/mkg/ - mechanical keyboards general

>>57722120
gj starting the thread off with a meme switch

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>mfw waiting for my new keyboard in the mail

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Lolita spyder owner here.

There's one fault about this keyboard and I'm not sure if it's just mine or it's a matter of build quality.

The shift keys and space bar have a switch on the middle and a couple of stabilizers(?) on the sides which fit into the cherry-like cross inserts.

My left shift, however, if pressed on the left, tilts and makes the press harder than it should be. It all seems to fit perfectly, but it still tilts, as if the stabilizers are not synched.
Has anyone ever had a problem like this?

inb4 "cheap chink shit", I know about that. Just trying to come up with a solution.

>>57722166
are you the guy with the glossy v60s

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$50
Do I get it?
Do I even want memechanical switches?

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Friendly reminder that if you aren't typing on ZEALIOS you are not living your life correctly

>>57722182
>lolita
fucking pedophile
also just lube up your cheap chink shit

>>57722197
dew it

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Maybe I'll have better luck cnc'ing this stuff

>>57722197
its $50 just go for it

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What's the closest keyboard to a whitefox that I can buy RIGHT NOW?

MUST accept gateron switches though,
none of that cherry crap for me thanks

Hey guys should I spend $200 on a Corsair RGB keyboard with brown switches?

>>57722250
RS68 on originativeco

>>57722261
no
if rgb is worth so much to you, get a coolermaster or ducky

>>57722287
Those don't have gamer cred though

>>57722280
Do I have to solder?

>Budget
~$60

>Location (continent at least)
United States

>Preferred switch type
Blue

>Layout
100%

>Form factor
ANSI

>Backlight
Yes, if possible.

>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech G15

>>57722201

>not a clicky switch

Into the trash it goes.

Browns vs Clears? for typing and gaming

>>57722469
>memes on memes

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>ANSI

>>57722466
browns are shit switches hence the color

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbFTOadnnJo
why are cherry switches so shit

>>57722376
Check the page for them.

Hey senpai how much was your tada68?

Did you go with 3tg gateron?
Did you have to assemble/solder it yourself?

>>57722567
about 120 bucks with shipping

Yeah, 35g gateron clears

Nope, came pre-assembled and everything, though I wouldn't have minded it being a bit cheaper and assembling it myself instead.

>>57722591
what's your opinion on gateron clears?

>>57722591
Fuck now I regret not hearing about it in time

Would have been fun

>>57722615
their like cherry clears

>>57722665
No they're 35g.

Cherry clears are like 50g iirc

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>>57722615
Easily my favorite switch so far.

Next up would be Topre, mx clears and gateron black. And I've still got some other switches to try. But gateron clears, especially in combination with the TADA68, providing a very nice sound in combination with the very solid plate and case, and the thicc pbt keycaps.

That being said, I've still got some other switches to try out and also use other keyboards with different switches depending on what I'm doing. But the TADA68 has been getting the most use of all by a long stretch.

>>57722691
like cherry clears thats 15g lighter

>>57722711
any budget keyboards with gateron clears you can recommend?

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>>57722120
>APPLE A1048 FV
Worth buying?

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>>57722729
I honestly don't know of any.

The TADA68 is already almost budget to me, especially when you consider the features it comes with.

You could get some cheap-ass chinkboard and replace the switches with gateron clears.

>>57722729
MagicForce 68

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>>57722800
No. I took one apart some time ago. The build quality is decent, but it feels like mushy crap. The only nice thing about it is the aesthetics.
It's a shame apple can't even into good design anymore.

>>57722615

The only gateron to avoid is greens.

>>57722711
what keyboard is that friendo

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>>57722866
Take a look at the discussion and make an educated guess.

>>57722711
what about browns? I'd like to a have some tactile feedback.

>>57722884
>That terrible tab mod

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I got a good deal on one of these
What am I in for

>>57722985
nice
even if you don't like it you can sell it for a good amount

>>57722985
bullshit

they're out of production

good deal my ass

they realized they could make more money so they did their own https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2114

>>57722897

>want tactile feedback

Then avoid browns.

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>>57722897
Browns suck ass, they're barely tactile. If I had to describe browns, I'd say that they feel like reds with dirt stuck in the middle.

My first keyboard was with browns. They're nice enough switches, but they suck ass compared to any other switch.

>>57722857
thx for saving money.

>>57723041
what would you recommend then if I want some tactile feedback without the click clacks?

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>>57723041
No wait. That's the steelseries POS I had prior to getting my first mech.

here we go

>>57723056
My pleasure.

Get an old AEK II if you want a nice keyboard, though you'll have to either make your own or shell out for an adapter. But at least they're solid keyboards.

>>57723084
clears

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>>57723084
cherry clears, also one of my favorite switches.

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Any good options (China, probably) for some mechanical keyboards around $30? I'd like to pick some up for friends for Christmas.

Tenkeyless preferred since that's what I can get for the money. Full would be great but that's gonna add cost.

>>57723125
>>57723104

>GTR - Clear - 35g Linear

How can it have a tactile bump if it's linear?

There's a Das 4 Pro for sale for $80 on my local craigslist. Is it worth picking up? It'd be my first mechanical and I really want this one for the numpad and media keys/volume knob, only catch is that it's the Mac version.

>>57723125
wtc nerv keys

>>57723199
Cherry clear =/= Gateron clear

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>>57723199
Cherry clears, not gateron clears.

Hows the quality on this keyboard?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1897

>>57723125
ffffffuck where do you get that keycap

>>57723223
Aliexpress

>>57723230
>>57723224
My bad. So, what would be my option with cherry? (or kailh for that matter)

>>57723279
link, familia?

>>57723264
some chink website

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>>57723223
>>57723264
ebay, aliexpress, just about anywhere

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NERV-Backlight-R4-Cherry-MX-Keycap-/331286962854

>>57723231
Probably the same as the pok3r: Decent.

Metal case and pbt caps, unfortunately spray painted and laser etched, so not really desirable. Going out on a limb, I'd assume that it's not fully programmable either.

>>57723283
Cherry clears.
Or cherry browns, but like I said, those suck ass.

Though you probably won't find a budget board with cherry clears.

>>57723298
>ebay, aliexpress, just about anywhere
>abs
sadfrog.tiff

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>>57723312
It's the escape key, sure it gets used fairly often, but you're hardly going to use it enough for it to develop shine anytime soon.

You could also get one of these fuckers. I feel like I should pick up the angel for my HHKB, but then again, I'll be doing some extensive modding on that anyway, so I'm not sure about getting keycaps for it yet.

>>57723005
What are good keycaps for topre switches? I got a barebones version.

>bullshit
I still paid out the ass for it, just $140 instead of $300

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>>57723366
http://www.geekkeys.com/holyoops-eva-aluminum-keycap/

aaaaand, the link

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>>57723377
Novatouch uses mx caps

>>57723312
There's a zinc Nerv cap around

>>57723366
>>57723395

Wow, now that's what I'm talking about. Thank you!

>>57723409
I know it uses mx keycaps but what are best for Topres

abs, pbt, ultra thicc doubleshot?

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>>57723418
Cheers.

Post some pictures once you got it.

>>57723199
one of the sources for this kind of confusion is that gateron once made a tactile clear switch that was similar to the zealios in the parent post

however, most of the time people refer to the 35g linear switch when they talk about gateron clears

>>57723437
Topre doesn't have much choice in caps

Also prepare to lube your novatouch, I had one for a week and it rattled like a mofo
Also the case gets greasy easily

Still better than cherry though

>>57723453
>chocolate on keyboard
fucking disgusting

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>>57723480

>>57723377
it probably doesn't matter too much, as long as it's not shitty thin abs. just find something that you like

If reds are shit, how can gat clears be good?

>>57722884
Jesus. as if being a trip fag who uploads uncompressed images didn't make you an annoying cunt already. please kill yourself.

>>57723462
you get cap choice if you get a cherry stem

>>57723462
>lubing a keyboard
dude
what

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>>57723516
>If reds are shit
they aren't, though gateron reds are still preferable to cherry reds.

>>57723529
(you)

>>57723548
>>lubing a keyboard
>dude
>what

OH BOY

>>57723550
not even that anon. muted and reported

>>57723550
So gat clears are lighter gat reds?

>>57723548
You always lube before you stick it in

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>>57722120

U N I C O M P
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>>57723548
welcome to a world of memes

>>57723578
yes, 10g lighter to be exact.

>>57723572
:^(

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>guaranteed_replies.jpg

>>57723595
Pictured: The Happy Hacking Keyboard owner cannot acquire a real girl and must settle for a cold, unfeeling mannequin.

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>>57723614
>cannot acquire a real girl
but anon I'm a fag

>>57723599
details on the board?

>>57723638
Prove it, post your dick.

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>>57723661
Alright, but I'll need your help with that ;^}

anyone ever try greetech browns? i hear they are fantastic, even better than gateron browns

>>57723776
das keyboards use greetech
honestly cherry clones should be pretty much the same as cherry switches

>>57723418
There is a second style
http://www.geekkeys.com/holyoops-eva-aluminum-keycap-newest-version/

>>57723857
what makes you say that? its a different spring (greetech is heavier) and supposedly the bump on the slider is both bigger and smoother

>>57723857
definitely isn't true.

i have the mk84 from mechanicalkeyboards with greetech brown switches, and they are noticeably scratchier/squeakier than any other brown switches i've used (i've tried a few cherry browns and kailh browns).

i actually have never noticed any scratchiness in cherry switches (i guess i'm less sensitive than other people), but the greetechs are absolutely awful. i can hear random scraping/squeaking when just typing normally. it isn't restricted to a few problem keys either as i can just hit any key a few times and it will eventually squeak at some point.

>>57723999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbFTOadnnJo

>>57722665
They're linear, and very light. While cherry clears are tactile and heavy. Cherry clears actuation is around 55g & bottom out is around 100g.

>>57722219
did you 3D print that? You know Clack Factory uses silicone molds for their cheap artisan keycaps

>>57723462
how did the Novatouch feel anon?
Some people tell me theyre more like Cherry reds than actual Topres

>>57722435
use the coupon code Kaihua25 to get 45% off on any of these keyboards:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=359

>>57724042
hmm the squeaking in that video is definitely pretty noticeably. i haven't heard squeaking like that in any of the boards with cherry switches that i have tried/owned.

not really relevant, but i have purchased and returned two different kbp boards in the past (v80 with clears, v60 with matias quiet click) for chattering issues so i'm somewhat biased against kbp boards in general.

that said, i was mostly responding to the "clones should be pretty much the same as cherry switches" statement, as in my experience the cheaper clones are definitely worse.

is there a cherry mx clear clone i could try for comparison? i've only tried clones for reds, browns, and blacks.

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>>57724269
Yeah, I'll have to experiment some more, but getting tolerances down with the stem seems like it'll be a pain.

I'll probably just end up using molds too, though the 3D printer could come in handy for making the front part of the molds when first casting them.

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>>57722219

Please make 3d model of cosmonaut next.

k.thnx

>>57724312
>is there a cherry mx clear clone i could try for comparison?
There are zealios, and the originative MOD switches. Although, the latter don't seem to be up for sale right now.

>>57723164
Tomoko on amazon is $33

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Is it possible to increase the acutation force of a switch?

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another day without the Viper V2 gb is another shitty day

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>>57724362
Either give me the .stl files for that, or link me some good tutorials on 3D modeling. I know my way around basic shit in autocad, but I have no experience with 3D modeling shit like that.

>>57724383
stronger springs

>>57724402

It is from a mold, no files exist for it.

Super limited runs too.

>>57724383
change the springs or buy a different switch

>>57724380
Thank you. Think that replacement Cherry keycaps will work on it? Since they're knockoff cherrys

>>57724441
yes they will work

>>57724383
just bay a heavier spring:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=339

and replace it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtyQ0M0yE2k

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>>57724420
Yeah, I gussed that much.

Gib tutorials. I'll make you once I'm not a basic ass noob at 3D modeling.

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>>57724362
If you can give me some dimensions I might be able to come up with something

>>57724498
most keyboards cant have the tops removed without desoldering

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Guys i need your help, this piece of my keyboard broke in an accident do you know how it's called and where i might find a replacement? If it's not clear with the image it's the piece that conects the keyboard pcb to the mini usb

>>57724632
Just solder whatever cables you ripped back on

>>57724656
the piece is fucked, the solder wont stick to the circuit cuz it got ripped off along with the cable

>>57724692
What else is on that PCB? Don't quote me on this, but it looks like you could just connect the usb port directly to the keyboard pcb

>>57724692
guess youre buying a new keyboard, be more gentle with your possessions next time

>>57724383
yes just swap out the spring

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>>57724715
Sorry for the shitty camera this is what it has on it

>>57724724
Sorry for making a mistake Mr perfect. Worst case i get a diy kit and put these switches and keycaps on it

>>57724825
buy a new keyboard ;^)

>>57724339
What machine is that?

>>57724825
Find out which component there connects to those fucked solder pads and see if you can run a wire drom the component to the keyboard pcb.

If that doesn't work, do as you said and get a DIY kit. Good luck mate

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>>57724977
A CNC kit from aliexpress that I built some time ago

Anyone like doubleshot abs

>>57725068
people around these parts like GMK

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>>57723599
d-doushio

>>57725156
that fucking caps lock

>>57725017
How much was it?

>>57725195
about 3,50

Smh desu senpai cuck

>>57725195
220 bucks or so

Hit me up in the next thread and I'll find you the link if you're interested

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Anyone know how the custom esc/super keys were done here and how I can order some/make my own?

>>57725303
get a keycap, dye it, then use a laser to remove the dye.

>>57725329
any example of a cheap-ish laser that can do something like that?

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What am I in for?

>>57725353
just buy like a $2 laser pointer from some dodgy chinese guy in an alley lmao

thinking about getting the Steelseries mechanical keyboard

thoughts?

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What do you guys do with your old keyboards?

>>57725370
why did you buy 2 boards also brown is shit

>>57725397
they go into the trash where they belong just like you

>>57725420
So that I can try both of them out and see which one I like better.

>brown is shit
I'll probably like it.

>>57725353
machines like that are expensive. The best you can do is laser engraving
http://www.gearbest.com/3d-printers-3d-printer-kits/pp_343187.html?currency=USD&lkid=10133889&gclid=CJ_Qz4OqytACFYpWDQodjxYOeQ

>>57725370

I've had the red, it was pleasant. My second board. First was a daskeyboard with blues. Gave both to a friend, have a masterkey pro s with doubleshot pbt transparent keycaps

>>57725223
>>57725246
>>57725382
>>57725437
absolute mad lad

>>57725397
put them in a drawer and dont think about them

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>>57725397
depends. if it's broken right into the trash. otherwise kept as a reserve.

>>57725420

I mafe the mistake of buying a browns board one.

I think I am going to have to replace all the switches. It is a Filco Convertible 2, so I can't just toss it.

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>>57725397
I just leave them around

>>57725468
I didn't understand a thing you said mate.

>>57725458
Disappointing, if I could buy one for ~$300 I'd get one to try out making some custom keys

>>57725506
thats some shit keyboards

>>57725510

The second mechanical keyboard I had was a Rosewill manufactured keyboard with Cherry Reds. The first mechanical keyboard I had was a daskeyboard with Cherry Blues. I gave both of these keyboards to a friend. I now I have a Masterkey Pro S with doubleshot PBT transparent keycaps.

That help, roofucker?

>>57725303
so you can get these done at wasdkeyboards but the result will be a shitty ABS keycap that will wear down after heavy use. maxkeyboards is the exact same thing, but they can do backlit keys as well. it's the easiest way to get custom keys, and likely the cheapest at $50

there's a company called varmilo that can do custom pbt dye-subbing which would be better than the wasdkeyboards stuff, but you actually have to email them for an inquiry, so i don't know anything about the price or process and what they can do

and there's a guy on reddit (yes yes i know, don't jump on me) that just tested out some custom pbt dyesubbing, and he says he will likely do custom orders in the future. so you can check that out

and i also know there's this one guy on etsy that does custom pbt stuff as well but it's very expensive

>>57725538
I also have model Ms, Cherrys and Duckys, but those are kept in good condition

>>57725546
thanks I saw wasdkeyboards stuff before, I'll check out varmilo though and any chance of a link to the guy on etsy?

Do I need another shitty keyboard?

>>57725591
No, get a good one instead.

>>57725591
Sure, everyone could use another Topre board.

>>57725583
decentkeyboards is his name

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Hey guys where can I buy japanese keycaps for my corsair k90?

>>57725542
Much better, you have to admit the first post you made wasn't written properly. It's okay though, doesn't matter.

How did you like the Rosewill? People seem to like it quite a bit. I hope I have no issues with it.

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>>57725633
>corsair
that's the problem. Corsair uses a non standard layout (pic realted) so finding replacement keycaps is going to be really hard and requires you to get creative.

Now there are a few options like originative modern beige and EnjoyPBT

>>57725633
https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige

>>57725638

I felt that it was fine - I had no complaints. I only chose to part with it as my desk is somewhat small. I gained more space for my mouse to travel by switching to a tenkeyless board.

>>57725694
Yea it does look quite large, although space isn't really an issue for me at the moment.

How was the quality of this thing?

>>57725688
god dam that last black row is ugly af

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>>57725720
thats corsair for ya

>>57725709

Excellent. Constructed well, though the soft touch materials weren't my favorite. The keycaps wore as expected, because they are ABS. However, this is the case with all ABS keycaps. Switch them to PBT and you'll really enjoy it.

>>57725757
>soft touch materials
Where were these? And shit I didn't know that these used ABS, that is a negative for sure.

>Switch them to PBT and you'll really enjoy it
Might as well get a new keyboard when the keys wear out. How long does it usually take?

>>57723911

god damn these are dope

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>>57725792
not him, but the soft touch materials were on the extra keycaps that you get. You can just switch them out easily
Also the vast majority of keyboards use ABS plastics, so buying a new keyboard just because the keycaps get a yucky shine (pic related) is dumb thing to do. PBT keycap sets cost around 35-45 bucks, with some on massdrop going bellow 30 like: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-backlit-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set

The only keyboards that I know off that come with PBT keycaps by default are high end Ducky and some of the fruity 60% keyboards. Everyone uses ABS plastics

>>57725792
well they don't normally "wear out" to the point that you can't use them anymore; they just get shiny after use and people don't like that since it looks and feels kind of gross.

as far as how long that takes, well i guess it's however long you can stand the shiny-ness. probably between a few months and a year depending on how and how much you use a keyboard

>>57725447
>>57725420
>>57725483
what's wrong with browns? are reds better?

>>57725905
browns are reds with a grain of sand superglued to the stem

>>57722197
The bottom row is non standard. Getting custom caps will be harder.

is this a meme
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L8EKTHK/

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>>57725942
>Firstblood Geek

does that answer your question?

>>57725953
ok thanks

>>57725942
>60%
>Removable mini USB
>$56.99
Just get new caps and that's actually a nice board

>>57725942
>>57725967
it's not a 60% so the layout makes it kind of meh to find new caps for though

>>57725914
I kind of liked them on a key tester, does it feel different to type on them? I got reds and blues now

>>57724312
Wait, V80 with clears also chatters? I thought it was mostly an issue with matias switches.

>>57725967
um im actually new to mechanical keyboard, im coming from laptop keyboards

can you explain how i do that? like i buy new caps and then replace them or something? any recommendations on what caps?

>>57725992
oh?

>>57723647
What keycaps are these? I need some qt topre keys.

>>57725992
true

>>57726010
You just pull the caps off and put new ones on. GMK is one of the better brands out there.

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>>57726022
that guy just bought a high profile realforce and switched out the keycaps

>>57725885
That looks fucking disgusting, and I wouldn't doubt that it feels bad as well.
I have a Cooler Master Devastator keyboard and I have had it for about a year without it wearing out.

Do you think they will last me a year or so without having to be replaced?
Since it uses standard keys, if I buy a set will it have all the keys I need for my keyboard?

>>57725890
Yea I know, but I hate that look. Is it literally gonna get shiny within a month of use?

>>57725905
>>57725914
Browns are good. They just aren't as loud as the another keys or have as much feedback, they are in between. Probably the switch I am gonna stay with.
They do not feel like they have dirt or sand in them, that is a huge stretch.

>>57725942
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L8EKRE0/?th=1

Get this one instead, it's cheaper and the colors aren't as fucking annoying.

>>57723125
Which keyboard is that?

>>57726090
most likely a Ducky Shine 4

>>57726046
Where do I buy one of these with the Jap caps?

>>57724534

No clue on the dimensions. It is about the size of a normal DSA cap, but it stands out a little bit.

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>>57726109
from japan. They cost around $100 more tho with shipping and import fees

>>57726010
yes you can buy new caps, but the ajazz keyboard has some differently placed keys than normal, so not all sets will fit that keyboard. just a forewarning

>>57726060
i don't think it will look as disgusting as in the picture within only a month, but it might be a little shiny. i'll admit i don't know exactly how long because i haven't had those kinds of keys in a long time.

we are talking about the rosewill, right? a normal set of keys should cover it, since it's standard
a set of PBT keys from ducky or vortex shouldn't be too expensive

>>57726159
Would these work properly?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-backlit-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set

Like would every key replace every key on the Rosewill keyboard?

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>>57726198
yes, Rosewill uses a standard layout so this shouldn't be a problem. Any standard keycap set will fit

>>57726157
Yikes

>>57726286
big deal the keyboard was already $300 to begin with. whats an extra 100 really

>>57726228
Oh shit do you have the same keyboard?

>>57726307
So do they work just fine? I found a set of Jap keycaps for the real force that are only $100 on eBay , SA0100-kt1. Would they work on my HHKB?

>>57725689
>says $39 in keycaps directory
>actually $95
damn
those jap red and blacks look gr8 too

>>57726449
$39 is the price for the blanks. Obviously the dye-subbed ones are more expensive.

>>57726449
should have preordered them bud

>>57726449

XDA Milestone has a very similar japanese set.

I ordered IMSTO but it never came, so I decided to try XDA.

>>57726446
you'll have to check the layouts. JIS is different from ANSI and the hhkb has a non-standard layout anyway. though if they have the same profile i'm sure you could just put the alphas on and leave the modifiers alone

#RubberDomesMatter

It's fucking time we stop the keyism. We need to stop the violence we're perpetrating in the name of promoting mechanical-serving interests and give rubber domes a FAIR CHANCE at the American Dream.

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>>57726823
except Topres are both rubber domes and mechanical

>>57726879
BEING OF MIXED-KEY DESCENT SHOULD NOT BE A FACTOR. #TOPREMATTERSTOO

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>>57726823
Buckling springs on the model M are actually actuating using membranes, but shh... don't tell this general that

>>57726823
#mechanicalprivilege

>>57726879

They're capacitively sensed and have no contact mechanism whatsoever. They're the exact opposite of mechanical.

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good night /mkg/

should I get a pok3r with clears or nature whites?

My only experience with mechanical keyboards so far is my RK-9000 with blues.

ordered a qisan 68-key with brown switches for work
If I like it I believe I will order the blue switch version for home

thoughts on qisan as a brand?

>>57727208
depends. Do you like linear switches that offer now tactile feedback, then get the whites. Or do you hate the clicky sound of your blues, but still want some tactile feedback that isn't just dirt stick in some reds, then get clears

>>57727245
>now
no*

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>>57727215
I hate to break it to you, but qisan has a floating key design like razer stealth, so its much louder then other keyboards. Also the keycaps are just as thin so don't expect your co-workers to appreciate your presence

>>57727292
Interesting
I have a bunch of extra keycaps lying arond, maybe I'll try switching em out if they're too clicky

>>57722201
>reddit the switch

Only 80g tactile and clicky switches are worthwhile

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ducky shine 3 TKL cherry mx blue switches w/ 0rings and PBT caps

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>>57722492
>Wasting space on a fuckhueg enter key
>Crippling the size of the left shift to make room for a key that's meant to be near the enter.

>>57727245
whites are tactile and clicky but they are inconsistent. Some click more than others.

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>>57723230
>The girl has a mechanical body. However she is still an adolescent child

>>57727399
so membrane buckling springs, cherry greens + whites, and blue alps are the only worthwhile switches

>>57727461
>whites are tactile and clicky but they are inconsistent
not nature whites, those are linear.
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_RGB_Nature_White

you are thinking of milk whites:

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_White

>>57724393
Nice pen. What is it?

hey quick question, i kinda want a mechanical keyboard, but i'd like something that makes a nice clicky feeling without noise.

i know browns suck, not enough feedback.

so where can i get an MX tactile grey keyboard?

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>>57727399
Feelios are offered with 78g springs, close enough.

>mfw waiting on 67g & 78g feelios, aristotles, MOD-M and MOD-H switches
>only planning on building one ergodox

>>57727574
I don't know of any board that comes with tactile greys as stock. You can get the switches themselves from mechanicalkeyboards.com then just build whatever board you want with them.

Greys are heavy as fuck though, you sure you want a ~120g bottom out?

>>57727574
There is only one switch that fits your description. It is called matias quiet click. They are more tactile then anything cherry has to offer, and are even quieter then rubber domes. You can find them here if you are in the US:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=32&size=&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

there are still some black Friday coupons so you can check those out and get a small discount.

And here if you are in Europe:
http://www.keyboardco.com/category.asp?sr=&path=mechanical+keyboards&swi=Matias+Quiet+Click&ss=de&rtv=100

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>>57727574
Ducky sells some, but good like finding some in stock.

>>57727557
it's a wahl eversharp tuplic clip pen from the 20s

>>57727726
Bloody beautiful. Pictures of guts?

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>>57727618
yeah, i want greys because i always press as hard as i can anyway, so it'll stop me bottoming out. really i like my rubber dome keyboard, but y'know this meme looks nice.

>>57727661
anything for canada?
that looks pretty cool, but might be a bit too heavy even. plus caps'll be a bitch to find for non-cherry/topre/whatever switches


although, if i'll be DIY-ing something, would there be any way to fit mechanical switches in an old keyboard? i've been using the same one since 2003 and it's super nice. pic related.

>>57727781
>would there be any way to fit mechanical switches in an old keyboard?
Not in a rubber dome board like that.

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>>57727750
?

>>57727781
you are better of getting a used steel series 6gv2 with browns, then replacing the switches with greys if you want that specific layout.

>>57727810
Nib looks a little worse for wear. Did you do your own restore job on it?

>>57727797
well that sucks.

>>57727818
yeah but that keyboard's not beige and has no wrist wrest thing.

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>>57727823
I think it cleaned up nicely since then. Those were pics from right when I found it.

I did restore it, yeah.

I bought a keyboard.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1605

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60% keyboard fags. How would you program pic related for use with a modern OS? Thinking of having caps lock be control and right shift being fn toggle.

Is there any switch that is as smooth as a topre? I tried a friends blues and the "2-step" actuaction just felt too weird, same with browns at a walmart.

>>57728239
Hall effect.

>>57728239
Membrane

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>>57726879
>rubber dome but with mechanical switch on top
doesnt that just make it a rubber dome

>>57728407
regular rubber domes don't have the feeling of oneness with cup rubber

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If memechanical keyboards aren't a waste of money and indeed do boost productivity, why haven't I heard about any one of you fuckers on the media known as an accomplished computer programming hacker whom advocates for these keyboards and commends their immense benefits on his success?

really makes you think.

>>57726879
>mfw i don't eve ngive a shit if they're rubber dome or trumech
topres are best mother fucking switches. go home poorfags

>>57728627
It's not about improving productivity. It's about enjoying the experience of typing. Why do you think people still use fountain pens or shave with straight razors? It's a better experience but it doesn't magically make you more productive.

>>57726007
no idea. both the boards i received had chattering on multiple keys (the v80 clears was a lot worse).

i didn't ask for a replacement so i could've just been extremely unlucky with the v80. from a few google searches it seems like v60 is the one with chattering issues in general (i don't think it's limited to a specific switch).

>>57728648
>straight razors
shit analogy senpai, since nothing comes close for a clean shave.

>>57728689
DE razors come pretty close, and are much easier to use.

I'm so sorry /mkg/

I wasn't planning to go down this route, believe me, but $70 Canadian for a refurbed Razer Blackwidow Ultimate was legitimately the most practical option for me this Black Friday.

Sure I would have liked to drop $120 on that Ducky Shine over on DirectCanada, but that just wasn't in the cards. And believe me, I checked my other options. The Razer was the best fit for me.

Someday I will have a really cool mech and can get on your level, but it just wasn't feasible right now and I just can't stand this $15 Logitech POS anymore.

>>57728239

Greens are just stiffer blues, but feel so much better. Give those a try if you want something clicky.

If you just want something smooth, look at zealios.

>>57728647

>poorfags

But the best topre board is only $200 (hhkb pro 2). That is pretty much entry level cost when it comes to customs.

My korean custom cost closer to $400 with caps and everything, and it was a budget build.

>>57728689

Safety razors are just as good and dirt cheap along with easy to use.

>>57728239

Gateron linears. If you're looking for smooth keys foremost you don't want anything clicky or tactile.

>>57728968

Well on the bright side when you're ready to get rid of it you can clean it up and probably sell it to some gaymurr for around what you paid for it.

>>57726007

It's a KBP thing, not a switch thing. Something about their board design or firmware makes them shit at switch debouncing.

>>57729139

They probably use cheap switches without crosspoint.

>>57729149

Yeah, they should have gone with Gateron instead of Cherry.

>>57728968
mechanical is mechanical. it will still be a vast upgrade over some shitty rubber dome. for $70 canadabucks that's not terrible, sounds like you weighed your options and made an informed purchase to me. i hope you enjoy your blackwidow regardless of what anyone around here says.

>>57729164

Cherry has crosspoint though.

>>57729212

They also chatter on KBP boards so clearly that can't actually be true.

>>57729191

There were a couple other candidates in the race. On Black Friday Newegg had an Azio MGK-1 RGB on for 100 Canabucks. And a while back I was looking at paying $50 for a Chinese seven color board off of Aliexpress.

Ultimately I'm glad I passed on both. I don't really need the rainbow crap (my favorite color is green, conveniently, and it's the only color I would have used on an RGB board) and like the other anon said it would be an easy sell if I ever want to upgrade. This keyboard typically sells for $140 Canadian so I reckon I'd get my money back pretty easily.

I love keyboards

>>57729314
me too anon

so whats the difference in an US keyboard? despite the fact that we have a lot of extra keys on my language i always type in english anyway

is there going to be anything different? i mean obviously the special keys are going to be elsewhere but i use a linux server on a daily basis where the character coding is english as well so im familiar with the mapping

>>57729231

Must be a firmware issue then. Wrong debounce time or something.

>>57729338
Not heaps. It'll be easier to find keycaps for an American board over anything else.

>>57728627
its a hobby and feels good desu
posted from my $250 Topre keyboard

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thoughts?

>>57729402
Not mechanical
gaymer gear
extra shit that no-one needs

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>>57729411
This ones mechanical, now what do you think

>>57729338
Depends on the language. Non 3rd world language like Japanese you just have some modifiers out of place I believe.

3rd world Muslim shitholes like Europe you got some full retard shit.

>>57729463
Still pretty trash to be honest. It's another $100 piece of shit that is only marginally better than the keyboard I'm already using plus it clutters up my desk.

>>57729468
im from hungary but im using ENG language settings anyway

nobody speaks muslim here anon, we have fences

if they get through we beat them to death

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Hey guys, what is your opinion on the Razer Blackwidow chroma?

Right now there is a pretty good Cyber Monday deal going on (35% off) and I am in need of a new good keyboard.

Does anyone have any experience with it? Anyone know the difference between the stealth and clicky ones?

Thanks

>>57729551
Do not buy anything razer or corsair period

>>57729468

Japan jas a completely unique bottom row and a special number row too.

Not to mention that terrible iso enter.

>>57729554
What about this? >>57722197
I don't know whether to get it, currently using a thin membrane keyboard from a wireless mouse/keyboard convo

>>57729554
But I have been using a Razer Arctosa keyboard for the past 5 years or so and I enjoy it, it has a great hand rest and has done me well for all these years.

>>57729650
>Hand rest
Good goy
Kill your wrists

Enjoy your tendinitis

>>57729682
why are clear switches $16 more than blue switches?

>>57729733
Demand and offer

Every other pleb buys blue

so can i buy keycaps for tomoko keyboards or its way too cheap to have keycaps for it?

any other suggestions for low cost good mechanical keyboards?

>>57729775
If you do not bother reading the wiki

Why would we bother reading your post?

>>57729794
kil yourself elitist prick

>>57729775
just get the tomoko its gud
also if you live in the us mechanicalkeyboards.com is having a sale

>>57722492
>ISOFags will actually agree with this

good luck programming on ISO dumbfuck

>>57729840
no i dont live in the US

tomoko is sold on the UK amazon too and would only charge 7 pounds for shipping
not sure if i should buy it, if its broken when it arrives then its ogre

>>57729463
basically half an ergonomic keyboard with a thumbstick stuck on the side

why

>>57729876
doesn't amazon do full refunds?

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>>57729898

>not just waiting for the king's assembly

>>57729900
well there was an option for warranty so i assumed they don't

>>57729876
its probably not going to be broken I mean even the cheepo keyboards work fine for like years

>>57729915
I don't understand

what are those things in the middle?
how do you use it?
is this a rear view and the plates on top are where you're supposed to put your wrists?

>>57729915
>Needless piles of shit styling
Where the fuck does your hand go?

>>57729935
You're looking at it backwards

>>57729915
its going to be shit way too much tilt on the end

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>>57729915
im sorry but this shit just looks hilarious in use

>>57729986
top kek

>>57729915
>$650

Tempted by a matias quiet click now. Only the vortex v60/80 looks decent but no pbt keycaps for alps.

quick guys do I buy mx blues or clears?

>>57730413
Clears, they're more tactile than blues.

>>57730429
shit their $14 more

>>57730444
because they're better

>>57730455
k ill get it famo shit better not be a meme

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>>57730429
I fucking regret it already

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>want keyboard with tactile bump
>tomoko really, really cheap
>probably too loud for office work
>don't know if o-rings will make any difference
>no budget keyboards with clears

Send help.

>>57729986
>looks like you're commanding a spaceship
>just shitposting as usual

>>57730544
Yea blues are loud af
Buy reds

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>>57730633
I got reds but it feels weird without the bump, thus my conundrum. You know of any cheap keyboards with clears?

Also, what's the gateron/kailh equivalent of cherry clears?

>>57730657
zealios are the equivalent to clears from gateron.

>>57730669
those seem to be even scarcer.

>>57730544
>work in Office
>No budget for a tool you use Daily to earn your money

Whiskey tango foxtrot

>>57730861
I have several other expenditures, plus I'm europoor. When I find my end game I'll probably sell most cheap keyboards and buy a really good one for general use. The hobby is too expensive for me, I just want a comfy keyboard.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Water-Resistant-VicTop-Mechanical-Waterproof-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01DBYNVSY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480328036&sr=8-1&keywords=tomoko+mechanical+keyboard

damn why is it not blank, fug

>>57730991
>blank

As in, white keys?..

>>57731060
i meant no text on the keycaps as in blank

>>57729081
are they? my straight razor is blunt and a the shit to sharpen it is expensive, that and its vintage and worth a lot so i dont really want to ruin it.

been using an electric shaver and its fucking awful