Is it nostalgia, or has the world of technology really changed

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>>57501679
I feel like we haven't progressed much in the last 6 years since software has just become a bloated mess compared to what we had before.

>>57501679
When I was a kid I imagined that we would have a ton of AR shit, like glasses and navigation in cars. Driving cars are cool but no one seems to really care. Shit even VR headsets have been tried over and over but you basically only get things to look at or shitty simulators.

So yeah I feel you on that

>>57501679
>We may have connection speeds many times faster than even a decade ago, but there seems like far more junk data
I can get a movie in quality that would've blown my mind 15 years ago. It takes but a few minutes from me to download a 15-20GB file, it would've blown my mind back then. I remember being a kid and wanting to fuck around with Flash, the fucking installer was 70MB and all we had was dialup. To make it worse, the computer with the modem wasn't the one I planned to use it on and all I had were floppy disks to move the 70MB installer over. Now I can literally download 70MB in less than a second and have a 12TB home server. We've come a long way.

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>websites are becoming more bloated
>programs are becoming more bloated
>OSes are becoming more bloated
>phone OSes too
>laptops are sacrificing ports and functionality for thinness
>interfaces are becoming more bloated and >muh minimalism
>floorstanding speakers are being replaced with shitty speaker bars
>cars are becoming more bloated, too; more shit to break and less feedback for the driver
>fastest internet connections since ever, yet people go on facekike and instajew to post their tits
>everything is backdoored, even linux with systemd
>muih global warming, pay your carbon taxes goy

Bluetooth
>have to charge/change batteries daily/often
>added latency
>for headphones, shitty DACs

we are entering the dark ages

>>57501889
That doesn't matter to me. That's never what all this was about, at least not what it was about for me.

I always wanted the information. I got in to computers and the net at the tail end of the 'text-based' internet, but I remember the idea of trading text files still being a thing.

To my mind the improvement to speed wasn't a worthy trade for the movement to about 4 walled gardens. I guarantee you no one back then wanted this, no matter how much they try to convince themselves and others they did.

>>57502067
>hardware is becoming faster

still should avoid using scripting trash tier languages for production
>wirth's law

>>57501679
Buses and interconnects are still nowhere barely fast enough. Look at common storage devices for example. Take a 1GB file today vs 5 years ago.

Want to transfer it to something external? Good luck finding a USB3.1 stick that will get over 150MB/s. It's just not fast enough. The bus speed is fine but worthless if you have to get a fuck m.2 to USB3 enclosure to utilize it. I'm not even going to mention eSATA because it's a fucking joke.

Want to send it over the net? Just use that sweet Gigabit Ethernet that your ISP... aw fuck you could have a 10GigE card and it wouldn't matter cause fuck you(signed Comcast and every other major provider).


We dealt with 1GB files 5 years ago and we still deal with them. Only now we fuck with them(and larger ones) more frequently.

Web design has gone to shit. Pages consisting of just text, not even any tables or frames just text, for some ungodly reason use javascript. A fuck load of javascript/php/ruby9000(or whatever the kids are using now) rammed up your ass.

I'm on a desktop with a total power draw under 5watts. Full fucking desktop, signposting from chrome. That's incredible. Die shrinks are still happening.

Animations and visual effects are not a bad thing when done efficiently. The hardware optimization being done for them is already being applied to general data processing. Once we get systems in place to detect code that will benefit from(even if not optimized for) GPU/parallelization and offload it the GPU shits really going to take off.

Memory is still a big factor, the price needs to come down. People don't realize how much RAM there system is capable of using for caching. I might be biased on that one as I do some memory intensive stuff where RAM is the driving cost of the system/systems.

>>57502067
>>muih global warming, pay your carbon taxes goy

This one gets me. It also makes me a climate change denier out of spite. Let me explain:
Governments make a huge song and dance about how bad global warming is, yet they make no actual steps to enforce green alternatives. They haven't swapped Air Force 1 with Rail Force 1. They haven't heavily taxed large vehicles to put freight on the tracks, and get people on bikes rather than cars.

There's a million things that could be done, but they don't do a single one, because even they don't really believe it. Or they do believe it, and don't care, which is probably worse.

>>57502160
I hope I don't live to see combustion engines banned or self-driving cars mandatory.

>>57502122
>shits really going to take off.
I've heard that one before.

Spoilers: it wont.

There'll just be more shitty programming and bloat, so you might as well not have even bothered.

Power consumption is great now though. Something I can really get behind.

>>57502160
> They haven't swapped Air Force 1 with Rail Force 1.
One is quicker, easier to secure and defend and more versatile than the other. Hint: it isn't the train.

>They haven't heavily taxed large vehicles to put freight on the tracks,
Freight trains are not only the most efficient but also cheapest way to transport goods. It takes a bit of time to ship but I can assure you Trains are not leaving use any time soon. As for heavily taxing Semis, you'd just destroy every local economy that doesn't have access to rails.

>and get people on bikes rather than cars.
As for cars... People are fucking lazy and undisciplined. They need an alternative to lugging their shit and body mass around that is quick and cheap to fuel. Bikes don't cut it because they can't carry much and are slow.

>There's a million things that could be done,
Oh, you are one of those keyboard warriors that bitches about how the solution is so easy but can't comprehend why it hasn't been implemented yet. That might be due to your ignorance.
Oh, and any response that is a 'But X, Y and Z' you can keep to yourself until you address the flaws I've pointed out.

More power and more bandwidth means more shitty developers clogging it all up because efficiency is literally not a concern anymore.
Nobody bothers to think about it. At all.

I worked at a company where we had a "server" application that multiple client systems connected to. Literally all it did was handle RESTful requests and log them.
Took about 200MB of RAM after a days use. Shouldn't have been over 10MB.
Did anybody care? no, because it was less expensive to not care and "Well we just won't support systems with that little RAM then"

>>57502454
This pisses me off so much. In an ideal world all those single board computers that consume about 1w would be workable as a desktop. Even the Pi 1 had about the power of an average early XP machine, so what gives?

>>57502557
Pretty sure a Pi 1 was more like a Pentium II, I ran W98 back then, not XP.

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>>57502122
>I do some memory intensive stuff

Actually scratch that. I did(past tense) some memory intensive stuff. Just had to shut down the whole fucking farm. A/C system fried itself. Gonna take at least a day to get someone out to fix it. Oh well had a good three months of uptime(even stayed up during power outages).

Still one link connected to about 25 nodes offsite for data integrity but that doesn't really count, as I don't make money off those fuckers.

Unrelated question but does anyone know where I can get an A/C condenser fan motor at 3PM on a Sunday?... In religious shut it all down on Sunday bible belt hellhole Texas?

>>57502695
Just looked it up, and yeah, you're right. Despite the misleading MHz, it's far less powerful in real-world usage.

Still, my central point still stands since there hasn't been that much of an improvement. Not really.

It's not like the jump even from Win95 to Win10 was even half as major as, say, a C64 to an Amiga 1200. Or even BeOS that came a few years after.

>>57502210
The EU already has plans for the former, only the timeframe is still under debate. Might be as early as 2030.

>>57502781
Vanity, thy name is sysop.

>>57502781
love that one

content does not actually exist, and for each ((( website ))) there is some 30mb ad on it

fuck that

no, but really : users all suck and the internet was a mistake

>>57502210
>>57502834
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a31097/german-government-votes-to-ban-internal-combustion-engines-by-2030/

>>57502865
The internet was fine. The web is the mistake.

There was nothing wrong with Fidonet, or Usenet.

The future is here, it's just a little bit shit.

>>57501679
Widespread public Internet was a huge mistake.

The average person isn't capable of sorting through the amount of information they now have access to and they lack the critical thinking skills necessary to filter out sensationalist lies and blatant propaganda. Social media has also fooled them into thinking that their opinion is worth something.

>>57502790
It's always easiest to make large jumps early on in a technology's lifetime, because there's nothing there previously. What particular difference would you expect between W95 and W10? Other than supporting modern hardware and the APIs to run it, there really isn't much W10 could really do. It's an OS, its core purpose is to run other applications. As complex a task as that may be, in practical application, to a user, it's something very basic and simple. So yeah, W95 did it almost as well as W10 does it, because there's not much else to do.

>>57502071
>the movement to about 4 walled gardens
The internet is still largely free and unrestricted, just because some big players are in town doesn't mean that smaller, more private communities are verboten. What you're complaining about is basically people's behavior and not really about technology not delivering.

>>57502881
And by 2030, Germany will be a white minority country. They need to be glassed, along with the Middle East.

I think about how little it feels like the internet have changed in the last years. If I think back to in 2011 the only difference I feel is that websites designs have gotten more mobile friendly(read uglier) and torrenting faster. Loading webpages feels even slower now even though I have a ten times faster connection and better hardware.

>>57503069
I forgot to mention, the batteries for electric cars are 10000000000000000x worse for the environment than any fumes produced by engines. I really want every kike pushing and every moron who believes in the global warming meme to be exterminated.

>>57502557
Ever try to run XP on a Intel Atom? It's like trying to paint a portrait with a cats dick, while it's still attached to the cat.

Trying to run 7/8/fuck you/10 on one is even worse.

The Rpi runs on a reduced instruction set which works great for embedded shit. Fuck having 12 instructions that all do the same thing, pick the best one and fuck the rest(to death). Actually doesn't work that bad for non embedded shit either, if the code is available for recompiling(open source).

x86 is capable but it's old and packed with nonsense we cannot escape. It's like a Swiss army knife, and five of the fold outs are other Swiss army knifes.

Intel will eventually start to phase out older architecture components(and compatibility with older OS's) for performance reasons... and fuck you planned obsolescence reasons. But intel still could not design a capable GPU if their lives depended on it, which is rapidly becoming a very important/broad set of instructions that don't just encompass graphics.

The problem with reduced instruction sets is that sometimes you need very specific performance, and it's not always feasible(cost) to build an chip that targets just those instructions. You could go with a FPGA which is only cost effective(less that full blow fab your own ship) for small scales(low number of systems produced). For large scale operations just say fuck it and grab the Swiss army monster/what ever has the tools and deal with it.

AMD took an interest in ARM recently, even produced a chip I think. It was targeted at the server market if I remember correctly. Had pretty decent power draw which is very important for large scale server operations. I don't think much ever became of it but time will tell.

Wonder where all that innovation/performance crammed into Zen came from? It didn't happen over night. AMD may have left dozer frozen but they have been working on low/lower power APUs for years. ARM analysis/design might have helped zen.

>>57503005
>So yeah, W95 did it almost as well as W10 does it, because there's not much else to do.

Sure if you don't include SSE1/2/3/4/XOP/FMA4/CVT16/AVX support then year it did ALMOST about the same thing.

>Other than supporting modern hardware and the APIs to run it

So the only difference is the entire structure of the function it was designed to do, minus UI(which was also changed).

Can we stop shitting on operating systems and just blame JAVA, I feel like this is their fault. Who though running everything in a VM was a good idea? Someone shoot him.

I hate current tech and normiebook and all apps on the smartphones. I guess I got old.

>>57503307
Properly designed Java is one of the fastest programming languages around though, pretty much only C/C++ can beat it.

>>57503118
I'm actually kind of interested to see where ARM goes. I don't think it will be "good" but it could very well be interesting.

>>57503352
I also hate the smartphones themselves ofc I must add.

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>>57502781

>>57501679
What could you possibly mean? The future is really bright! We've got 1080p virtual reality porn and everyone is shilling solus or gentoo.

>>57501812
I jerked off in VR a while back. After I blew my load and came back to my senses I started looking around. Suddenly found myself in a very nice house, admiring the large foyer. Place was a mansion. I wanted to go check out the kitchen but couldn't as this was not a game where you can just walk around, plus this virtual bitch was still riding my dick. Then I looks backwards and down, the "actor"/"avatar" that was supposed to be me had no face. Literally just a black whole where the head should have been. They cut out the guys face so you wouldn't see it and lose your boner if you turned around. That brought me back to reality very quickly.

Still the immersion after i blew my load was incredible. You don't have to be in VR to open your eyes after blowing your load and wonder where the fuck you are, but it's certainly one of the more positive places I've experienced that feeling. And trust me I've blow my load and had to reorient myself quite a few times. Usually not looking for kitchen.

>>57501889
I remember flash. Shit I remember director. Flash was actually pretty awesome for what it was. I made some cool shit in flash. But I still did my best to kill that evil adobe spawn. It still haunts me, as if one day flash will come back. We'll relive the good old days then all the security holds and closed source fuckery that came with it will bring about an evil AI which kills us all. Getting rid of flash was like having to kill your dog cause it bit several people... every Thursday...

>>57502067
>added latency
Not with the Apple W1™ chip

>>57502071
I used to read the First amendment every day.

We had it posted at the entrance to our BBS, then forum. Then one day the forum died.

Look whats become of us. None of these site care about that shit. They'd sell your kidney for advertising revenue if they could. And 4chan is full of evil retarded 9 year old. Sure our BBS's were full of evil retarded 9 year olds too, but we did it for the knowledge. We weren't all edgy/meme about it either. But on second thought I would probably have a few less felonies on my record if I didn't have access to that shit.

>>57502112
Oh let me just put down the python and pick up assembly.

I know that sounded sarcastic but seriously learn a little assembly, you might even like it.

>>57503114
Suck that oil dick brah.

>>57502067
>facekike and instajew to post their tits
Leave the publicly listed tits out of this one, you'll need an easy target eventually.

>>57502067
>software is becoming heavy
>hardware is becoming lighter
Why can't it be the other way around?

>>57502160
Nuclear is greener AND cheaper than solar/wind. Are we building nuclear plants? Fuck no, roll that coal, invade another shitistan. Cause Nuclear is scary.

>Rail Force 1
Oh god your killing me

But seriously we need to invade Turkmenistan. Have you been paying attention to their leader? The nigga bought aluminum tubes! Do I need to tell you what the fuck you can do with an aluminum tube!?! ALUMINUM!!

>>57502834
I don't know about you but there is no fucking way I'm going to make it to 2030. Plus I don't live in the EU.

>>57502434
>As for heavily taxing Semis, you'd just destroy every local economy that doesn't have access to rails.

The truck driver would strike far before the local economy is effected. Why do you think the price of diesel is where it is?

If software wasn't bloated to shit we'd see a revolution.
That would, however, involve people learning proper languages and having to solve problems on their own, not just using whatever library stack exchange tells them to.
This would mean 95%+ of current "Programmers" would be useless.

This isn't everything but it'd do a hell of a lot.

>>57504121
*drivers

Wait why the fuck are we even talking about those kind of drivers on /g/. Who the fuck is stearing this shit away from what is obviously Java's fault.

>>57504140
This is why I want ARM desktops to take off.

I don't even care about the massive drop in performance, I just want these shitty developers to have to stay within stringent constraints.

>>57501679
AMD Zen will bring the Great MMIO Unification of CPU and GPU and will forever change the way we design software. provided that we'll be actually designing it.

>>57501679
I feel like around 2005 was the time when my computer was actually at its "fastest".

My current PC is fairly monstrous but various factors make using it a sluggish experience (notably the need to run firefox because Chromium devs disabled directwrite).

>>57503389
I already voted(for that bitch as a last resort) and she lost. I'm still down condenser fan motor. Sure if Bernie won things would be all sunshine and rainbows but that didn't happen. Trump won, so now I have to go all John Wick on the unit on the other side of the building. Possibly on one belonging to another building cause apparently Jesus wants our servers to rest one day a week. After typing that out I do see how this is kind of republicans fault. Didn't quite make the connection at first. I can't even say fuck it, give up and get drunk. This place is dry on Sunday for 1,000 miles.

>>57502865
>content does not actually exist, and for each ((( website ))) there is some 30mb ad on it

Which is of course required to load before the nonexistent content itself.

>>57504782
This. The faster computers get the more bloat garbageware gets shoved onto it to eat up any gains.

Idea for a site

>anonymous imageboard
>maximum file size 50kb
>gif disabled
>embeds disabled
>archive disabled
>good experienced mods

It will be a small site because most normalfags will not be entertained under these limitations, but for those of us who actually enjoyed chatting and contributing it should be very good. And with such low bandwidth costs the site should be run-able as a pure vanity site, paid for by the owner.

>>57502947
If we keep trying to fix that little shitty part it's going to turn into a little bloody part.

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>>57502962
>The average person isn't capable of sorting through the amount of information they now have access to and they lack the critical thinking skills necessary to filter out sensationalist lies and blatant propaganda.

Just like newspapers.

various things are better, various things are worse

it seems like software and content (such as web sites) are going backwards, probably just because they can get away with it

older software doing the same things run blazing fast on new hardware

>>57504836
Might as well just make a BBS/text-board at that point.

>>57504836
just ban mobile user agents, that'll keep out the normie phone shitposters

>>57503684
You're so lucky this is a blue board.

>>57503356
>Properly designed Java

I've seen a good bit of that. I've also seen a good bit of not so properly designed java. When it's bad it's bad.

>>57504860
memes are too fun, and 50kb is enough for memes

>>57504716
I hope it will but I know it won't.

>>57504844
I was going for pro fags, anti-drug war, anti non-nuclear war(regular war is a fucking money pit we can't afford).

Both candidates were pro endless regular war/pro drug war. So I went with the pro fag candidate. A man sucking cock legally only came to Texas in 2003. Seriously I'm not talking about marriage, gay BJ's were illegal in Texas until 2003.

>>57504850
No one writes web sites anymore. These fucks don't know any HTML. They just use some shitty template. Or Dreamweaver/Frontpage/What ever the new cool let retards design web pages tool is.

>>57501679
>Is it nostalgia, or has the world of technology really changed for the worse?
No.
10 years ago you weren't forced to use allow javascript to view a good portion of websites
10 years ago major companies' websites didn't double as CPU benchmarks because of the ridiculous amounts of javascript (http://www.charter.net is an example of this)
10 years ago the thought of needing multiple cores for a web browser was ridiculous
10 years ago devices weren't as locked down as they are today
10 years ago it wasn't acceptable for major OSes to datamine your device (be it a desktop or a modern mobile device)
10 years ago major manufacturers weren't putting DRM in the BIOS of computers to keep you from upgrading certain components so that you had to buy a new computer if you want certain functionality

As things become less expensive and more mainstream they get turned to shit by the greed of corporations and the average person who either isn't knowledgeable enough to know that they are getting fucked or who just doesn't care that they're being fucked.

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>Does any one else look at the current state of technology and have a feeling that it didn't live up to the promises that it made you?
You're just not looking at the whole picture. Technology has been advanced a massive amount. Tech 10 years old can't keep up with tech from today. Considering that it took us millions of years to even invent spear tips, tech has advanced and an horrifyingly fast rate.

We are on course to reach the tech singularity and be replaced by machines around 2050.

So enjoy the life you currently have right now, mouthbreather. For it will all soon come to an end for everyone.

>>57506326
lol, the japs already made it possible to turn any human cell back into stem cells.
they're going to have androids far sooner than 2050 bub

>>57503590
Fruit shill

>>57501679
It's very simple.
Not reading the whole thread but I a'ready see the problem with in the first scroll of posts.

Normies took the internet over. Just look at /g/ and how many cancer threads we have now. Smartphone generals being the big one. Honestly surprised we don't have mac threads more often.

just give me back ibm thinkpads

>>57509345
I never like to get on the "I blame the normies" but, well, I blame the normies.

If you watch the BBS Documentary then all the people from the BBSs complain about the internet using all the same language as us. And I don't think we're so different. There's really not that much that separates 4chan from a BBS.

>>57501679
>Numbers may be getting bigger, but there's more demand from this, with less being done for all of that. We may have connection speeds many times faster than even a decade ago, but there seems like far more junk data.
Jevons paradox

>>57509541
This is why I want a massive leap to shitty ARM computers. I don't care that I have to wait twice as long for things, or I have to close every other program to play a video. I just want shitty programmers to be homeless.

>>57509533
post 2007 4chan is fundamentally different

>>57509724
A lot of things a different after 2007.

>>57509754
For 4chan the Scientology raids really marks the change.

But a lot of stuff online had big changes towards the later 2000s. Myspace getting big etc.

>>57501745
Actually we haven't progressed much in the last 40 years.

>>57502962
So what? I am capable. You are capable. We are capable.

They don't even factor into the equation.

>>57501679
>Does any one else look at the current state of technology and have a feeling that it didn't live up to the promises that it made you?

Outside of electronics, yes.

Communication and computation hardware advances were amazing, but they're drying up now too (Where's my consumer-priced, general purpose 1024 core CPU?).

Most great ideas in software were invented back in the 60s and 70s. Since then we've being just popularizing, reinventing or even regressing.

Outside computers, things have not changed too much. Economically we're worse than in the 70s.


See Peter Thiel for more about this.

>>57510745
>Communication and computation hardware advances were amazing

I don't think they were. As has been said, in increasing the capabilities we just filled the demand for them, requiring even further expansion.

>>57505120
You have to go back.

>>57510279
The thing is, capability is only half the story.

The other half is how suited the medium is for that capability.

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>I can see why I hear of so many people going back to things like BBS, Usenet, and Gopher. It's small, yes, but it also makes so promises it can't deliver on.

A lot of that has to do with SBCs like the Pi. They can't even hope to run the web these days (says more about the web than the hardware), and people have to do something with them, so they end up exploring this. Which is fine by me. I've always been a strong believer in computers being at their best when dealing with text because there's no break in the input and the output.

I've never understood the people who game or watch movies or series on a computer. being sat at a desk is probably the least relaxing way to watch something or play something, and if you're on a laptop what's even the point of trying to watch a movie on a tiny screen?

>>57504848
>Just like newspapers

On average, newspapers are much higher quality than the garbage people read on the Internet. Plus there's so much information available that people tend to go from sensationalist headline to sensationalist headline without reading a full story.

Buy a toughbook and use non-mainstream sites.

More useful than a monthly "wahh I want to go back to 2004 when I was happy" thread.

>>57510745
>Where's my consumer-priced, general purpose 1024 core CPU?
Such a thing doesn't exist because it's pointless numbers-masturbation that accomplishes nothing for a use case where the benefits of embarrassing parallelism are less than apparent.

>Most great ideas in software were invented back in the 60s and 70s. Since then we've being just popularizing, reinventing or even regressing.
A lot of modern software and hardware concepts may have been around since the 1960s and beyond, but you're neglecting to mention that most of them were the domain of mainframes for decades, and out of reach of common consumers until relatively recently.

Don't be bitter about that, be bitter about the future trending towards unexciting, bland, locked-down do-it-all appliances and everyone living in sterile, empty homes straight out of an Ikea furniture catalog.

>>57502160
thats a stupid reason.

a better reason is the fact that we give up our lifestyl;es and suffer carbon taxes and overegulation, while places like china, who have NO rules at all, get a free pass when they put out more pollution in a month than we do in a year, and you cant touch them because they cling to the "MUH DEVELOPING COUNTRY" meme, and it's bullshit, because we are basically sacrificing our economy almost exclusively to their benefit

>>57504048
what do we do with spent nuclear fuel though? not to mention the worst case scenario situations are far worse than other types of generation

>>57514915
We should just carpet bomb developing countries. They've had enough time to develop. If they haven't by now they aren't going to.

>>57504836
Could be a fun idea, an imageboard is easy to put up with a script anyway. Mods would definitely be needed though, to prevent very illegal pictures from being posted.

Consumer PC/Mac hardware isn't as fun as it used to be. Once you get into more obscure or older tech, the magic is still there. Amateur radio has heaps of exciting things going on in recent years.

>>57503684
He's not wrong though. Heavy metal batteries in hybrid and electric vehicles are a looming natural disaster. There are still limited means to dispose and recycle the material safely and unlike nuclear fission waste the volume of this caustic junk is huge. We're talking a hundred pounds of it per vehicle.

I'm an environmental engineer with a focus on sustainable transit and to be honest we do not have any good answers for individual motive systems right now. Battery technology needs to move into more environmentally friendly direction very quickly before some of these mandates for electric and hybrid reach maturity or we will have a major disaster on our hands.

If you recall the acid rain and toxic waste spill problems in the 1970s: it's going to be like that but 100x worse since governments are going to have every motive to cover it up along with industry instead of help to point it out and clean up like the young environmental protection programs did.

So while I sympathize with hating the loathsome fossil fuel industry, I don't think green science and particularly activists for green technological revolution are thinking this through. We're trying to push a paradigm shift and we need all the tools necessary to form a sustainable foundation. Moving forward without half those tools ready is inviting a disaster and a reaction that might condemn the green movement for generations.

>>57505120
>anti non-nuclear war
>hillary
I guess you thought the no-fly-zone in Russian-flown airspace over Syria was just a joke?

>>57514974
Or we could just stop giving away our economies to them and their populations.

>>57505142
SquareSpace(tm)

>>57504836
that's actually not a bad idea, I would get behind this

>>57516853
Yeah

>>57509754
Why 2007? Vista? iPhone? Facebook? "Web 2.0"? What else happened/started then which ended up fucking up technology and the world along with it?

>>57513244
>On average, newspapers are much higher quality than the garbage people read on the Internet.
lol

>>57519311
That's not even arguable. Most people barely read anything other than Facebook posts by their dumbass friends.

>>57520255
Wikileaks made it onto Facebook, despite their attempts to quash it. None of the big papers covered it much at all. Which is no surprise given prominent journalists were exposed as colluding with the DNC.

>>57517087
Like >>57504836 said it would be cheap to run with a low image size limit. Some cheap ass vps would probably be more than enough.

>>57521008
They are $9 a year.

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>>57501679
Tech is becoming better for normies and worse for people like those who hangout on /g/.

This is due to the widespread adoption of technology by everyone in society. What is sold is the least common denominator in order to capture the widest array of sales, and offer something that either side can compromise on and purchase.

There is no money in creating niche products or software for us, and people can't afford to do anything for free with rising costs of living globally.

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>>57503118
Triggered Intel shill detected.