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Hey /g/

What's a good alternative for this dinosaur? I need something that can play .mkv, .flv, .avi, and practically anything I can throw at it that is within reason? I'm on a new build and don't want to bog it down with VLC like on my previous PC.
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OS?
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>>57470797
w7PRO
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>>57470799
MPC-HC
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>>57470789
Windows Media Player by Microsoft
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>>57470811
>WMP
>.avi
.mkv
.flv

come on now
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Light alloy
Kmp
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>>57470804

Gonna try this one out. Thanks bro.
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>>57470819
What are you trying to say?
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>>57470789
mpv.io
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>>57470905
/thread
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There's no a single program that can do all the the things VLC does.
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>>57470789
I use vlc everyday, what's wrong with it?
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>>57471424

Nothing. It just tickles /g/'s autism.
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>>57470905
No GUI.
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>>57471384
>>57470789

MPC-HC
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Try MPC-HC, new build is going to be released soon.


If you don't know what you're doing just search for "Lav Filters MegaMix" and choose MPC-HC and a fitting profile for madvr according to your PC specs.
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>>57470789
what do you mean "bog it down"?
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>>57470789
>.flv
>.avi
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>>57471461
No bloat.
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>>57470905
this

>>57471461
git gud
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>>57471461
I dont use mpv, but I just did a quick apt-cache search and it looks like there is a gnome-mpv and smplayer available for GUIs for it.
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mpv is all you need
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>>57471530
No features.
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>>57470789
MPC HC
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>>57471587
I'm aware of that, and I'm using Bomi alongside VLC on Antergos. I think that's the only one available for Windows 7.
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>>57470789
K-LITE
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>>57470789
Just use windows media player and download needed codecs
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>>57471653
Windows build sucks compared to Linux
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iOS
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>>57471663
This srsly. Automatic subtitles, very lightweight, low on CPU usage. I have a craptop with celeron and when I played 1080p video with 5.1 audio on vlc it sucked ass but it worked flawlessly on mpc.
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>>57470789
mpv
mpc-hc if you don't want to spend time configuring stuff
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>>57472017
What the fuck are you doing on /g/ if you don't care about tech
Go back to /v/ manchild
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What's wrong with VLC? I've never had any issue with it.
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>>57471475
>>57471490
>>57470804
You shills should get lost.
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>>57472054
Nothing is wrong with it, but why use inferior software when there are better alternatives like mpv or mpc-hc?
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>>57470789
Mpc-hc, mpv or smplayer.
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>>57470789
potplayer
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>>57471654
Yes, it has features. What was your point?
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>>57472211
>chatting
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>>57472211
>chinese
>proprietary

No way jose
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>>57472218
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>>57470789
But VLC can play all those
Honestly VLC is one of the only media players that you can get for free that is that versatile
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>>57472218
I didn't realize another window popped up, it said chat but it was blank, weird

and now the button is gone
no more chat for me I guess
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>>57472252
mpv and mpc-hc can play all those aswell while having a better picture. Last time I tried vlc couldnt handle 7.1 audio. mpv can also play more than vlc can.
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>>57472217
My point is that you have to memorize keyboard commands and edit config files to make it usable.
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>>57472279
t. Botnet ;^)
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>>57472293
You dont have to but it does make it better. I think setting up my config was way easier than setting up mpc-hc+madvr. And if that is too hard for you than I feel sorry for you.
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>>57472308
And how is any of that better than just using VLC? It's FOSS, multi platform and has a lot of features.
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>>57471461
Why would you need a GUI for a fucking media player though?
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>>57472429
See: >>57472293
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>>57472374
Picture quality. Colors are better, it renders faster. vlc is a video lan client, its not a dedicated media player like mpv. If you cant uderstand this then there is no hope for you. Use whatever you want, these are just the facts.
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>>57472308
>You dont have to

That's false. Basic commands like volume adjust, audio channel and subtitle selection is what everyone uses. You can't dismiss those as a non default use case.
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>>57472451
So your saying its not retard friendly enough for you?
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>>57472461
>video lan client

It's better to refere to it as a "video server" because it's really that at its roots.
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>>57472479
So add a gui if you cant remember 4 keys!! There are plenty of frontends for mpv.
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>>57472461
>Picture quality. Colors are better.
Proof?
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>>57472480
I'm using Bomi on Linux. It's a front-end for MPV with a lot of features I'd otherwise have to add by myself if I was using MPV.
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>>57472507
Why should a use choose to code something when he can simply pick an alternative with those features included? mpv isn't gaining wider ground when it actually could.
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>>57472546
Compare for yourself. Its noticable.
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>>57472054
It's aight, mpv does everything that VLC does while being lighter and cleaner and no real downsides.

But if you're happy with VLC then keep using it, it's your machine after all.
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>>57472579
But VLC sucks hard. I want to use mpv.io but I don't like the logo, what do?
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>>57472562
Those features are included! tech illiterates just dont know how to use it. And I hope the devs dont dumb down the software to accomidate those people. mpv is a different product than media players with a gui. Its more advanced.
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>>57472606
>Those features are included! tech illiterates just dont know how to use it. And I hope the devs dont dumb down the software to accomidate those people.
This would only make sense for server related software.
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>>57472606
>implementing simple controls that already exist through command line is dumbing down
>implying gui and command line can't co-exist

More like typical cli programming practises where you can reach the commands at the initialization step and the rest of the software can't dynamically access them. Bravo mpv shill
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>>57472627
>>57472639
Its designed to be a backend thats why you can use it with plex.
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>>57472670
Then don't promote it as the end all be all media player.
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>>57472429
>why do you need a GUI to use a program made to view media?

Retarded Lisa poster
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>>57472693
Its great for people who want a cean, efficient, and highly customizable media player with excellent picture quality.
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>>57472670
Not who you replied to, but
Arguments like these are why mpv users have a toxic reputation. You have no idea how much technological experience OP has, yet you write things like "if you can't write a config file then there is no hope for you".

Just tell people "I like to use mpv because it works great after setting it up properly, which requires a certain level of knowledge and patience".
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>>57472693
not him but I don't know why you're so asshurt about mpv, I haven't even changed the default settings on mine or """""coded""""" any customization and I have been using it for years

VLC is hot garbage, it's an objective truth
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>>57472829
Not him, but
>VLC is hot garbage
which is why OP is looking for an alternative. Nobody is defending VLC.
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>>57472829
>VLC is hot garbage, it's an objective truth
You feel superior by doing something developers should've already done, right?
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>>57472812
If it keeps normies out maybe thats a good thing
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>>57472871
so you assume whoever is asking for a media player is a normie, and then recommend them mpv because "lol he can't figure it out"?

nice trolling my dude !
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>>57472906
stop white knighting

if you and your butt buddy want to use inferior software go for it, no need to frolic it around, this isn't one of your little pride parades
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>>57472293
>mpv file
>p for pause
>m for mute
>f for full screen
>left and right for seek

I had an aneurysm just thinking about these commands
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>>57470889
It can't open those

>>57470789
Why not VLC? You can always use MPV.
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>>57472906
>implying I recommended it
>implying everyone lurking is a normie
>implying mpv is hard to set up for even the average user

You're not too bad yourself
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>>57470789
literally any media player meets those requirements OP
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>>57472967
i will tell you that i have no affiliation with OP, but you won't believe me anyway so i'll just tell you to keep on making mpv users' reputation worse, you're doing a great job
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>>57470804
This OP. Better video quality as well.
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>>57472293
What do you need in a media player? I doubt anyone does anything other than pausing/resuming and adjusting volume after opening a video. And even if you need more you can always download a pre-made config file.
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>>57472974
How do you add subtitles without editing config files? How do you stream?
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>>57473012
lol
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>>57472974
Why's there no F1 to show all these and instead there's a clusterfuck of a manual.
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>>57473042
(you)
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>>57473025
You can add an srt file to the folder with the movie like any other player or you can add a script that you can find at github that downloads subs for you. To stream you add youtube-dl to your mpv folder then type mpv URL in the terminal. Or you can install an addon or webextension that opens up links from your browser in 2 clicks.
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>>57473085
Still a lot more than you'd have to do by using VLC.
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>>57473085
Why do you have to explain this rather than mpv devs? Why is there no document on common use cases available? Why are the devs cockblocking their own application? Are they being paid?
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>>57473099
With better picture and more control I dont care if it takes me 2 more seconds.
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>>57473012
Kek
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>>57470804
The only option
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>>57472288
I think, MPC-HC needs external codecs. I use kawaii codec pack for that.
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>>57473181
>unironically defending VLC

Holy kek and some people even said nobody will defend VLC haha
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>>57470789
Ignore the faggots who say MPC-HC. I often encounter broken videos MPC won't play that VLC will. And it's useless when playing incomplete video, like in-progress torrents. If all your shit is done and well encoded though, MPC is very light. You said your PC is new though? Why the fuck is it too slow for any video player? You have to have like 10 porn videos open at a time for this shit to matter.

Also MPC isn't better quality unless you watch illustrated shit like anime. I've tried MadVR with the most expensive and recommended scaling options and there's just no fucking difference if the material is photographic. I also don't understand why people sperge over raping their CPU or GPU to make their chinese cartoons barely look better.

I really like potplayer. Plays everything VLC does in my experience, and is really good at finding keyframes when seeking through in-progress torrents. I also like being able to seek smoothly by dragging the seek bar. MPC-HC weebs should even like it because you can use MadVR.
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>>57473239
It's the best player out there, both on Windows and Linux. Any argument against it is invalid, especially the "colour" or "quality" ones. There's no difference between them. Only idiots with fucked up calibration.
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>>57473283
Top kek
Some of us have 20/20 vision and displays over 50"
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>>57471424
They don't like it because it actually became popular after they shillled it so much.
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>>57473313
Then use a colourpicker. Your vision while perfect (by your claims) seems to be affected by some brain illness.
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>>57473283
Go check your eyes.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/38184
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>>57470789
PotPlayer, idiot.

Anything that it doesn't play, associate with VLC. Anything that both don't play, associate with Windows Media Player.
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>>57473313
You're retarded and you've never A/B'd a vlc vs mpc-hc screenshot. They are exactly the same pixel per pixel out of the box. The only difference is VLC has the retarded 16-235 output that can be fixed by forcing it in your nvidia control panel.
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>>57473181
vlc uses more cpu on playback
not a big deal on a desktop pc, but on a laptop running on battery is a big dealio
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>people are unironically defending vlc

I am dissapoint
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>>57473283
>he actually believes this

pfftAHAHAHA

CANNOT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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>>57472043
No one on /g/ uses Windows anyways.
And yes, mpv on Windows fucking sucks. On GNU however it's the best software ever written.
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>>57473366
>Lanczos is the same as bilinear
kys
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>>57473364
Your fault for being incompetent and having players with different settings, then to compare which i better. Mine output the same.

>>57473388
I get the same CPU usage on both VLC and MPC (assuming HWA and HW decoding is enabled on both. MPV usually uses twice as much CPU though, while using the GPU at the same level with VLC/MPC.
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>>57473412
With the right config for your hardware mpv on windows is just as good.
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>>57473283
wrong. I took the difference between the two images and here are the results. This one is the vlc image with the mpc image subtracted from it, ie what you're looking at is the vlc image with the common data between the two images removed. Notice the remaining banding present in the image.
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>>57473435
>Mine output the same.
Confirmed - retard that can't configure a media player.
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>>57473283
And here's the mpc image with the common data removed. Notice the lack of banding and only slight grain present in the image. Much better quality.
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>>57470804
Outdated. MPC-BE is the new hotness.
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>>57473364
The retarded part is people who tell you to get MPC-HC to replace VLC don't tell you to get MadVR. Otherwise there is absolutely no difference. This isn't a VLC vs MPC screenshot, it's a typical directshow renderer vs MadVR screenshot. A lot of different players can use MadVR.

I'm also suspicious of this particular screenshot because I've tried MadVR with the quality settings recommended by various guides, and never got results like this. There could be additional post processing applied to the frame. Regardless, there's no such thing as increasing video quality, only increasing preference. All improvements to video rendering are trade-offs. The settings that made this particular video look better could make another video look like dogshit.
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>>57473443
>no right click>open with mpv
>can't set as default video player
Sorry but no.
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>>57473283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDmdUbc3fBQ
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>>57473414
MPC-HC doesn't use laczos out of the box, it uses bilinear with EVR

you kill yourself
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>>57473484
Im on windows and can do both of those things with mpv...
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>>57473500
People who use EVR should kill themselfs
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>>57473435
>I get the same CPU usage on both VLC and MPC
strange
with vlc, i get ~20% cpu usage with hw acceleration, while with mpc-hc, cpu usage is ~5%
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>>57472480

Are you implying you've NEVER had your hand on the mouse with the other hand not on the keyboard, and just wanted to click a pause button?

I think there's benefit to a media player having at least a GUI with the basic buttons you would find on hardware that plays video
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>>57473515
I know when I tried it I couldn't. Which build are you using?
I also don't watch chinese cartoons and I don't care about bloat on Windows partition so whatever.
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http://www.cccp-project.net

CCCP, never had any issues with any video with it. Does no one else use this?
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I use SMPlayer, MPV, or a combination of the 2 (MPV running within SMPlayer) depending on the video I'm trying to play.

SMPlayer accomplishes most of it, but for watching live streams, MPV is king.
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>>57473487
Read again: >>57473283
>idiots with fucked up calibration
(You)

>>57473524
VLC CPU: 7-10 GPU: 16
MPC CPU: 7-10 GPU: 22
MPV CPU: 30-35 GPU: 12
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>>57473655

> Riley Reid porn

A fine choice
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>>57473585
There is a pause button... you can also right click to pause or press the spacebar or set anyother keybind you want. Pehaps you should research about what you're talking about before shitposting.
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>>57473708

Don't get me wrong. I use the spacebar to play/pause 98% of the time. I was just making the point that a GUI doesn't harm the experience at all, unless you have floating controls that cover your video or something.
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>>57473452
>>57473456
You've proven there's a difference.

>Much better quality.

But that's full retard. Is anyone watching this difference output when they jack off to riley ried? >>57473456 Fuck no.

How about what we look at what is detectable under real viewing conditions, you know, the one people use and actually matter.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/190388

If I get at a shitty viewing angle on my monitor, and mouse over, the banding circle on the light at the top gets smaller.

Wow. Literally not worth arguing over and absolutely not worth switching video players over. Use the video player with the interface, performance, and features you like.
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>>57473593
I dont watch anime either...but I do like how customizable it is and how good it looks with my remuxs
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>>57473655
>>idiots with fucked up calibration
>VLC does not have color management.
Confirmed retard
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>>57473742
C'mon now. You're the one that started this argument. Don't get your panties in a bunch when you're proven wrong.
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>>57473734
Thats fine, just not everyone needs one and if you do there are plenty of guis for mpv.
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>>57473801

Agreed. I'm all for the players that let you choose if you want one, and don't mind if it comes with a GUI enabled.
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>>57473793
>VLC does not have color management
From now on your arguments are discarded. Thanks for proving my point.
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>>57473753
This came out wrong. I don't watch anime on Windows partition.
That's why I'm saying that on GNU it's masterpiece. Especially with playlists.
I use it for streaming and watching locally both audio and video.
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>>57473797
I'm actually not. You did realize anyone with common sense could have pointed out the futility of your point right?
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>>57473734
>>57473585
When will the meme end
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>>57473655
I have never had that high of cpu usage while even using software decoding with mpv. It will also be way less if you use hardware decoding
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I like vlc, i dont care if its bloated or not, one autistic selling point, you can play videos in the terminal which it emulates video with letters /numbers in different colors, so yeah beat that
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>>57473860
>not using bottombar
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>>57470804
This one is good but try PTHC instead. It has superior codecs.
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>>57473860

That's the worst thing about installing a fresh copy of MPV. Why would they ever give you floating controls by default? Worst part is that the controls become too small to use if you have the video in a small window.
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>>57473889
>following weeb trends
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>>57473825
Discarded, because I'm right or you don't know what color management is?

https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=109236
>Unfortunately VLC don't support Color Management to enable Display Profile.
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>>57473925
>2013
Off the charts autism.
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>>57473910
>implying
I've been using bottombar for a long time
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>>57473953
Retard learn 2 google.
https://www.reddit.com/r/colorists/comments/45ktmu/color_managed_video_players_on_os_x/
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>>57473998
Not only that it's a year old and reddit, but source op is just as much of a retard as you are.
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>>57473202
It doesn't need external codecs. I only really play .mkvs but I haven't yet found any file that wouldn't play in MPC-HC with no "codec packs" installed.
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>>57474070
You sure know how to pull the bullshit out of your ass.
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>>57474140
And you sure are mentally challenged, since your eyes are "perfect".
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>>57471424
It has a few rendering bugs, and is overall less powerful than it's counterparts. It's objectively worse than mpv and MPC-HC, for example.
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>>57473435
mpv by default has a more demanding config. Try enabling hwdec, for example.
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>>57471490
>new build
good one
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>>57470804
>>57472079
Can web streams be played through mpc/vlc?

How
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>>57470789
itunes
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>>57472979
>It can't open those
With the right codecs it can open anything, retard.

I've just tested here, and my WMP can open a 10bit HEVC (x265) 4k .mkv just fine. Directshow filters handle all the hard work.
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>He fell for the "vlc sucks" meme
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>>57479324
>he fell for the "vlc doesnt suck" meme
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>>57472029
try harder
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>>57479343
>he fell for the "if it just works, try something else because I should have to do all this manual setup before it actually starts to work" meme
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>>57473902
ah fuck
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>>57479369
>he doesnt think vlc needs proper configuration to even compete with other players
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>>57471530
i really hope you people defending no GUI never, listen to me, never work doing actual software for normal people. What kind of autistic world detached faggot would recommend no GUI?
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>>57479387
>cares about minor video quality details
>videophile
Autism detected
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>>57470789
VLC.
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>>57479465
>doesnt care about video quality
vlc user detected
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>>57470804
>regular MPC-HC
nah senpai

K-Lite codec with MPC HC pack all the way
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>>57479553
>2016
>still using codec packs

did I step back in time?
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>>57479565
>willfully installing inferior codecs
pffft
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>>57479553
>not using madVR Mad flac and LAV filters
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>>57479581
How are those codecs better than what comes with mpc-hc by default? Do you know what comes with it by default nowadays?
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>>57479594
But K-lite codec pack standard installs that
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