http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2016/1 0/alliance-open-media-vi

>bbc

explain this meme to me
what advantages do these newfangled fucks have over good old h264 aac mp4

>>57613423

Just like every other good codec, it languishes in development for a decade then makes zero impact once it releases.

>>57614204

Not being a compression inefficient piece of shit like h264 is a good start.

>>57614282
gimme the data, doc
graphs, comparisons, anything

>>57613423

>AV1
>Ever being used for anything of note

Sorry, not going to happen. This is how all big collaborative formats go.

Delay after delay, AV1 will take until 2019 to even be finalized, then it'll be a slow as fuck CPU rape battery killer until 2022 when it finally gets acceleration for Intel/ARM, by then HEVC will have been the standard for physical and streaming services for years thanks to being the only option for high efficiency compression (especially in 4K) and it will remain the norm as by then every CPU and phone on Earth will be handling it with no problem with H264 today.

>>57613435
Don't BULLy him.

>4chan doesn't support VP9 weebm
Fuckin phoneposters.

>>57614314
Take a look at this faggot and laugh at him

HEVC is DEAD and IRRELEVANT on the Internet because of extremely greedy patent pools killing any adoption of it

>>57613423
Been monitoring this shit for months, why are they so eager and hyped for this and not focusing on HEVC? Is it all about 'muh royalty-free'? I already have hevc video.

>>57614399
that's becaws u r a pirate arr
did u no that businesses also actually pay for windows licences too? crazy i no!

>>57614373
>HEVC is DEAD and IRRELEVANT on the Internet

Other than being the codec for high res streaming on Netflix, the most popular movie streaming site.

>>57614508
Guess who is one of the founding members of Alliance for Open Media, you stupid fucktard

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>>57614296
Here: https://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2015/09/28/vp9-encodingdecoding-performance-vs-hevch-264/
This comparison is over 1 yo now, current difference is even bigger, especially for VP9.

>>57614314
>>57614508
http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/Editorial/Featured-Articles/A-Progress-Report-The-Alliance-for-Open-Media-and-the-AV1-Codec-110383.aspx

>The bottom line is that HEVC playback within the browser is nowhere, and has little visible momentum, which makes VP9 and AV1 the only games in town for browser-based, UHD playback.

Way to fail at life, no wonder you live in your mother's basement

>>57613423
Literally made me a wet fart. Thanks.

Why is everyone so hyped?
Is the BBC a big player?

>>57614204
>explain this meme to me
Sure

>what advantages do these newfangled fucks have over good old h264 aac mp4
Better compression ratios. It's as simple as that.

Although note that both H.264 and AAC are proprietary codecs, so you have to pay royalty fees to use them. And MP4 is just shitty.

HEVC is being pushed to improve compression ratios over AVC (H.264), and AV1 (aka VP10/Daala/Thor) is basically being developed because HEVC's licensing terms suck so hard that it's cheaper for google etc. to develop their own codec than to actually use HEVC on youtube.

>>57614508
You're wrong

>>57614667
They're pretty much the main content producer in the UK, so kinda

As long as this format doesn't take 10 times more time to encode over H.264 and hogs the resources on every device playing it will be good. It's not worth to use HEVC because of that shit.

>>57615032
BBC actually released a new HEVC encoder back in September, meant to be much faster than HEVC encoding used to be
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2016-09-turing-codec

>>57614549
now make a vp9 encoder that doesn't take 70 years to run

>>57614471
>that guy is using HEVC, Must be a pirate
>what is transcoding my own library

>>57615432
>my own library
kek, that you pirated?

>>57614508
Netflix, amazon, and google. All are founding members of the AOMedia group.

Netflix, youtube, twitch, amazon video.
That's a significant chunk of the internet streaming market. You can't pretend that if they decide to adopt AV1, it will have succeeded, even if it doesn't take off anywhere else, they already run enough of the market to make it viable. But since it's a royalty free codec unlike HEVC, more people are likely to use it in the future because fuck paying royalties.

>>57613423
>open media
"cucks"

>>57614282
While being standardized in 2003, h264 is certainly not a inefficient piece of shit. With x264 being the best h264 encoder out there, it still gives x265 a good run for the money, but x265 still wins. (x265 being arguably the best HEVC encoder)

>>57615706
They've fucked themselves with the Royalty scheme however.

The only ones who will be paying that are TV/Movie production studios.
Any online only content will likely be AV1.

>>57615679
>>57615706
Fucking pirates REEEEE

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>>57613423
This is pretty much VP10, Google had started releasing code for their VP10 standard but then stopped when the Alliance for Open Media was formed. They stopped talking about VP10 and just routed it into this up coming AV1 standard. There are versions of ffmpeg which can be compiled to enable VP10, which is now a dead format. To live on in AV1.

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>>57615728
>Only pirate use x264/x265
You know these codecs where not designed or payed for by pirates. They just like them.

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>>57615210
Use the threads option. I plow through shit on my FX-6300 with VP9 and speed=1. Otherwise you will just one thread all day.

>>57615032
They were saying the exact same thing when h264 came out in 2003.

>>57614471
>did u no
>crazy i no
no

>>57614243
It's either this or HEVC, and none of these companies want HEVC and the royalties. Google did VP9 on their own and forced it on everyone via youtube with modest success. Image what all those companies could do together.

>>57614314
kys

>>57614282
H264/AVC is still quite efficient actually. It's obviously not as efficient as HEVC but cutting 300MB down 50% to 150MB is hardly shit these days. The biggest savings is bandwidth not disk space.

>>57615475
kys with your retarded argument

HEVC isn't going anywhere at least for personal use (ie piracy). AV1 needs time to mature and get legit HW decoding adoption which won't happen for like another 5 years.

HEVC already has HW decoding in AMD, intel, and novydia GPUs. Yeah.

>>57616242
>which won't happen for like another 5 years
...Look at the list of member corporations for AOMedia again buddy

Nvida
Intel
Cisco
AMD

I'd say they've got hardware support just fine.

>>57616257
>Cisco
router-accelerated video, cool

>>57616257
>AV1 is going to be developed and perfected overnight
k

>>57616269
The point is they are hardware and were directly involved with the Thor codec as well as Daala from Mozzila.

AOMedia is set to sweep the stage in ~2018

>>57616305
Never said it would be overnight, but you're kidding yourself if you think AMD, Nvidia, and Intel are all working on the project for the past 12 months+ and they haven't planned ANY hardware encode/decode abilities in their future hardware....yeahhh suuuuuure buddy.

They are waiting for the spec to be finalized, then hardware will hit the market 6-12 months later.

>>57616308
So AV1 is DOA like daala then?

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does anyone know what Daiz thinks of this?


>captha = Sortie Hatch

>>57616323
Dalla, Thor, and VP10 ARE AV1.

They aren't DOA, they're being turned into one open source royalty free codec.

>>57616269
Cisco also makes shitty video conferencing software.

>>57616323
Daala has been put aside in favor of AV1. AV1 is its successor and will do everything it does and hopefully more. The bigger expectation with AV1 is that it will have commercial backing.

The next commercially viable video codec might actually be a free and open standard holy shit.

>>57614999
But UK is irrelevant.

>>57616210
lmao, feel free to explain where else you have your large collection of media files that you need to transcode to save space on

>>57613435
>>57614667
>>57614999
>>57615062
>>57616976
The BBC R&D department (at least historically) have been in collaboration with other public European research institutions and broadcasters a large part in developing many technologies that we take for granted.
They practically invented PCM audio, phase correlation standards conversion, the MUSICAM codec, NICAM digital stereo, etc.

>play HEVC encoded shit
>computer melts

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>>57614204
FREEDOM