AMD Zen price info leaked Starting at 200$ http://wccftech.

>>57539062
If they're comparable or better than the i5's like a 2500k or 4690k I think I might actually be interested. We'll see.

Intel btfo

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>>57539062
>all AM4 CPUs multiplier unlocked
This is why I like AMD

>>57539062
>200$
POORFAGS

Let's speculate about summit ridge

The SR7 is the high-end CPU, so that should be the 8 core/16 thread CPU

SR3 is the cheapest CPU at $200. I think this is a 4 core/8 threads CPU, and I think the SR5 will be 6 cores/ 12 threads.

i7 equivalent for $200? If this happens then I think the rumor that Intel is going to enable hyperthreading on their Pentiums might be true. Interesting to see how this will affect the core i3s and above.

6700k 259.99$ 6600k 179.99$.. so can we expect a 200€ zen to perform between those two?

How many cores has the 200$ zen? 4c/8t?

So the four core starts at the same price as a Intel 4 core?

INTEL BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>57539062
What about mobile chips? Would we get 15W quad-core laptops with better than intel integrated graphics soon?

If it's a 4 core processor priced at 200$ can we expect comparable or better st performance than the 6600k?

>>57539880
Zen has better single threaded performance than at least Broadwell-E. If Zen were on par with or better than Skylake then I think AMD would have demonstrated this by now, so no, not as good as the 6600K.

>>57539908
but you can buy a 6600k for less than 200$ :S

>>57539917
Zen has SMT (aka hyperthreading), so I think it would be better to compare it with the 6700k

>>57539963
6700k has ~7% more st performance than 6600k

>>57539880
Zen has lower single thread performance but higher multi thread performance.

>>57540002
that will be only if it has more cores, but the 200$ one should be a 4c/8t

>>57539794
>6600k for $180
more like $300 starting

>>57539742
i7 equivalent for cheaper? you mean xeon?

>>57539978
If you're after just single thread performance then a 6600k would probably be better. Then again, this is the summit ridge range of CPUs we're talking about, which is meant to be the high-end stuff. The APUs/server CPUs etc. come out afterwards.

>>57540010
those four extra threads should improve multi-threaded performace by a bit.

compare the skylake i7 and i5 - the i7 pulls ahead of the i5 by quite a bit in multi-threaded benchmarks, see cinebench multi-core:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/intel-skylake-review-core-i7-6700k-and-core-i5-6600k-review-test-setup-and-cpu-performance-page-3#tr-review-summary

>>57540102
that's what I meant, xeon doesn't have a graphics processor

>>57540087
Microcenter

>>57540148
I don't think it makes sense to judge whether a product is good by comparing it's launch price with a different product's limited sale price.

If you want a 6600k right now then yes the 6600k is better but by the time Zen is out the sale is over.

>>57540127
If i can buy a 6600k for 180 right now and it'll be better than zen for 200 in a few months then i fucked up waiting.

>>57540216
Sorry this one was for
>>57540191

>>57539963
You should compare it to the chip it competes with on price.

>>57540370
The 6600k is on sale for a limited time in the USA. I'm in Europe.

how can they leak the price of something that doesn't exist?

rly maeks u think

>>57539742
There are no 6C/12T variants of Zen.
All CPUs are multiples of 4C/8T.

There may not be any 8C/16T variants with IGP. Due to power constraints, those will most likely be CPU only, and all IGP variants will likely be 4C/8T.

would I have to downgrade from windows 7 to windows 10 if I got a Zen?

My i5-4440 still works fine. Might get an A6 6400k for a nice itx linux box and saving energy.

>>57539472
>AM4 x370
2x16 cf/sli

INTEL BTFO

based amd not jewing out on pci-express lanes

>>57539742
they should call it SR71

Is there a reason to upgrade from i7 2600?

>>57541161
No, you would only lose the power saving features that will be exclusive to windows 10. 7 and 8 will still be supported.

>>57539062
Might get Athlon 950k just to play around with it, if price is correct.

>>57541190
>nice
>linux
lolno

>>57541303
>>>/v/

>>57540216
all signs have been pointing to zen being on the same level of broadwell in single threaded performance.

skylake is only around 5% average better in single threaded performance. so its really not that much of a difference.

if amd will be releasing a 4 core 8 threaded processor for $200 then it completely destroys the 6600k, and even the upcoming kaby lake refresh.

you will essentially be getting a 6700k for ~~$200~~ instead of $350.

>>57541313
>being correct
>told to move to other board
y tho

>>57539062
>APU on the same level as vishera
kek, someone has already OCed one of the APUs to 4.8ghz

>>57541368
the 8 core / 16 thread zen will really put intel into a corner.

intel has been offering MORE COARS for a premium and really priced themselves out of the competition when zen lands.

intel's cheapest six core (6800k) is ~$420~. intel's eight core (6900k) is ~$1000~.

if amd released their eight core zen that matches broadwell-e single threaded performance for ~$450~ its a complete bitch slap in the face and a sucker punch in the nuts simultaneously to intel.

their i5's just lost tremendous value and i3's are the new pentiums. their mainstream i7's (6700) now becomes entry level. their premium eight cores become mainstream. where does intel position their six cores now?

this is all under the notion that zen does match broadwell in ipc of course.

>>57541140
>There are no 6C/12T variants of Zen.
>All CPUs are multiples of 4C/8T.
you haven't heard of binning, have you?

>>57541368
>>57541458

The sole reason is going to release a K i3 is solely to try and stop Zen gaining a foothold.

>>57540148
Something available to less than 10% of Americans given the limited number of locations. This leaves the entire rest of the world, including the majority of Americans, paying the recommended retail price.

>>57541237
No different than the Z chipset mobos.. With Intel it goes basic, mGPU, mGPU + OC. With AMD it's basic, OC, mGPU + OC

>>57541729
Ok, addendum: Z170 is only 20 PCIe lanes.. But even the Titan XP doesn't max out x8

>>57541576
That 4c 8t 512 GCN core part looks nice.. When they hit 1024 cores 1080p gaming will be so damn cheap

>>57541280
Thermals, but I'd hold out as long as possible.. Wait til Zen+ and or til the CPU market settles down

>>57541802
>It doesn't matter that you're not getting more PCIe lanes, this one specific use case doesn't need more than that!
Well that's comforting. I'll keep that in mind when I find myself paying thousands of dollars for a prosumer chip to get another feature intel has deemed unnecessary.

>>57541280
The fact that you're asking pretty much confirms the answer is no

>>57539062
>Starting at 200$
So they're not even going to try and compete with the Celeron/Pentium/i3 or low-end i5?

>>57541935
Even if they could put 1024 shaders in there, it just wouldn't have enough memory bandwidth, even with DDR4, to be as fast as a real card.

They'd have to put HBM2 on the chip, and that would make costs way too high.

>>57541966
What's your use case? Why would anyone need more on a consumer board? Maybe we should complain about AMD not offering 64

The reality is that no one needs more right now or in the near future. AMD's boards aren't going to use PCIe 4 so since they're keeping the socket for a while of course they're going to add more lanes to compensate

>>57542094
Probably won't happen until 7nm

>>57542177
They probably will, but only for mobile stuff.
The extra cost can be justified for binned mobile SKUs.

>>57539062
>200$
but this picture shows about 150$ for highest end A10

What the fuck. All I want is an A4/6/8 chip on part with a celeron with a better igpu that doesn't melt under the least load.

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>>57542343

>>57542343
You have it right now.
Only thing A chips lack is L3 cache.

>>57542343
>that doesn't melt under the least load.
That's never been a problem with any APU ever. If you mean the absurdly high temperatures you see in the speccy threads here, then that's because speccy has no idea how to read AMD temperatures. APUs pretty much always show a reading of 123 Celsius and the FX series shows ridiculously low numbers, usually below room temperature.

Yes, this has been a known problem for years now. No, piriform has no intention of fixing it.

>>57540148
I've driven 500 miles to a micro-center as the executor in a group buy. It's not reasonable to hold up those prices to the vast majority of Americans.

>>57542177
And 7nm won't happen until they start using something other than silicon.

>>57539062
>No prosumer 16 core at launch
I have been running at 5 year old retired esxi host for 2 years now looking to upgrade but guess I'm still stuck.

>>57542400
>video game
Very important

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>>57539062
too little, too late
bulldozer 2.0

>>57543789

Pray tell what else can Intel's igpu do that would run rings around AMD's onboard graphics chips?

>>57542570
>No, piriform has no intention of fixing it.
I don't think it's an issue with Speccy. They don't put a proper temperature sensor in the package and instead they measure the resistance at some point in the chip and use that to estimate the temperature.

>>57543905

The FX sensor measures thermal margin rather than absolute temperature. AMD's own overdrive software shows it as essentially how close to the redline you are.

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>>57542570
>piriform has no intention of fixing it.
Speccy also display the amount of RAM wrong.
It's GiB, not GB.

>>57544013
>Apple

nice bait flamengo

>>57544114
Finder uses proper SI prefixes, i.e. 1000 B = 1 KB.

>>57544124
That's even worse than mislabeled KiB

>>57544225
It's correct, unlike mislabeled KiB.

>>57539472
what about PSP? will we be able to run performance x86 machines without backdoored coprocessors?

>all this hyper
>it'll be shit in the end
Just like HBM.
Pajeets can't compete.

>>57539062
>1500RMB
expensive as fuck

[spoiler]ganbare yo AMD[/spoiler]

>>57545571
>weebs are into amd
No wonder.

>>57545571
1500RMB is 220 Dollars

Let's see how much power it eats. I might upgrade when the whole doesnt eat more than an i5

>>57543756
Oh shut the fuck up.
IBM's 7nm FD-SOI based FinFET node will be ramping up in 2017.

>>57542082
If they're putting a 4c/4t chip out at the baseline, why would they? It'll squash everything below an i5 k series simply because it can be overclocked.

>>57542082
>>57546543
Look at the slide. They're introducing an A6-9500 APU at 45USD and a (Athlon III ???) 950K CPU only (quadcore?) at 85USD. Summit Ridge refers to their enthusiast line, which are going to compete with Intel's i5 and i7 lines.

It's also worth noting that AMD is introducing a new APU tier in the A12. I guess that means we can expect a substantial performance jump for APUs.

>>57539297
2500k is on par with or slower than the 8350 so what do you want exactly?

>>57546675
> also worth noting that AMD is introducing a new APU tier in the A12.

Try to keep up with things that happened in the last year at least.
Certain Mobile Carrizo and Bristol Ridge both carried the A12 badge. It isn't new.

>>57541290
more reasons to stay with win7, amazing.

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Oh look, it's anoher amd hype thread. I'm getting really tired by this shit for the last 6 years.

>>57546675
>a (Athlon III ???) 950K CPU only (quadcore?) at 85USD
That'd be an APU with a non-functional IGP. It's a bulldozer chip with no level 3 cache. It won't be competitive with anything heftier than a low end Pentium, the price is completely acceptable.

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>>57539062
BREHS

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>>57541576
>8 cores/16 threads at 95w with supposedly Haswell level IPC

thats bullshit but I believe it

Can someone explain the pic?

Are the three versions just 4/6/8 core renditions of the old model?

>>57546796
only if you use all 8 cores which youll likely never do

Are they not going to release their AM4 motherboards this year like that said they would? I haven't heard any news about them in a month or so.

>>57547048
AMD stated that Zen(core has the same power per clock as Excavator(core pair).
This is the clock scaling present in Carrizo:

XVR with AVFS
3700mhz: 22.5w~
3500mhz: 16w~
3150mhz: 10w~
2800mhz: 7w~
2450mhz: >5w~
2100mhz: 3w~
1750mhz: >2.5w~

8 Zen cores at 3ghz~ plus roughly 15w for uncore works out to 95w pretty neatly assuming AMD sticks to their present TDP rating as typical power.
Some ES chips leaked not too long ago with a 3.15ghz base clock though, and AMD stated at their Blender demo that they would be shipping Summit Ridge chips with clocks higher than what had been shown up to that point.

A top binned golden chip should undervolt like crazy too.

>>57546796
Lol no it isn't. 8350 is between a 3470 and 3770.

>>57539062
Jesus I've been waiting to long for this. I'm ready to just give Intel my shekels again. My 2500k is nice and all but I really want a 6 core processor. Damn AMD hurry the fuck up.

>>57546804
>bristol ridge
that isn't even out yet

>mobile
These aren't mobile chips. Mobile branding is a complete clusterfuck from both AMD and Intel. For some reason, desktop chips are branded in much more sane, logical ways.

>>57546990
>bulldozer chip
That's possible, but I doubt it. It's priced in accordance with the new APUs, but isn't an APU. It doesn't make much sense for it to be a bulldozer part. And again, looking at the slide reveals a lot; each processor line is colour-coded. That may mean that the new APUs won't be on the AM4 platform, which I hope is not the case. Either way, the 950K is grouped with the APUs, which strongly suggests they're all the same architecture-- Zen.

>>57547428
Bristol Ridge parts have been selling in OEM system for months now.
It doesn't matter if they're mobile or not. They have the same branding scheme.
A12 isn't new. It has existed since Carrizo.


When you get called out for being a fucking idiot and talking out of your ass the correct response isn't doubling down. The correct thing to do is shut the fuck up and stop talking out of your ass.

>>57547481
>Bristol Ridge parts have been selling in OEM system for months now.
OEMs just got the chips in September. They've had just over two months to play with them. I don't think they've brought anything to market yet-- at least nothing I can find. Feel free to post a link.

>A12 isn't new. It has existed since Carrizo.
A12 mobile =/= A12 desktop. AMD branded some of their mobile GPUs as Radeon 8xxx. That, also, did not correlate to anything on desktop and wasn't useful for reference.

>called out fuckity fucking fucker fuck ass fucker
relax, champ, jesus

Am I gonna have to wait for Linux support if I get this thing?

AMD and Linux never work for me.

>>57547585
The moniker is consistent, you 80 IQ subhuman retard. It does not differentiate.
The A12 branding isn't new.

Bristol Ridge chips have been available to OEMs for *months*
http://hexus.net/tech/news/systems/97096-amd-am4-based-pc-desktop-system-spotted-costco/
HP had a 2 month exclusivity deal with them. Systems were already selling in September, meaning that HP got them in half a year prior.

Again, you fucking retard, when you get called out for talking out of your ass you don't double down and keep talking out of your ass. You shut your inbred fucktarded mouth.

>>57547687
>The A12 branding isn't new

Well, again, I was talking specifically about desktop parts. I really don't care if there were mobile parts with the same designation. I don't know how much clearer I can make that to you.

As for the HP system, it would have been very helpful to the conversation for you to post that outright. Instead you immediately decided to be a cunt. Sorry you're so miserable. I hope you have at least a few people in your life that can tolerate you.

>>57547783
>I'm just going to keep talking out of my ass
>when I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about
>and I don't know when to stop posting no matter how hard I embarrass myself

Stay on tumblr where you belong, faggot.

>>57547792
If I had stopped posting, I never would have gotten the relevant information out of you.

>embarass myself
>implying I tie my ego to anonymous internet posts

>>57539908
Do you have a source for that? I'd be interested in having that handy.

>>57547098
This is somewhat worrisome. Even if Zen IPC is high, getting it to frequencies that Intel chips run at will require a lot of power. What would the power requirements of a Zen CPU with 4 cores at 4.0-4.4ghz look like?

>>57548677
>Do you have a source for that? I'd be interested in having that handy.
Hes referring to the Blender demo and taking the results wildly out of context.

>>57548677
Their lower core count Raven Ridge APUs are fabbed on tweaked process geared towards higher clocks.
The Summit Ridge dies are all server candidates that didn't fit the stricter clock binning criteria, and as such they're fabbed aiming for lower clocks with higher perf/watt. It doesn't harm AMD's position terribly for these consumer parts since they're trying to aim primarily at the i7E line up which all have moderate sustained clocks.

>>57548677
>Hes referring to the Blender demo and taking the results wildly out of context.
both chips at same clocks and core/thread count with the zen chip ending up finishing first is taking the results wildly out of context?

>>57549282
meant for
>>57549145

>>57549282
Its a single workload. You can't take one out of context result and then pretend like this is indicative of average performance.

Telling people that Zen has equal or higher IPC to Broadwell without elaborating on that and providing accurate context is deceptive. Its outright lying by omission that only fanboys do.

>tfw dont know whether to get Skylake now or wait for Zen

AyyMD is always a huge gamble

but 95w TDP for 16 threads...

>>57549452

Given kabylake is factory overclocked skylake for the same money (most likely) and zen could really shake things up unless you need an upgrade now waiting is a smart move.

Yeah yeah "just wait" but its not everyday we see a whole new architecture from AMD.

>>57549510
I always want to trust in AyyMD as the good guy but my experience with them is 50/50. Tried one of their GPUs and it didnt work out, for all the good shit it did there were more problems to make it shitty.

Ive got an i5 4590 so not that desperate for an upgrade, I did cuck myself with only 4 cores and no overclocking though. Young and foolish.

>>57541368
6700k for $259 at microcenter right now

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Tell the idiot, how will it compare to i7 3770k?

>>57550235
Same IPC but moar cores and threads

>>57539876
That should be summit bridges off-shoot bristol ridge around 2nd half/3rd quarter of next year.

At this rate the next time I have to replace my cpu is if my 4670k actually fails.

>>57550583
That should have been written as raven ridge.

will there be mini itx am4 mothersboards?

>>57550235
What are the jumper wires for?

When is the last time AMD released a CPU that was a direct competitor to intel's CPUs?

>>57550853
2006

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>>57550814
I think someone broke CPU pins and tried that to make it work or something.

I can't wait for the apu's to come out
Quick post your zen apu dream setup
>zen apu
>ncase m1 case
>itx motherboard with none of that legacy shit
>m.2 ssd as boot drive
>3-4 wd nas 4tb drives
It will be perfect for torrenting and playing movies

>>57550948
you're retarded, leave this board

>>57546850
I'm sure they'll be included on linux too, it's just that microsoft doesn't want to waste time updating older versions of windows

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>>57545967
AMD's mascot is an anime girl

>>57551776
Why does she have a huge boner

>>57541140
The Zen CPUs that are being released first are all CPU only - no iGPU

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>>57544013
>2) https://4chan.org/g/

>>57544225
KiB = Kilo in Byte
KB = Kilobyte
Kilo = 10^3

Thus, 1000Byte = 1Kilobyte /1 Kilo in byte

>>57550709
I don't see why not

>>57551898
>>57550709
I'm looking forward to the mitx boards. One using just the onchip interfaces, 2x sata 4xusb and network (think this is add in) without any northbridge taking space leaves space for decent power delivery or maybe keeping the cost really low.

>>57541140
Summit ridge has no IGP

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>>57549935
Yeah, in America.

>>57539297
You would be lucky if the single core performance is on par with an i3.

>>57552654
Pretty much.

>>57552654
i3 6100 has good single thread performance..

>>57552811
Not knocking i3, knocking AMD because I know it won't be able to compete with the new i3 k series.

>>57552654
>tripfagging
>>>/reddit/

>>57552944
Stop projecting and go back to your downvote hugbox.

:3

>>57552944
Do not reply to tripfags you dumbfuck.

>>57552821
I hope Zen will be good. I need a new PC for college/work and maybe some light gaming if any.
I plan on getting the 4c/8t Zen CPU. Do you think Intel will offer something similar/better for the same money?
The alternative is a 6600K machine for about 1-1.3k that i already planned.

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>falling for the Another Massive Dissappointment meme

>>57553444
>they never recalled them
>no lawsuit took place
o.... k?

>>57553203
Might as well be demotivational unlike that other faggot that is trying to """"""reason"""""" with the tripfag

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>>57553444
i wonder who is behind this post

>>57554239
that tripfag is known to be a troll, doesn't even own high end hardware and shitposts about AMD from a trash laptop.

>>57553894
Nvidia damage control at its finest.
Polaris was a huge hit in terms of sales, and AMD got Polaris GPUs into two new lines of Apple systems.

>>57554584
>Polaris was a huge hit in terms of sales
[citation needed]

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>>57554247
I wonder who is behind this post...

>>57554890
>AMD GPUs
>Poo in Loo
Get your memes right, fucker.

>>57554944
Poo in the GPU
Spicy Curry poo that uses 400w of power

>>57554969
>Poos
>Having any watts whatsoever

The only reason poos love low wattage ARM PCs so much is because they need to power the fucks via exercise bike.

>>57554890
>projection

>>57554247
>Hi I'm unironically anti-semitic, the picture.

>>57555037
Back to tumblr, faggot.

>>57555064
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multinational_companies_with_research_and_development_centres_in_Israel

Fun fact, Nvidia don't likes Israel

poo hundred dollars

>>57555326
Fun fact, nvidia found a way to surpass even the jews in greed

>>57555608
>amd is shit
>blame nvidia

Nvidia are 'evils'
AMD are incompetent

any news regarding the consumer boards for summit ridge supporting ecc?
I give 0 shits about ipc and such vs the latest and greatest.
I'm looking at power efficient boards due to zen being an soc and plentiful, decent performing threads.
If it has ecc support, I think they'd make amazing home server/ virtualization hosts.

>>57555650
>AMD is better than nvidia
>Nvidia is the same as AMD with a retard tax

AMD is good and Nvidia is overpriced shit that is applel tier

>Summit Ridge starting at $200
AMD is finished. This shows that not even a 6 core CPU with hyperthreading can compete with a simple 4 core from Intel without Hyperthreading. This is humiliating, it's Bulldozer all over again.

>>57555678
AMD consumes twice as much power for the same performance, has no OpenGL support, and shit tier drivers

that is not "equivalent" to Nvidia

>>57555703
Nice damage control, shitposter.

>>57555721
>OpenGL
OpenGL is deprecated. You might as well complain that Flash isn't the de facto standard for streaming video anymore, too.

>shit tier drivers
bro, Nvidia drivers are so complex at this point that they can't even fix the bugs anymore. The last three driver versions broke my system so badly that I had to get archived drivers from May, and I'm not even close to being the only one.

Driver issues happen. It's not that important. But if you really want to make it the foremost issue, Nvidia drivers have been significantly worse than AMD drivers over the past five years.

>>57555672
No consumer ECC support. Only for their server boards. Just like Jewtel.

>>57555678
Why AMD is almost bankrupt while NVIDIA is literally a monopoly on dedicated GPUs and make money like hot cake? It's because AMD are incompetent.

>>57556073
AMD is not anywhere close to bankruptcy. Take your childish /v/ meme shitposting and keep it far away from actual economics.

>>57556347
>AMDrone calling someone a /v/tard when literally all AMD is good for is cheap console gpus

heh

>>57557097

Given last time Nvidia tried to make a console GPU they failed spectacularly its not surprising neither sony or MS will touch them with a 10 foot pole.

>>57541237
That's the competitor to X99 platform. The lowest end processors on X99 have 28 PCI-E lanes (so 4 less than AMD is offering), but high end ones have 40.

B350 is the platform for mainstream users (comparable to Z170)

>>57541368
if it has 5% less st performance than 6600 then you'll have a 6700k (259$) with 12% less performance for 200$.

Not bad but not great

>>57557097
You should know that the console GPU market is much larger than the enthusiast GPU market, so calling AMD near bankrupt is just retarded.

>>57555843
>OpenGL is deprecated.
kys fambam

>tfw it won't even be close to my 6700k so who cares

*dabs*

>>57557139
Nvidis makes GPUs for Artificial Intelligence and scientific research

gaymen is literally all AMD is good for

>>57559279
>All this cringe in a single post

>>57560326
*dabs* what's the matter AMD tard? Mad I've got superior hardware?

wccftech articles are bullshit until third party confirmation. a few weeks ago they were saying that kaby lake would have a 40% performance differential over skylake for fucks sake.

>>57539807
It's BTFD
Beat the fuck down.

Idiots, all of you, idiots, misusing the meme.

>>57560416

Edgy nigger

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I will post a smug anime girl for every AMDrone that kills themselves after finding out that this piece of shit is Another Massive Dissappointment

>>57547428
>That's possible, but I doubt it.
It's EXTREMELY well established. Athlons are APUs without the IGP. The AM4 APUs, Bristol Ridge, are a tweaked version of Carrizo. Carrizo uses excavator, which is based on Bulldozer.

As the other anon noted, stop being an idiot and stop giving your opinion on things you know very little about. Yes, Bristol Ridge mobile AND desktop parts are out.

>>57552654
>This idiot displaying his idiocy again
Fun fact, did you know that all Intel chips of the same generation have roughly the same IPC, with negligible variations due to differences in cache?

If AMD compete with the i3 lineup, they compete with the entire lineup. Daily reminder to everyone else to ignore this idiot.

>>57547066
8320 owner here. It's fucking 2016 nothing is stuck on single threads anymore. I play a lot of games and the only thing I notice not using all cores is Skyrim. Video rendering, SVP, compiling and most applications I use all use it. And nobody just has one program open anyway

>>57560935
You're still single core limited in most current games. I have a Xeon with about the same single core performance as your 8320 and I notice CPU limitation in all games that aren't Vulkan or DX12.

It's not necessarily catastrophically bad, but it's there.

>>57560998
I have task manager and afterburner up when I play, I dont surpass 50% usage on any core with a 280x, and I notice next to nothing on just one core.

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>>57561073
Have you been paying attention to your GPU usage? Cuz CPU usage doesn't matter that much given that a game will almost never shoot it up to 100% even when bottlenecking hardcore. See image.

Maybe the 280X is weak enough that you won't bottleneck it, or the games that you play are graphically intensive enough that you'll tap out the graphics card first, but weak single core performance is kind of a downer for games right now. There are some that I don't bottleneck in, like the Witcher III. That just kills the graphics card.

Will I be able to install Windows 7 on the new AMD processors, or it's just an Intel problem?

>>57546028
Pleb got 17% import tax.
No import tax no vat master race here.

Should I get a i5 6500 skylake now for black friday or wait for the zens?

what kind of performance difference could I expect?

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>>57539062
Just in time. I actually have to turn Underclock my 8350 below stock to play The Division and chose some real shit settings for it not to get so fucking hot it just shuts off and refuses to turn on for a solid minute or two

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>>57560572
>When all bets says it shouldnt measure up to Intel
>It will and will be the final nail in the coffin for what will be called "The Unexpected Events of 2016"

Pic related

>>57566182

Clean out your case and get some proper airflow.

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>>57544013
You imply anyone gives a fuck.
They clearly don't faggot.

>>57562070
>implying 75fps isnt more than enough

>>57555721
>AMD consumes twice as much power
20 more watts isnt "twice as much", stupid pajeet learn 2 math

>>57558649
its outdated shit that is getting phased out by vulkan

>>57541576
That XP 813 and 613 looks sweet. I don't need overclocking, MOAR CORES at less power consumption than my i5 4460, and with better performance (I hope) are perfect

>>57560300
>I can't spell or make a valid argument

>>57544013
isn't a kibibyte 1000bytes?

>>57569091
The actually important OpenGL users (= pro applications) aren't going implementing the latest meme api anytime soon.
Also, GL ES is still the only ubiquitous api in mobile, and WebGL is taking off as well.

>>57539062
Binned overclocking chips will be $500

Poorfags btfo

>>57570454
if "SR7" is the 8c/16t chip and it's 500 bucks then it's more like Intel btfo

>>57569560
kilo is 1000
kibi is 1024

>>57569091
it's still going to be under development and maintenance by Khronos. not everyone wants or needs a lower level API.

there's a possibility it will disappear from GPU drivers and subsequent OpenGL implementations will use Vulkan as an intermediary though.

>>57570523
Same performance as the 6 core 5820 for $380?

Sounds shitty

>>57539062
>1.5v on 14nm process
Enjoy your reduced lifespan AMD fags

Would they hurry up and release a list of products so I can see if its worth upgrading from a 3770k yet?

>>57570791
List of products is less useful than some type of benchmarks being released

>>57566182
What board and psu are you running? It may have an under-powered vrm, and in the case of the psu, may be reaching its end of usable life.