So, I've tried all the memes -- standing desk, ergonomic

because having shit push on you around your solar plexus is the most uncomfortable shit in the world

>>57451529
you can adjust the angle so you're only leaning forward a little bit and some of the weight can be distributed to your arms too

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This >>57451529
They tried but most people hated it after a while and it puts a great strain on the knees too. Plus no professional would ever want to be seen looking like a tard.

Pic related

>>57451508
Is this picture really true? Because the 3rd is how I sit and I was worried about my posture.

>>57452712
gave me a chuckle

>>57451508

just work out your back you faggot

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>>57452712
seems like the knee issue is caused by people bracing to not "fall forward" and bust themselves up. I think that you could avoid this by making the base bigger (would be and appear more stable and even having a lever (electric would be fancy but $$$) adjust the angle of forward tilt.

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>>57451508
>>57452803

look up kyphosis

humans aren't supposed to sit for extended periods of time

>>57453031
$4900, damn.

>>57453060
already do, religiously. strong back means nothing. muscle still shorten and get painful. stretching doesn't help enough.

>>57453072
this is why squatty fat working men (or women, just very few of that kind) can beat the fuck out of the average joe and deadlift like 550 without prep

>>57453210
yeah i've been reading more, now i always stand up in between vidya rounds (like db) and do a lot of my work (math major) on a white board instead of hunched over paper

>captcha: warning bend

>>57453210
this pic is true and another problem with leaning back. laying down completely has all sorts of issues too.

>>57455186
>>57453210
>>57451508

Then what the fuck are we supposed to do?

>>57451508
This is a good idea!!! Make one. Post pics. Ignore the haters.

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>>57453210
>>57451508

>>57455224
Take small breaks inbetween sessions. Maybe make some coffee, wash your face, do a few stretches.

Two words: Treadmill, desk.

>>57453398
Golfer here, my back is the most developed part of my body and I spend a lot of time at my computer. I have zero issues. But try getting up and fixing stretches every half hour you're at your desk or something, that should keep the tension off.

>>57455224

Do you think humans were meant to sit around for hours each day? We've only been doing that in the past 100 years.

>>57455499
Then what do we do then, stand?

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>>57455564
Chug baby aspirin and flex your legs so you retain good blood flow. As a side effect you will also get swole.

>>57453031
>the technology behind it? M A G N E T I C S
dropped. fucking normie shit

>>57455483
if i got up every half hour i'd get nothing done. i lift weights and work my back heavily twice a week. doesn't help.

>>57453031
looks like it will get incredibly uncomfortable incredibly fast

also 0/10 SOLAR FREAKING ROADWAYS-tier marketing bullshit video. please don't post that shit on /g/

>>57453031
Why not get a dentist chair.

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like this but more upright and no need for face rest as you're ust leaning forward

>>57456979
this is ok for reading but how do you use a computer

>>57456984
well if it were a computer chair rather than lounge chair and had arm rests it would be literally the as you do now.

but for that lounge chair just lay the monitor, keyboard and mouse below you. no desk required.

>>57456979
enjoy your arms being full of blood after 30-60 seconds

I swear, have none of the people thinking up all this nonsense ever actually even tried assuming the pose they suggest before?

>>57457001
no your arms would be resting on arm rests. the lounge chair was just a similar but different idea.

just like i said in op, it's just like leaning forward in your chair right now but with your front torso supported

>>57456852
If you're working your back to heavily then you're setting yourself up for failure at a desk, no matter the posture. During heavy exercise you weaken the muscles slightly for a few days. That's why you are supposed to skip muscle groups every other day or so which it sounds like you're doing. But your back may still be wore out from exercise even after a few days so it can't properly support you between exercises leading to poor posture and the other side effects.

Try doing heavy arm exercises, then see how long you can hold a significant weight above your shoulder the next day (no locking the elbow.) Try again before you redo your arm exercises, chances are you can hold it a lot longer. You have the same reaction in your back, just across more muscles and joints with fewer nerve endings leading to a duller reaction to early pain symptoms.

Try lightening up on your back exercises (stopping them completely), unless you're body building as/for a sport. When you can comfortably work at your desk in a correct posture and without pain, dial exercise back up slowly until you find a better medium. If the pain doesn't recede in 1-2 weeks then seek a doctor who may refer you to a chiropractor or other specialist. You may have more than a weak muscle or imbalance causing problems.

I stand at my desk and sit periodically in a cheap stool. My back and neck are doing a lot better because of the more natural posture (a correct posture that is easier for me to maintain) and stretches that are correcting years of bad sitting posture.

>>57457020
>If you're working your back to heavily then you're setting yourself up for failure at a desk
not even a little bit.

my back feels great from lifting. it hurts from sitting. i started a heavy strength training routine in hopes it would help and it didn't. my back is far stronger than it ever was and it still hurts from sitting.

i do squats, deadlifts, overhead press, bench press, rows and pull ups regularly. doesn't help. only thing that helps is not being on computer. i've tried standing, sitting, lying down, treadmill and all at a desk. they all have various crippling problems.

and oh yeah i went to the doctor they said stop doing what hurts. i went to a chiro a few times and didn't like it. nobody said i had any specific problem. i'm 100% fully capable and pain free if i just don't use a computer.

>>57453031
This would actually be the most comfortable. For one it spreads your weight over the largest possible area of body, and in the reclined position you don't need to use any of your muscles to keep your body in the right position.

>>57457163
Although, truly, the human body is a piece of fucking shit. What kind of shitty body can't hold one position for a day without getting damaged?

>>57453031
Where do I put my 2.1 sound system and pot with soup?

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>>57452712
Top kek

>>57457189
It is fucked by design. The only way is suicide.

>>57457241
>It is fucked by design. The only way is suicide.
Actually replacement manufacturing replacement parts is the only realistic way forward.

>>57456903
they're like double that price

>>57455224
>Then what the fuck are we supposed to do?
we're supposed to:
walk
run
hunt
forage
plant
fight
copulate
and only then lay horizontally on solid but not too rigid dirt/grassy/leafy/leathery bedding arrangement

source: im a highlander from 14000 BCE

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hum
you folks sit like this sometimes?

>>57458146
Im not a 5'4 manlet like you

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>>57457163
i've done a bed pc setup which is similar idea. it's alright but there are numerous issues. you can't hold a mouse on an angled desk so you pretty much have to use a trackball. you can get very dizzy from laying down that much. it got so bad that i feared standing up. you may develop hip, low back and knee problems. your back muscles relax which is nice but the extreme sedantary nature causes a lack of blood flow to an area of your body that already struggles with this, your back so your back might be aching more than before when doing anything but lying down. all in all, lying down is better than the others but it's not a proper solution.

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>>57458146
>he's able to fit in a chair like that

>>57453031
>I'm in.

>>57455224
nothing. humans normally had kids very early on, so long term damages to your body were never "considered" by evolution

the human body is just built to fail at some point

I don't have this problem

I have my pc with 4 monitors 2 either side of my bed, I rarely lay on my back so I'm not bother by having to look to the side

I have a small 10 keyless keyboard that I use for the left side of my bed and a gaming keyboard that is on my desk tray to the right of my bed that I can pull out to use for games

My mouse is a Logitech thumb trackball so I can use it in bed easily

I barely leave my bed cause I have all the stuff i need/want, want to play games, watch TV, watch films, browse the web, I can do it all in the comfort of my bed, I spend 98% of my time in bed

>>57458146
Yes, can't sit like that for long though.

>>57458859
>I'm 450lbs

fixed that for you

>>57451508
>your weight is supported by your chest/stomach rather than your back, thus taking the strain off your back?
How fucking fat are you that your weight would be supported by your stomach?

>>57460852
I'm 6'0" 170lbs. Kill yourself, subhuman manlet.

>>57453072
i think using that woman in this context is a bad example, i think she actually had some legit medical reason for gaining extreme amounts of weight in a couple of months or something.

>>57460675
>He doesn't have a small body that can pass for a trap

>>57460927
I'm 6'2" 200lbs. I have no idea what your retarded ass is drooling over their keyboard about. I also play sports, lift weights and have a physically active job that the vast majority of you would die doing if you did more than a year or two. I actually fully try the things I do unlike your casual ass.

It's those fucking Blacks I bet

>>57461213
>Claims to be 6'2" 200lbs.
>Has a stomach large enough that leaning forward slightly will support his weight
Sure, anon. Don't worry, we all believe you.
I get it that I'm a hungry skeleton (6'4" 160lbs) but fuck, man. My stomach is flush with my chest; no amount of leaning forward will ever allow me to support my weight with my stomach.

>>57461380
must suck to be a skinny retard like you

>>57461210
He's probably gay desu

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nevermind found it

>>57461380
fuck you lanklet

>>57452712
funny but no

>>57463553
now all it needs is the knee chair meme. where a knee chair will destroy your knees this won't since the weight is distributed between your body/arms/knees evenly

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basically this minus the face rest autism.

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breddy gud tbqh family

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another view

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literally a workstation.

this one is only $70 https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01BBTQKSE/ref=pd_aw_sim_sbs_200_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=8FDERM8E2T8XTD5ECDW5

>>57457052
Ofc since youre hurting it with lifting, I did that too until the pain got too bad, stopped deadlifts and squats and non natural back excersises, now Im fine. I do very light spinal excersises though.

Saddle stool or standing desk, most natural choices, though standing is best. These cause a very natural position.

>>57463553
THICC

Just keep your back straight and your ass out.

This shit isn't rocket science. It doesn't matter how much tilt you have or not if your back is straight.

>>57458859
im 177cm but i dont see what you even meant by that???

tibia femur and torso are proportional, a person 2 meters tall wouldnt have his knees on his forehead

i can only imagine that you think its impossible to not have a fat belly unless you're a teen or a tiny jockey, kekeke


>>57460840
im gonna have to request pics

of the whole arrengement and you you using it also

>>57451508
90 degrees is not even using the full chair.

The sweet spot is just above 90 degrees.

>>57464161
nope already been there done that. stopped lifting. back still hurt from sitting. doesn't work.

>>57453210
>humans aren't supposed to sit for extended periods of time
sit on chairs with dangling legs for extended periods of times*

watch how a child sits on the floor, before they've been conditions on how to sit improperly
that is how humans are supposed to sit

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like this basically

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this is the correct typing position

these things can be folded up and put in your closet, they're portable too

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look at that shit you could just fold it up and toss it under your bed. all the rests are fully adjustable as well. and they can be had for as little as $50

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they make high end ones too

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>>57464569
like this?

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>>57451508

>>57453210
Sitting all day without getting up and moving around is also a good way to get blot clots. I'm sure this is the reason why MMO gamers suddenly drop dead.

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>>57466006
nice mouse oh wait YOU DON'T HAVE ONE

>>57465223
I wonder what it would be like to get fucked up the ass on one of these.

>>57466246
I mean I'm sure you could put a VR helmet on and try but it's not really necessary

>>57466280
You could just get a little clip on tablet arm and clip it to a nightstand...

>>57466381
your neck and shoulders will get sore

>>57453031

I currently have a heavy duty arm with adjustable heigh for my iMac 5k. Problem is there is no VESA iMacs in my country so I'm using an aftermarket solution to convert the base to a VESA joint.

I'll be honest. I'd be absolutely terrified of laying down with a 9kg monitor/screen above me.

...

then again if I had $5000 for this monitor I'd probably be able to just ship a VESA iMac or make a good Hackintosh build.

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>>57460602

>>57463553
God, that makes my balls hurt just looking at it

>>57465757
That is the world's most uncomfortable sitting position. I don't know how people tolerate it.

>>57463553

hot.

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>>57466455
the bike? it's not bad really not bad at all

>>57464264
Compared to what? Anorexia?

>>57455224
>>57458101 beat me to it.

Get off the computer and go outside.

>>57457189
One that can have sex and die. Only reason we are alive.

>>57458146
Yeah, feels good man. 183cm btw. Guess it looks retarded tho.

>>57463553
>white bicycle seat

That's gonna look good after a few rides.

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Because I have a kraut magic lawn chair and I got it for free.

>>57466418
>your neck and shoulders will get sore
>>57466381

no, doing this with cloth works for a lot of time, its just to much work to make to plain enough to not have pressure points

>>57461007
fat white knight defending his fair whale princess

>>57467072
yeah i know it works for a while i had a setup with a bench at the end of my bed so i could lay on my stomach and have an arm rest but my shoulders got sore quicker than any other setup

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>this is my battlestation

>>57463553
That's actually not to retarded,especially as it can be used as regular office chair (as seen next to the gril in the background)

I sit with good posture in a high quality office chair with lots of power back support. I also get up and walk around outside about once an hour.

Having decent sitting posture takes almost no effort if you have a chair that's very adjustable and has good lower back support.

>>57470138
Lower back support*

>>57470138
fuck off 250 pound neckbeard
I go hunting every week

>>57466006
I have this. Its alright.

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How comfy are these kinds of chairs?

>>57451508

That image is fucking retarded.

The problem isn't the user's back angle. The problem is the user's forward head syndrome. The middle picture is correct, except that the neck should not be craned forward.

That said, your idea in your last paragraph is probably a good idea. People's backs (I mean everything from neck to torso to lower back to hamstrings) are usually *horrifyingly* weak. I've had a lot of problems caused by muscular imbalances, and it's almost always the back side that's weak.

>>57453031

That looks fantastic. Reminds me of a web page I came across years ago. Some old bearded wizard had a lot of back problems, and he posted a picture of his workstation. It was a Laz-E-Boy with a rotating monitor and keyboard tray.

**** PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT ****

Here's the video I post every time this comes up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTV6UCh-yhs

Feel free to ignore his goofball explanations, but that series of exercises is seriously fantastic.

Also, don't engage in push-up challenges that were all the rage a couple of years ago. Most people have forward-rotated shoulders and forward head syndrome. You need to work on your back. Do pull-ups instead. Yoga is pretty awesome for exposing your muscular imbalances, plus hot chicks as a bonus. You'd probably be amazed at how horrible you are at the movements that require back strength ("cobra", "bow pose", "wheel pose").

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>>57455564

Yes. I've been using a standing desk off and on for the last several years. It really help with posture, but it certainly takes awhile to get used to it.

Ikea has probably the best value in convertible sit/stand desks. The Bekant. See pic.

>>57470602
Meme tier.

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>>57470690

Also, here's a chair to consider. I always had a problem with typical chairs: when I was mentally engaged (i.e. not paying attention to my posture), my butt would slowly slide forward and I'd end up slouching back against the chair. Chairs that have a "tractor" style seat prevent you from sliding forward. Another potential bonus is that you can actually angle the front of the chair somewhat downward. In theory, having a greater angle in your hip may be healthier for you (better blood flow, partial engagement of leg muscles).

The attached pic is a chair made by BodyBilt. They're extremely expensive new ($800+?), but can be found cheaply and in good condition at used office furniture stores. I have the high version (for drafting table type use) that I use sometimes with my standing desk.

>>57470602
Decently apparently. I see most people have some pillow addon for the lower back though, so it seems they're flawed really.
Only reason they're popular is because streamers get them for free to advertise to dipshit, and then dipshits buy them. They're overpriced for what they offer, but they're not the worst.

>>57470602

Those may be comfortable, but they're probably not conducive to good posture.

Look at the upper bolsters. Those are either Chinese knock offs of automotive performance seats, or they're styled after them. Those types of side bolsters are meant to trap you and keep you from sliding when cornering.

Those upper side bolsters will contribute to the forward rotation of your shoulders.

Additionally, the bottom seat on that has little if any side bolstering. That will become uncomfortable faster than a contoured seat bottom. Plus, with no 'nose' and a leather or vinyl surface, you're going to find yourself sliding forward.

Worst of all are those arms. They're curved, which means you'll be resting your forearms on a relatively small surface area. They're also immobile and placed fairly wide. I find that I do best in a chair with adjustable arms (sliding in and out, not just up and down) to support my forearms with my elbows bent at around 90 degrees.

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>>57451508
There are only three positions that are natural and don't fuck up your posture on the long run: standing, squatting and the lotus position.

Western way of sitting is simply not designed around the human body, and fucks up your spine in the long run (khyphosis).

A lower chair that allows you to squat would be better but is not exactly comfy.

The comfiest position if you can do is the full lotus position. Naturally realigns your spine and straightens you, and is very stable. But it takes time to stretch your thights, and at first leaves you sore for hours.

>>57470177
I lift weights, cycle, and take my dog on long walks. Recently realized that I start getting depressed if I don't do at least one of those things every day.

>>57470862
>Lotus position is the best position
>But it requires you to train your body to do it and it will cause intense pain for hours until your body eventually breaks down, muscles soaked in lactic acid and your body covered in blood.
>The lord is upon you. You try to squirm but his finger's already in your bum. You scream, but you only expel spaghetti. Your legs slacken. A kind man with golden skin repairs your legs by the riverside. Everything is calm but you're still bursting with rigatoni. He massages your knees into a fine curd. Your body is ready.

>>57457222
i hope ur eating magnetic soup.

I use a car seat on a power recliner base.

I had the recliner whose upholstery was worn and wood loose, so instead of getting a hernia moving it whole I blew it apart with my cordless screwgun. Lo and behold, the base was interesting enough to keep for play value. I then bolted a hinged plate to the base and bolted a passenger seat (usually not badly worn compared to driver side seats) to that giving me both sets of adjustments. Seat was 25 bucks at a U-Pull It.

No pics because Anons insult anything that isn't expensive and beautiful, but you can do the same thing with high end seats. Remember that nofuckingchair has the engineering put into a modern automobile seat.

I use a MSFT Natural keyboard and a Marble Mouse trackball on my lap. Monitor is on an monitor arm on a simple custom base I welded from clean leftovers from machinistbros fab shop.

Totally adjustable, totally comfortable, and easy to do.

>Leaning back is really ackward to control KBM with and makes screen viewing distance weird plus it winds up being not that comfy anyway.

I touch type with no problem nor is trackball a problem but if it were I'd add arm rests with a mouse on each side for ambidex comfort. Proper ergonomics rock. Focal length from monitor is no problem because text size is easily set to suit.

No back issues (my back is fucked) or neck issues (my neck is really fucked) and I can stay in place for many hours without needing to stretch.

BTW for my neck I also use a TENS unit but without relying on the stupid adhesive on the pads. I glued the pads to two small pieces of Velcro then made a simple neck band from more Velcro (get Velcro, not generic hook and loop, any craft aisle at Walmart has it or order online). Bands keep pads firmly in place so I can crank it up and loosen some of my bound up muscles and relieve neck pain. My MRI would scare a layperson.

>>57471678
post pic

I sit in the KAB ACS executive

I mostly lean back, swing enabled. Never any pains

>>57466381
Laying on my stomach like that for just a few minutes kills my neck for some reason, wasn't always like this though. Don't think we are ment to be laying or sleeping on our stomachs either.

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nothing that involves a mouse and a one-piece keyboard can ever be comfortable. One-piece keyboard means your hands have to be in a really awkward and fixed position for prolonged amounts of time, and mouse means you gotta do a lot of switching. Both make truly leaning back impossible to be comfortable.

Look at the non-computing things you do where you actually are comfortable and find out why you can't adopt this for your computing time.
Like, it's much easier to find a comfortable position to just write on paper in a normal fashion than it is to find one when you're at a computer. Probably because the thing you're looking at is not on the same height as your head, but on the table (the thing that's actually supposed to be where your work is). Imagine a maybe laptop size screen mounted into the table (or put below a glass table, with rails so you can shift it around, kinda like a drawer), and then you have two ergodox halfes and a trackball that you can arrange in any fashion on the table itself.

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>>57472508
also, the desk could be tilted.

I sit on the floor. My monitor and keyboard/mouse are on a coffee table

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i'm getting this

>>57453031
Fucking magnets, how do they work?

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>>57453088
I don't suppose you know of any videos where cute, crossdressing traps are bouncing on these while working in Gentoo on there t420's?

>>57474549
1. Become trap
2. Buy one those
3. Work in Gentoo on your T420 while bouncing on it
4. ????
5. Ejaculation

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>>57474634
I'm super cute but I couldn't become trap. Parents would kill themselves. Maybe when they're dead

My balls hurt when I sit at the computer. Ive tried so many different chairs. Nothing works. Doctors say nothing is wrong. Any fresh ideas please?

>>57475964
insert your balls up your ass or bring them on top of your thighs.

>>57475964
wear briefs or boxer briefs. wear a more stretchable material like sports shorts or jogging pants. get dress pants with a small percentage of elastic material.

>>57453031
Wew
I literally can't find a flaw

>>57451508
its called sitting backwards on an otherwise standard office chair without armrests. you sit with your upper torso pushing the "backrest" back.

it just works. you end up a hunchback or having spinal I juries but its top tier comfy.

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>>57471476
fucking kek