/wdg/ - Web Development General

>>57423407

*official thread theme

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1mZ1M4uKR0n

>>57423407
what are some tools and techniques to make responsive HTML5 pages FAST, for people who don't like HTML5/CSS/design?
for example: emmet

also, bump

Help?

var {
<video width="320" height="240" controls>
    <source src="EXAMPLE URL HERE" type="video/mp4">
</video>
}

How would I set this code as a variable, and have it listed in the file later?
I want to be able to do something like this

var //Example video/// var end

Maybe I'd have to make the video a variable as well?

>>57423857
Jesus Christ what the fuck are you even asking, Pajeet?

>>57423857

wew

I am an experienced programmer who knows C, Python, Java and a little bit of Scheme. Just got offered a full time job writing Cold Fusion. Should I take the bait?

>>57423913
no

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>>57423898
>>57423908
>pajeet
kek
I explained it better in the DPT thread


>Help me please

How would I enter a link into the highlighted text of this variable? I know how to do this in python, but I'm not familiar with HTML

Basically I want something like this
<testvar> EXAMPLE LINK HERE (Basically the variable containing the code, and the link inserted into the middle) </testvar>
To make my code look less messy/confusing

Thanks guys...

>>57423962
sir, you need to learn html first.

Rasheed Pajeet
Designated Street Shitter in Delhi

>>57423962
I would recommend stopping what you are currently doing, in favor of reading a book. Read to understand don't just skim.

If you want help you should ask a well thought out constructive question. It seems you are incapable of that because you have not done your studying. So until you do that, you are PAJEET. Everyone in this thread will now refer to you as PAJEET. Hope the curry tastes good in Mumbai faggot.

test

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>>57423407
Any cool ideas for a website that can show off l33t skills to job people?

I do php, js, linux, sql, mongo. pretty much whatever as long as there're resources to practice
>inb4 ew php

>>57423962
HTML is a markup language, not a programming language.

i completed html and css 101 today on odin.

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>>57424033

>no reply in dpg
Is there any other available free cloud like openshift that has tomcat in it? If I have to pay might as well learn aws. For some backwards reason free tier is not available for my countty

>>57424609
Is the first project still replicating the google homepage? Show us

>>57424277
Make a game w JavaScript and php/MySQL leaderboard?

>>57423753
Bootstrap. And google bootstrap alternatives for more options

how should my first portfolio look like?
I know html css bootstrap and javascript
wanna get job as front end junior webdev
should I put jquery stuff in my portfolio website
or make a few website examples, use jquery in them and put them in some gallery section in my portfolio?
an example would be also apreciated

>>57425145
Banner/nav
About me
Example projects
Contact

I put the languages I know and what I'm learning at the bottom too. Another idea is to have your example project tiles be hoverable and list the technologies you used to make them.

>>57425180
>Example projects
but I haven't done any yet
except for like in learning purposes
should I put tic tac toe game I learned from online course?

>>57425202
Yup, even if it's small things you made, if that's all you have. That's basically all my portfolio is, projects made following FCC's curriculum.

Try to also make something that solves a problem in your life, no matter how small. It'll give you something to talk about in an interview and it's applying stuff to real life instead of just making random websites.

what are some good books for learning spring mvc/hibernate/thymeleaf? I only know some java

>>57425728
http://docs.spring.io/spring/docs/current/spring-framework-reference/html/index.html right here

>>57425728
manning publication's "____ in action" are always my goto books

>>57423962
It's like I'm really on Stack Overflow.

>>57426279
people asking stupid questions?
people giving you asshole responses?

>>57423962
>have form with input type text and submit
>assign a var in text
>type url in input
>click submit
>put var in src
is this what you want pajeet?

>>57426342
>inb4 no htmlspecialchars

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I'm working on my personal website and trying to come up with something fresh, need some inspiration.

Post some ideas for functionality that could be easily achieved using PHP (preferably without making use of a db).

More importantly, post ideas for the aesthetics/design, anything that you consider interesting without being too flashy, keeping responsiveness in mind, preferably something that can be achieved using CSS3+PHP, the less JS the better.

Seriously, anything goes, let's do brainstorming in here

>>57426376
*yawns*

>>57426376
I was impressed the other day by a novel approach for a hamburger menu that used no JS. It dealt with radio buttons and CSS psuedo selectors. I'd never use it in production, but I thought it was neat enough to follow the author on Twitter.

>>57426394
>hamburger menu
*vomits*

>>57426394

I think I know which one you're talking about, I remember trying something like that, very clever indeed.

Trying to stay away from hamburger menus though.

How is Heroku lads?

What are "necessary" JavaScript libraries that you need to learn? jQuery seems to be the big one?

>>57427736
none of them are necessary and are highly region dependant
for some people jq is recommended to learn because companies in their neck of the woods are still using it
for others it's shit like react or angular

just check out companies in your area and what they're using m8 common sense

>>57427786
Yeah... no. If you don't know jquery you'll be laughed out of webdev whether your current project uses it or not

which one is better to start with for image editing on php : Imagick or gd ? (or anything else)

>>57427736

None.

It's good to learn jQuery because it wraps a lot of things that make writing pure JavaScript really lengthy. A lot of other libraries sort of use JQ as an inspiration for their own libraries.

However, when you learn it, you need to go in and learn what it is doing under the covers and what you could write without it. For example, you do not need to include jQuery just do be able to do DOM manipulation. pure JavaScript is perfectly capable of doing that without JQ's help. Just like you don't need all of JQ to do an XHR request. You can do it with pure JS, or just include a micro-library to wrap that functionality for you.

If your whole app needs a multitude of JQ features, then yeah, it makes sense, but you have to know when you just need a toothpick vs a whole Swiss Army knife that makes your pockets look really fat.

Same for other frameworks like Angular, Dojo, or React. It's good to know them, but it's really good to know how they play together. It's good to avoid using JQ when you use Angular because you'll be fighting the framework most of the time. It'll also mean that you have to load two big libraries even though Angular already has quite a bit of the JQ you'll need included in the library already.

>>57427936
Why waste server resources on image editing? Make the user's PC do it clientside.

>>57423857
use php

call the code with echo whenever you need it

>>57427936
What's the use case?

>>57427990
want to generate some image after client's information input and hide image edit processing from user and place watermarking on final result till he chooses to download it

>>57428113
client going to input basic data(like place my name, don't place my name, background my logo, place my logo on top) and some images, server will generate few images based on some templates and let's user choose which one is better(need to hide processing and wartermark final image till user chooses the image and download)

>>57427736
None, with modern JS, you shouldn't even need jQuery. I strongly recommend to not use it, and not include it as a normal part for all websites.
Better learn JS properly.

If I want to focus on backend development, do I need to know much HTML/CSS for writing some frontend tests? Like, if all I want to do is display text and have some basic forms, I could avoid CSS completely and just focus on the basic HTML tags, right? I don't care about it being pretty.

>>57428331
Yeah you just need HTML for that.

>>57428331
Yes, but you might want to know HTML well, unless your backend work doesn't require it at all.

>>57427736
nothing wrong with learning jquery, but not going past that especially not learning basic javascript just makes you pajeet level

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wish me luck

Why do so many of you say that jQuery is deprecated?

Of course you shouldn't use it for everything but it seems like a handy library for bigger projects.

>>57428511
>tripfag
>reddit

Not surprised

>>57427849
Yeah... no.

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Question about blocking IPs.
All of this is bullshit pulled from my ass so point out anything that's wrong from here on.

With ISPs who don't give every customer an IPv4 anymore but only an IPv6, they usually offer some tunnel functionality which still allows them to access IPv4 content only.

But those tunnels are shared right? So if I block an IPv4 of such a tunnel, I possibly block a few more people who didn't do anything wrong in the first place?

>>57424277
I'm going to do this.

>>57424277
>that comic

WHERE'S THE JOKE

>>57423407
Just finish php basic programming i will start mysql now :(

>>57429059
This is very interesting, please create a blog with PHP and MySQL where I can subscribe

Is anyone here using Scala?

>>57429023
I laughed at the C# one.
Despite using java for years I did not understand the java one.

>>57428614
This is an HTML and CSS forum. Take your technical questions elsewhere.

>passed the algorithmic test
>in the wrong programming langues

meanwhile

>applied to my old job
>didn't hear back from them
>realize I had their email in a spam filter that deleted anything they sent


god I feel like an enormous fucking retard and want to die

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>>57425090

i believe so, first assignment has some readings and going threw code academy html/css track.

then making android logo with html/css following a tutorial.

>>57429680
*through

>>57429680
you're trying to hard friendo

God fucking dammit. How do I vertically align text in a div?

>>57429970
<div class="verticallyaligned" id="please"> text </div>

>>57429998
I'm so sick of this shit.Since 2000 we've needed a unified method for vertically aligning shit regardless of content or display type.

Leading method seems to be lineheight which fucks with my responsive layout.

Hello guys,

Webdevs should immolate themselves with fire.

Thank you for reading ~~ ~
Bye.

>>57429970
Why can't you put a span around the text? then you can do top 50% minus 50% y transform. Ugly but works fine.

>>57427170
Anyone?

>>57430182
>t. game store clerk

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A bit OT.
How do you muster up energy to learn after a job? I don't even work 8 hours most days. Going to sleep around 23, waking up at 7:30, going to job at ~9:20/10:20 (depends). Thinking on going to sleep an hour earlier and waking up earlier. Any advice at all would be appreciated.

>>57430215
Also this doesnt work with bootstrap or pure.

Hey guys, how I could do something like this in jQuery but instead of copypasting the same thing over and over, do it programmatically, using maybe some incremental variable instead of 1, 2, 3, etc...

  $j('.product-page-1').show();
  $j('.product-page-2').hide();
  $j('.product-page-3').hide();
  $j('.product-page-4').hide();

  $j(".product-page-1-show").hover(function(){
    $j(this).addClass('active');
    $j('.product-page-0').hide();
    $j('.product-page-1').show();
    $j('.product-page-2').hide();
    $j('.product-page-3').hide();
    $j('.product-page-4').hide();
  });

  $j(".product-page-2-show").hover(function(){
    $j(".product-page-1-show").removeClass('active');
    $j('.product-page-0').hide();
    $j('.product-page-1').hide();
    $j('.product-page-2').show();
    $j('.product-page-3').hide();
    $j('.product-page-4').hide();
  });

  $j(".product-page-3-show").hover(function(){
    $j(".product-page-1-show").removeClass('active');
    $j('.product-page-0').hide();
    $j('.product-page-1').hide();
    $j('.product-page-2').hide();
    $j('.product-page-3').show();
    $j('.product-page-4').hide();
  });

  $j(".product-page-4-show").hover(function(){
    $j(".product-page-1-show").removeClass('active');
    $j('.product-page-0').hide();
    $j('.product-page-1').hide();
    $j('.product-page-2').hide();
    $j('.product-page-3').hide();
    $j('.product-page-4').show();
  });

>>57432127
disregard the $j and replace it by $ of course, this is because of prototype and some shit conflict with it and jQuery.

>>57432127

function myfunc(pageToShow) {
  for (i = 0; i < #ofpages; i++) {
    if (i == pageToshow){
      $('.product-page-' + i).show();
    }
    else {
      $('.product-page-' + i).hide();
    }
  }
}

>>57424277
>fucking lisp

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>>57432127

What do you use for RESTful api's in php anons?
Slim? Lumen? ...?

>>57432127
Add another class to each page called "product-page" and hide those, then add a data-attribute to your links and build the target class from that.

<a href="#" data-id="2">Show page 2</a>
<div class="product-page product-page-2">Page 2</div>

$('a').on('mouseover', 'a', function() {
   var target_id = $(this).attr('data-id');
   $('.product-page').hide().find('.product-page-'. target_id).show();
});

>>57432256
I wish it was homework and not me being clueless about this.

>>57432201
Thanks

>>57432328
That's awesome, thanks.

>>57432256
jej

I'm kind of confused about how SSL works. You have to pay a monthly/yearly fee for a certificate?

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Okay guys I really need your help, I'm sort of new to node and I've been reading through all the jwt docs and still can't figure out how to set a client's auth token. Help?

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Is C++ never used for websites?

If its used, then how?
I only saw rudimentary Django for Python up to yet - how does that compare?

>>57432307
Wot?

I just write my own.

>>57433117
literally everything I find tells me how to generate web tokens, but not set them

> ctrl + F
> "react"
> 2 posts.
> ctrl + F
> "webpack"
> 0
> ctrl + F
> "redux"
> 0

Lol everyone in /g/ is so out of touch with the industry.

>ctrl + F
>"jquery"
> 9 posts
Damn. You guys DO know that jquery is like using tape to build a house, right? jQuery gets unmaintainable if you build business class applications.

Use a god damn framework. Learn the NodeJS ecosystem and start with React!

Also, Angular is outdated.

/g/uys, keep up with the system!

>>57433468
>Angular is outdated
wut

> ctrl+f
> "es6"
> 0
> "Web development general"

jfc /g/.

There's a little something called Babel.js for that.
Why the hell isn't anyone using the latest version of JavaScript?

>>57433189

C++ isn't a modern language. just let it go.

What are some cool ideas for web apps? I want to mess around a bit but can't think of any neat ideas.

So far I've done
>an imageboard
>a blog
>a pastebin

>>57433551

wtf are you on about

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Is there a faster way to resize images than looping through them and changing the width/height? Maybe something involving the canvas or something.

I'm trying to mimic flickr's gallery (all images within a single row have the same height and their combined width fill the width of the gallery) but it's too slow for 200+ images.

>>57433520
Angular 1.x is still around because a ton of companies were like "omfg its made by google, it must be gr8" so there's a huge adoption that has now become fallout. Same reason why Java is still relevant, even though it's so difficult to maintain large OOP codebases.

Then Angular 2.0 came out. Still huge learning curve and high complexity. Google devs needed "muh paradigm shift" which created a shitshow.

Seriously anon, just try React. It's a one-way state management system that simplifies the way you maintain huge codebases. If you use the Redux way of state management for React, you'll probably never need another framework again.

>>57433635
t. non-enterprise dev that has never had to build a truly large application

>>57433635
nahhhhh, fuck facebook and mark fuckerburg
angular 2 seems really complex but the end results look like they're worth it

The most aggravating part of posting on /g/ is so many posters are just flat out fucking wrong, but you don't ever feel like committing that much energy into a useless internet discussion.

>>57423498

AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>57433721
>>57433468

>>57433721

>trust me, everyone's wrong.

>>57433733
see >>57433721

>>57433468
I do. The system just isn't fun. I come here for fun.

I wrote my own javascript DOM editor anyways.

>>57429970

just adjust the line height of the text with the height of the div ( if it is a one-line text )

>>57431261

or you could use Materialize's vertical alignment wrapper.

>>57433468

so don't build with jQuery, you DO know almost all of jQuery posts in here are just for UIX ? yeah, you could that in vanillaJS but jQuery encapsulated the functionality, making it easier for you to focus anything but the frontend.

What's the difference between HTTPS and SSL

Which eslint preset is the best?

airbnb?

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>>57433468
>business class applications
>nodejs

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>>57423407
Where/what are some good tutorials for making site wireframes? I'm considering starting to apply for some design jobs since there aren't too many dev jobs in my area.
Who knows maybe I'll fuck around and learn something.

I'm just tired of being broke family.

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>>57434292

What should I do with wavs.io

>>57434300

>AI & PSD to HTML
>Template Engine
>search in Pinterest/Behance or any site inspirations/galleries
>color theory

seriouly senpai, just start with OPs post, tons of fucking resources. If you don't want to be broke, just go through those. Don't be lazy.

idea guy here

it's like a website but its also a mmorpg

>>57433635
>Same reason why Java is still relevant, even though it's so difficult to maintain large OOP codebases.

what? that's like the single advantage of Java. it's good for large OOP projects.

>>57434439
Help me out
>>57434315

>>57434405
Oh, I honestly had no idea the OP had anything relating to design in it.

So it's mostly just Illustrator? I thought there would be special programs for it.

idea guy here again

it's like twitter but only porn words and videos

>>57429941
yea. made me lul none the less.

>>57434292
>>57434307
what's wrong with node?

I have 4 domain names that I want to all go to the same site. I want them all to be redirected to the page at xyz.example.com

So how do I get these to do that with rewrite rules?

For example
www.xyz.example.com
xyz.ex.com
xyz.exam.fun.com

>>57435673
You probably need to point the three domains you want to redirect away from to a web server running a script that determines where to redirect the user to based on the domain name and the path, and spit back HTTP 302 Redirect response.

>>57435732
Everything is the same after the domain name. I just have 4 different domain names registered and want them all to end on the same URL for SSL certificate purposes.

>>57435753
>SSL

You need to do that, but return a 301 instead of 302.

Some DNS providers have a system where they will take over the HTTP and do the redirects for you, but DNS protocol, by itself, can't do what you want.

>>57434405

illustrator for vectors, the rest is photoshop. >>/gd/

fuck, I'm too lazy to write html code, CSS shit is just too painful

>>57423753
Bootstrap or Foundation

>>57433077
Nice dubz, and from what I know of it you can get free SSL certificates, but they aren't trustworthy and very few browsers find them to be secure.
So the more you pay the more secure your SSL certificate is seen to be.

Someone might like to back me up though

>>57437336

>Bootstrap
>Foundation
>Materialize
>360gs
>Skeleton

just fucking one. Bootstrap has most users so more searches. Foundation has decent amounts. Either way. Its how you get shit done.

I'm tired of dynamically typed languages.
Is anyone here using a statically typed language for web development?
Go? Scala? C++?

>>57428527
Other way around...jQuery's nicer on smaller projects (unless you and your team are just coding gods). A lot easier to use a framework on a larger product to take full advantage of organization & modularity.

>>57437522

java is really popular, but obviously not trendy at all. also /g/ hates java. I think java is pretty cool, maybe I just have a soft spot for it because it was the first language I learned. there's spring and other stuff for java.

I've looked into C++ and it's really not a popular choice for webdev at all it seems.

idk about go or scala.

>>57437614
My last job was Java web development and it was comfy enough. I only disliked the resource requirements for development. Gigabytes of RAM to develop simple web services. Maybe I'll consider it again.

C++ is used by OKcupid but they seem to be pretty much alone with it
https://github.com/okws

>>57428527
Its not.
Not every company is a startup that always rides on the latest trends. A lot more are existing companies that already have jquery foundations and need to expand

Embedded Systems guy here.

Finally got inspired to properly learn me some webdev, and it's been a weird ride, all things considered.

I get the feeling that a project is not even viable unless there are at least three languages involved. I got this one (kinda-sorta-approaching) done only using Python/Flask, HTML/Bootstrap, and Javascript/jQuery.

Is this actually the case? Keep in mind, in embedded, outside of the hardware design, your project is largely going to be viable in a single language, C, or maybe Verilog/VHDL. This web thing seems weird to me on that level.

>>57437628
OKCupid is automatically on my shitlist for that shit they pulled on firefox.

...despite the fact their site is inoperable without JS

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>>57437716 (me)
Forgot my pic, screenshot of current project nearing something resembling completion. BTC tipping webapp that hooks into StreamLabs to set of alerts.

Took me like 6 weeks just to learn all the shit involved to get this far.

>>57437728
I make twitch things too. Cool.

>>57437336
PureCSS is better.

>>57437742
I feel like if it gains any sort of popularity, I could break off from the hooks into streamlabs, and instead of using blockchainInfo's API for payment verification I could afford to run a full node.

But for now, minimum viable product.

>>57437753
I'm doing the same thing. I make things those website don't have. I want to branch into their territory.

Currently making a timed text popup for BrowserSource in OBS like DansGaming and Lirik both have. Custom text, coloring, glyphicon.

Almost donerino.

>>57437753
I just realized what you wrote. Few beers in and sleepless.

>>57437772
>donerino

you just triggered me a little by reminding me of the alisha no spamerino in the chaterino vid.

but it's my fault for ever watching vids of her in the first place and being attracted to her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX7IaviW1ZQ

best resource for learning responsive design from scratch? don't care if it's video, text, whatever

also is it even worth it?

>>57437801
Why would you subject my eyes to such inhumane torture?

Angular 2 vs React. Which is better?

>>57429970
Use Flexbox. It's the modern and most sane way.

<div id="myDiv">
  <p>Minimal version, only <b>one</b> item inside</p>
</div>
<style>
#myDiv {
  display: flex;
  align-items: center; /* vertical */
  justify-content: center; /* horizontal */
}
</style>

https://codepen.io/anon/pen/jVPaWq
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Flexible_Box_Layout/Using_CSS_flexible_boxes

New to Node and just now started using template engines. Ejs seems fine but the default one from Express called Jade is the embodiment of aids on a shit stick.

Do people use these engines or is just plain html enough?

>style.css
>styles.css

which one is superior?

rate my cock
http://penis-enlargement.surge.sh/

>>57425223
Did you get a job with that portfolio or interviewing or anything?

>>57438041
I've used EJS a couple times and it was simple enough. I prefer to have a backend client that spits out JSON and a frontend client to consume it(usually angular). You can use plain HTML, but that seems painful so I would use handlebars

>>57437950
>call bootstrap
>magic just happens

Google developers has an ok responsive web design lecture

>work for web dev company
>boss is an old fart incapable of any sort of changes or innovation
>make 2-3 websites a month with full stores, directories, forums, etc
>all this shit looks the same but different colors and companies
>customers happy and shell out $50000 per site

What is this nightmare I'm trapped in.. I became a web dev to not be depressed in my work and still make big bucks. Now only 1 of those things is still true.

>>57438446
Start your own company.

What is a best way to learn javascript and then jQuery? I mean..should i use one of those sites like codecademy?

>>57437970

A fork or a spoon - which is better?

>>57424277
Kek'd.

Any places to learn Html and CSS for free? i already did most of the codecademy free stuff and looking for something else to practice and stuff.

>>57437716

You're absolutely right.

"Classical" programming (i.e. embedded) means soldving difficult problems in one language or maybe one/two frameworks.

Web development is about knowing 30 differnt technologies, that are not that difficult by themselfes, but you have to know which one to uns in which situation. That's why people talk about "stacks" in web development, because you typically have a long chain of things, starting with a server (i.e. apache) and the database (i.e. SQL), working it's way through clinet-site processing (i.e. python with flask), through the interface and the way you communitate (i.e. as API), the way you process data at the frontend (JavaScript libraries), you interact at the fronend (i.e. data bindings, AJAX requests) to the way you present it (CSS).

So people often talk about using a MEAN stack or LAMP stack, but for frontend you have so many options nowadays.. With SinglePageApplications becoming popular you have a whole new bunch of frameworks.


This is terribly confusing for beginners, but the good thing is that a lof of things is very similar. If you worked with a Python MVC framework, a Ruby MVC framework won't be too difficult for you to pick up. If you have worked with Angular2, React won't be too difficult for you. If you have use JQuery, Bootstrap will not be too difficult for you.

The questions is always, what technology do you need? Nothing wrong with a plain old HTML site with decent CSS and two JS functions. Often you don't need the tool full time web developers use, because they are there to simplify things for THEM, which doesn't mean it's better for beginners to use them.

>>57438875

Wow, you want to learn HTML and CSS?
Pretty difficult, there almost no tutorials out there..

Why would someone leanr such an exotic technology???

>>57438965
'Cause ur mom likes nerdy talk when we fuck.

>>57438984

Rude.

>>57438466
You're not wrong and this is definitely what I will do. For now though I'm just gonna keep working to pay a loan or 2.

>>57437997
>align-items: center; /* vertical */
>justify-content: center; /* horizontal */

Flexbox is the closest we've come to sane layouts, but the inconsistent naming conventions kills me

>>57429970
Two solutions: shit one and good one
>shit one
position: absolute
top: 50%
margin-top: -X //where X=height of the element
retardness: high

>good one
flexbox

>>57423857
Use jQuery. using php it's absolutely dumb. You create The variable in javascript just like you have here but replace {} with single quotes so js can interpret it as a string. You then inject it in the html with jquery, defining the places where you want them as <div class="video-wrapper></div>

Hey /wdg/

Since I have the money and ability/time to do so, I've been thinking that the right move for me would be to enroll in a code bootcamp to gain a solid sort of credential and fill the gap in my resume. I'm mainly interested in front-end work at the moment, but I wouldn't say no to learning more than that.

I've been doing some research, but things don't seem nearly as clear as they were when I've researched things like colleges. I'm in the LA area and some of the "big" players appear to be Codesmith, Hack Dojo, Sabio.la, MakerSquare, Coding Dojo and General Assembly. I've also heard that the well-known Hack Reactor and App Academy have LA divisions now.

I'm a newbie. I've done some HTML and CSS independent learning. My previous experience is only that I did some Java in high school and was able to pass the AP Computer Science test. So I'd want something that allows people with no real experience.

Do any of you guys have any knowledge about coding camps? Recommendations of any sort? Anything is much appreciated, thanks.

Do you need to know javascript in order to become a web developer?

>>57426376
nothing but css and html
make a game that works.
NO JavaScript or php
It is possible. CSS is powerfull

>>57439392
Yes
You can try networking and applying things but very unlikely you will find work and even theny ou will just have to learn in there

>>57428273
i would hate to have you in my team.
I bet you love to make everything yourself at the cost of readability and devolpment speed

>>57433609
You have css for a reason, give them classes and set the size there.

>>57439392
If you're asking 'I don't want to use programming language, is CSS+HTML enough?', the answer is no.

If you're asking 'are there other programming languages I can use in webdev?', well - you can do backend (which is also part of web dev) with Ruby/Python/Java, so yes.

help i am stuck.
the product is finished for the most part.
But the design is god awful, we even used bootstrap. Problem is, it was developed by a system engineer and 2 security specialists.
We all know how to program and build stuff, but we can't design for shit.

I want to make a simple web app with django to learn the framework, but it's so hard to come up with a decent idea for a project.

It should be small enough to be completed in a few weeks. Some kind of database driven app. Something other than a blog, or a poll or a twitter clone.

Any ideas?

>>57439584
google 100 ideas website.
Build something you want

>>57439547
read some design books & get to work
or just search up some bootstrap examples or bootstrap design winners or some shit like that and borrow design ideas from them

>>57433077
yes, they also expire usually after a year
try going to an https site like facebook. If your on Chrome click on the lock beside the address bar, view the details of facebook's certificate

>>57430833
Your mind is usually freshest in the morning. Would you rather use that for your own benefit or the benefit of some company that would have no problem firing you if it helped their bottom line?

Also, podcasts. There are loads of good podcasts out there. Listen to them during your commute and at work if you can.

>>57433117
Send it clientside to go into localstorage, then send it back with requests as a header, query param, or as a field in POST requests. You can also just set it as a cookie if you prefer.

>>57433189
I'm sure C++ is used occasionally in applications that need to be sanic speed and for some IoT/embedded stuff, but for 99% of web application use cases, it's an absolutely terrible idea.

>>57434200
>what is google

>>57434439
>>57434545
Don't be an idea guy. Nobody likes idea guys. Go make something cool and people will give you money for it.

>>57439379
Everything you need to learn about web development is available on the internet for free if you're willing to find it. It just depends on whether you value your time or your money more.

>>57439392
Technically not, but you need to know it to be an employed web developer.

>>57439701
You're the worst kind of dev one that can't read social cues whatsoever, kill yourself please.

>>57439315
Ten you surely will be happy to learn, that there's also align-content, which affects how wrapped items are placed.
I will omit vertical-align property, which doesn't affect flexboxes.

idea guy here

it's like instagram but for blind people

>>57439764
I know it is, but this would be especially to gain a type of certification and fill the (significant) void in my resume. I figure that the acceleration it can provide could also theoretically mean that I'd break even by the time I would have done everything and possibly got a job in my own. That and networking.

>>57439764
>Everything you need to learn about web development is available on the internet for free if you're willing to find it
The amount of garbage on the internet is insane. For every good answer to a problem there are at least 20 wrong ones

>>57439839
resumes dont matter, portfolios do
only bootcamps worth it are those that have all day programs, and those can be pretty intensive, also expensive as fuck
they skip out on a lot of abstract shit though, and i highly doubt any of them teach discrete math

it works for a lot of people though, dont get me wrong

>>57439860
Yeah, they sound like they can be exhausting, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

>>57439880
For sure, I'd only recommend them to people who can't go back to school for whatever reason, and struggle learning alone.

In the end, the cost pays off within a year easy in the industry, but bootcamps aren't an instant access into the industry (well excluding the fact most teachers are literally in the industry). Just like in school, you have to be developing on your own and creating a portfolio/building a name for yourself.

>>57439839
Certs aren't worth anything in web dev. What matters is that you can do the job. That means you can self-teach as a path to employment and also that a bootcamp doesn't guarantee employment (despite what they all advertise).

And I'm not saying bootcamps are necessarily a bad idea. Some people need an external kick in the ass to keep them going.

If you do go, be sure to get something tangible out of it, e.g. some projects for a portfolio.

>>57439854
If you can't sift through garbage to find good answers, you're not a good fit for a tech job in the first place.

>>57439893
It just doesn't seem like school would be a practical choice because of the far slower pacing and stuff. Are there some kinds of courses that I'm not aware of?

>>57439917
Yes, of course. Part of it for me is that it's a completely verifiable and documented use of my time instead of having to explain "well, I was learning and honing my skills" while delicately avoiding the "had no idea what the fuck I was doing and became incredibly depressed" part, you know?

The other thing is that my (very supportive) parents who I currently live with are heavily in favor of me seeking training. Mind you, I'm the one financing it, but still.

>>57439594
It's all shit

>>57439981
School is a practical choice because it teaches you abstract concepts and all of the courses build on each other (granted the program is even remotely good, I know there are PLENTY of trash programs out there that will force people to be studying software, networking, and hardware all at once with no real understanding of any of it). They'll teach you logic, discrete math, and you'll probably end up being somewhat good at either Java or C++. So you effectively end up with a really good foundation to build stuff from, and you get to meet a bunch of people who are aiming for the same thing you are and can build a network before even entering the industry.
Check schools that you'd be eligible for, and look at what programs they have. They tend to post their curriculum online in full and you can get a thorough grasp on what exactly they're teaching.

But again, as I said, you still have to put in a lot of effort on an individual level. I know friends who graduate their classes with pretty good marks and struggle to land a job because they thought they'd just get access into the industry immediately after graduating due to it being an in demand field. That's just not how this industry works, you may get lucky and slip through with minimal effort, but most of the time you have to be demonstrating at all times that you can actually solve XYZ problem.

>>57439411
Sure, there are things that might make using jQuery worthy, though in most cases you can go without it.

>Here is the list of most commonly used jQuery API functions:
>find(): Selects elements based on the provided selector string
querySelectorAll()
Alternatively: getElementsByTagName(), getElementsByClassName(), getElementById()
>hide(): Hides an element if it was visible
element.style.display = "none"
>show(): Shows an element if it was hidden
element.style.display = ""
>html(): Gets or sets an inner HTML of an element
element.innerHTML
>append() Injects an element into the DOM after the selected element
element.nextSibling.insertBefore()
>prepend() Injects an element into the DOM before the selected element
element.insertBefore()
>on(): Attaches an event listener to an element
addEventListener()
>off() Detaches an event listener from an element
removeEventListener()
Two above are even easier, if you use DOM event selectors, like element.onclick, element.onsubmit, etc.
>css(): Gets or sets the style attribute value of an element
style (e.g. element.style.color)
>attr() Gets or sets any attribute of an element
setAttribute()
>val(): Gets or sets the value attribute of an element
getAttribute()
>text(): Gets the combined text of an element and its children
innerText
>each(): Iterates over a set of matched elements
forEach()

Entries with parentheses are functions, they expect arguments and return values. Everything else are DOM elements, which can be manipulated directly, e.g.

alert(document.getElementById("myId").innerText)
document.getElementById("myId").innerText = "new text"

So, what features from jQuery do you need, that justify inclusion of library *over twice* as huge as the entire Turbo Pascal 3.02 – executable and IDE? And I'm talking about minified jQuery!

Believe me, I know my shit. You often can do much better without jQuery and your pages will be much more responsive.

>>57439547
Don't worry about that. Try to keep things simple, use only few colours.
If you don't know what colours to use, check out websites like colourlovers.com and its palettes section. You usually want a bright colour for background, dark (black) for text and one or two colours to add some accent.
Since you already use bootstrap, you have easier job with designing layout. Just use defaults provided by it and you should be fine.

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>>57440197
>84kb, huge...
Don't know what to say.

Even if you include jQuery on all your pages, the server will only transfer it once, since modern browsers will detect if you reuse components.

the barebone javascript will work faster, but the moment one browser does shit differently, you need to know what it does differently. And i simply cannot be bothered to learn something like that when there is a library that does that for you. Also the website in pic is complete garbage.

Guys, I generated an array of 50 objects in php that I converted in json, and now I would like to display it on another page, but wrapped with the proper tags that I want. Does that make any sense?

>>57440848
It's possible to do that, but unfortunately you need a Class 8 Developer License to legally display more than 49 things on a page, and as I'm sure you know the Class 8's don't come cheap these days, what with inflation and all.

>>57440921
Ah, C8. Still remember when C6 was the highest you could get. Was so happy when I got my C7 and could finally use 2 paragraphs inside a single section.

>>57440848
First figure out how to display the results with an array of 1 element. Then multiply the time invested x 49, and that's how long it will take.

>>57423857
you'll want to make the dom element

var video = document.createElement('video')
video.src = "EXAMPLE URL HERE"
video.width = 320
video.height = 240

but it's better to just store the src in a variable, and use it in your html rendering when needed.

>>57440848

mongoimport --db dbName --collection collectionName --file fileName.json

var express = require('express');
var mongo = require('mongodb');

$.ajax({
                url: 'your route here',
                dataType: 'text',
                type: 'post',
                contentType: 'application/x-www-form-urlencoded',
                data: $(this).serialize(),
                success: function( data, textStatus, jQxhr ){
                    $('#response pre').html( data );
                },
                error: function( jqXhr, textStatus, errorThrown ){
                    console.log( errorThrown );
                }
            });

$(selector).wrap(wrappingElement,function(index))

no need to thank me

>>57427170
quite convenient, if you're using standard stuff

>>57429377
we do at my work. it's ok, but a bit overwrought.

>>57440197
why the fuck are you wasting precious bytes of data when you could write that in assembly?

>>57432127
this can be done with css...
and you should learn loops in js

>>57437522
me too. using go for my next project

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>>57441146
You can't write webpages in asm, dumbass.
Backend doesn't count.

>>57437522
People use Typescript (and Pure Script for purely functional programming.)

>returning to webdev
>loyal gulp user, es6, sass and other simple stuff
>try using yarn
>yarn installs global packages to /root/ where I have no permission unless sudoed
>do something about it
>yarn installs global packages in ~, but tries to link them to /usr/bin, where I have no permission unless sudoed
>whatever, I will just add it to the PATH
>try using webpack because it is the next big thing
>set up webpack.config.js
>it actually compiles every sass stylesheet inline in .js using require()
>what the fuck
>tfw somehow managed to find a way to make external .css
>it bloats ./dist/ with empty style.js
>cant find any solution
modularized my ass, going back to gulp

>>57440197

>complaining about jquery's size

You stupid retard, 99 times out of 100 the browsers already have it cached from interacting with other websites, fuckin hang yourself.

>>57441305
if you think thats bad get a load of this guy >>57441280

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Is Codeigniter deprecated? What should I use instead of it (for fast mvc development)?

How could i get something from other page with php.
For example, i want to get title of youtube video from its url

>>57441109
>not using .done and .fail
get with the times

>>57441329
node was a mistake

>>57441409
meh, it's a hype that hopefully will die soon.

>>57441280
youre missing the point which is to modularize common code so programmers can be more quickly replaced by AI

>>57441456
I don't think tangling up all types of resources in one big mess equals being modular.

What is your opinion on Django?

>>57441686
Good balance of flexibility and prescribed conventions.

Would it be practical to write a static content web server in C as a learning exercise? Would it even be beneficial?

>>57441754
Without using any of the existing C web server frameworks, I mean.

>>57441754
It will probably make you more aware of HTTP and its intricacies, which can't hurt.

>>57441754
>>57441759
C is really, really bad language for the web, but it's quite good if you intend to write a HTTP server. You could gain some knowledge about writing network stuff. Not the best option, though. Go is more suited for network stuff, with its rich standard library.

/g/ for you, which language is best for web dev?

>>57441878
HTML

>>57441878
FORTRAN

>>57441878
rust, java, c#, php, node, python

>>57433077
https://letsencrypt.org/

>>57437469
>>57439693
You dumb.

>>57437469
>they aren't trustworthy
How so?

>>57441878
Haskell

>>57441878
memes.js

>>57441878
php mein negerino

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>>57441878
PHP is the most fun and guarantees a job because there are 10 billion lines of terrible PHP code out there that need to be maintained

>>57441878
I'd say Java but Java web projects have a high initial cost and low long-term maintenance cost.
Customers tend to be cheap and short-sighted.

It's easier to convince them to pay $2000 up front and then $2000 every year than $5000 up front and $1000 every year, because they don't WANT to believe that PHP projects often end up as unmaintainable chaos.

Guys, here were i live, there is only job for java, php and asp.net. I really like ruby on rails but not job. what should i learn?

When I used javascript years ago jquery was the standard library everyone used, but it seems no one uses it anymore. What's the best js library out there now?

fuck, why is this happening?

str = 'abc123'
return str.match(/\d{3}/)[0] //throws an exception, can't read property 0 of null

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>>57442793
Works on my machine

>>57441878

OK, I will say it so you can all shit on me: I really like Rails.

It's not the fastest, but the tooling is golden, every piece of software you can dream of is already there, everything works just fine.

And it gets better constantly. Rails 5 comes with an built-in API mode or WebSockets that use Redis. Everything is so dead simple, gotta love it...


>http://sourcey.com/building-the-prefect-rails-5-api-only-app/

>https://www.nateberkopec.com/2015/09/30/action-cable.html

>>57442673

English.

Help!

Want to overlay one stamp into image but stamp is getting dark instead of overlay main image.

        $img = imagecreatefrompng(base_url('assets/test.png'));        

        $stamp = imagecreatefrompng(base_url('assets/stamp.png'));

        imageAlphaBlending($img, true);
        imageSaveAlpha($img, true);        

        imagecopymerge($img,$stamp,80,10,0,0,imagesx($stamp),imagesy($stamp),30);
        
        header('Content-Type: image/png');
        imagepng($img);
        imagedestroy($img);
        imagedestroy($stamp);

>>57430182
as opposed to immolating themselves with water? better luck next time champ

>bored
>wanna fuck with a new API

/wdg/ recommendations for interesting JS API's to mess with

>>57442673
Java

>>57443104

D3.js + make some shiny examples => employed for life

>>57443104
Learn Scala.
That should keep you busy for a few months.

$baza_temp = "15:13:22";
$trenutno_vreme  = date("H:i:s");
$time1 = strtotime($baza_temp);
$time2 = strtotime($trenutno_vreme);
$diff = $time2 - $time1;
$vreme_rada = date('H:i:s', $diff);

Why is this not working anons?
It always add +1 hour

I have

<input value='<?php echo $_GET["id"];>?'>

of course, this is vulnerable to xss and I need to check for user on the get variable.

However, I got an error from chrome saying the JavaScript refused to execute because it's source code was found in the url when I tested my own xss using

?id=' onclick='alert('alert')

So is chromes XSS detection sufficient, or should I further escape the input? Since ID should be a number, I could just cast it to an integer anyways in php which would eliminate the possibility, but for future cases, is xss detection sufficient in browsers?

>>57442958
pretty sure imagecopymerge() is broken for alpha images.
Use imagecopy() or imagecopyresampled() instead.
>>57443660
sounds like a timezone issue

>>57443847
timezone is set
date_default_timezone_set('Europe/Belgrade');
I found something like

This is happening because using date(, ) returns epoch (00:00:00 01 January 1970 UTC) + the number of seconds in the timestamp. It will localise itself to your timezone, so if you provided it with a timestamp of 0 it would return 01:00:00 01 January 1970 UTC+1.

but dont know how to fix it

>>57442525
>interactive
>php, which is static

lel

>>57441878
i hate php but it's so damn easy to use.

>>57443879
ah right, well a difference in time is not really a "date" but an interval. so use the datetime class instead of strtotime()

//$now=new DateTime("@".time()); //unix timestamp
$time = new DateTime("21:52:00");
$now = new DateTime("now");
$interval = $time->diff($now);
echo $interval->format('%H:%I:%S')

With sites like www.wix.com
Why should I bother learning front-end again?

>>57444508
Wix is good for showing information or CMS type websites, but not very good for doing stuff. If you want to make a website for some restaurant, then yeah wix is fine, but if you're making enterprise software or a website that DOES something, then you should learn frontend.

For example:

http://alissa.ninja/paint

Make this in wix

>>57444779
good point

I am using <select> values in a statement to add a class but when I change the select values it won't update the class function and works only with the default value what am I doing wrong?

My client blocks font downloads.
Can I still use Glyphicons?

>take a javascript test
>I do the promise section without using promises because I didn't understand them
>they want another interview
>realize I didn't do it right

what do I do

>>57438947
So I'm looking on hackernews now and then (Hey, it's the closest thing me the Embedded/ECE guy can find to a larger community of proper engineers) and I have to wonder, how much of web dev really is just people grabbing some rando lib from some schmoe on GitHub with eighteen "BUILD PASSING" badges on his Readme.md, and just importing/pasting it in with no thought into what the lib is actually doing under the hood?

This is a problem in all fields of programming but my cursory glance makes me feel like it would be much more pronounced in web, mostly because of the gigantic bodge of "stacks" required.

I mean, I've got to admit I did that once or twice for my own project.

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i have a form submit button with a background image that has alpha.

is there a way just using css to make the transparent parts of it unclickable?

>>57445963
Why is it important to make a part of that button unclickable?

>>57445981
i'm trying to make it overly obnoxious.

>>57445987
You need a <input type="image">, a map, and some patience
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_area.asp

>>57446007
thanks, but I'm trying to do this through stylish. I can only really work with the html that's already there.

>>57446041
>stylish
Well, fuck.

>>57433551

>There's a little something called Babel.js for that.
Fuck that babel and that guy fieri bullshit. You have no idea what's inside those deeply nested node-module catacombs.

>Why the hell isn't anyone using the latest version of JavaScript?
Tell that to browser vendors and not us, you Donald Duck supporter!
Hillary for the win!

>>57446979
This!

>http://pastebin.com/4YeJAUbT/
>@Leapforce :
>--Pay 13.50/hr
>--Search evaluation work max:40hr a week
>--SmartPhone required
>--leapforceathome.com

>@Appen(Formourly ButlerHill)
>--$13.75/hr
>--Search evaluation work/Crowd Sourcing
>--http://www.appen.com/company/opportunities/


Has anyone ver tried one of those or have more information about the jobs? I'm kind of desperate for money, but I dont want to get into a scam.

>>57423913
No. cold fusion is outdated.

What does /wdg/ think about Aurelia?

>>57445427
Another interview means they want you
Just in case bullshit your way and try to look at flaws so you can say why you didn't use it and don't practice it often

Guys, I have a select with several options, like A-Z, Z-A, and I would like when clicked to change my URL to something like 4chan.org?sort=price&val=AZ or something of the sort.

I dont even need to do the actual sorting, just update the URL on click. I know I'm probably supposed to use $_POST and shit but I'm retarded and am new to PHP.

Google isn't helping much.

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How do I make .left the same height than .right?
http://www.cssdesk.com/xSaVe

>>57423913
its a job quit being a dick. Take it son, or it will be outsourced.

Oh wait Trumps going to lay down his dick in outsourcing:-)
NO P00 IN L00

>>57424277
Laughed pretty hard. I feel like python is the same as GO's comic strip there sometimes (Jython and the 1000x other python compilers and interpreters).

>>57448884
Use flexbox for columns and align-items: stretch.

>>57442958
>>57443847

But what if I want to overlay second image applying some transparency

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>>57449097
YOU FUCKING FUCK!
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU TEACHING NEWBIES TO USE FLEX, WHEN IE DOESN'T SUPPORT IT?!
FOR FUCK'S SAKE, TEACH NEWBIES GOOD PRACTICES

>>57449450
>IE
>in 2016+
*giggles*

>>57449462
>global use 5%
>potentially alienating 5% of your visitors
*giggles*

Oh, wait, I forgot, you've never produced anything of value, so you wouldn't know the impact that 5% of your visitors can have.

>>57449450
IE 11 supports it.
I think it got abandoned anyway, and is now called Edge.

>>57449494
>Partial support is due to large amount of bugs present (see known issues)

>>57449479
*giggles*
You're projecting unfortunately. I would love to be a neet though, sounds pretty great to not have to do anything and still get by.

>>57449509
>literally doesn't even provide an argument
Oh shit, I forgot I'm in /g/. Nevermind, cunt.

i'm using Image Manipulation Class from codeigniter, is there an way to manipulate an uploaded image and show it without saving it?

Like :

$config['source_image'] = 'test.png';
        $config['new_image'] = 'test2.jpg';
        $config['wm_text'] = 'Copyright 2006 - John Doe';
        $config['wm_type'] = 'text';
        //$config['wm_font_path'] = './system/fonts/texb.ttf';
        $config['wm_font_size'] = '16';
        $config['wm_font_color'] = '000000';
        $config['wm_vrt_alignment'] = 'bottom';
        $config['wm_hor_alignment'] = 'center';
        $config['wm_padding'] = '-15';
        
        $this->image_lib->initialize($config);

        $this->image_lib->watermark();

>>57449522
imagine being this mad on /g/

>>57429382
>Despite using java for years I did not understand the java one.
Android forked Java.

>>57450068
>>57449522

>>57450062
You can store the image with a timestamp, and delete old images after a day with a cronjob.

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holy shit wtf? why is codecademy so shitty?

>>57450854
Just.. wew..

>>57450854
top kek

Here's a question buddies

On what languages can a shopping cart be made from 0?

>>57450854
god fucking damnit

>>57450854
why are you on codeacademy to begin with?

>>57450896
Troll, do not reply.

>>57450854
haha

>>57450854
CA > FCC

>>57450196
Do you mean Android uses its own VM instead of the JVM? Regardless that doesn't explain the joke.

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>>57423407
what languages count to be considered a "programmer"? is JS enough?

>>57451259
html :D XD

>>57451317
Programming in HTML & CSS is actually CompSci-PhD-tier.

>>57450854
i fell for it

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>spend 30 minutes reading through docs
>oh shit it actually makes sense
>I can finally finish my project
mfw using a different version of express and it doesn't work
mfw have to do the shit all over again
every fucking time.

>>57451259
TrumpScript or go home

>>57452076

is_president = TREMENDOUS

if is_president == WRONG:
    sue_media()
    build_wall()

I've got an oral javascript exam for a job today. These people seem algorithm-oriented. What do I review?

Someone can explain this javascript please:

var abc = def => {
stuff here.
}
similar:
var abc = () => {
stuff here.
}

>>57452564
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Functions/Arrow_functions

>>57452659
Fuuuck thanks!