Why are you not using Gentoo yet? >Tons of packages for everything

Because linux is for retards.

>>57531955
To compile shit is just too boring.

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>>57531968

>>57531955
~amd64 mustard race reporting in.

>openBSD
>secure

Choose one

>>57531955
>secure as OpenBSD
>OpenBSD
Enjoy your FBI backdoors my man

Because I use Linux as a tool, not as a project to endlessly fuck with.

>>57531976
The compiler does it. It never gets bored.

>>57532173
>Enjoy your FBI backdoors my man

Why would you care if the FBI reads about your trivial life? I want a live-in NSA minder who pays rent and drives me to work. I work for the government anyway and I'm not a pedo so I don't need security.

>>57532173
Which of the bsd variants is touted as the most secure?

Free?

I've been using Gentoo for more than one year.

>>57532215
I have been using debian for over 5. Have thought for a while now that i would like to give gentoo a go.

>>57532212
OpenBSD is the most secure since they have pioneered most of the hardening features.

This is /g/ remember. :^)

>>57532207
Why the fuck do you think I give a hint of shit about FBI? I'm not even a burger, Keep your burger spyware to yourself

>>57532236
>This is /g/ remember. :^)

Yep. Thanks

>>57532238
This desu

>>57532238
Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of shit with down syndrome.

>>57532339
That's what ur mum said last night

Another quality thread from the arse end of the internet

>>57531955

>Why are you not using Gentoo yet ?

Kevin made me use Solus instead.

Nice Kevin desktop out of Kevin. Kevin.

>>57531955
Solus > gentoo

>>57532386
>systemd
>ever

>>57531955
>>Rolling realease
I don't want that.

I also don't want to have to bother with USE flags. Stuff that is compiled in but unused wastes a bit of drive space, but I don't care about that, avoiding the trouble of thinking about it is worth more than a few kilobytes. Let the package maintainer worry about that, that's what he's there for.

Also "sane default setup" > "build it yourself from scratch"

t. Debian Stable

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Even gentoo inventor doesn't use that trash os

>>57531955
Because the package manager is written in Python.

I used it for a few years but ended up switching to arch because it just works.

>>57531955
I don't feel like spending an entire day installing it

>>57532467
>work laptop

Imho even i use a macbook not because i want to, but because they give you a work laptop so if anything breaks they have support/get a replacement because byod is retarded

>free of normies
Does that mean the Gentoo community is full of as many faggots as Arch is?

The logo is abhorrent.

Jokes aside, just dualbooted derpian, someday I'll give it a try

>>57533210
Actually, that was no joke, the logo is so ugly that it alone makes me think if I really want to use it.

>>57533229
Still better than Antergos

>>57533229
I feel the same way about your mother

Does Funtoo count?

>>57533743
Yes

>>57533777
Then count me in.

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>>57531976
not only that! its booring, time intense and my arms hurt from using that compiler crank.
also after 4 hours of compiling, i have no time for my family

>>57532184
Why not both?
>>57531955
>easiest cross-compiler setup
>compiling on your server
>>57532238
NSA tracks anything anyway
>killing based on metadata
thank god 4chan is one of the most patriotic/nationalist sites available and I don't live in Pakistan
>>57532339
Point in case
>>57532399
>memed hatred
>>57532735
So is rmlint and flower
>>57533299
Antetgos > muh we make our own repos manjaro
>>57533886
Keked

>>57531955
>Name isn't dumb
do you know what a gentoo is?

>>57533932
>Antergos > Manjaro
Totally. I love the distro, but their logo is still kinda shit.

But I am OP. I've been using Gentoo for 3 years, it really is amazing. I have an LXC with a simpler distro that I install random shit I'll only need a few times or large packages that I don't want to compile (like graphics software and libreoffice). I created aliases in my shell to ssh -Y into the LXC to run those programs.
It's really a great setup, I love it.
Once you trash one install trying to wrap your head around USE flags and how the dependency systems work (world file should not hold dependencies or you will never be able to depclean properly), it's really amazing.
The irc is great too. Plus it has a nice reputation. A lot of GNU/Linux veterans really respect it and its philosophy, so they take your concerns seriously and are usually willing to help. (With Arch everyone tells you that you're doing it wrong and to KISS and to fuck off because you're a skid)

>>57535184
plus hardened is GOAT and having an optimized and up-to-date build environment constantly makes programming a lot simpler

Because I use Mint. Boots in ~30 seconds, uses about 400 mb of RAM with cinnamon and nothing else running, I have all muh codecs and drivers and can add hardware anytime without having to go all Samuel L Jackson in Jurassic Park, it just works dot gif

I guarantee my baby distro computer is a dream to use compared to your glorified pocket calculator with no software

>>57535362
>uses about 400 mb of RAM with cinnamon and nothing else running
thats great next time I reboot I will remember to take a screenshot of X with nothing else running using 177mb of ram.

>no software
there are over 200,000 ebuilds in the ports tree.

>>57531955
But I already am running Gentoo, OP.
>As secure as OpenBSD
>One of the best package managers
I love emerge but it isn't secure at all. If you get MITM'd during an update you're done for.

>>57533935
>do you know what a gentoo is?
A penguin. Woah, that's so dumb, considering Linux's mascot is a penguin and all.

>>57535362
>Boots in ~30 seconds, uses about 400 mb of RAM with cinnamon and nothing else running
That's irrelevant. I boot in ~5 seconds (most of that because my BIOS is slow as fuck) and use ~80mb once X is running. Doesn't mean that my distro is great.
>I guarantee my baby distro computer is a dream to use compared to your glorified pocket calculator with no software
But Gentoo has more packages available than Mint, Anon.

I gave a try to the arch meme and after two days I still can't get pulseaudio to work

so no, I'm not going to waste my time again

>>57535412
>>57535393

>more software

yeah but you're against having software on your computer that's why you chose a minimal distro for no reason. Keep comparing X to Cinnamon, my computer is easy to use and looks nice

answer the hardware question. For instance, I just installed ardour and plugged in my USB Audio Interface and my computer knew what it was. No typing involved.

>>57535454
>pulseaudio
theres your problem anon

>>57535476
I do need audio to work somehow

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>>57532467
>>57533015
yeah, he complains because he was a fan of Snow Leopard. All this time and Gentoo users are the ultimate cucks. Not even the fuckign creator uses Gentoo.
Probably he just want to sue the computer and not be worried about compiling shit.

>>57535471
>yeah but you're against having software on your computer that's why you chose a minimal distro for no reason.
Wrong. Gentoo is not a "minimal distro". It's a configurable distro. You can choose to make it small or choose to install a fuckload of things (example: I currently have almost 500 packages installed on my machine, even though a base install only starts with ~200).

>I just installed ardour and plugged in my USB Audio Interface and my computer knew what it was
I can do the same here. I enabled most of my kernel modules. I don't like having to recompile my kernel and reboot everytime I want to plug a new device.

who else /xorg-server 1.19/ here?

I still don't understand the point of funtoo

>>57531955
package availability thing is kind of not true since anyone can compile anything from source on anything

>>57536642
Me neither. It uses git to sync the repos but apparently you can do that on gentoo as well.

>>57537149
B-but muh USE flags!

>>57536642
me either have you seen pentoo?

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>>57531955
Because I don't want to spend an evening or longer working my way through a manual to install but just click next next finish in a wizard after an 8+ hour workday.

If Gentoo came with an installation wizard like that and an easy way to update I'd be fine with it I guess?
Tried it 10+ years ago and it was great back then, just a lot of work and time, which was fine when I was in school.

Pic related as it is what I'm using now.

>>57537205
Oh and I briefly tried Calculate Linux but it broke frequently and has a very small community.

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>>57531955

because installing it is difficult and time-consuming. it takes longer to install than a user-friendly os

>>57537230
time-consuming yes but difficult no unless you consider reading difficult

>>57536642
Gentoo's original creator got fed up with other Gentoo developers so he decided to fork Gentoo. That's why they're pretty similar.

>>57537154
>apparently you can do that on gentoo as well.
Really? How? Last time I checked the official repos weren't available through git.

>>57537230
>installing it is difficult
Wrong. The installation guide is very straightforward.
>and time-consuming
You're right. But how often does one need to install his OS, though?

>>57537273
>>57537276


how do you supposed to read the tutorial to install it without a 2nd computer?

>>57537296
links dumb ass you would know if you read

>>57537296
Printing? Using a phone? An ereader? A tablet? Bringing your computer to a friend's or a library? Recording it aloud while recording yourself and using an mp3 player to play it? Pluging an ethernet cable into your ass and clenching your rectum hard enough to generate electrical impulsions that will simulate tcp packets sent on port 80 to gentoo's servers?

i tried installing it once. one of the commands wouldn't work after i installed the stage3 tarball

>>57537335
You probably forgot to symlink something inside the chroot.

>>57531955
But I am

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>>57531955
>just found out it's pronounced JEN-too
I-I might have to go back to Arch after this...

>>57537276
>Really? How? Last time I checked the official repos weren't available through git.

[gentoo]
location = /usr/portage
sync-type = git
sync-uri = git://github.com/gentoo-mirror/gentoo.git
auto-sync = yes

its been around for a year or two now I think, so much quicker then rsync,

>>57537383
It's short for "Generation Two" meaning a new type of distribution

>>57537383
How did you pronounce it before you knew it was JEN-too

>>57537414
Pretty sure it's named after the gentoo penguins.

>>57531968
fpbp

>>57537426
GEN-too, as in "gain".

>>57537400
Ah, yes. I think I saw this repo when I was looking into it. I know it's stupid but I don't trust github with this. What you said made me believe that that the devs had done something like git.gentoo.org, just like they did for rsync.gentoo.org.

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>>57531955
Softwares that I use are made for Windows and Apple because they can actually make money if everyone who buys a computer can use them; rather than if only everyone (12 people / 100000) who buys a computer, becomes interested enough to look up system customization, installs shady new operating systems that require command line management, is content with the buggy nature of too much freedom, buys them.

This is completely looking over the fact that if you are good enough with computers you can customize from Top to bottom rather than the other way around, from Windows to Linux etc. and it is better if you are not growing a beard trying to do something 2 mouse clicks would every day.

tl;dr: It is not worth it in any case. Good softwares work better on Windows. You are not a special snowflake. If you want to do it, do it. Otherwise stop shitposting these threads.

If you are thinking about going Linux from Windows: don't. I have tried.
Learn programming on Windows, earn money, forget why Linux even exists.

Apple and Windows are interchangeable with the little downside of Apple sucking cock (slowly) and not working with certain software (namely games).

>Why is Linux popular then?
Poor people buy poor hardware that need to be customized from bottom to top in order to function well. Linux lets you do that. Literally (yes) no other reason.

>>57537318
>>57537305
>>57537296
Just use ubuntu live cd and open terminal and furfor, it's that simple.

>>57537882
*furfox

>>57537688
>softwares
>softwares
This triggers the autist in me for some reason.

>>57531955
>Doesn't break as much as arch
Why would I want something that breaks?

>>57538548
everything breaks

>>57531955
I don't use literal meme OSes.

>>57531955
I was bot aware of the large selection of games....... oh wait

>Installing gentoo for the first time
>Wait, I have to compile everything...
>Ok.
>Installation took 2 days because of shity internet and compile speeds
>Time to install a DE!
>Take to long, I quit.
>Back to debian

>>57538371
You thinking you understand autism triggers me more.

>>57538775
dont install a de then

>>57538872
You thinking you thinking you thinking you understand autism triggers me more shit head

>>57538775
I don't understand why people get Arch/Gentoo only to install a DE on top of it.

>>57531955

Already using Slackware. I've admittedly never used Gentoo, but since I already have a stable Slackware installation, why would I go through the hassle of switching to another system? I have no complaints.

>>57537882
This. The installation medium only needs to have kernel from this decade, chroot and be able to download and unpack few archives. Almost all livecds/usbs can do that, most however seem to prefer systemrescuecd as that is a handy tool to have on a usb stick after the install as well

>>57539591
There are many reasons why Slackware is Linux’s oldest living distribution. It does not try to emulate Windows, it tries to be as Unix-like as possible. It does not try
to cover up processes with fancy, point-and-click GUIs (Graphical User Interfaces). Instead, it puts users in control by letting them see exactly what’s going on. Its
development is not rushed to meet deadlines-each version comes out when it is ready. Slackware is for people who enjoy learning and tweaking their system to do exactly what they want. Slackware’s stability and simplicity are why people will continue to use it for years to come. Slackware currently enjoys a reputation as a solid server and a no-nonsense workstation. You can find Slackware desktops running nearly any window manager or desktop environment, or none at all. Slackware servers power businesses, acting in every capacity that a server can be used in. Slackware users are among the most satisfied Linux users.

pasta-slackware, pasta-satisfied, pasta-happy, pasta-reputation, pasta-GUI, pasta-control, pasta-windows

>>57531955
I run Gentoo on my servers

>>57531955
>>Doesn't break as much as arch
So it does break. That's why I'm not using it.

I use it but it's too long to install packages.

It took 1 week to set up things on my T60

>as secure as OpenBSD
>GNU
>secure
>Linux
>secure

>>57531955
because I want to be able to install/reinstall easily and quickly so I use Ubuntu. Also easier to get drives, easier package manager because I already know how to use apt, more support if something goes wrong so I don't have to read through a massive manual

also
>Doesn't break as much as arch
>as much

>>57531955
How does this multilib crap work? Seems like every package is dragging in its own abi_x86_32 flag but I'm on a 64 bit system. What gives?

>>57541714
Gentoo testing could break on occasion, but in my experience hasn't. Gentoo stable, is extremely stable.
>>57541738
Only if you set a 32bit use flag, Are you sure your terminal colours aren't just making the output unreadable?

>>57531955
Hey gentoo users, how do I enable LTO? I want to benchmark it to see if it would make any difference in some of the performance-critical programs I use

Is this the gentoo general thread

>>57531955
Because I use Arch because I'm not computer illiterate

^^^
is what arch users actually think

@57543487
>gentoo
>computer illiterate
kys script kiddie

>>57543487
nice syntax

>>57543534
not how you refer to a postpost

>>57543559
also not how to reply to a postpost

y'all need to lurkmoar or kys

>>57543606
you need to lurk moar or kys

>>57539549
This. Unless you're building an original DE (which would make no sense to be doing in arch), it's unecessary and ultimatley bloat.

>>57542865
I'm pretty sure. What's more likely is that I'm reading this 72 kinds of wrong. But what I think I'm looking at is that doing emerge -auDN @world is rebuilding packages with the 32 bit abi as the only new flag.

>>57543703
It shouldn't do that unless another package needs a 32bit version of whats upgrading. And even then portage both tells you what is causing that and asks you to put it in your package.use. Try with verbose output.

>>57531955
I don't want to waste time and power on compiling ,also i heard that they don't patch the kernel , just release new upstream.
I don't know about this one so maybe someone can confirm or deny this.
Other than that , i will give it a try sometime once i have a designated Linux laptop that doesn't need proprietary blobs to make a minimal riced Linux install on, since i heard the system speed and stability is nice because everything is compiled for my machine.

>>57543832
>I don't want to waste time and power on compiling
Compiling is not something you do manually, so it takes no extra time, and the power cost from the occasional compile is miniscule anyway. Paying a few cents more, oh no.

>also i heard that they don't patch the kernel
Gentoo lets you choose what kernel to install. There's vanilla-sources (which is the untouched upstream kernel), hardened-sources (which is the grsecurity/PaX kernel), gentoo-sources (which is the upstream kernel with some gentoo-specific patches on top) and dozens more.

>>57543832
>Other than that , i will give it a try sometime once i have a designated Linux laptop that doesn't need proprietary blobs to make a minimal riced Linux install on, since i heard the system speed and stability is nice because everything is compiled for my machine.
This is bollocks. Compiling for your machine basically makes no difference.

The real reason gentoo might feel faster is because it lets you make packages more lightweight. Don't need all that dbus integration etc. garbage weighing down every single program? Then simply don't enable it at compile time.

Gentoo lets you really slim down a system the way other distros can only dream of with their binary packages

>>57531955
>>57539591
>>57541040
Why is Slackware the only distro i hear about when people say their Linux install was infected by malware?
Not trying to imply anything, just curious if anyone has heard similar things.

But I am

>>57543915
Because slackware users are the only people paranoid enough to believe they're infected by malware?

>>57531955

because i am an adult without autism and i like to get actual work done
> debian

>>57543915
i think you're confusing slackware with Mint, or in recent days kde neon

>>57543909
Compiling software for your machine (and system configuration) has a lot to offer imo. For example you are always sure your software has all the optional functions enabled that your system can support.

For example if you try to run DesMuMe on Ubuntu/Debian ,it is unable to run in Opengl3.1 mode (which greatly reduces visual artifacts on some DS games, and improves performance) if you use NVIDIA blob gpu drivers. You need to compile it yourself (even with the same source file from repos and default configuration) and it will work.

Those are some rare quirks, but still it makes sure a program is compiled for your system and is compatible.

And compiling on gentoo is much easier than on other distros from my experience, searching for dependencies on some distros is a pain in the ass, at least in my opinion.

>>57544003
and then you are assuming by these precompiled packages that you know how to compile them better than someone that does this for a living.

I tried once, got the option to either use the precompiled kernel or do it myself. Since I could not do it myself, I chose to skip it since otherwise I thought it'd defeat the purpose to not compile on my own.

What I'm saying is, is that I am too retarded to use Gentoo.

>>57544002
>>57543972
its not like people going around shouting "wow i hate slackware its shit i got malware" but people reporting catching Linux malware usually just happen to be using Slackware. I don't know really , was just curious.
Most users really like Slackware from what i heard though.

@57543606
bait

Package manager is really nice to use
Gentoo is really good with multi-arch
Ability to individually configure on a per package basis is great

Gentoo initial setup does take some time - but the maintenance is really.

I typically use stable pacakages except for video driver and kernel. It's nice to mix and match for whatever you need.

>>57544051
imo slackware is ok, i kind of like it actually but its too much hazzle to maintain your system , you always find something to tweak and id rather spend time doing actual work , thats one of the issues with linux, you get sidetracked so easily. If it is the WM or the Dist itself, very annoying when you're working.

I miss being NEET and having all day to screw around with these DIY distros like gentoo and arch

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>>57544032
Well i had problems with precompiled builds of cmus, desmume, and mpv , and those usually came away when recompiling from the source provided from the repo with default scripts.
I don't try say i know better, since I'm compiling just for my PC and not for general user base, but in some cases its better to compile yourself.
You are trying to hard to make anonymous people look bad on an anime imageboards.

>>57543894
>gentoo-sources (which is the upstream kernel with some gentoo-specific patches on top)
iirc it's more of a backporting of kernel security and bug fixes to current stable keyworded kernels. the gentoo-specific patches are rather light

>>57531955
>free of normies
>implying

Tbh every person I know irl or see post about Gentoo on the internet is a wannabe techie.

>>57544051
How does one even “catch” Linux malware besides enabling password-less root login on port 22?

>>57544148
It adds some meta-configuration options as well like easily letting you set all the kernel options that are required for OpenRC, systemd etc. to run

>>57537414
>too is short for two
god I hate the tech industry's naming schemes.

>>57544443
i guess they install random .run installers or linux games from torrents ,dunno.

I've been running on gentoo as a primary system for past 12 years, since 2004 when I migrated from poor Mandrake. We've had our ups and downs since, but I love it. After all these years I must say that Gentoo always has something new up its sleeve for me and there's still more to know :)

>>57544624
Can you show me a single .run or linux game torrent that contains malware?

All of the ones I've seen have just been untouched gog releases or whatever, that pass the checksums

Has anyone tried Sabayon?

>>57531955
>>As secure as OpenBSD
Far more secure than OpenBSD, pretty much any Linux is.

>>57544774
I did, but it somehow didn't feel right. But it may be suitable for those wanting to have gentoo-based distro without the need of compilation, but it's still an option.

>>57544895
>But it may be suitable for those wanting to have gentoo-based distro without the need of compilation,
Then what's the point? The only reason people use gentoo is because of the power of portage

Take away portage and why use gentoo?

CRUX masterrace

>>57537460
They do, but you need to generate matadata by yourself

>>57533015
>even i use a macbook not because i want to, but because they give you a work laptop so if anything breaks they have support/get a replacement
>being a peon and not a decision maker
how does it feel knowing that some macfag ascended the ranks higher than you?

>>57544752
from what i know there is no AV that will show you linux malware, even clamscan just scans for windows malware.
Also back in the day there were not only [gog] games on linux ,there were linux doom, quake, unreal games, old linux amnesia ports and so on.

I was a long time gentoo user. Because I am tired of taking half an hour to compile mesa and llvm, currently use slackware. I don' t have to compile everything yet I can easily recompile something and thanks to the experience of gentoo I know when something needs a rebuilt.

>>57544752
btw where can you get checksums for gog releases?

>>57535489
Use alsa.

>>57545213
I don't know of any central repositories, I can provide checksums of the gog releases I have on my PC so far though

(Also, the gog installer uses checksums to verify its own integrity internally, so a trivial change would just break the installer unless the attacker is sophisticated enough to update the installer checksums as well)

>>57531955
>install gentoo thread
>as secure as openBSD
The bsd shills are becoming very subtle.

Used Gentoo in the past but it broke after a systemD update. I use arch now.

>>57544891
qualify this statement

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<<< this guy slaps your gf's ass and asks her
>hey, does your bf even use KDE?
wat do?

>>57546130
I didn't use systemd. Everything seems to be working fine. I just need to figure out why audio isn't working.

>>57546154
did you `emerge pulseaudio`?

>>57546154
It's really dumb but did you check alsamixer to make sure it's not muted?

>>57533886
You made me kek this time.

>>57543758
I mean that's probably what's going on then.

How's Gentoo's documentation? I'm thinking about trying Gentoo o FreeBSD with very minimal ubuntu experience.

>>57545186
Whats are the cons to using slackware?

>>57531955
Ubuntu with i3 is comfy.

>>57546537
man portage

>>57546537
Gentoo has a very extensive wiki, similar to the arch wiki. Usually I go to both the gentoo wiki and the arch wiki for information. They're both pretty great.

Gentoo also has a long handbook and a lot of instructions for various more obscure stuff like hardening your system, using SElinux, and lots of resources for portage/ebuild developers

it's pretty decent I'd say

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>>57531955

>>57535184
>>57535197
made me want to install gentoo

>>57535489
I use plain ALSA and works like a charm. When I used pulseaudio it was horrible though, had to modify everything once in a while.

Reminder that pulseaudio is made by the same creator of systemd and is a sabotage too.

>>57535184
>With Arch everyone tells you that you're doing it wrong and to KISS and to fuck off because you're a skid
This so much. Fuck the arch community. Full of NEETs who never contribute and when they rarely do its in a condescending elitist way.

>>57543915

say what ? slackware is one of the most hardened OS's out there

i specifically remember seeing Snowden's NSA slides state that at the time (2012-2013) the cianiggers had expoits to pwn mint ubuntu and debian but were a bit chaffed because they were still locked out of slackware.

To me an ancient linux operating system based on the cult of subgenius maintained by a wizards securing it against the resources of a nation state is fucking impressive

>>57546955

Nice Kevinpost. Kevin.

>>57531955
Because it's literally a meme you dip.

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Because I upgraded to macOS.

>>57547065
Try switching between two outputs using pure ALSA. Hope you like logging out and back in every time you want to do that.

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>>57531968

/thread

>>57532735
switch to exherbo then ye dingdong

>>57547192
Try setting up your audio not to fuck with your browser without pure ALSA. Hope you like turning off and on your computer.

>>57547164
Thanks ebin friend.

>>57547175
do you know why its a meme

Quantum of Solus 007

>>57547147
>slackware
>literally a copy of pats hdd

>>57547319
Never had that problem with pulse and firefox.

>>57547192
Pretty easy to do actually, dunno why you would log out and log in.

Videogames. Wine is a pain in the ass.

>>57547847
It wasn't easy in 2013.

>>57547861
Yeah, it was.

>>57531968
fucking normie you probably dont even know what portage is you faggot

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I managed to get it installed, not really that hard and learned a lot, however, I fucked up the network configuration, guess because of how vmware handles the network system.

Anyone could help me out?

>>57546160
That requires systemd.

>>57546186
I checked, but when I start alsamixer, I can't change anything. It just says "This sound device does not have any controls.". I think I need to recompile my kernel or load a kernel module.

>>57548370
>not okarin@cern

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>>57531968

>>57546562
Like *BSD you don't need to compile lots of shit but it can be done easily if you want

>>57548499
>That requires systemd.
Your loss

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>>57548627

>>57548499
>That requires systemd.
no it doesn't. you use console kit and udev like the wiki says.
Worked fine when I used it but eventually dropped it for pure ALSA

You don't need to install runtime dependency since portage provides a way to pretend some packages are installed.

>>57548759
You can use pulseaudio without consolekit and udev. In fact it has almost no minimal dependencies

systemd helps a lot though because of user sessions and socket activation

systemd is so much work. I installed it a few months ago but I couldn't get some services running, so I rebooted to openrc.

>>57548859
>replacing your OS by a different ground-up reimplementation requires some amount of effort
who knew

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>>57531955
I'm too stupid to install it.