Are chinese smart phones good enough? does anyone on /g/ have

You're just asking for trouble. Exploding batteries, breaking screens...
Just save, buy an iPhone7 and move on. Really, oinstead of buyuing two chinese phones per year, some operators allows you to RENT it, which is cheaper.

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>>57694059
were there always apple shills in /g/ like this? or is it the influx of redditors bringing with them apple normies?
might also be counter-contrarians

>>57690966
I still have the Lenovo K3 note and it's comfy AF.

>>57690966
A xiaomi redmi 3s or the new redmi 4 is cheap as shit, reliable as a tank and has plenty power to do everything you need. Don't be a cuck like >>57694059

Hardware is great although the UI is shit, and there's chink spyware.

>>57690966
look for one you can put CM on and for mtk67xx at least

Only a handful of chink phones support ATT 4g LTE. Wish more did.

>>57690966
Using an oukitel k6000 pro here.
It's nice for the price, but nothing fantastic. Usually battery lasts me 3 days with almost 4 hours SoT a day.

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Idiot. If you're having physical issues with brand phones, do you suddenly expect 100 Dollar phones to just work?

Really, you're fucking daft mate.

Get a Huawei or Honor phone and call it a day. Also fuck off to the /spg/ next time you have a question regarding shopping advice.

>>57694321
Exactly great power to price ratio and trust its pretty smooth I am using redmeme note 3 with cm. The stock UI was smooth but didn't wanna take any chances so got rid of it

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>>57694059
>Renting a phone
Just...

Any recommendations on a chinkphone for around 100 or so? If so, how would I go about buying it? Amazon's only got but so many phones listed.

>>57690966
They're great as long as they have official CM support. Choose a modem that does and you won't have problems. Here's what's wrong with their stock ROMs:
https://www.thijsbroenink.com/2016/09/xiaomis-analytics-app-reverse-engineered/
http://thehackernews.com/2016/11/hacking-android-smartphone.html?m=1

>>57694635
This should work on most US carriers.

http://s.aliexpress.com/ErYjyyyI

>>57694658
A model*

>>57694658
It's not like google, qualcomm, and anyone else involved in manufacturing your phone isn't already harvesting your data, fuck off.

>>57694663
Awesome, thanks for the help :D

>>57694678
Check willmyphonework dot net though for your carrier.

LeEco is one of the few brands that'll work, and probably the only one close to your asking price.

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>>57690966
>Are chinese smart phones good enough?
Any of your past three phones made elsewhere?

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>>57694671
And what does that mean? You shouldn't try to prevent them from doing so or minimize data they're collecting, even though there's an option to do so? You should just give in and wait for 1984. to become literally true?

>>57694749
You're right, just don't use any communication devices other than your god given ability to speak and gesture.
Just don't connect to the internet at all.

You want to wear a lead helmet while you're at it?

>>57694770
>Gof
I should've stopped reading after that... You've never heard of Snowden, have you? The activities of governments and the NSA isn't up to speculation and paranoia at this point, because we know exactly what they're doing thanks to Snowden. And the best you can do defend increased government surveillance is to spout tin foil hat memes...

>>57694843
God*
Do to defend*

>>57694843
Aren't up to*

>>57694843
>>57694863
>>57694956

>implying the NSA = China

You're just grasping at straws now. Come back when you're sane enough to form a coherent argument.

>>57694982
NSA = China. What? Where did I say that? I've provided links here: >>57694658 and it's clear that Chinese manufacturers are inserting software backdoors. Or it should've been clear, if you actually bothered to read the articles I've posted. But I guess it was just too convenient to put words in my mouth and not read anything I've posted.

>>57695039
Into*

>>57690966
xiaomi redmi note 3
fucking sweet as phone
v4 is out now

They have better price/quality.
But, if you're dumb, don't buy them.

You must know how to read guides so that you can change ROMs and work with different tools.

>>57695147
Not always.

I've tried oukitel, xiaomi, and letv(leeco) and they've all worked great with stock rom.

>>57695160
>Stock ROM on a Chinese phone
>Great
Please refer to:
>>57694658

>>57695206
If you care so much about the botnet, why do you have an internet connection?

You can't even justify your own paranoia enough to act on it, but you still flood this board with those links enough to be considered spam. What's the point of pretending to care?

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>>57695206
Oukitel k6000 pro here, yeah it works and it's generally bug free.

I'm impressed by the quality of the software, considering how budget tier this phone is.

>>57695231
You're still ignoring my arguments?
>>57695039
>>57694843
>>57694749
>>57694658

got a xiaomi mi5, very good stuff, smooth as butter

>>57695263
When I said stock I meant - MIUI ROMs. How's the camera your phone?

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>>57695358
Great for daylight, sucks shit for night/low light shots.

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>>57695477
Not a lot of digital noise. I expected a far worse result. Given that the aperture is 2.2, it's not a bad photo overall.

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>>57695543
It's pretty good for a phone that costs so little, but I wish it took better night shots.

The rear camera sensor is an ov13850 if you want to look it up.

Chinese company installed secret backdoor on hundreds of thousands of phones
http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/11/chinese-company-installed-secret-backdoor-on-hundreds-of-thousands-of-phones/

"These devices actively transmitted user and device information including the full-body of text messages, contact lists, call history with full telephone numbers, unique device identifiers [...] The firmware also collected and transmitted information about the use of applications installed on the monitored device, bypassed the Android permission model, executed remote commands with escalated (system) privileges, and was able to remotely reprogram the devices"

Second Chinese Firm in a Week Found Hiding Backdoor in Firmware of Android Devices
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/second-chinese-firm-in-a-week-found-hiding-backdoor-in-firmware-of-android-devices/

"According to Anubis, multiple smartphones models from BLU Products are the most affected [...] Other vendors such as Infinix Mobility, DOOGEE, LEAGOO, IKU Mobile, Beeline, and XOLO, are also affected."

It is simple, guys: do not trust the chinks, do not trust their phones.

>>57694059
>exploding batteries
Sorry, I thought we were talking about Samsung.

>>57695809
Nice government sponsored hit pieces there.

>>57695809
>>57694658
How much is Samsung paying you?
There's no way anyone would be this autistic for free

I have the cheapest huawei that I could buy. It has way too little disc space, can not be easily rooted (I would not know how and I am not exactly a noob) and the mini SD card suddenly is not recognised without a reboot. It is my first 'smart phone' and I will likely spend more money the next time.

Samsung destroying iphone on Nougat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xBkDTYT6QI

>>57696137
A hundred dollars can land you a decent chinkphone though.
The cheaper ones tend to start at around 50 dollars.

>>57695809
When Apple install backdoors they became "features". Nice double stand there.

>>57695809
>>57694658
>>57694059
How much is Apple or Samsung paying you?

>>57690966
Chinese smartphones are generally on par or definitively better.

Just check which LTE band is compatible with your provider

I bought a Redmi Note 3 SE last month. It's a good phone, can handle anything I've thrown at it. It's screen is OK but not great, camera is poor but I don't care about the camera, doesn't have some pretty basic features now like Quick or Qi charging, no NFC. Does have a fingerprint sensor which is nice. Casing is pretty shit too I guess.

For the £150 I spent it's incredible. I could've spent £800 or whatever on the Pixel XL but this made more sense to me.

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>>57696219
Do you not understand the concept of privacy as a human need or are you deliberately ignoring arguments and making not a true Scotsman fallacies?
I guess I'm giving you too much credit for assuming you know what logical fallacies are. You're just spouting memes and baiting.

>>57696358
Why does this matter?

And if it matters so much to you, why are you still online?

>>57696370
Back to ignoring arguements again?
>>57694749
>>57695332
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/02/why-is-it-so-hard-to-convince-people-to-care-about-privacy

>>57696430
So you literally have no response to my points and are here to shitpost?

This is why no one takes you seriously.

Name 5 modern, easily accessible to buy smartphones, that aren't "botnet" by the standards of you morons.

Even your fucking HDDs and SSDs have their own firmware. They are capable of getting infected with a virus. They could be spying on you even more easily than a smartphone.

Your narrow minded ignorance is shocking. We live in a digital age where prices drop because our personal information is a new currency.
Deal with it, or unplug yourself from the 21st century.

>>57696430
Not an argument.

>>57696479
I have literally no response? I've made 10 posts with real arguments and you're defending your position on increased governement surveillance by not true Scotsman fallacies (aka attacking imaginary arguments) and now ad hominem attacks. I shouldn't even be responding to you, but I guess there may be some reasonable people that are not just here for the memes.
>Name 5 modern, easily accessible to buy smartphones, that aren't "botnet" by the standards of you morons.
>Even your fucking HDDs and SSDs have their own firmware. They are capable of getting infected with a virus. They could be spying on you even more easily than a smartphone.
You're discussing hypothetical situations. We all know that absolute privacy is impossible and we've also been witnessing a rise of tools by which we can protect our privacy to the maximum possible extent. What's wrong with that? And again, name one good reason to just give in and provide as much data as possible as opposed to providing as little data as possible? I suppose you've heard of CM, Copperhead OS, GNU/Linux distros, Tails, Whonix, etc. And it's not like I haven't made this arguments before. Here's a video that might change your stance on caring about being surveilled:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcSlowAhvUk

>>57696608
Here just for the memes*

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>>57696608
Not an argument. Your merely trying to push your opinion without backing it with factual evidence.

I'm not here to listen to your opinion, if you can't tell me why the chink botnet matters more than the American one or the Google botnet or Apple or any other fucking botnets then fuck off.

You've done nothing to back your argument up, instead resorting to shitposting, attempting to propagate your extremely bias and unwelcome opinion, and fall back on your "scottsman fallacies".

I'm sorry anon, I thought you were smart enough to backup an argument you chose.
I was mistaken.

Ps. Good job glossing over my post and not replying to half of it. Most likely not because you didn't want to, but because you're intellectually incapable of doing so.

Pps. Don't rush so much next time you reply to someone, it only makes you look even dumber.
>>57696629
>>57695070
>>57694956
>>57694863
This is just embarrassing...

>>57696715
Thanks for meme images, ad hominem attacks and not acknowledging why logical fallacies matter and dismissing them as memes. When you actually decide to learn what these are and not ignore tens of posts I've made - we can have a real discussion. Correcting grammar mistakes is emberassing? I don't even know what to say... Let's say I didn't make any real arguments. How would you convince me that I should just give in and decide to embrace government surveillance? I'm interested in your reasoning.

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>>57696786
>government surveillance
You have disregarded my reply in favor of moving your goal posts, and yet you choose to accuse me of ignoring your replies?
Good job anon.
Bravo.

We're done here.

Good night anon.

>>57696867
Thank you for convincing me that I shouldn't care about government surveillance. That ''notice me sennpai'' meme image sure helped your agenda.

I'm surprised /g/ isn't more concerned with privacy. Are the people arguing with the autist just trying to say that chink phones are no worse than apple/samsung in terms of botnet? Does CM make your phone private enough?

>>57696888
>Are the people arguing with the autist just trying to say that chink phones are no worse than apple/samsung in terms of botnet?

Pretty much.

>does cm make your phone private enough
Define "enough".

It's still Android so I'd expect it to still be linked to google, even without play services.

>>57690966
Switched to chinkphones 3 years ago and never looked back. Stick to huawei, XiaoMi, meizu or ZTE and you should be fine.

>>57696931
Going to add to your list.
>oukitel
>lenovo
>Asus
>ZUK

Did I miss any?

>>57696985
LeEco, but they've been kinda stupid by dropping the 3.5mm Jack.

At least they've updated all their lollipop devices to marshmallow and have very competitive pricing though, considering they work on US carriers.

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>>57696883
Is this you?

>>57697070
>Posting meme images and demanding to be taken seriously
Oh, by the way, you still haven't convinced us why is government surveillance good and justified.

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>>57697117
I've been lurking this thread for a while now and I notice you keep moving the goalposts.

No wonder anon left, arguing with you is pointless.

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>>57690966
No-brainer

http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiaomi-Redmi-4-Pro-3GB-32GB-Smartphone---Black-373908.html

>>57697161
I still haven't heard a counter argument. If you don't take me seriously, how about listening to Glenn Greenwald?
https://youtu.be/pcSlowAhvUk

>>57690966
They're durable, my both parents use redmi 1s and redmi note 3g it's been 2 years now they only downside they said is battery starting to degrade and storage running out. Last months they're upgrade to redmi 3 pro and redmi note 3, they surprised when i show them how to use ir to turn on tv switched channel and turn on hvac.

Redmi Note 3 here, I'm on an unofficial build of CyanogenMod for Android 7.1 and it has amazing battery life and pretty much never lags. I've had it for about 4 months now and everything works just as well as it did when I first got it.

>>57690966
no, go for ex flagships if you're a cheap fuck like ne

i bought a ZTE Zmax about 2 years ago.
i have dropped this phone many times.
i never had a case.
ive dropped it multiple times from 6+ feet.
screen never cracked but all four corners of the phone have been chipped.
the last 6ft drop slightly bent the top right edge.
i ended up getting a new phone because the hardbuttons stopped working.
i bought the updated version of the phone, ZTE Zmax Pro.

>>57690966
I don't understand, why would anyone get a Mi5s over the Redmi 4?

>>57697588
Because pretty much better everything but battery life.