PC building general /Pcbg/ OP didn't copy the last thre

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/wbfzkT
Is this build any good? Will be using for gaymen because I'm a lonely manchild

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>>57511778
>/pol/ absolutely hates black people
>this meme was probably made by someone on /pol/
hmm...

>>57511778
>1998 was more than 20 years ago

>>57512215
Nigger go away

Dammit guys just tell me if my build is shit
>>57511844

>>57511778
Cheapest CPU for the rx 470/480?
I'm looking to upgrade next year anyway, so nothing expensive and overpowered please, I can deal with slightly reduced settings for a year.

>>57512324
I'm going to assume you will be playing low-mid range games until you get an upgrade. With an Rx 470 I'd get a Xeon e5450. It's quad core, 3ghz, and 50 dollars. Only downside is that you need an adapter for the motherboard

>>57511844
>450W power supply
>on a 1300 bucks system
>no word on quality, brand or certification on the PSU they include
Get a cheap case that does it's job and a separate PSU

Test

>>57512479
But muh portability and size

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cyffhq
Thoughts? Trying to avoid bottlenecks
Also, is the i5 Overkill? Could get an i3 for like 100$ and get a better MoBo or GPU
(mostly for gaming)

>>57512534
May want to get an i3 and a 470/1060 if you can

>>57512479
Also that's including a monitor, mouse, and keyboard. The system itself it barely over $1k

>>57512577
>>57511844
Still, he's obviously aiming for quality, a no-name 450W PSU he's not even sure what model it's too big of a risk.
I would understand standing cheap on case, RAM or monitor but that shit has the potential to fry the whole shit
You can get quality sleek cases for 30 bucks, get a 80+ bronze PSU with it, 550-600W should be more than enough even at full load and it should make up for the extra cost with additional efficiency in a few months

>>57512707
It's an Integra sfx bronze 80+ psu. I'll go with your recommendation, however.

>>57512707
Updated
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LDFNvV
Is this better? I'm getting a node 202 because muh LAN parties

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/DtVKcc
Any changes I should make? Mainly for gaming.

>>57513021
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/8tXrm8
Changes:
>Better cooler
>Got rid of meme motherboard
>Got rid of EVGA graphics card
>Got rid of meme case
>N E V E R go with evga psu
>Got rid of meme monitor (I have an Asus rog swift, I regret not getting this and saving $200)
Done. Not bad first draft, but don't fall for the meme.

>>57513100
Thanks for the advice on everything, except for the monitor. I never go with Acer, always have trouble with their products and customer service. The EVGA card was for the Step-Up program they offer for the 1080ti. I had really no idea what I was doing with PSU and Mobo, so thanks for that. Case too, desu plastics are ugly on it (phantom).

Build something comparable to this for hosting over 20 VMs natively
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VRNhKZ

>>57512773
No, don't go with SSD if you're keeping it as your main, because 240GB will go by quickly. Get a Seagate Barracuda HDD, it will be slower, but you'll get a reliable, quality hard drive with a terabyte of storage.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bpgMwV have some full retard

>>57513287
I'll get 2tb ssd later down the line

>>57513100
>meme case

I dont like the phantom but if anything, the define is the meme case around here

>>57513356
What about Enthoo Luxe?

>>57513381
not enough neckbeards with raging hardons for the enthoo luxe trying to look "mature"

>>57513381
well cases are really all about your personal preference. What do you kind of case do you want? Silent cases? Cases with big acrylic/glass side panels that show your hardware? Cases that focus on delivering maximum airflow?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/s68tQV
Going for a complete build under $1100, any changes y'all have to offer?

>>57513579
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/33ynd6
Same person, just updated to switch mobo

>>57513596
Get a 1060 and a 6300/6400
Get a small ssd for boot times
Literally anything but corsair and evga psu
Get OS on kinguin
Get sennheiser headphones and a modmic
Get a not meme case
And you're good!
My recommendation
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qgPpr7

>>57513889
>non fractal case

Nice to see the homogeny broken up

>>57513919
Fractals are expensive and corsair does make p good cases

>>57512534
>mostly for gaming
Get i3 then. Your overall build is ok, but don't expect much of it.

>>57513100
>>N E V E R go with evga psu
Are you retarded?

>>57514031
Care to explain why? The last two I've had have died on me

>>57512324
Get the i3 6100 with a Z170 mobo if you want OC potential later. Otherwise i3 6100 with B150 mobo

>>57512444
This is a retarded answer

>>57512534
Like the other poster said, i3 6100 + RX470 would be better. Also try to include an SSD

>>57513596
Drop cooler, get 4GB 470.
Get 240GB SSD

>>57513889
>Get a 1060 and a 6300/6400
Literally terrible advice

>>57512324
I'd go for an FX-6300 or 6350 if you're getting Windows 10. They're actually both pretty solid when games use all threads

>>57514083
As an FX6350 user, it's really not worth it at this point. Only way I'd build on AM3+ is with a used 83XX + mobo + RAM combo.

Some games still suck on FX CPUs, like Dishonored 2. There's really no reason to buy AM3+ considering an i3 6100 will get you similar perf and you have an upgrade path on a modern platform with DDR4

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I sold my desktop before moving to the UK and now I want to build one.

I'd like to not spend a lot but I also want something decent, so the two options I was thinking about were either buying a second hand 4770k 16gb RAM gtx 660 (gonna replace GPU obviously) for 500 pounds, or wait for black friday in 11 days and make a new 6600k build.

How are the Black Friday offers here on the UK? are they worth it waiting/buying them instead of 2nd hand? The second hand market here is shit and almost nonexistant I don't know why so it doesn't leave me much room to chose.

The other option was waiting until January for a 7600k build, but I rather not wait so long, also I would end up spending way too much if I do that...

I also have an SSD and HHD so I wouldn't have to buy these if I build a new desktop.

Any thoughts?

>>57514043
Because EVGA makes good PSU's. EVGA B series is good for budget builds, G2 for medium and P2 for high-end.
Most of the internal parts come from Super Flower and SeaSonic anyways, capacitors on the G2/P2 are all jap and all are nicely build.
Why wouldn't you buy a EVGA PSU?

>>57514076
>drop cooler
I thought Intel CPU's had horrible coolers, if any

>>57514132
That 4770K rig sounds pretty good for the price. Depends on the other components and whether you like the case

>>57514154
Stock is fine. The only ones that don't come with coolers are the K variants.

Intel CPUs are low wattage and easy to cool

>>57514113
[spoiler]Imagine how I feel on an FX-4200[/spoiler]

>Asus ROG Striker 2 Formula
>Intel Q8200
>Cooler Master Centurion
>Cooler Master R80 water cooler
Should I just sell this stuff or get some cheap shit and make a loonix machine?

>>57514199
Upgrade to 83XX if your mobo supports it and you'll have a great machine

>>57514201
Up to you. loonix if you need another rig for some reason, otherwise just sell it to get rid of shit you don't need

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Is it worth upgrading to gtx 1060 or r9 480 or my mobo/cpu will bottleneck them?

How is black Friday on Newegg? I want to buy things but have to wait for savings

>>57514535
Nope, you're good. At this point you might want to live with that 280x until the next GPUs come out

>>57514592
Yea thats what i thought, the new gpus should come in about year or 2 right?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VffTPs
How long will this build last me before I need to upgrade (besides HDD and SSD)

>>57514625
Probably 2H of 2017. AMD's Vega GPUs will have all the extra shit that the PS4 Pro got like that specialized upscaling technique. Kind of like the HD 7790 (released a few months after the PS4) got all the special stuff that the PS4 had, like the 8ACEs that were a change from GCN1.0 cards like the 7970/280x to the GCN1.1 cards like the 7790.

>>57514844
Personally I'd go for the 1080Ti for 1440p 144Hz. Hard to say about future hardware or engine support for high resolutions.. The PS4 Pro has some tricks up its sleeve, but it's a static design with a GPU far lower in power than a 1070. But in general I'd say that build will last about 3 - 4 years. A that point getting a new GPU will be very worth it for the rendering techniques / architecture and raw power

>>57514844
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VffTPs
Probably quite a while.
2-3 years, maybe more.

>>57514172
>That 4770K rig sounds pretty good for the price. Depends on the other components and whether you like the case
That's the thing, PSU for example is not listed, I hope is not something terrible that will burn my house down...

>>57514844
Depends on what you want from it. I have a 6 (will be 7 in 2017) year old PC (i7 870 + GTX460) and i see no reason to upgrade. I can run games like Skyrim, Total War, WoW, WoT, BF3, etc. on reasonable setting (mostly med-high) on a 1080p screen.
Your CPU should be fine more at least 4 years and your GPU for 2-3 years if you aim for high settings on 1080p. Concerning your overall build, i'd try to get some cheaper parts, see if you can find them and get a better mobo, but that's subjective.
You could get a R5 for that money and imho it's R5 >>> Enthoo Pro, also switch the NEX for a G2.

>time for upgrade
>have some legacy USB 2.0 devices
>get board with Intel USB controller because Intel is solid, right?
>plug in USB device, get bluescreen
>bluescreen in 2016
>google the problem
>only fix is to go back to Windows 7
Fuck you Intel, I hope you die from Zen.

>>57514421
Waiting to upgrade to Zen. Plus I have literally no income, so I can't upgrade to anything at all atm

http://en.yibada.com/articles/172786/20161111/amd-zen-amd-cpu-amd-x86-zen-amd-processor.htm

>>57515031
>if you aim for high settings on 1080p
He's getting a 1440p 144Hz display newbie

>>57515049
If you sell the 4200 and buy used the upgrade will only cost you about 70USD, and you'll have a really good CPU that will last you until the CPU market has settled down. You don't want to buy the first iteration of Zen, and Intel's response will take time fully materialize. They're already adding hyperthreading to at least one of their Pentiums and releasing an overclockable i3. Coffee Lake will have a consumer i7 that is six core with hyperthreading. Anyway you'll want to wait until all that settles down to get a new platform.

That 8350 (maybe not now, but at some point) is the smart choice especially for someone who needs to extremely careful with his money. They will be cheaper after the release of Zen, but not by much by then you will also get less for your 4200.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4s7NvV
Can someone help with my design? Trying to for a budget of $750 and make a gaming pc, but I exceeded it.

>>57512215
No they don't

>>57514956
>Personally I'd go for the 1080Ti for 1440p 144Hz
Should I get an EVGA GPU then? That way I could use the Step-Up program to get the 1080 Ti when it comes out.

>>57515184
Likely, but you have to make sure that you can go from a 1070 (you could start from a 1080) to a 1080Ti and that the 1080Ti actually releasing timeframe required by the program (3months?)

>>57512234
how's life in the future? has the world ended yet?

>>57511778
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
PC will be for school and moderate 1080p or 1440p gaymens. I'll be running multiple VMs.
Do I need an i7 or will an i5 suffice? I'd prefer an nVidia GPU, is there a reason to consider an AMD one?

>>57515409
Yeah, getting a 1080Ti would be a stupid move, the rest of my PC would bottleneck it. So now I just have to decide between 1070 and 1080, and also which company to get it from.

>>57515531
An OC'd i5 does not bottleneck a 1080Ti at 1440p.

>>57515707
It's rumored to have the power of a Titan X Pascal, I think it may be a bit of a bottleneck.

>>57515748
no it won't idiot

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Current components, want to buy new graphics card. I don't game that often but I want to be able to play modern games form time to time, what to buy?

>>57515152
The 8350 is a damn good CPU now that all threads are used, I'll give you that. Buddy of mine plays Witcher 3 with a heavily OC'd 8350 and SLI 980Ti's at 4k, and the game only uses around 30% of each core. Pretty fantastic, especially for a 3-4 year old chip.

I'll wait for Intel to retaliate, but I'm not waiting forever to upgrade. This chip was supposed to be a temporary thing, and it's bottlenecking me constantly

>>57516035
>it's bottlenecking me constantly
Exactly my point, m8. Just spend the 70 for an upgrade

>>57515959
If you have the money, 480 or 6GB 1060. Otherwise 470.

What's a good upgrade from a 980 Ti?

>>57516061
1070 or 1080

>>57516070
Isn't the 980 Ti the same as the 1070 though?

>>57516061
Nothing that currently out

>>57516070
No you retard

>>57516107
Yes

>>57511778

I'm buying a new PC, but a bit on the budget atm. Is it worth to get like Pentium cpu and some gtx1050 and standard RAM, but buy a good mobo, psu and case and just upgrade (with selling the old parts) as the time goes by?

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Looking for upgrade advice. Is there any reason to upgrade my cpu right now or will it be fine for a while longer? I'm mainly looking to upgrade my gpu, maybe just pick up a 1070?

>>57513100
Your case is meme-er and those monitors are the exact same thing with extra red paint. Evga PSUs are fine.

>>57513889
This is some of the worst advice here

>>57514956
Ps4 has APUs, not discrete CPUs and gpus, and upscaled 1080p isn't "a trick up their sleeve" it's false advertisement

>>57515036
>been using Intel motherboards for 63 years
>not a single problem with USB support
>USB 2
>"legacy"

>>57515748
No it won't idiot
The Titan isn't impressive it can't even saturate PCIe 2.0

Thoughts on the Define C? I was going to get the R5 because of the fan controller but I don't really need 5" drive bays.

>>57515748
You don't know what bottleneck means do you?

>>57516537
It's basically upscaled 1440p or better, and it looks pretty good. It's going to get mimicked in the PC world to help with high res.

I never said they weren't APUs, but the graphics architecture of the PS4 shares most of its features with GCN1.1

>>57516273
I'd save up a little and get something one or two notches above that. Then you'll have something actually decent and you don't have to worry about swapping and the losses associated with buying and reselling.

Pentium --> i3 6100
2GB 1050 --> 4GB 470

Basically you're looking at
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/ZhnQ7P
or
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/V9hMpg
In the latter build you can get a comparable mobo for about 80-90USD, just make sure it has all the ports you want. Can also save some money on the case.

>>57516292
CPU is definitely fine. I'd wait on upgrading the graphics card too. At 1080p 60Hz a 1070 is overkill

>>57516775
>upscaled 1440p masquerading as 4k running at less than 30fps on medium to low settings is pretty good

>>57516775
It's actually mostly upscaled 1080p, 4K gets left for menus, but Sony says "the upscaling is more than just stretching the image"
And like anon said, at 30fps, non-true 4K, a 1050ti could handle that

>>57516801
We'll see how it gets used. Devs haven't built any games from the early planning stages for the Pro

>>57516864
>a 1050ti could handle that
No it definitely could not.

need a case to fit this shit in

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JMWf8

looking at tempered glass side panels should I go with the In Win 303 or NZXT s340 Elite? Any other good glass side panel cases?

>>57511844
Buy your gpu on jet and use all the codes also you can buy Mobo and CPU from microcenter and get $30 off

donald trump has no room to talk about ANYONES hair not a single person on this ENTIRE planet

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>>57516924
Here's an ultra-4K benchmark
And that's true 4K also, PS4 can't even do this at 30fps

>>57517187
>people keep telling me to get the 1070 over the 1080
>every benchmark has the 1080 destroying it

>>57517187
That was the wrong benchmark, I'm having trouble finding the 4K 1050 ti benchmark I saw before, but basically with a few settings taken down (comparable to a ps4 I'm sure) it easily handles most games 4K at 30fps

>>57517244
Obviously the 1080 is more powerful...
The 1080 never has a $200 advantage over a 1070 though, that's the point.

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Hows this for a budget build?

>409W

>>57517275
god dammit im not getting the 1070 i just wont do it i wont i already know im going to be disappointed in it and have sever buyers remorse it would basically be a sidegrade from my 780

>>57517244
And as someone who got a 1070, overclocked it easily to 2.05GHz (the 1080 is stock at 2.1GHz), and with the same 8GB of ram, I really doubt I'm losing out on $200 of gameplay performance, my 1070 holds up at 1440p and I'm not going to insist that every single game I own runs at 1440p/144Hz on completely maxed settings (even though many games do with my 1070)

>>57517287
Also $609

>>57516996
Phanteks Enthoo Pro M. Acrylic has an entire side of transparent, but it makes it ugly.

>>57517310
The 1070 is good right now, the 1080 is good right now but the 1080 ti is a few months away, expected to be $800+ and is comparable to a Titan XP (a $1200 card btw)

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>>57517310
I should've gotten a 1080, with my 1070 playing doom, turning everything to ultra and the two "nightmare" graphics settings on, I only manage 80-100fps
Fucking garbage I should've gotten a 1080

>>57517329
so maybe i should wait and save more and check out the ti then

>>57517347
And that's only at 1440p ugh

>>57511844
get a better psu, the one thing you shouldn't skimp on.
Good build otherwise and something I would make if I was building one today (built mine in august and went with a fury)

>>57517358
1080 ti is gonna blow away the market, if it's really just a gimped-then-overclocked Titan XP GPU, it should be able to max games at 4K at 60fps. A single GPU that can do that under $1000, I really bet that's gonna begin a push towards 4k for monitor makers, maybe we'll start seeing over-60hz 4k screens now that it's possible to run that without selling your house

>>57517388
and even if its not everything it promises it will still push down the price of the 1080

>>57513889
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qgPpr7

On point. Overclock the fuck outta that i3

>>57513889
>get OS on kinguin

or just pirate it and save yourself the FBI ass reaming

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>>57517405
Yeah I totally believe you!

>>57517418
i mean its just common sense really it may not happen which would be a shame but itsa still better to wait i think my 780 isnt a complete chump yet

>>57515460
Anyone?

>>57517495
i5-6600K

>>57517187
The Pro has a much more powerful chip than a 1050Ti. It will always be better, no questions asked. The 1050Ti can beat the standard PS4 though.

>>57517287
Fucking sucks. You'll get better performance with an i3 6100 and you'll have a modern platform with an upgrade path and DDR4

If you want to buy 83XX + mobo + RAM used that's fine

>>57517507
Thank you

What kind of gaming mac should I get?

>>57517511
Don't listen to this faggot, the 8300 is on par with the 6100 most of the time and has more cores/threads so it will be better for long time usage.

Also

>buying used components

Fucking lol.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Erickazo99/saved/Cxq3CJ
Current build. Looking to upgrade my gpu first then my monitor to a 1440 144hz. Would a 1070 be enough for vidya gaymen at 1440 or a 1080?

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>>57517511
I made a bunch of builds, how about this one?

>>57517407
Not sure if trolling or stupid. The i3 can't OC on that board (or even most z170s).

>>57517495
I'd say i7

>>57517459
If you're at 1440p 144Hz right now, your 780 is pretty much useless tier. It's worse than a 970 which isn't good for 1440p. Passable for old games, but new games aren't going to run well. You'll be down to Medium or worse to get 45FPS

>>57517459
Well considering the 1080ti, if it's around $800, will literally make the Titan XP obsolete, it's a good chance the Titan will drop (but if the 1080ti exists, why would you still buy Titans?
But nvidias market plan is to never drop prices and a 1080 will already be $200+ cheaper than a 1080ti, so I doubt any card that isn't a direct competitor to a 1080ti would drop

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>>57517534
You are a complete retard

i3 6100 beats or matches the 8350. Literally no reason to waste money on an old platform with DDR3

Also there's nothing wrong with used components, particularly chips

>>57517543
well im not at 144Hz right now but i do plan to upgrade from the 780 the only question is when and to what

>>57517582
>le 8300 can't compete meme

https://youtu.be/nLkaNWo0EV0?t=1m41s

>>57517511
The pro basically has a 470-tier APU and a 8350 CPU
And less than 8GB of RAM/VRAM (the 8GB of ram is shared

>>57517538
See
>>57517314
It can do 1440p/60hz, and it can often do 1440p/144hz

>>57517582
why isnt the 6700k on that? why just the 6700?

>>57517634
It's an objective benchmark you dip, not a clock-waving contest

>>57517324
isn't acrylic just plexiglass and not real glass?

>>57517542
That one looks good. If you stick with the Z170 (it's only for overclocking and multiGPU) get 3000MHz RAM. If you know you're never going to OC you can get a B150 and save more money

>>57517601
They are about equal, retard. Even that video shows the i3 winning in most games.

Why the fuck would you pay more for an old platform with no upgrade path and housefire of a CPU? You are literally retarded, shut up

>>57517651
B150 is the one for fast mgpu lanes, z170 is really JUST for overclocking, I think H170 starts getting XMP support too, each platform has a specific feature

>>57517651
>Even that video shows the i3 winning in most games

Did we not watch the same video?

>>57517651
>Why the fuck would you pay more for an old platform with no upgrade path and housefire of a CPU? You are literally retarded, shut up
Because despite being older in architecture it can outperform the 6100 and costs about the same. I also don't have to give Nshitia any money.

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>>57517727
>Nvidia inside

>>57517595
If you haven't already just stick with what you have. High res doesn't have the hardware to support it yet. Soon you'll be able to run 1440p high Hz with a mid range GPU, and you'll be able to get a better monitor (HDR, adaptive sync) for cheaper

>>57517611
It's probably more like the unreleased RX 570 (Vega). See this post >>57514956

The CPU is Jaguar, which means that each core is its own thread. There is no multithreading inside a single core, and there are no modules. The 8350 has modules with two INT cores and one FP core. One module, two threads. The 8350's multithreading is called clustered multithreading.

tl;dr; 8350 is very different from the CPU side of the PS4 APU.

>>57517685
>B150 is the one for fast mgpu lanes
All Skylake mobos have fast PCIe lanes. You cannot multiGPU on a B150 because are aren't ENOUGH PCIe lanes

>z170 is really JUST for overclocking
Nope, it has those extra PCIe lanes for mGPU or other PCIe devices, like USB or PCIe SSD.

>I think H170 starts getting XMP support too
Incorrect. Only Z170 can use XMP. Yes your fast RAM can be used with lower chipsets if you enable XMP, but the RAM's EFFECTIVE speed is still 2133 unless you have a Z170.

>>57517699
You're probably looking at the synthetic bench scores, retard.

>>57517727
>Nshitia
>CPUs
Go home, you're drunk.

Do you literally not know what an upgrade path is? AM3+ IS A DEAD SOCKET. YOU WILL EVENTUALLY BE FORCED TO BUY A NEW PLATFORM AND SPEND MORE THAN IF YOU HAD BOUGHT AN i3 NOW AND UPGRADED THE CPU LATER

God damn you are stupid

>>57517727
Bruh you don't want to pay for nshittia's i3-6100? It's the best APU ever

>>57517802
Look up Intel 100-series chipsets bro instead of just guessing
Also PS4 pro makes less FLOPS and has less VRAM (usually) than a 470

>>57517802
My B150 motherboard supports 2800mhz XMP and I thought they have since the beginning? When I bought my B150 mobo it said I could use XMP with 2800mhz ram. I needed a bios update for my specific brand and model to be OC'ed but it definitely worked no problems, just like it said it would years ago

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/c8zDJV
Tried to make a decent PC, without peripherals and monitor it's less than $1,200. Any improvements I should make? I plan on adding another Terabyte in SSD form for $300 later, like a year. The build is for gaming.

>>57517802
3 of these 4 replies are flat-out wrong

>>57517867
Can you point out how? I don't really understand much of what he said, so explaining how he's wrong would help.

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>>57517839
>>57517855
You're both FUCKING WRONG. I have to around and around with idiots like you every fucking time.

There is ONE, I repeat ONE exception to the "all DDR4 runs at a 2133MHz EFFECTIVE speed on less than a Z170 chipset" RULE, and that is with certain ASROCK boards, but ASROCK won't even give you the VERY PARTICULAR, ISOLATED module part numbers because the sticks don't have the same controllers despite being the same part number, and therefore even amongst sticks of RAM with the SAME PN, some modules don't work. It is an extremely complicated exception. I can tell you more if you want to know more.

>>57515165
Assuming that you're being serious, I came up with this one: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xjhHRG
If you're not, the (You) get this one.

>>57517542
Doesn't the nitro card run super loud in im the mid 80c's? Fuck that. Xfx and MSI (gaming x). I also heard the gigabyte model runs wicked hot. At least the reference card keeps itself from overheating.

pls help, i feel like theres something wrong with it, im only doing vidya (im dumb with computers) ty
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BKVzkT

>>57517863
>shit meme mobo
>shit meme case
>EVGA HouseFire™
KEKTOP

>>57517883
At 1080p/60hz, a 470 or 480 or 1060(6GB is a better chip) will be good
At 1440p/60hz, or 1080p/144hz, a 1070 is more than enough
At 1440p/144Hz, a 1070 won't hold that up all the time, so a 1080 might be better there
With g-sync, you can get non-max fps and it'll still look good, so I got a 1440/144hz g sync monitor and get 70-110fps in AAA games, with g sync it just looks smooth no matter the fps
Freesync is fine too, but not a lot of AMD GpUs can hold up 1440p at high fps, 1080p/144hz/freesync is a good spot for a 480 or R9 Fury or whatever
At 4K/60hz, wait a few months for the 1080 ti

>>57517962
Get a cheaper case, 500-550W PSU, better GPU (Zotac, Palit, whatever), WD black is overpriced, get HGST 7K3000 or Toshiba P300.
If you're not going to OC, get H710/B150 mobo and i5-6500.

>>57517933
Gigabyte gaymen5 H170 mATX, Speccy shows 1200mhz like it should
Works on my machine, so to me this argument is finished. You're wrong, my gaymen motherboard is right
You can continue to argue with gigabyte if you desire

>>57517933
That's a very normal exception, happened to me too, just update your bios u scrub

>>57517956
500gb ssd seems somewhat overkill with a 1tb hard drive. WD Caviar blue is only $49 and is absolutely fine as a media storage drive. Case is overpriced.
>>57518029 is correct imo about the power supply if you aren't going to overclock. I personally like the asus dual cards, but yeah I'd rather have a zotac or MSI. I heard that the NEX units have poor reviews. Evga 650gq on sale for $70. Get that if you're overclocking. Rest seems fine.

>>57517962
Looks good

>>57518010
I don't see how this >>57518010 disagrees with this >>57517802 substantially

>At 1440p/144Hz, a 1070 won't hold that up all the time, so a 1080 might be better
A 1080 is usually only about 20% better than the 1070. Not worth the price. For 1440p 144Hz a 1080Ti would be better. Especially considering that someone who buys a 1440p 144Hz monitor is already spending a pretty penny. Why would you buy an expensive luxury item like that an NOT have the graphics horsepower to back it up?

Soon though, prices are going to come down for both the displays and the graphics cards that are powerful enough to drive them, especially considering the use of performance enhancing rendering techniques.

>>57518055
Post proof (not speccy). I'm truly interested, I would love to be wrong because I'd want to buy a board like that.

>>57518123
The BIOS update just allows the RAM to be used, but not at the full speed past 2133

I can see by your response that you didn't understand what I wrote

>>57518055
Only shows support for 2133MHz. You've been tricked, goy
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5490#sp

>>57518171
Because he's likely talking about "cheap" AMD high end cards and freesync not being up to 1440p demands.
Saying that the hardware isn't there is just wrong, it's just really expensive and on the other team
Like a said, a 1070 will be fine at 1440p (and at 1440p high hz with g sync)

>>57518231
>>57518055
Compare the spec sheet with the comparable mobo with a Z170 chipset. Shows support for OC RAM
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5498#sp

>>57518231
Go argue with them like I told you to

>>57518248
Like I said your problem is with gigabyte or Speccy/taskmanager/BIOS all saying that I have 2400mhz ram
Sorry it works on my machine

>>57518171
I got a 1070 and a 1440p144hz display, with everything on absolute maximum I get 70-110fps, on high or medium i usually get 144hz solid

>>57518171
>>57518283
Like maybe I don't have the "horsepower" for those last dozen fps on ultra settings but I have an extra $250 and that's good enough for me
Even if the 1080ti was an option right now, it's basically $400 to play 1440p60+fps or $800 to play 1440p120+fps
1080ti should be left for 4k, it's almost stupid to buy it for gaming on anything else when you can get the same 1440p performance for $200 less and similar 1440p performance for HALF the price

1080ti for 720p 300hz?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/c3Xc4C
Rate

>>57518240
The he you refer to is me, and no, I've never once suggested an AMD card for high res or high Hz.

Even on NVIDIA's side the 1070 (and by association the 1080) is weak on longevity or stellar performance on an expensive display like 1440p 144Hz

Doesn't matter which "team" has it, the current consumer technology sucks either because it lacks features or is just really fucking expensive even while lacking those features (HDR, adaptive sync, VA panel, etc.)

Kind of like the gimped, wired VR HMDs with shitty FOV and res. In another year or two all of that will be fixed and then it's time to drop your $500-800.

>>57518251
>>57518266
Again, you've been deceived. It runs, but not at 2400. If you think speccy is truth, how do you explain the fact that it can't recognize the correct amount of VRAM that cards have or whether they're in mGPU mode?

You have been deceived. I did consult Gigabyte, and the company itself says that RAM only runs at 2133 on an H170.

>>57518353
I get stellar performance though, I got an overkill hz display because it also had g sync. I have g sync for non-144hz games and 144hz when the game isn't demanding, I'd say I'm properly utilizing this display
I just think the "compromise" of the 1070 at 1440p is acceptable considering the next step up is an extra $250 (or $400+)

>>57518353
My dad has an HDR TV, with the very small amount of HDR content out there, it's noticable but honestly if it didn't have HDR I really wouldn't give a shit, it's nothing like those "NEXT GENERATION OF SCREENS" ads and comparisons would make you believe
I think a quality panel makes a bigger difference than HDR

>>57518413
If you have gsync, it's going to be smooth, yeah. But that's a stipulation particular to your case, not the general case. And the feature itself costs another $150 or so on top of a normal 1440p 144Hz display, which is already expensive

Good job on getting a Gsync monitor. That is an awesome feature that really improves the experience.

>>57518482
Since we're talking about high refresh rate monitors, the implication is gaming, and soon all games will be HDR

>>57517956
>my xfx reached 198 f the other day
I almost had a heart attack. Then again I got it super cheap used, almost 3 years ago.
Might be time to upgrade.

Is it true that 2x16gb RAM is less optimized than 4x8gb sticks?

>>57518340
6/10
Made some adjustments, you can OC the CPU to even more, a little pricier. Also CPU comes with cooler, but put a cheaper and quieter Noctua fan. New Mobo, and better Mobo. New case that's cheaper and nicer. New Ram that's also cheaper and nicer. New PSU. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vLRWf8

>>57518756
Also new GPU that has price data available, and is good.

>>57518491
I figure if I'm dropping half a high-end PC's worth of money on a screen, I might as well get one with all the features out right now, I don't want to have to buy another monitor ever again
>>57518746
On a quad channel platform like X99, yeah.
But in dual channel platforms like most consumer motherboards out today, 2 sticks is all you need to take advantage of dual channel
I never liked completely filling up all ram slots though, it's just less upgrade room

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>>57518731
>tfw my GTX 980 Tis never reached beyond 50 degrees celcius

>>57518756
Noice, gonna build that one.

>>57518780
>I don't want to have to buy another monitor ever again
Should have waited for HDR, for real though

will an i5-6600k bottleneck a 1080ti at 1440p/144hz

>>57518756
>$70 cooler for a 6700 non-K
>on a Z170 board at that
Just spend the extra $30 on a 6700k holy shit
And you could find a better $80 SSD but you'll have to dig a little bit, those MX300s are getting pushed from stores right now

Which aftermarket 1060 is best? And can someone tell me if this card is worth it?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487284

>>57518881
Ive seen HDR and I'm not impressed
At least not impressed enough to wait for any amount of time

would anyone like to suggest a build for me? got about £800 to spend. Could stretch to near a grand if need be.
Gonna be using it for mostly audio production (a lot of my VST's are RAM hoggers) a little video editing and i'd like the option to game every now and then. I'm not after a million FPS.

>>57518918
The 3GB 1060 has worse performance than the 6GB 1060 (like a worse GPU, not just less VRAM)
Compare what you're looking at to the cheapest 6GB 1060 and see how you feel price-wise
Brands don't matter too much, EVGA had issues with 1070s and 1080s recently but I haven't heard anything about evga 1060s. I got the cheapest video card retailer (gigabyte here) and haven't had a single problem with my 1070

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>>57518947
A medium-good CPU and lots of ram is literally all you need to power dozens of instances of even the heaviest VSTs. An SSD makes a noticable improvement to sample and VST loading too.
Really there's not a lot to do if you're just aiming for audio work

>>57518816
Awww, that's so cute. Also, that's an amazing achievement, but try turning on your pc.

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I know what the two 3.5in bays are, but what is that smaller bay for?

I am not particularly inclined towards this case either, I just want to know what that is for.

>>57518853
Someone pointed out to just get the K model. Do that, or you could just get the i5-6600k. Hyper threading isn't really popular for gaming, but it will be, so future proof yourself. (i7 is hyperthreaded, i5 is not, as far as 6600k$

>>57518947
The biggest next step would be the pick a GPU
You're no aiming for a million fps, but are you at 1080p/60hz or would you want a better screen eventually?
A 470 is pretty basic for 1080p, a 480/1060 is a solid choice for 1080p
You can't fit a 1070 in that budget so I'd say pick what monitor you're wanting then choose a GPU. It's really down to what fps and resolution you want for picking gaming gpus nowadays

>>57518992
Could be for a 3.5in floppy drive, maybe there are other uses like a fan control or card reader in that form factor.

>>57518905
Not really, but if you didn't but the i5 yet, get an i7-6400K. Hyperthreading is already seen to improve game performance, so future proof. It'll bottleneck if it were a 1080Ti SLI, it's a great CPU

>>57518992
Those are two 5.25" bays, the small one is a 3.5" bay and can hide a 3.5" drive or a 3.5" accessory like a card reader, extra USB ports, or a floppy drive

>>57519027
>i7-6400K
I'll assume you meant i7 6700K and let you off with a warning

>>57519026
>>57519034
feel like a fucking retard, thanks

I forgot that main bays are 5.25in, i've built a PC before too...

>>57519018
Or of course you could just run integrated graphics until you want to play a game, then go buy whatever will be on sale by then

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>>57518780
>>57518746
Sorry I ment to say 4 sticks is less optimized than 2 sticks

Aiming for 32gb or 16gb, dunno if I should get 2 sticks or 4

>>57519103
On a dual channel board 4 sticks is exactly as optimized as 2
I would go for 2, if you ever need more you can just pop some in instead of buying and selling and replacing all 4 sticks

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>>57511844

Looking for a new monitor and having a really tough time. I currently have a U2412HM. IPS, 60HZ 1080p. I'm curious about trying 144hz and a lower response time to see if there's a big difference. I'm also curious about GSYNC.

However, I really want to hang on to IPS and I really want to jump to a higher PPI monitor which is making me lean towards a U2515.

I guess my question is is 144HZ worth giving up IPS, and are the "holy trinity monitors" of 144HZ, 1440p, and IPS worth it or do they make compromises?

going for an ultra low-power build here, I am likely going to leave it running 24/7

would a 250w psu be sufficient, or should I get a 300w psu just to be safe?
I will be using only 8gb of ram too, and will likely be getting a different ssd/mobo, just used them for reference.

Also, would a micro-atx mini case be able to fit a nicer heatsink? I want it to be as quiet as possible.

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>>57519176
forgot pic

Just finished my mAtx build, somehow managed to cram a huge ass msi RX 470 in there, thing is sagging like jamal's pants when he comes to the door to pick up my wife. What do? Do you guys like prop it up or zip tie it or something? fuck

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>>57519131
If I get 2x8gb sticks, can I upgrade with another 2x16gb sticks of a different brand later down the track?

>>57518984
I'm replaying Crisis 3 at 1440p. Still not going past 57 degrees Celsius.

>>57519193
Get a 250, I'm pretty sure you won't OC a bit. A 300 would be great, leaves room for upgrade, like fans, SSD cards, and stuff. 250 if you won't upgrade. 300 if you will (though I'd get 1600 to be safe).

>>57519172
The compromise is to get 1440p/IPS/144Hz you have to give them 800 of your hard-earned dollars.
I got a PG278q (1440p, 144hz, g-sync, TN) refurbished for $500, the colors look great, much more accurate and distinguishable than on my TV, but not vibrant. It apparently has a higher color bit depth than most TN panels (10bit compared to 8 I think?)
I'm still completely happy I got this even though it's not IPS (which I've really never used outside of phones)

>>57519244
What is your setup!? My buddy's 980Ti is usually around 60+ Celcius.

>>57519244
>>57519269
My 1070 OC'ed to 2GHz gets above 60° with fan profile on "TURBO FANS", but it doesn't get above 65°
This is under my heaviest graphical games at high res/fps

>>57519269
Two GTX 980 Tis with EVGA Hybrid coolers.

>>57519027
I have an order in for the 6600k but I'm having some trouble with it and I might cancel the order.

Is it really worth going for the full 8 logical cores? The only games I plan to play currently are Dota 2, GTA V, Witcher 3, Metro Redux, Overwatch. I also don't want to have to upgrade for 3-4 years.

>>57519247
>300 if you will (though I'd get 1600 to be safe).

I also plan on having one of those slots that read sd cards, extra usb ports and all that, so I'll go with 300 then

what do you mean by 1600? I just did a quick search, I didn't even know they made PSUs like that.
Can you explain to a newfag how high watt psus work? If you buy one that can handle more wattage, is it always drawing more power or what?

I am doing this for when I move out from parents house, want to live as cheaply as possible and I have been able to give up gaming, so upgrading likely won't happen, besides a more quiet heatsink

>>57519285
>Google.com
>look up "*game of choice* hyperthreading support"

>>57519176
>>57519193
Build using the mini-ITX form factor

Also there are actual low power Skylake CPUs
http://ark.intel.com/products/88187
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5GC4YK5539&Tpk=6400t

>>57519231
Get cucked

>>57519237
Yes but make sure they're the same MHz

>>57519285
The unlocked i5 is fine/great

>>57519285
Yes, new games already see improvements from hyperthreading, and support for ht is becoming popular.

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>>57519330
What RAM brand would you recommend? Corsair seems premium but everyone acts like it's a meme

>>57519285
Generally people don't get an i7 for games, but for specific programs and encoding/exporting projects. It's why some call the 6600k the best "gaming CPU" because it kicks ass in single thread performance and it's $100 cheaper than the i7 (which is essentially just a 6600k with hyperthreading)
Hyperthreading is good for some games but most of them just rely on single-thread performance
If you get a 6600k now, in 3-4 years when 7700ks start getting a used market you can get that (also I believe a 7700k is the last CPU to use the LGA1551 sockets on skylake platforms now)

>>57519305
Oh don't worry, the 1600W was a joke. Yeah, go with the 300 to be safe, you'll probably never need it, and could suffice with 250, but it's always nice to have more. If the price difference is intimidating in the slightest, take the 250.

>>57519305
What is the purpose of the pc? If you just need a college computer, get a chromebook. You could browse 4chan on the go, and use the web as you please. You can also get Linux on it.

>>57519193
That's not ultra low power that's just budget
I think skylake has some "U" suffix CPUs that are ultra low power, Kaby Lake which will be out next year focuses on low-power CPUs, in this one and only one situation, it might be worth waiting for Kaby Lake

>>57519367
>>57519330
>tfw there is no way to tell tone over the internet

thanks guys, I really appreciate it! especially from the african american who mentioned low-power skylake, i had no idea those were even around

would shake dicks if this were IRL

>>57519359
The cheapest for the MHz you want
Nobody who sells ram actually makes ram anyways

>>57519359
I don't think the brand matters as long as it has a 3yr warranty. Get 3000MHz RAM if you get a Z170 mobo, otherwise get the cheapest

>>57519365
That's what I was planning to do. I'd rather use the $150 CAD more that the 6700k costs the 6600k on a better case and motherboard with better features.

What price for mobo? I was looking at the Asus Z-170A but I feel like I could go for something better.

>>57519390
What if he wants 4266mhz ram?
You never consider that when you meme 3000mhz as an end-all ram speed just because it's fairly cheap

>>57519409
If he knew he wanted that he wouldn't be asking. I just recommend price/perf unless there's some particular need

>>57519376
honestly i am posting this from a t430 with diconnected battery with ubuntu, connected to a 1080p ips and a wireless kb and mouse

i just wnt to feel speshul again, i miss the feel of a desktop

>>57519377
thanks, i definitely will, thanks again man i honestly stopped keeping track of this stuff a few years ago

also, what should I study in college? i have completely no bullshit free tuition for 8 years, only catch is that it has to be a public state school. I am the eligible recipient of three different programs (one state, two federal) due to unique situation

I am thinking of becoming a lawyer, but I don't know what to do with my bachelors

my goal is to work for 10 years or so then retire early, a=jack off all day. i don't want money, i just want to earn enough to put into a savings acc with decent interest and generate passive income, then WHACK It and smack it and spank that moneky

i am currently doing my first two years online for my associates, btw this is totally related to pc building

Help friends

1080p 60hz with a gtx 1060
1080p 144hz with a gtx 1070
1440p 60hz with a gtx 1070

Which would you guys go for if you want the most bang for your buck and prefer performance over graphics?

>>57519486
http://techbuyersguru.com/500-home-office-pc-build
You'll want this, budget pc

>>57519486
For college, frankly, you sound immature. How about don't waste your life masturbating, because you can instead make money, have girls jack you off instead as you spank your munnies

>>57519502
>1080p 60hz with a gtx 1060
That one. I'd get something better a couple years from now

>>57519502
1440p with 144Hz, or 1080 with 144Hz. Gotta get them frames.

>>57519554
I am more than ready now, but admittedly I enrolled myself into an online AS program as at that time I really wasn't ready. I also graduated high school a year early.

I have less than one year left now, and I have no idea what to study. I have no interest in programming, but the only things I know how to do (at least, marketable skills that could get me a job) are IT related.

What would you do if the african americans offered you a completely free ride through school? I'm currently not paying for my online school, I don't have to pay tuition for my bachelor's, and for graduate school not only is my tuition paid for me, but I also get a monthly living stipend.

What do?

>>57519626
Probably go to /r9k/, and ask them for help.

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>>57519657

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http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cFwsm8

will there be discount for the i5-6600k on black friday/cyber monday ?

>>57519749
Yeah
>was originally $437.64
>NOW ONLY $239.99
>47% off

>>57519786
>>57519749
Oh shit you're Canadian those aren't your prices
No it won't go on sale

>>57519749
>http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cFwsm8
>no HDD or SSD
It's a decent build, but where will you store everything? Also, 8gb ram for $100 is a bit ridiculous, might as well get 16GB DDR4.
Video card may need upgrade by next year.

>>57519836
the drives are just not listed. the ram is the fastest for 8 gb, 16 gb of ram is a meme

>Video card may need upgrade by next year.
lol

what happened to overclocking your ram?

Could you just take 2133-2400 ram and get it over to 3000?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VnthKZ

thoughts? also should i wait for black friday to buy parts?

>>57520139
Is that just for gaming? That's pretty whack if it is, absolutely no need for the X99 platform, thats a good first step

>>57520196
no, streaming and multimedia stuff as well

spent $100 leafdollars and used spare parts to build this for my roommate

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/C2kNvV

how'd i do

>>57520362
Do you suck his dick too?

>>57520362
Which ones are the spare parts?

>>57520454
And I swear if you spent 200 leafbucks for win 10 OEM when you could've dropped 30ish for kinguin win 7 OEM.

Also, i really hope that 60 GB HDD is spare too, because that's got to be a bretty bad buy for 60GB, unless that's how it is in maple land, then I dont even know man.

>>57520362
Proccessor and RAM are concerning, everything else looks decent

>>57520451
she's a she and i'm gay so no

>>57520454
i5, 212 evo, ssd, hdd, psu, random old case i have laying around are all spare parts

met this nice old man on kijii who sold me the gpu, mobo, and ram for $120

>>57520469
concerning?

>>57520463
i did actually pay for win 10, but i spend $11 leafdollars on an ebay key that activated fine

>>57520482
>>57520463
forgot to mention she's offering me $30 to help with it. the remaining $100 is an early xmas gift

Any way I can shave off maybe $100 or so? saw this and was told it was good for vidya, I'm looking to build a PC I can play overwatch on and trade during the day.

appreciated

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ny497h

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When will 1050ti's price drop down to 120 burgerbux?

>>57520570
i see no reason to get a z170 board if you aren't overclocking

see if you can get something with the same socket for less

>>57520588
I found this build elsewhere, I saw someone who wanted the same thing out of it and I thought it would be a good reference point.

Will the Mobo save me that much? unless there are other things to downgrade to save money I see no point

>>57520632
honestly, no, it's pretty barebones. there's not much to downgrade. you could get a smaller ssd and a non z170 motherboard and maybe save about $30 USD at most. if you really, really can't afford to spend the extra money, then don't, but that's pretty good. i suppose try looking for cheaper options of the same thing, as different brands sell for a bit less, but beyond that, there isn't much else to suggest

>>57520632
and you could probably get a shitbox case somewhere else if you don't care about how it looks, or reuse one. and maybe a cheaper PSU but still 80+ bronze at least

What type of performance could I expect if I had $900 to spend on a PC, keyboard, mouse, and monitor?

>>57520684
bretty gud. what kind of games are you aiming to play, more importantly?

>>57516775
I should've mentioned I'm planning on getting a new monitor as well, will be playing a lot of AAA titles in 1440, so from what I've seen a 1070 is pretty much exactly what I need right?

>>57520663
>>57520677
oh ok, thanks

>>57520693
GTA V, Skyrim, Fallout 4, Battlefield, the typical normie games. I've never really had a good gaming computer before. The best I've had was a laptop with an A8 APU so the only games I own on Steam are pretty low-end. I don't even have a desk or a chair right now but I see those as kinda optional. My friend wants me to buy a PS4 but I feel like I may regret it/I'd have more fun with a PC.

>>57520684
keep in mind, at that price range, your best bet is an rx 480 8gb

>>57520706
PC has more flexibility in the end though I would ultimately concede that PS4 is cheaper, though I'd still wait for the new Xbox instead of the PS4 or PS4 Pro

Having had shitty computers and consoles all my life, I can say I'm a lot happier on PC now that I have a rig that isn't made of garbage

Anyway, that rig should do you just fine. Again, look into cheaper options from different brands for the same product

>>57520706
Sorry, meant to link to the other anon's rig. Something like the stuff in http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ny497h

>>57520708
Why not a 1060 6gb?

What's the best server build that uses the least amount of power, has at least 4 ethernet ports, and at least four PCIe slots that have more than 2 lanes?

>>57520779
unless you plan to go multicard down the road, the 480 is your best bet since we can only expect more driver improvements from it
plus the 8gb helps """futureproof""" it a little

but, honestly, they're about the same. go for what your heart believes in

>>57520482
Okay, repost to PCpartpicker with the correct prices and not the blanked out/incorrect prices then.
Just augment it or split it up amongst each other, so I can actually see what you dropped cash on.

>>57520851
the only things i dropped cash on were the mobo, ram, and gpu though

>>57520851
>>57520870
oh and win 10 key off ebay

>>57519502
Frames for sure
144hz is a meme, one that I fell for.

>>57520684
http://techbuyersguru.com/750-budget-gaming-pc-build

>>57520870
>>57520875
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/CmRdxY

So this is what it actually looks like?

>>57520570
Why can't he just get a lower CPU and video card? It's obvious that those two alone are making him pay more than he wants to, what could he downgrade it to?

What place has the best Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales in Australia? Looking to pick up some new parts while they're cheap

Need a little help, I want to be able to push all the pixels around on a 3440x1440 display at the upmost settings (or just so it's future proof and I don't have to spend a shit load of money to upgrade after a year).

The system will also be pretty close to me on my desk so I want it to be as cool/quiet as possible. Is a 1070 and an i5 6600 my best bet for this use case?

1060/480 seem like they can handle decent settings on 3440x1440, but I'm guessing all the new shit that comes out in the next 3 years will force you to compromise pretty quickly.

I seem to constantly be debating between forking out a decent wad of cash for a good PC and waiting for newer shit to come out and prices to drop; never ending cycle, pls help

>>57521865
What games? Because at that resolution I'd tell you to use a 6700+ gtx 1080 normally. If you're talking about buying a gtx 1060, you really want a 21:9 1080p.
If you're an e-sports player, it might be different.
Also i5-6600 is terrible value. $20 for a measly 100mhz. 6500 or 6600k is where it's at.

>>57512215
/pol/ hates niggers, not black people

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>be me
>be ausfag
>pick parts easy
>local suppliers have 300% markup from what everyone here posts
>could import parts from amazon but I'm too old to deal with "return to china" level warranties
>about to buy gaming rig
>still don't find it hard to spend less than my wife, who bought a mac

>>57522016
Fellow ausfag here, have a solution. Aus Post recently opened a warehouse up in America, meaning you can make a 'myPost' account, link it to your address but then use the warehouse's American address when ordering all your shit.

So when all the companies are like, "FREE POSTAGE****" ... **** = only within the US - you now can take advantage of that (and all the American only deals on websites/amazon).

The catch is that the prices are: International shipping rates are A$22.95 per parcel, plus A$4.95 per 500g. (15% off until Christmas though).

It's pretty pricey $6 for 500g is a bit of a fucking rip off - but it is probably a lot cheaper than what most companies are charger for their own shipping to Aus.

Hope this helps
https://shopmate.auspost.com.au/

>>57521865
1070 or 1080 depending on your budget. With 1070 you'll have to drop settings down quicker than with 1080 but it'll still run fine for years.

>you're even considering 1060/480
Shoudn't've bought a fughuge display if you can't afford a good graphics card for it. If you buy either one of those two you'll have to drop down resolution or dial settings down to medium in year or two.

>i5 6600
Get 6600k if you're planning to overclock and 6500 otherwise. 6600 non-k has horrible value.

>>57522390
Haven't invested in the huge display yet, but if I get a 1070/1080 I might as well be actually utilising all the power that comes with it by pushing a fuck load of pixels. 34" curved, ultrawide display would be fucking amazing at 60fps. Might just get the 1070 and once Nvidia's inevitable new chips release I'll sell it and upgrade I guess (or AMD if they pull their weight).

i5 6600 was a typo, I meant 6500. But I think for future proofing it makes more sense to fork out an extra $30 or so for 6700k anyway.

>>57511778
Why should I get the 8gb RX 480 instead of the 4gb RX 480?

>>57522693
In future games will require more and more memory. At that point your 480 will be underpowered, but more ram means that you can still crank textures pretty high.

So if you want to strech your 480's lifetime as long as possible then the extra memory might be worth the price. But at that point you'll be considering a new graphics card anyways.

Quick question; I honestly don't have any idea what goes into building a computer so how hard would it be to simply buy the same parts as someone else and assemble them?

I've heard that building a computer is as simple as plugging in the right parts but I don't have the money to figure out what the right parts are.

>>57522876
What's your budget? I could come up with a list for you.

>tfw considering getting a 3gb gtx 1060 since it's impossible to find a 4gb rx 480

just kill me familia

>>57523520
Get an 8gb senpai

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I'm looking at MSI's 1060s, and I'm torn between the 3GB and 6GB models. From the benchmarks I'm looking at, there's not much difference between the two.

Would the 3GB model suffice for 1080p/60fps for the next two years or so? Or should I just go for the 6GB version?

>>57523681
The memory will help out with high quality textures. What's the price difference? If it's about $50 it's worth the upgrade, otherwise just fuck it off and upgrade once yours becomes outdated

>>57523681
Don't pick the 3GB model. Even some current games require more memory than that, and in 1-2 years you'll have to put texture quality to medium because you're running out of VRAM. 4GB is absolute minimum for any new graphics card at the moment.

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/tVg7vV

Someone please help me I have no fucking idea what I'm doing.

>>57524000
>http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/tVg7vV
nice trips. is this a new build? you should be getting the 6700k and z170 mobo with ddr4 instead. also get the hyper 212 evo instead of the 212x.

>>57524000
also get rid of that 5400 rpm hdd lmao, get a 7200 rpm one. only get 5400 rpm for cheap archival storage

Anything wrong with this?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/PRVVD8

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>>57524053
Yeah, first build ever. Won some money on Trump.
Why 6700k? It's marginally cheaper but the 4790k seems to have ultimately better performance. Obviously I could be wrong but I just wanna know your reasoning.

Thanks for the help!

>>57524103
Just get the s340 elite in white if you're already spending so much

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>>57512215
Everyone hates black people.

Is 1440p or Ultrawide just a meme?

I feel like Ultrawide is an amazing alternative for having two monitors but it means I have to fork out for a top of the line video card to be able to run it well.

Should I just stick with shitty 1080p monitors and kill myself because of the lack of sharpness?

is a 1070 enough for 1440p gaming on max settings???

>>57524568

Depends, if you're playing CS:GO then yes, but stuff like TW3 probably not.

>PCPartPicker
>Twice had the site tell me shit was compatible and they were not

To be honest I got lazy and didn't feel like reading and would have easily caught that my old Mobo only supports up to like 1666 frequency and not the 3200 that PC part picker said would work for sure. But then again this was so easy to catch the website should have fucking been able to pick up on it to begin with.

Second time was with size regarding Mobo and case and my large 1070. Not sure I can blame it for not being able to detect sizes I guess.

Regardless PCPartPicker is not 100% and you still should have someone look over your shit. Fuck.

>>57524568
There's two different 'types' of 1440p (Ultrawide 21:9) resolutions. There's 2560x1440, which is typically on sub 30" displays and generally more affordable. And there's 3440x1440 which is generally seen on 34"+ displays as the higher pixel density is useful given the extra physical display realestate.

Which one of these resolutions you are running is a major factor on how demanding a game might be on your video card, 2560x1440 obviously has less pixels so games will be easier to run, 3440x1440 will obviously take some more horse power.

*The following is referring to 3440x1440*
A 1060 can't run demanding titles like TW3 and GTAIV at pure ultra settings however, keeping everything ultra and maybe turning a couple of the less noticeable settings down can easily get you above 60 fps. Keep in mind, this is a 1060.

A 1070 can run (I'd say) nearly every demanding title at their highest settings with 60FPS+ easy, and worst case you might have to turn one or two settings down for less optimised games or as future games become more demanding.

*For 2560x1440*
1070 would run it fine, you'd probably be okay with a 1060 to be completely honest. I'd say a 1060 on 2560x1440 would run about the same as a 1070 on 3440x1440.

TL;DR
for 3440x1440:
1060 - struggle on ultra, would need to turn settings to medium/high for demanding titles
1070 - should perform well, might need to switch from ultra to very high/high for FUTURE demanding games; current should be fine
1080 - will perform more than fine for current titles and (I'd say) will even be able to last you 4 years of future demanding games

for 2560x1440
1060 - see the 1070 comment above
1070 - see the 1080 comment above
1080 - probably will last you 6 years of future demanding releases at this resolution

Source: benchmarks I've seen of these cards on those resolutions in conjunction with average trends in how demanding games become vs how redundant Nvidia cards become

What's the difference in power efficiency between gold, platinum, and titanium?

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>>57524809
I love you anon, you're a cool guy

>>57524962
ty, I'm interested to see how two rx 480's handle 3440x1440

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Qg97h
Rate my build

What is the RX 490s expected performance?

I hear it will run 16gb hbm2

>>57525057
nvm two rx 480's are like 300 watts under load, hot as fuck and noisy as fuck; and they don't scale in performance for gaming because no optimisation

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why cant I find 16:10 1920x1200 monitors with 120hz or 144hz

reeeeeee

>>57525243
because it's gaymer gimmick, and only professionals use 16:10 monitors.

I remember there was a deal for a samsung evo 1tb SSD last year's black friday for $100. Were those evo SSD ever that low or am I just imagining that? I swear I saw it posted here before, with link and all (didn't save since it was sold out).

Requesting:

The quietest, coolest ITX build that can house a GTX 1070 and an i5-6700k no problem - having inbuilt wifi/bluetooth on the motherboard would also be useful.

$1500 budget

>>57525254
Fine.

What card should I use if I want constant 60fps at 1920x1200 on new and future games with this build http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dFMsm8

requesting the website with the giant list of builds in rainbow descending order I forget what its called

>>57525361
logicalincrements.com?

>>57525361
nvm im dumb lel

Do I need to buy an aftermarket HSF? Especially if I don't plan on overclocking ? Can't I just use the small circular one that comes with the cpu.

>>57525337
>Requesting:
Fuck off.

>>57525337
i5-6600k you mean or i7-6700k?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/MMYsm8

Lad look at all the free shipping. Add an HDD storage drive if you want. Lower size of SSD if you want to save some bucks on that. I assume you have a monitor and keyboard/mouse

>>57525337
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/r9Zpr7
This is because I'm nice
Don't request in pcbg, build and ask for advice in the future
Faggot

>>57525428
You mean CPU cooler? You can use the stock one just fine, it is loud as hell but will keep your CPU within acceptable temperatures. If you don't feel like spending money now you can try the stock cooler and replace it later if you dislike the noise.

Can you guys give me some advice for this ITX build?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/zyPCD8

Is there any reason to put the PSU on the up side?
I've put it in the lower part of the case because it felt more more safe just in case the whole thing drops

>>57525873
I would check how big that case is, if you want to do liquid cooling.

>>57525873
Use the asus z170i as your mobo. The one you picked isn't that good for overclocking due to its lack of heatsinks on some vital components.

The corsair h100i costs $100 and is 240mm size. Better for the price than the x41. or Alternatively wait for the x52.

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I got rid of the monitor as I wasn't happy with the colours of a TN panel. Looking for a new one in the UK as my current is a small 60hz 19" 1080p.

>>57525902
Not water cooling per say, just one of the all in one CPU coolers so I don't have to fuck around with a huge air CPU cooler in a small form factor case (sort of copying this https://youtu.be/aVTuZYJ1wZo?t=323)
>>57525920
I'll switch the motherboard I guess, only planning to overclock once my components start to struggle with future releases.

240mm radiator (with fans attached) might be too close to the end of the video card in this case for my liking (see https://youtu.be/aVTuZYJ1wZo?t=323 as well). They're only using the 120mm or 140mm radiator and it's still cutting it close. Also is the cooler being used in that video the x41 or x42, and would I be better opting for something like the H90 instead?

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>>57526042
Here's the ncase m1 with a single fan watercooler idk what it is. It can also fit 240 quite well.
Google Images: Ncase m1 watercooled. Scroll a bit and you will see dual fans on the side.

The case is expensive but the nicest looking and the smallest (aside from the dan a4-sfx which doesn't do watercooling.

I suggest you also look into the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX if you want more space. Very similar to the Fractal Design Define Nano S.

>>57526129
Updated it, that case looks better and a bit more roomier as well; here's the current list http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NrNtQV

The only thing I'm worried about now is how close the video card is to the power supply. It has WAY more room in this Phanteks case compared to the Fractal case but by looking at (https://youtu.be/8t-ibmQ5kfE?t=338) it looks like it has only got about one centimetre of breathing room.

He's rocking an all in one video card cooler in his build so he doesn't comment on this issue, I doubt it would be that big of a problem right?

>>57526129
Is it just me, or is that thing tiny?

>>57526385
your thing is tiny

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>>57526352
If you get a blower style cooler card you should be fine.

>>57526385
This thing is even smaller at 7L

Made a new thread for you lads:

>>57526640
>>57526640
>>57526640

This one is way past bump limit.