haha who cares I'm not a criminal
>2030
>Want to sue a company
>They pull some post from 2012 when you said "nigger" and say they'll release it and run your career
>Want to run against a political incumbent
>More blackmail
>Want to protest something
>More blackmail
>"Lol but I haven't written anything questionable in 2 decades"
>They edit your "Internet passport records" to look like you did anyway

>>57756009
strawman

>>57756423
I think they can only legally archive for 1 year. Well, they can naturally extend that...

And as far as i know, they are only storing meta data, where you've been and such. Not actual contents of posts you've made.

>>57756429
Why wouldn't you want one in your home? Don't dodge the question

Everyone knows the government here is watching them but for them to go as far as this and then portray it as a good thing disgusts me.
I was weighing up the options of moving out and getting a job overseas instead of working here. Thanks May, you're definitely making the choice easier for me.

>>57756454
hed have to see and think about a camera. Its not real if he doesnt have to see and think about it so its all ok :)

>>57756450
Yeah just how the NSA cell phone records was just metadata and then it turned out it wasn't and actually everyone's phone calls are monitored by bots listening for keywords 24/7. And yeah right now it's 1 year, but should we only protect the childrens for one year? What are you, some kind of a monster? Think of the childrens

>>57756423
Jokes on you, I've never said anything that's considered racist or offensive. You stupid nigger faggot.....shit

>>57755955
>So people either have to stand up, fight for their rights, and not just a hot flash of a protest, but a protracted campaign against it
Then we are fucked, not enough people care and the few who do are too weak willed and incompitent to get anything done.

>>57751728

tor browser.

>>57756295
This.

UK:
>No freedom of speech
>Get arrested for tweeting at Cadburys for a white choclate freddo
>Go to jail for tweet
>Lose job, sign on at job centre
>Dole lady can see every webpage you browse
>Lose dole money due to looking at non-missionary pornography
>Lose home due to no money
>Homeless
>Get abducted one evening by masked men
>Taken to strange house
>Get raped by MPs, BBC presenters, police constables, and football managers
>Only David Icke believes you

The above has happened before, and will happen again.

Theres literally 2 ways people can fight back.

A cat & mouse game of cryptonet technologies or a protected campaign for digital rights and privacy.

Both have their drawbacks, the latter being the more dangerous, but perhaps the more successful solution.

>>57756500
Proposed legislation on both sides of the pond would make TOR users light up like firebugs and allow police to search your computer remotely with no warrant

>>57756530
What is open source software with encryption enabled?

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>>57756527
>David Icke

When is someone just going to make the Internet 2 so we don't need to use the original one?

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>>57751728
>tfw halfway through a degree in Digital Security, Forensics and Ethical Hacking
>all this is going to do is widen the job market for me
I'll live with it

>>57756351
it's called emphasis

>>57756544
If you're such a badass hax0r that the FBI can't get into your shit they'll just get a warrant and if you don't cooperate they'll stick you in jail indefinitely

>>57756583
They sure are broadening the definition of ethical.

>>57756583
Don't tell people I like traps anon, please.

>>57751728
When is hiroshima going to stop making people pay for a 4chan pass just to use a vpn?

>>57756591
FBI has no jurisdiction in my country. But let's pretend that it does, they can't force me to give away the encryption passcode to my computer as that's protected under the 1st amendment.

>>57756450
You think the guys at GCHQ aren't logging everything like NSA are?

They've had backbone access for over a decade.

>>57756489
See, you say that, but words that were once not racist became racist.
I remember seeing some show about it where old people were going around towns asking younger generations about various words common in their days.
A large number of said words are words now considered horribly offensive by younger people.
Cunt is now considered sexist, apparently.

And just like the "exposure" paradox, just the SIGHT of it will likely be considered offensive, even if it was used only in an educational context. (like how CP is technically not protected for people that administer websites. You can be arrested for the mere sight of CP, even if you were deleting it via moderation of content by a 3rd party, for not reporting every incidence)

>>57756557
Good luck maintaining a mesh network in post-privacy Britain.
They'll be hunting down nodes all the time. They'll get more funding, private prisons will grow in numbers. (likely from US prison operators)
It will be even more funded than the drug war, which will likely be overturned sooner or later since the Brexit shit will mean they could make mad dosh on taxing it instead.


What's that, you want to go wired dark internet? lmao gl you currency champion

>>57756615
arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/05/feds-say-suspect-should-rot-in-prison-for-refusing-to-decrypt-drives/

I wonder what'd it mean for pirating stuff, most ISPs have looked the other way for quite a while, but with all your activity archived and searchable to certain agencies... there might be pressure on the government to allow content holder organisations access those records making it a breeze to prosecute anyone who's used thepiratebay or whatever secret private tracker is cool at the moment.

>>57756405
Yep, this country is fucking stupid.

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>>57756596
ikr, almost certain they just shove that in the title so the government can't go "hey you can't teach people how to do that!"

>>57756603
nothing is sacred

>>57756641

That's obviously some specific case where there has been evidence.

Not that 'prosecutors urge' makes it law.

>>57756672
Yeah "some evidence" that's not on anything you own is enough to keep you locked up forever

>>57756644
>>57756405

This porn filter thing was just a rumour it never became reality, no matter what the dishonest media say. I didn't opt into it and yet i can watch porn without problems.

>>57756697
It's being reintroduced right now. You should have learned by now that when government doesn't get its way it just tries again and again and again until it does. Remember those SOPA/PIPA protests? They passed that shit anyway

>>57756686
Seems like America is more fucked up after all.

>>57754224
If you're not doing anything wrong you have no reason to defend yourself from being surveilled.

>>57756729
Again, thats what the media say. We'll see..

>>57756697
It wasn't a rumour, they tried to pass it and they were told that it's a fucking unreasonable thing to do by almost every ISP. Then Cameron bitched and whined because he literally doesn't have a clue how the internet works.
So now May just passed this instead.

>>57756697
Trust me, it's fucking legit.

I've had to deal with retards turning it on by mistake and blocking even this site, shopping sites and such.

And their servers (at least, on TalkTalk) take fucking ages to reverse the decision to block, anywhere from a few minutes to 30.
It's not just on / off, it's on / off in fuck you wait your turn cunt.

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>>57755967
It doesn't have to be. It mandates that ISPs (already locked in a price war) do the collecting and storing. Govt will provide some compensation for this but refuse to state they will cover all costs. When the max fine a company can receive for data breaches is £500k there is no incentive for them to do this with our safety in mind.

Whatever they try to block, it will work just as badly as their pathetic attempt at blocking illegal downloads.

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>>57756697
>parents opted into it
>couldn't even browse half the boards on this website anymore
>didn't know the password for our Virgin account
>had to lie to them that I needed to turn it off cause my games weren't working or something bullshit

>>57756837
In some countries it's very hard to pirate anymore. Friend living in Germany got fined a couple thousand for a few movies. Don't know if he managed to avoid paying

>>57756869
>parents
>didn't know the password
>had to lie to them

Couldn't you just unlock it with your good boy points?

>>57756957
I'm 20 and in Uni, I can't move out because I don't have the money.

They didn't purposefully withhold it from me or anything, Just never needed it before

>>57756991
>can't move out because I don't have the money.
Nigger, I had no money, too. The student loan and grant is more than enough to live off of and pay rent, even if you don't work.

>>57757114
Don't listen to this guy and fall for the moving out meme ASAP, move out when you have the money to live comfortably to a point where you don't even need to think about bills + rent.

>>57755417
A (properly configured) VPN encrypts everything. It makes more sense to just configure your VPN to reroute everything (most VPN providers already do that) instead of setting up DNScrypt

>>57757114
>taking a student loan

>>57756944
Usually they are happy to give you a slap on the wrist, but its pretty effective at making people too scared to pirate anything again.

If they caught you once, would you be willing to take that risk again?

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Any decent ISP would just send a letter out to it's customers asking if they want government-approved blocks run by the BBFC on their internet. They won't just roll out shit with no thought, it actually makes the Snooper's Charter and Data Economy Bill pointless.

>be teenager
>parents receive letter from ISP
>"Tony, I know fuck all about this. Should I put those controls on the internet?"
>"No dad, if you do then all the websites I visit will be blocked."
>"Alright then lad, I trust you."
>depending on where you live (given the GCHQ are more prone to snoop on urban areas in southern england), life will continue on as normal
>even then you can just fire up TOR

Wow Theresa, nice "powers" you got there. Your legislation doesn't even protect "muh chilluns", it just boosts your power fetish.

>>57757144
How does one 'properly configure' a VPN then?

>>57753328
>First they came for the jew and I did not stand up, because I was not a jew.
>Then they came for the Slavs, but I did not stand up, for I was not a Slav.
>Then they came for me, and no one stood for me because there was no one left

Learn2history dumbass

>>57755967
Governments use other governments to spy on their citizens where they are unable. Look at America spying on the UK, for the UK, for example.

>>57756603
Don't worry anon, everyone already knows you're a faggot.

>>57757259
Watch as he never replies.

>>57757250
>given the GCHQ are more prone to snoop on urban areas in southern england)
The fuck are you talking about?

>>57757872

he's saying that the snoop buddies don't really care about anything outside cities

but with a vpn, you can easily get around the local police. the gchq though? nothing gets past them.

by using neighbours unprotected wifi yo

>>57758256
>Browse questionable shit on neighbour’s WiFi
>Neighbours get a dawn raid
>Police find nothing, notice WiFi was unsecured
>Look next door
>Find typical /g/-tard
>Check internet logs for /g/-tard
>Fucking nothing

It's not going to take them long to put 2 and 2 together here.

>>57754927
frist they take all your technical equipment - anything capable of storing data, desktop PC, mp3 players, usb drives, phones, laptops, etc, then check all files against a database of known CP and loli drawings (yes, drawings are illegal here) and also check for any imagery that may indicate racism, extremism, etc

if they find nothing, youll get your equipment back in pieces, in a cardboard box, most likely damaged, after 6 months

happened to a guy i know who got accused of being a pedo by his ex-wife, they broke his RAM and one of his hard drives developed clicking/grinding noises

>>57754439
>only the GCHQ would know who you are.
How?

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>amerifats talking about brits to distract themselves from the fact that they're being spied on by the NSA
Is there a name for this kind of psychological phenomenon?

>>57760229
Schottenfreude

>>57753096
Loads of government sectors including the food standards agency now has access to everyone's browsing history.