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>install BSD >PC boots faster >software runs faster

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>install BSD
>PC boots faster
>software runs faster
>no crashes
>don't have to GPL-lock my code

How people waste time on Arch and Debian when they could get a genuinely free OS in BSD is beyond me
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>i should have the freedom to infringe on others freedoms

>slavery is ok when i do it

t. BSD/MIT/ZLIB/etc license user
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>>57483120
>BSD boots faster
Lol no?
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>>57483120
Are you running BSD? Care to post your screenfetch -s, OP?
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>>57483150
>making money from my work infringes on freedom

Do communists really believe this or is it a meme?

>>57483165
BSD boots 15 seconds faster than Ubuntu on my machines
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>>57483120
Funny how even BSD will be slower than Solus.

It's 3x faster than Ubuntu at least, which is faster than BSD.
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>>57483177
GPL is perfectly usable for commercial purposes. It only restricts your ability to restrict other people.

It is essentialy outlawing slavery.
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>>57483177
My BSD VM doesn't even get to desktop while my Arch VM gets to desktop thanks to systemd.

Also BSD has SHIT hardware support
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>>57483120
It's like building a castle out of sand, and the BSD castle gets destroyed by some brat in the neighborhood, and the GPL castle is invincible, and the brat can't bring it down, they can only build a similar castle.
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>>57483193
>GPL is perfectly usable for commercial purposes
That's why Apple, Sony, and Netflix use BSD, right?

>>57483179
K E V I N
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>>57483177
>BSD boots 15 seconds faster than Ubuntu on my machines
>Ubuntu
Literally anything will boot faster than the bloated piece of shit called Ubuntu
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>>57483214
They use it because of its cuck license so they have nothing to give back, idiot
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Please stop using BSD as your shitpost fuel.
BSD threads used to be fairly nice and they're very quickly going to shit because of your dumb "my dad can beat up your dad" shit.
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>>57483120
good for you, now fuck off
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>>57483228
He's lying. Facts to know:
1. OP doesn't use BSD
2. Linux boot up speed is FUCKTON faster than any hippie BSD garbage ever dream of

Webm related, BSDcuckolds getting BTFO with god tier boot up
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>>57483230
I use BSD daily, the shit always comes from the Marx crowd:
>>57483229
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>>57483177
>15 seconds faster.

Faster than how fucking long nigger, Windows only takes about 7 seconds to cold boot on my machine.
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>>57483260
Post your desktop with uname -a
NO CLEANING
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>>57483257
how do
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>>57483267
By installing Linux only technology
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>>57483257
>>>/v/
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>>57483283
>t. butthurt BSD NEET
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>>57483264
He will not post this, he's just a mactoddler
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>>57483267
buy an SSD
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>>57483290
I'm using GNU+Linux you fucking retard

cd /
ls
bin boot dev etc home lib lib64 lost+found mnt opt proc root run sbin srv sys tmp usr var
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>>57483314
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>>57483168
>bash
no
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Sigh, all those gpl fags itt...

Imo BSD > GPL.

FSF is so turnt on their "goal", they purpously design their stuff so that people are forced into gpl. For example read up their article on library licensing - it basically says
> Making something unique?
> Use GPL to force people* into the trap that GPL is
> Making something that's already been done in BSD?
> Use LGPL. People* wont use GPL if there is BSD alternative, so don't bother.
(*people == closed source/proprietary fags)

Forcing freedom is not a good way to go. If all the software was free, we'd live in a happy world where there'd be no practical distinction between gpl and bsd. Unfortunately that is not true. There always will be proprietary software, and gnu just forces you to join their stupid ecosystem of free software, completely cutting you off from the proprietary. As a matter of fact, gpl ideology pisses off companies that are considering going opensource, because it forces them to either join a sect, or to employ dual licensing. The only requirement for BSD is adding COPYING file to your distribution, whereas GNU tells you to provide the source with the binaries, oh and also make sure that all of the part of your application are in the GNU ecosystem, or else you're breaking your own license.

Think about it this way. If I license my code with GPL, I am sharing it only with a group of GNU neckbeards. If I license under BSD, I share my code with everyone, unconditionally. GPL is like christianity - god says he loves everyone, but if you're not christian, you go to hell.

I don't beleive in god, and I hate everyone equally, so I'm a BSD-fag.
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>>57483177
if its taking 15s more too boot something is wrong. My 5y old laptop with 5400rpm hdd boots in 14s. So either bsd boots in negative time or you cant configure linux.
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>>57483150
>i should have the freedom to infringe on others freedoms
t. Richard Stallman as explicitly stated in the GPL: he takes away freedom
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BSD licence is communist, GPL licence is socialist/fascist.
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>>57483294
Then he use bash.
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>>57483680
> There always will be proprietary software
incorrect, proprietary software is just a sign of the times, it will not last

also there is no reason to use a BSD license unless you wish to welcome proprietary abuse into your project

>>57485569
incorrect, BSD license is anarchy, GPL is capitalist
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>PC boots faster
>software runs faster
How? Anon in this day and age that shit isn't even factors. What software do you run and what's your boot time.
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>>57483262
anon, that's not a cold boot. I guarantee you.
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>>57483179
Hey kevin, can I have your space wallpaper?
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>>57485729
>also there is no reason to use a BSD license unless you wish to welcome proprietary abuse into your project

The whole point of BSD is to give away your software to anybody for any use. There's no such thing as "proprietary abuse" with BSD, because by choosing BSD, you implicitly allow proprietary use. With GPL, on the other hand, you disallow it.
If, however, by abuse you mean "companies not including license/copyrights", then I'll have you know, that this happens to both BSD and GPL projects. Really, the only difference is that GNU tards are more likely to hire lawyers and shit, because of their anti-proprietary ideology. One such project that comes to mind is ScummVM (GPL).
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>>57483177
u no show systemd-analyze blame? No one cares about BSD tho.
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>>57483497
actually the comma is optional, dependent on how he was expressing himself.
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>>57486053
>GNU tards are more likely to hire lawyers
Not really. Anyway BSD tards had much larger legal issues (with ATT), not GNU, despite the cuck license tried to dodge it.
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>>57483680
>As a matter of fact, gpl ideology pisses off companies that are considering going opensource
You wouldn't think it given the absolutely massive adoption projects licensed under the GPL have seen.
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>>57486087
and those are completely unrelated to the license in use
>cuck license
oh ok maybe i shouldn't reply to you seriously then
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>>57486053
except that isn't true at all, GPL software is perfectly capable of being used inside proprietary companies, the only companies who refuse to use it are the ones who are scared of the GPL because they don't understand it

BSD license allows that, but it goes a step further and allows abuse. there is NO reason to use it unless you want someone else to take your free software and abuse people by attacking their freedoms.
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>>57486246
I replied to "GNU tard" post. The BSD license explicitly wanted ATT to don't start a lawsuit, so it's related.
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Also I'm confident that we'll be getting great traction and buy-in for systemd-bsd over the next few months.

So openbsd and freebsd will be welcomed into the fold and get the best of all worlds.
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>>57486271
I'd write a proper response [spoiler]I wrote it anyway, eh[/spoiler], but
>GPL software is perfectly capable of being used inside proprietary companies
no shit, ofc you can use GPL software inside the companies, this is not what I'm talking about.

Can I distribute a non-GPL product that has portions of GPL code in it? No.

Can I make my proprietary product GPL, if I don't hold copyright for one of it's components, so that said component can't be GPL? No.

Can I do those things with BSD? Yes.

>there is NO reason to use it unless you want someone else to take your free software and abuse people by attacking their freedoms
Let's establish a few things first.
- You're not gaining anything (in and of itself) by releasing free soft.
- Therefore, any software that you make, you could release as proprietary. (except those that use GPL'd portions, for obvious reasons)
- So, you could, or you could not "give back to the community", by writing code.
- Thousands of gnu/linux users don't even know how to code
- Therefore, they don't give back to the community, at all.
- Everyone seems to be ok with the fact, that not everyone is contributing.
- Considering all of the above, there are only two reasons you'd want to write oss:
1) have your name on every derivative app, so that you can show off to your friends/boss/mom
2) just helping out another human being for no reward whatsoever

Both BSD and GPL provide you with those, except with GPL the #2 sounds more like "helping out, only if they are also gnutards", which is why I think GPL provides less freedom than BSD.

I don't understand how can you even "allow abuse" in a license. By default, copyright system gives copyright holder all the rights. You can't revoke those. Licenses allow you to share rights with other people, but you still have copyright.
Again, as I said, there's no "attack on people's freedom" when you use BSD. With BSD you just allow everyone to use your code. You GIVE them freedom to do so.
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>>57483203
what is that I need to know how do this
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>>57483120
mostly because there is no simple method for creating a live bsd, and people don't like to spend the five minutes it takes to install something if they can't try it first.
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>>57483120
>Install BSD
>PC boots to a terminal only
>No software runs on it
>No crashes as nothing is running
>Have to compile all code

Why people waste their time on this shit is beyond me.
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>>57487421
have you ever properly tried *BSD anon?
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>>57483177
Read the fucking GPL you retard. Literally section 6 d says you can "Convey the object code by offering access from a designated place (gratis or for a charge), and offer equivalent access to the Corresponding Source in the same way through the same place at no further charge." https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
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Did anyone notice OP himself isn't using BSD?

Ironic isn't it? I don't blame him though BSD is unusable
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>>57483120
BSD has no drivers!

>>57483177
>Do communists really believe this or is it a meme?
Yes. Property is theft.

>BSD boots 15 seconds faster than Ubuntu on my machines
Get a real computer.

>>57483214
BSD and OS X come with bash, which is GPL licensed. The Java ecosystem is also predominantly GPL licensed.

>>57485556
If everyone has freedoms, no one does.
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>>57483177
>making money from my work infringes on freedom
Is BSD /your/ work?

I'll tell you something.
BSD runs on locked down laptops, game consoles and routers.
Linux runs on smartphones, servers, desktops, laptops, routers, supercomputers, literal toasters, mainframes, render farms, hypervisors etc etc.

This difference is caused by the way in which all GPL development benefits all GPL users and developers, versus when with BSD you can limit who it really benefits.

Linux is a snowball that won't stop growing as it rolls.
BSD is a snowball in sahara.

One is destinied to grow and develop, one is destinied to lag behind and eventually die out.

And it's because of the license.
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tfw the useful parts of FreeBSD is came from OpenSolaris.
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>>57489308
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>>57489308
>Living next to the water heater
RIP
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>>57488299
>If everyone has freedoms,a no one does

Pro-tip: if you predicate your argument for x not being y on x being y, your argument is probably retarded.
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>>57485729
>not understanding that anarchism is communist and fascism is capitalist
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>>57488299
>BSD come with bash
Confirmed for never having used one. If they came with bash, I wouldn't use them anyways, since it's a shitty bloated shell.
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>>57491978
came here to post this
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