YOU APPLE NIGGAS WILL EAT UP ANYTHING >£1,449.00 for the

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>you niggas will eat anything up
>normie speak
>>>/twitter/

>>57429956
the 15" Pro with the Radeom M370X is the last good MacBook

>>57429956
>new macbook pros suck
>posts picture of the best macbook pro ever, better than any other laptop

>>57430031
>15.4"
>2013
>best macbook pro ever
Pick one.

what is a good alternative to the macbook pro?

Yea it sucks spec wise but the new sound is outstanding. I'm sticking with my 2015 model though

>>57430719
XPS 13

>>57430801
Who even uses laptop speakers?

are you some dumb retard ? Do you only realize now that a large portion of people buy apple products as a status symbol ?

>fastest SSD in the laptop market
>best screen in the laptop market
>best OS in the laptop market
Ok kid

>>57430719
Get the 2015 MBP, I got one last week and honeslty it's the best laptop I've ever used with difference. Never had anything apple related till now.

>>57429956
>All MacBook Pros now use "onboard SSDs"

Huh? Some Googling seems to indicate that the SSD is still removable, but it's in a form factor that doesn't have aftermarket support (yet).

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>>57430962
>bestOS
How simple do you have to be to think an OS that relies on a single button mouse is the best?

>>57431092
What? Theres right click functionality just like any other OS.

>>57430962
>worst ports in the laptop market

>>57430719
a 2014-2015 macbook pro

>>57431140
>ports
Literally who cares. Buy an adapter.

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>>57431182
So funny. You should become a clown, mate.
Also, I'd like to use my wifi when something is plugged into a Macbook Thunderbolt-wannabe port. Is there a way to do that without experiencing slowdowns, or do I have to use a separate Macbook Pro?

>>57431301
Considering I'm doing it right now, yes. But your only experience is parroting what you saw in a video of some autistic manlet "testing" things.

>>57429956
Just give up on computers

>>57431036
I ordered one after the price dropped due to the USB-C model launching.
>>57431092
The magic mouse has a capacitive top and registers left and right click based on finger placement. The top of the mouse also supports multi-touch gestures, similar to the a glass trackpad. If anything a mouse under Windows is the more simple device.

>>57431092
next you're going to tell us how can we live using PowerPC chips

>>57429956
I buy Apple because I like to think different, sitting in the coffee shop with my Pro instantly gives me an air of superiority especially when some poor fag walks in and orders a small coffee and pulls out his poor man's android phone, when that happens I get an over whelming feeling of self satisfaction washing over me and can't help but look at the poor fag with utter content and a huge smug grin on my Apple privileged face.

>>57430719
2014-15 Macbook Pro
Dell XPS 15
HP ZBook Studio G3
Lenovo p50

>>57431432
>I ordered one after the price dropped due to the USB-C model launching.
there was no price drop

>>57429956
>£1,449.00 for the base model
ignoring long-overdue pound sterling adjustments it's the same price as the old one with the 256GB SSD upgrade
>no ports
TB3 is the port of the future to rule all others
>less CPU performance than the fucking MBA or XPS13
bullshit:
even base-model has eDRAM and thus easily beats them. even with the 15W TDP CPUs.
also superior cooling with no almost no throttling.
>>more than 30% worse performance than the last gen in 3D
bullshit:
Iris with eDRAM (GT3e) makes the igpu now 100% faster
>smaller battery
battery life is the same or better.
smaller battery means thinner and lighter, so that's a good thing.
>All MacBook Pros now use "onboard SSDs" a la the MacBook, which means that even the imperfect aftermarket SSD upgrades possible on past Airs and Retina MacBook Pros won't be possible here.
a) TB3 allows PCIe 4x, thus giving you external SSDs that are as fast as internal ones.
b) MacBook Escape has some removable SSD with a proprietary slot
>no Esc
MacBook Escape doesn't have a Touch Bar and thus maintaining the old layout with a physical button.
MacBook Touch Bar still has an Escape key on the Touch Bar

Genuine question, how do you turn on the touchbar mac? They removed the power button.

>>57433785
MacBook Pro models introduced in late 2016 start up when you open their lids or connect them to power.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207104

>>57433785
it has a pressable fingerprint reader on the top right diguised into the touchbar, like an iphone home button

>>57433823
>>57433824
huh, I didn't know about this. I don't know how I feel about it but I think I don't mind that as an idea.

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>>57433528
>bullshit
NO U
>eDRAM
yey

>>57431140
>muh ports!

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>>57433824
Touch ID per se is not pressable and separate from the Home Button.

It's not confirmed that the MacBook Touch Bar actually has a button there and what it does. To start it you do >>57433823

>>57433886
it's actually pretty convenient, i didn't know how useful a fingerprint reader could be until I got a nexus 6P. the face recognition unlock on my surface book sucks (due to limited webcam angle), so fingerprint passports are still the natural progression forward.

>>57433898
so maxed out XPS 13 is 2% faster than base MBP. Good job Dell.

>>57430843
>>57433971
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>>57433971
with i7 it's still cheaper and lasts longer, smaller and lighter

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>>57434025
>cheaper
nope
>lasts longer
nope
>smaller
nope
>lighter
nope

>4 multi-purpose ports letting you make it into anything specialized you wish

Sold. Get out, poorfag.

>>57430719
A slim rock

>>57434078
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DODBSK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

at 1349 its cheaper, has a real quad core processor and a 4k screen and its a pound lighter

https://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-MLL42LL-13-inch-dual-core/dp/B01LTHXA7M/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1478565879&sr=1-1&keywords=macbook+pro

the new MBP? 3 pounds (dell is 2 pounds) smaller screen resolution, lesser processor, etc

>>57434078
>Weight 1.22 kg ( = 43.03 oz / 2.69 pounds), Power Supply: 260 g ( = 9.17 oz / 0.57 pounds)
>Price 1557 Euro
>201x304x17

>Weight 1.37 kg ( = 48.33 oz / 3.02 pounds) ( = 0 oz / 0 pounds)
>Price 1699 Euro
>212x304x15

Try harder, Apple shill.

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>>57429956
>less CPU performance than the fucking MBA or XPS13
>more than 30% worse performance than the last gen in 3D

OH REALLY??? SO HOW you gonna explain THIS???

SPECS != PERFORMANCE

https://youtu.be/NWp9k2lydtk?t=1m10s

check mate atheists

>>57434443
>SPECS != PERFORMANCE

I hate Apple and even I know this

>>57431615
>implying PPC couldn't have been superior to amd64 if applel hadn't gone Intel, moving PPC out of the consumer market, aside from a little console action

PPC, in its prime, stomped the piss out of comparable x86 chips. But hey, I get it. You're young. You weren't old enough to really enjoy PPC, and you're just regurgitating other /g/ garbage and wiki shit. It's cool. But seriously, PPC was dope as fuck until Apple decided to go x86.

That's why I won't use Apple products anymore. In the PPC days, charging a fuckload for a Mac made sense... You were getting a machine that could rape any comparable x86 machine... But when Macs basically became just a regular x86 machine with a fancy OS, the price was no longer justified. Bill Gates is probably kicking himself for bailing Apple out.

>>57434443 >>57434523
see >>57433898

Applefag here. I'm trying to download the latest OS via BitTorrent. The desktop is currently out of action and won't work until 10.12 is installed. Long story. I'm using a shitty Xperia E smartphone and slow limited public WiFi to dl the 4.7 GB file. But even now at 74.2% it's taken TWO weeks. Estimated 10 more days before it's finished. Respect to the dude who provides me a well-seeded 10.12 torrent.

>>57434554
>Bill Gates is probably kicking himself for bailing Apple out.
Why? Microsoft made a fuckton of money from the amount of stock gained and access to all Apple patents. It was one of the best things Microsoft ever did and they're now taking full advantage of it.

>YOU APPLE NIGGAS WILL EAT UP ANYTHING
so brave, OP, to come to 4chan and post this and not macrumors or whatever

truly

courageous

>>57433971
actually maxed out xps 13 has kaby lake cpu
picture is older model

>>57434554
Agreed, PPC annihilated x86, I still have some legacy PPC systems around and they're nice.

>>57433375
There was online, you can find sealed 15" with the M370X under $2000. Obviously Apple is trying to charge $2000 for a shitty Intel only still.

>>57434874
1. KBL has the same IPC as SKL.
so KBL-U with 3.1 GHz Turbo (base XPS13) will be 7% slower than SKL-U with a 3.3 GHz Turbo (base MBP)
2. Dell XPS 13's design is heavily thermally limited, you won't be able to turbo for much, but MBP will.
3. 15W KBL-U2+3e isn't out, so MBP will own it when it's memory intensive (eDRAM is basically a gigantic L4 cache) and KBL w/o Irisi will obv suck for graphics.

>>57434938
but then you should have waited for black friday

>>57434994
>so KBL-U with 3.1 GHz Turbo (base XPS13) will be 7% slower than SKL-U with a 3.3 GHz Turbo (base MBP)
also $500 less

>>57434901
x86, yeah, but not x64.

Once we reached Core 2s and then Nehalem, there was nothing that PPC did better.

>>57435074
Except multithreading.
8c64t power8 processors are a thing

>>57435049
bullshit.
comparable Dell XPS 13 with QHD, 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM is $1,449.99.
So $50 less and you get a much worse igpu.

>>57434078
It actually is all those things, you fucking retard, you're denying verifiable facts.

>>57435405
it's neither cheaper nor lasts longer. (FHD obv does not apply)
being even more lighter and thinner isn't something most people care about. especially when it's Dell doing it and fucking up thermal limits in the process.

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So now that the new MBP is a complete flop and Apple has no desktop updates, when can we expect them to sell MacOS separately?

>>57435448
>does not last longer
Proof?
>people don't care about thinner or lighter
I love macfags, I really do. For years you bitch about how thinness and lightness are the defining characteristics for a laptop and how it's what normies want. Enter the XPS that blows the macbook off the water on these 2 aspects and suddenly thin and light doesn't matter.
>thermals
Proof comparing it to the MBP?

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>>57435482
>Proof?

>>57435448
It definitely is cheaper, find me a current-gen MBP with these specs for the money:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LVZTWWX/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478572919&sr=8-1&pi=SL75_QL70&keywords=xps+13+9360

>>57435523
What exactly are you replying to? When did anyone question battery life? How about replying to the stuff I actually asked?
That's actually impressive btw.

>>57435482
it's pretty funny that PC laptops can't even beat MacBooks on specs.
not that this matters for Macfags much as the overall package is just so much superior.

>>57430962
>opinions
wew, you sure showed him

>>57435560
So macs have the best specs? Are you joking? There are PC laptops with desktop cpus.

>>57435537
>It definitely is cheaper, find me a current-gen MBP with these specs for the money:
says $1,481.63.
are we really talking about $20 difference while inferior specs (no iris).
>When did anyone question battery life?
what else could have been meant by 'lasts longer'
>How about replying to the stuff I actually asked?
most of the answers you seek are in
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-13-9360-QHD-i5-7200U-Notebook-Review.178844.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-13-Late-2016-2-GHz-i5-without-Touch-Bar-Laptop-Review.182374.0.html

>>57435674
>20$ difference while inferior specs
Ok, then show me a mac with a skylake i7 and a 256GB ssd for those 20$ more, go ahead. Because that's what I showed you.

>what else
Durability, that's what I meant although I wasn't the guy you first replied to.

>links
Those links show you wrong on the XPS not being smaller nor lighter than the MBP, which it is. Can you quote the thermal comparison? I'm on a phone. As for price, I'll wait for that magic 1500$ i7 256GB MBP.

>>57435617
comparing ultrabooks to desktop replacements makes zero sense.
But for ultrabooks:
Apple is the only one who does 28W 2+3e Intel Core U-series.
Their SSDs are always leading.
They are the only ones that use 15% faster LPDDR3 at 2133MHz.
Their screens are factory-calibrated to sRGB.
and so on

>>57435738
Aren't the 28W ones only in the top versions? I thought the 13" one came with a 15W.

>>57435761
A quick look suggests that you can only get quad core CPUs in the new 15" models, 13" models are dual core only

>>57435717
i7 is just a higher stepping compared to the i5.
Base MBP will beat it due to no thermal throttling and keeping it's full turbo at 3.1GHz as it's not a shit design like the XPS13 which does:
>Running Prime95 will cause the CPU to run at its maximum multi-core Turbo Boost speed of 3.5 GHz until core temperature reaches an alarming 99 C in a matter of seconds. Afterwards, the CPU throttles down to a steady 3.0 GHz (or 300 MHz above its base clock rate) to maintain a core temperature of 88 C.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-13-9360-QHD-i7-7500U-Notebook-Review.181471.0.html

>>57435797
>Macbook
>no throttling
lel, no enjoy your overheating 800mhz piece of shit mactard

>>57435797
Ok, that's alarming, can you quote the Prime95 test of the MBP now?

>>57434123
>i7 5500U
>quad core

Also yeah that's like a 2 gen old model. Current model can be specced with a 7500U

>>57435858
>webgl test
>using different browsers and even OS
>comparable
wait for anandtech

>>57435894
And the wifi test didn't use different browsers and OS?

>>57435901
ars is just shit.
they don't even disclose what exactly they are testing.

>>57429956
You know how I can tell you're poor? That's a 3rd gen MBP.

>>57429956
>playing games on your laptop

>>57435989
You know how I can tell you're poor? You think the 4th gen 15" MBP is already out.

>>57430801
Pretty sure in the 2017 MBP the speakers will be a $29.99 thunderbolt dongle.

test

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>>57430017
hi :(

>>57429956
>2016
>wanting holes in your devices

>>57434554
>I have no idea what I'm talking about

PPC was literally burning, wasn't able to compete with core 2 duos. Cell B.E. shared the same fate. Because IBM is full of 7agg0ts.

>>57430880
those of us who bought them because we like ZSH and bsdutils in a shiny box are pissed off.

>>57433528
>Thinner and lighter
>A good thing
Hey guys, I found the one asshole in this entire goddamn world who'd rather a thinner device than a faster and longer-lasting one.

>>57429956
>>less CPU performance than the fucking MBA or XPS13

A 2.9 GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 Skylake is slower than a 1.6 GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 Broadwell?

Lol, okay.

Even the "base" model Macbook Pro without the Touch Bar has a 2.0 GHz Core i5 Skylake, which is intended to be the replacement for the Macbook Air.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o

>>57429956
>>more than 30% worse performance than the last gen in 3D

The Intel Iris Graphics 550 on the new Macbook Pro is capable of 844.8 GFLOPs.

The Intel Iris Graphics 6100 of the previous generation is capable of 844.8 GFLOPs.

Show your math, anon.

How does the lenovo X1 Carbon compare? I'm deciding between a carbon, a mbp or a xps13

>>57429956
To be fair 1500£ is like 3,50€ nowadays

>>57439427
>,

>>57429956
>YOU APPLE NIGGAS WILL EAT UP ANYTHING
go back to high school dude

>>57439174
>gtx 745 tier performance
>in a $1,500 laptop
>inb4 power efficiency & muh light portable PC
niggers will try to run 4k on this right?

>>57442936

There's Thunderbolt 3 if you want gayman-level GPU performance.

>>57429956
It's awful. Pretty much everyone agrees on this.
Apple got a lot of shit for this and their lead shills failed to calm people down.

They don't seem to understand how much it will hurt them in the long term to scare professionals and especially developers away in favor of the pleb looking for a thin machine that can browse facebook longer than every before.

OS X's Software is what makes it so appealing. And OS X is what makes macs appealing. Giving the middle finger to the devs is an idiotic short-sighted business strategy.

>>57443091
so i need to buy another gpu for my $1300 laptop (sorry i looked it up now on appel site)? But why when a $800 lelovo laptop has an i7 6700 + gtx 950M(1,27TFLOPS), and $1200 MSI laptops have a 1060M(4TFLOPS). Why wont appel put an nvidia gpu to their workstation laptops? Nvidia writes drivers anyway.

>>57443166
>why does cheap chinese shit that doesn't last more than a year have better specs than well built laptops
gee, why does an HP Elitebook cost more than those?

>>57443248
maybe because its an business laptop that you should buy refurbished dirty cheap, or rent because you need 50+ of them and need them to have an extended warranty. I don't know anon you tell me.

>>57443248
apple is cheap chinese shit

>>57443166
2016 starts at $1500

It's comfy though. I'm sure the issues will be hotfixed soon.

>>57435450
never because they barely can patch it on their own OS on limited hardware, while usually fat arch neckbeards patch common vulnerabilities/exploits faster while spending 80% of their free time shitposting and fapping to ponies, also while maintaining better system optimization than osx, on a shit X.org enviroment (which is proven every time phoronix posts osx vs linux benchmarks on macbooks)
My theory is apple devs just wait for the bsd guys to release patches in a way so they will just have to apply them, and just work on gui.

>>57443309
salty much?

>>57443166

>wanting big mobile GPUs on notebooks when you can have the real desktop deal without turning them into giant bricks

>>57443663
i do get what you mean (since im a desktop user) but if you travel alot while working, or work in a different city, you need a good laptop. Also i see no problem if someone can afford a super gaymen pc because he wants good performance and no cables or other stupid reason , if he has the money its his choice.

>>57443166

14 year old detected.

>>57443829
>buying laptop for performance somehow suggests that you are going to game on it
>forget all the other uses a better-than-intel gpu has
I believe your joke is on you.