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/hpg/ - Headphone General

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-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --

>Headphone purchase advice
http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

Please put some effort into your requests and questions.
If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

>Previous thread:
>>57359117
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Reposting again from previous thread.

Budget
£60
>Location
UK
>Source
computer
>Preferred type of headphone
iem
>Open or closed
N/A
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
neutural,
>Past headphones
sennheiser momentum on ear, senfer UE, dzat df10, various gaymur headsets.

My senfer UE died in one ear, and I can't use them anymore, so I want a pair of iems to replace them, that will (hopefully) last a long time.
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I have no idea what the hell I'm doing but how is this: https://www.amazon.ca/Audioengine-D1-24-Bit-Computer-Interface/dp/B006IPH5H2

1. As an amplifier
2. As a way of getting audio from an optical cable to headphones
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>>57396792
It works.
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Hey guys what are your recommendations for wireless earbuds?
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The HD600 went from £220 to £370, whyyy
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>>57397351
people like them more than 650s so they sell for more
got mine for $270 here
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>>57396792
https://www.amazon.ca/SMSL-Decoder-Headphone-Amplifier-Computer/dp/B01FRVTE2G/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1478354046&sr=1-1&keywords=smsl+m3

just get this
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>>57396792
It'll do what you want, but you can get identical/better sounding options for about a third of the price.

As another anon suggested, the SMSL M3 is a good alternative, along with most of SMSL's cheaper DAC Amp Combos, and some Fiio combos.
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Is the hd800 a good buy if I don't have balanced outs?
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>>57398246
they're oddly actually extremely dependent on your amplifier.
buy them if you have the ability to return them
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>>57398246
How much is it? Save up for Focal Elear.
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Who among you thinks to have reached the audio Nirvana? By audio Nirvana I mean a rally falt and neutral equalization, where every instrument can be heard perfectly without bleeding into other instruments.

The longer I listen to music through my equalized K702, the more I believe into the magic of equalization.
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>>57393370
>>57393435

fell asleep from last thread

im a sucker for looks and since im retarded i just want these. 250 or 600 help me pls
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Guys, I have a Schiit Valhalla 2 amp, and Micca mb42x speakers.

When I connect them with a RCA to speaker wire the Speakers are VERY quiet at full volume.

Did I fucked up, am I missing something that these speakers don't perform with this amp?
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HD6XX is gonna be the new meme headphone.

Calling it.
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>>57398633
Considering the price it's sold, it's probably going to snap in like 4 days.
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>>57398645
The snap meme isn't real.

Sennheiser just likes to overprice their shit.
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>>57398561
>EQ
Almost as bad as the tube amp shills.
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>>57398707
> I never tried eq in my life and i want to believe that my headphone is the best in the world
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>>57398722
>spends $200 on shiddy akgs and eqs them

why didn't you buy a $5 headphone if you're gonna eq?
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>>57398707
You'd hate to be a musician, tube amps are king for guitars.
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>>57398722
I avoid altering the music as much as I can.
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>>57398769
Comfort, physical features and form factor must be considered when considering a headphone.
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>>57398788
son, your headphone alters the music
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>>57398788
Altering the music isn't the purpose of EQ, dude. The purpose of EQ, at least to me, is to compensate the headphone's flaws in order to achieve better sound balance.
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>>57398807
Yes I don't need to make matters worse with software.
>>57398825
>Altering the music isn't the purpose of EQ, dude.
Pretty sure that's actually the exact purpose of EQ software.
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>>57398886
>Yes I don't need to make matters worse with software.
You're altering the signal to compensate for the headphone's frequency response.
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>>57398917
You understand that is subjective at best right?
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>>57396453
Where's the anime?

>>57398561
Proper EQ is amazing. Can't live without it. Same with monitor calibration when doing photo work.

>>57398787
But that's different. In production anything goes that sounds good. In reproduction, avoiding all coloration is the only way to hear that original sound which was recorded such as the soft clipping of a triode guitar amplifier.
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>>57398788
So why don't you EQ? That's the point of it.
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I hate my life and think about suicide daily. What are the best headphones for me?
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>>57399327
Focal Utopia Tournaire
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>>57399316
>headphones
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>>57399379
The principle and effect is exactly the same and with headphones EQ is more effective and easier because...

1) They are almost always minimum phase meaning the filter you create in EQ yields a corresponding effect in the magnitude response. You can fix almost all problems in the response with PEQ.
2) You don't have to worry about room response or off axis performance. You have a one simple response to correct.
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>>57399448
Do you put a mic between your ears and headphones to calculate the response?
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>>57399541
Why would you do that though?
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>>57399566
To calculate the error and apply the correct EQ to get a flat response? What kind of error do you mean?
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>>57396453
Why does she wear the mask?
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>>57399614
But there are plenty of measurements online, no need to to make your own measurements.
I didn't mean any kind of error by the way, not sure what you are talking about...
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>>57399632
so cyber banditz cannot identify her
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>>57399316
>near 100 dB difference
So why don't I EQ? Because I'm not a fucking idiot.
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>>57399632
Probably too much mid-bass, that shit can mask everything...
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Are these great for the price just ordered my first t400 and wanna pair them with something https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16826106247 will be used mostly for nice non nig music and Chinese cartoons.
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My situation:

>always loved ear buds
>pic related was always so comfy
>got in-ear headphones once, and was immediately uncomfortable
>never bothered with them again
>I either have clogged ears, or my hearing is damaged because I can hardly hear people
>friends suggest in-ear headphones because it's noise cancelling and I don't have to crank my volume up

>for my job / for gaming on my Xbox One, I need to have headphones with a mic component
>what's suitable for me if I want my """first""" comfy in-ear headphones with a good audible mic
preferably through amazon so I can do exchanges if necessary
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my new headphones have one side quieter than the other, but I don't know if I can return them because I broke the containing box. What do?
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>>57400639
what headphone? if its anything like solo 2 beats you need to recable the inner cable because it folds making the cable worse overtime
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>>57400677
Etymotic HF5
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how important is a detachable cord? will a non detachable cord last for 3+ years?
are you supposed to clean it every week?
how are you supposed to store headphones after use?
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So I'm probably going to pick up a HD6XX on Tuesday simply because I've never owned high-end Senns. Only problem is that from what I gather, my little Fiio E10K just isn't going to cut it, so I need to grab a new DAC/AMP as well.

Does anybody have recommendations for a reasonably low cost setup that pairs well both with AKG K7XX's as well as HD6XX (relabled HD650s)? I was looking at The Element by JDS labs which definitely has the power required, but I've read that HD650s don't play nicely with neutral signatures like that of The Element.
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>>57400853
O2+ODAC
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>>57400864
how is it better than the smsl m3 or fiio e10k?
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>>57399541
No, logarithmic sine sweeps are the way to test the response for headphones. Using a measurement coupler adds another layer of issues to filter out before equalizing.
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so what are the current go-to earbuds for 20-ish dollers?

i just went to buy some xiaomi pistons 3 but they're out of stock everywhere
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>>57400935
American made. Two years warranty. Powers everything except for AKG K1000 or Hifiman HE6. Online measurements from Innerfidelity and Nwavguy performance is very good compared to expensive DAC/Amps.
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>>57400853
For the price of the Element you'd be better off with the Schiit stack Magni/Modi 2 Ubers.

Actually made in America and uses high quality parts. (inb4 that child comes in saying Murata/Matsushita caps are made in China again)
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>>57400853
Similar question here. Was thinking of picking up the Element and the ATH-R70x. Can anyone tell me if this is a good idea? All I have at the moment is a pair of sennheiser cx500 IEMs and some shitty razer headset. Thought it was time to seriously up my audio game.
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>>57401038
>O2 ODAC
>American made
made.
No
>>57401111
Go with a Schitt stack or Jotunheim.
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>>57401150
>>American made
https://www.jdslabs.com/
Scroll in the middle.
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>>57401174
>https://www.jdslabs.com/
They machine the chassis. I'm told they use quality caps now but that wasn't the case when they started and I have no idea where their pcb manufacturer is located.
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>>57400853
>my little Fiio E10K just isn't going to cut it
lol idiot
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Is there a reason why my tiny mp3 4gb player (those sony ones that were the size of a finger) has better sound overall than my onboard realtek HD 889?

the PC just hurts my ears, while the mp3 player is quiet and has more wide sounds, it sounds just good

I am doing something wrong on the computer? i have no eqs or anything at all

Is it because the drivers? i really wanna find a solution to this, i am sure it can sound good, i need a light
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>>57401476
Mind elaborating? Nothing I've read suggests that the E10K is a good match for HD650s.
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>>57401624
Windows stock audio resampling. Stop using the default DirectSound and use exclusive audio mode. https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Audio_Output_Modes

Your mp3 player doesn't use Windows resampling. It makes exclusive audio on its own.
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>>57401666
do the calculations yourself. an iphone can bring the hd650 to listening volumes, it just won't have the headroom to absolutely blast them.
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>>57398561
>K702
>not a 20dB bass boost
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>>57401673
>doesn't know how to use a better resampler so he can avoid poor upsampling by windows but still not have to deal with exclusive stream bullshit
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>>57401695
What's the alternative? What's better than DirectSound?
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>>57401624
Less electrical noise. A battery is infinity quieter than a computer power supply. Plus the parts or implementation could be better.

I got an old receiver that's better than most modern compact dacs. It just trades size and power consumption. Plus has an old school full size discrete digital attenuator. That's pretty great.
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>>57401715
>"better resampler"
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>>57401679
It's about more than volume. Yeah, the iPhone can drive demanding cans to some extent but it's going to sound like shit.
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>>57401722
Such as? Spoonfeed me.
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>>57401736
>It's about more than volume
no
>but it's going to sound like shit.
no

>>57401744
SoX
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>>57401773
Then why is it my K7XX's get full detail at comfortable volumes when hooked up to my E10K but have to be turned up uncomfortably loud to get that same detail when driven by my MBP or iPhone?
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>>57401852
>get full detail
what does this even mean?
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>>57401689
Only white people are allowed to post here
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>>57401736
That's wrong, but I can see why casual and untrained listeners such as yourself make that statement.

At lower volumes your perception of treble and bass is different than at higher volumes.

When you listen to something at a lower volume, for example on an iPhone and compare it to a dedicated audio device such as a FiiO E10K which can output greater volume, you're not doing a fair comparison since you're most likely listening to the FiiO E10K at a higher volume.
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>>57401673
I tried Kernel Streaming on XP but the realtek drivers are still required to play, or am i doing something wrong? i am using foobar and windows XP.

>>57401716
When the music is off i cant hear any noise unless i increase the volume to the max.
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HD600 or HD650?
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>>57401984
>When the music is off i cant hear any noise unless i increase the volume to the max.

You're thinking of noise floor, not distortion.
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>>57402350
HD6XX
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>>57396453
Are the red shure se535ltd worth their price? definitely wanna go with shure but am unsure about the value of their higher end models
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>>57402350
HD650/6XX > HD600
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What are the best iems for >$100, in terms of sound and comfort.
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>>57402350
HD 600 but if you EQ doesn't matter.

>>57403883
>is it worth it

>>57404343
>what's best for me guys
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are custom eartips a worthwhile buy
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what's your .asoundrc (or pulseaudio dameon.conf settings)? my audio sounds really bad on a good dac and i don't know why
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>>57405296
I never got used to them I prefer foam or rubber. And foam is a lot more hygienic for me anyway since I just throw the tips away.

Some people love them but I think they're a pain in the ass to get and I was left with disappointment when I finally got them.
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>>57405376
Because your headphones are shit
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>>57405404
i don't think any headphone was designed to sound this shit
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I've never been happy with sound quality for my headphones in my life, only contempt.
Been living on cheap shitty headphones until I fell for the m50 meme and I fucking regret it, sounded tinny as fuck at the beginning and after a while I realized how muddy everything sounded as well as no bass and uncomfortable as fuck.
In a few months I realized I didnt actually have audio drivers installer which helped that it wasn't quiet at 80% but it sounds even worse now, everything has that "simulated room" feel to it and it feels really cheap.

Please give me some advice /hpg/ all I want to do is listen to some decent audio.
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>>57405499
beyer dt990 pro are really cheap right now
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What's the cheapest full-sized headphone that you can think of that is not absolute shit?

Think pajeet tier cheap.

I would value comfort slightly more than the audio quality, but obviously I'm not asking much of either.
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>>57405861
Not absolute shit? Superlux HD 668B with velour earpads and padding over the driver to kill the deathly highs

or just Superlux 662 EVO no mods

that said, you can almost always find better second hand stuff for cheaper.
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>Budget $250-$300 USD
I need a good external AMP and DAC for DT 990 600 Ohm
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Hey guys, I'm looking to get a new pair of headphones.

>Budget
$150-$300 AUD

>Location
Australia

>Source
Primarily my PC.

Would like to be able to use them for my phone occasionally

>Type of headphone
Full sized, circumaural.

>Open or closed
I've only used closed, but I'd try open.

>Comfort level
I'm looking for something good for long listening, nice and light, and not pinching me too tight.

>Sound signature
preferably neutral

>Past headphones
ATH M50

Decent headphones, a bit heavy, uncomfortable for long periods.
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Best athletic/audiophile/noise canceling headphones? The mee m6 pro looks pretty good for a somewhat decent price.
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How bad is this?
http://eu.akg.com/product-support-detail_eu/k404blk.html
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>>57407161
Sennheiser HD 600 if you can find them for cheap,
or if you dont mind a slight V-shape [i mean very slight] look at the HD 650's
theyre being released on massdrop as HD 6XX for 200 USD [~260 AUD]
They'll take a fair while to get to you, but for the price they'll be absolutely worth it.

Though for those you /may/ need an amplifier, depending on what source you have
A laptop or somewhat newer mobile will power them fine.

You may also want to look at Sennheiser HD 558/598
Theyre not quite on the same level as the HD 6?? Series, but theyre very good, and likely won't need an additional amplifier.

Another alternate is the AKG K612/K7XX [if it comes back to massdrop]
Though you still have the issue of sealing on AKGs
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>>57407225
Those aren't noise cancelling. Google what noise cancelling is. I don't think you quite understand it.

Though the M6 are good if you don't want Shure IEMs
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>>57407375
>HD650
>V-shape
stop posting
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>>57407309 here.
I mean objectively.
I don't really know what I'm doing but this fits my budget.
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>>57400935
smsl m3 can power the t50rps so it shouldn't have a problem with hd600s. the e10k is the same league as the m3, so it will power the hd6xx without a problem.
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>>57407375
>if you dont mind a slight V-shape [i mean very slight] look at the HD 650's
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I'm looking to buy new headphones.

I'm trying to decide between Sennheisers HD598 and HD7. I know the HD7s need an amp and that is not a problem.

I listen to rock, classical, acoustic, jazz and reggae mostly. Not a lot of bass-heavy music, metal or vocals.

Which ones would you recommend?
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>>57407508
dont bully
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>>57407510
HD 598
They're brilliant for orchestral and classical.
And if you don't listen to much bass heavy music, then you probably don't want the HD7, since they're quite bass heavy.

They have good extension in both highs and lows, but are quite forward in the mids too.

The only advantage the HD7 has over the 598 is that they're closed so they wont leak and they're more isolating.
Unless you're planning on using them in public, its a non-factor

The HD7 will also be less comfortable and less detailed in the highs.
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>>57407586
>Unless you're planning on using them in public, its a non-factor
Yeah, I'm buying them for when I'm inside. For commuting/outside I use in-ear headphones.

Thanks, HD598 it is then.
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>>57400126
Klipsch Image R6m. Most comfy earbud tips in the market for me, come with an inline mic, and not too expensive.
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>>57399327
Happy plugs
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Bought a pair of these and fucking hell are they good.
Literally the only complaint I have is that the headband is a bit narrow and could use a bit more padding.
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>>57407887
get one of these
http://www.ebay.com/itm/391507605337
can be had on amazon for a bit more if you want it to ship faster
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>Budget
$200
>Location
USA
>Source
iPhone
>Type of headphone
Over ead
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
medium something to wear when doing school work and working out
>Sound signature
I guess nuetral, up for other suggestions
>Past headphones
ATH-A900x
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>>57408038
Oh yeah, I've seen those. Looks comfy, I might get one if the foam in the regular headband doesn't soften up over time.
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>>57408074
Forgot to mention they need to be wireless.
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>>57408075
I will say that they do sag on your head a bit. You can use a bigger rubber band to kind of tie the head bands together to prevent the sag. They are very comfy though
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>>57398621
It's a headphone amp, your speakers sound quiet because they're not getting enough power.
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>>57398621
Youre trying to power speakers with a headphone amp dude
kek

Go buy a Lepai or Nobsound amp
Theyre cheap.
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>>57398633
If they werent such a limited production, they may have been a gr8 meme.
Lets hope the production quality isnt aids like massdrop exclusives often are.
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>>57408440
>>57408668
>RCA to speaker wire
He's not even using the headphone amp, he's using the preamp, so he's essentially running his speakers from the 2V line level from his DAC.
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>>57408708
oh shit youre right
kek
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>>57396453

>Budget
<$100 aud
>Location
australia
>Source
computer
>Type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
must be comfy
>Sound signature
i think neutral would be best? i'll be using them for games and music
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Budget
$250
>Location
US
>Source
Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Extra Comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Logitech G430

My G340's are dying
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>$20 budget
>need gaming headset

please help
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>>57408953
literally doesnt exist unless you want complete aids tier chinese trash
headsets are shit anyway

even headphones at that price are all shit

just get some earbuds/IEMs with an inline mic
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>>57408953
>everything about this post
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>>57408953
monoprice 8323 with some lapel mic
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>>57401744
just use wasapi(not sure it works with XP), and god, you use the worst windows for sound
xp has stuff from 95 and uses it actively
time to upgrade grandpa
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>>57407375
Are you sure it's 260 AUD? You forgot to include shipping making it 280 AUD or so.
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>>57407309
>>57403902
>>57404343
>iem
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>>57408953
superlux hd681 + $1 lapel mic
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>Budget
150-200 bucks

>Location
Germany

>Source
Smartphone (iPhone 7)

>Type of headphone
Bluetooth

>Open or closed
Don't dare

>Comfort level
I watch movies and shows all day so it should last a while without getting too uncomfortable

>Sound signature
Balanced

>Past headphones
Sennheiser Momentum

Thanks in advance
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>>57408869
im in the same boat as this anon
g430 are the perfect amount of comfy but one of the hinges has partially snapped
i dont need a headset any more though, i have an external mic
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>>57409685
Youre right. Figured massdrop did free shipping.
Either way, its under 300.
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Is HD6XX 90% there to Focal Elear? Has anyone compared them both?
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>>57410489
I meant the HD650
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>Budget
100-150 ish Dollars for the headphones only

>Location
Norway

>Source
Computer

>Type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
Open, heard from some friends that they are great for music and gaming (mostly what ill do)

>Comfort level
Something that i can wear for atleast a few hours for gaming, but i take small breaks to get food and or something to drink

>Sound signature
Neutral, can listen to suggestions

>Past headphones
Logitech 430 (or something similar can't remember from the top of my head), Corsair Vengeance 1500 (current)

>Some additional notes
Been looking at audio-technica ath-ad500x and Sennheiser HD 598, are they worth it?
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>>57410489
More like the Elear is 90% the HD650
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>>57410551
Open definitely is better if you dont live in a noisy environment.

ATH-AD series has the best imaging of any headphone in the price range, which is what you want for 'competitive' shooters like CSGO or Overwatch.

That said, they lack low end considerably, have quite bright and present highs, and they may not be comfortable, depending on if you like the sort of 'winglet' head support type.

HD 558/598 is quite similar, but is a warmer and more pleasant sound. They would be better for music/all round stuff.

The 558/598's will have better soundstage too, which is often quite nice.

In my opinion, the 558's are better for most people, but the 598's look killer desu. Both are extremely similar though. You probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them without a couple hours of listening and switching headphones.

The 558's are warmer than the 598's, and dont have quite as much highs as the 598's. This results in slightly less percieved detail and sparkle in the highs, but trades off to a more easy going sound. Up to you which you value more. They have slightly more low end too.

Both headphones have very good imaging. Not quite on the level as the the AD series, but very close.
But again, you'd need to listen to both back to back to really notice much.

598's also have a harder leather like material as the headband. Some like it, some don't. I do.


And its best to look at the 558 and 598 as competing headphones rather than one being better than the other. Keep that in mind if you demo them.
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>>57410675
Thanks for the advice anon. The 598 looks really nice compared to 558, i do agree on that.

If i were to buy HD 558 or the 598, im guessing that is a good idea to get an amp for it as well? Suggestions on what to look for? Video or a turotial somewhere on what to look for on headphones would be nice if you could link/redirect me to.

Also, is the Antlion Audio ModMic a good mic for the price? I just use the mic for talking to people so studio quality on the audio isn't a big deal for me. Are there better and or cheaper options for a mic that i can have on the headphone?
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>Budget
$80
>Location
US
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
na
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
Balanced or bass
>Past headphones
Heck off son, i cant remember.
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>>57405376
defaults.pcm.card 1
defaults.pcm.device 0
defaults.ctl.card 1
defaults.ctl.device 0
defaults.pcm.rate_converter "speexrate_best"


## modified from "http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Alsa"

# the sound card
pcm.real {
type hw
card 1
device 0
}

# the ipc stuff is needed for permissions, etc.
pcm.dmixer {
type dmix
ipc_key 1024
ipc_perm 0666
slave.pcm "real"
slave {
# period_size 4096
# buffer_size 32768
rate 96000
format "S24_LE"
}
bindings {
0 0
1 1
}
}

ctl.dmixer {
type hw
card 1
device 0
}

# software volume
pcm.softvol {
type softvol
slave.pcm "dmixer"
control {
name "SoftVol"
card 1
}
min_dB -50.0
max_dB 0.0
resolution 100
}

# input
pcm.input {
type dsnoop
ipc_key 3129398
ipc_key_add_uid false
ipc_perm 0660
slave.pcm "810"
}

# duplex device
pcm.duplex {
type asym
playback.pcm "softvol"
capture.pcm "input"
}

# default devices
pcm.!default {
type plug
slave.pcm "duplex"
}

# for oss devices
pcm.dsp0 {
type plug
slave.pcm "duplex"
}

I also blacklist the onboard drivers
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>>57410760
The 558/598's are very easy to drive. An amp would only give you a 5-10% increase in sound quality. They may sound slightly fuller and have a bit more soundstage.

And unless your Mobo/soundcard has a line out, you'd probably benefit from a dac/amp combo rather than just an amp.

Best options are SMSL M3, Fiio E10k, and the Schiit Fulla.

Imo the SMSL is the best out of the bunch because you get better build and more features than the Fiio. Both are quite transparent and sound good.
The schiit is only there if you need something small or dont need any other features.

As for microphone, the Modmic is perfectly fine. For price, its not actually that great sounding, but that is comparing it to desk mics and other shit. The Modmic has very little competitors, and the only well known one you can't even use on the 598's without an adapter

For nearly 50 dollars you can get a decent full desk set up if you head over to >>/g/csg/

BM800 + boom/stand + phantom power for around ~30 USD
Sounds better than mics well above its price range.
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>>57410955
fuck
messed the /csg/ part up
here
http://boards.4chan.org/g/csg
im too tired
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>>57410955
>>57410960
Thanks for the info, think ill just drop the amp one, and go for the mic combo that you suggested.
really nice that someone is helpfull and going a bit in depth on why something is better than just "buy this" that so many like to say instead.
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>>57411147
No worries. The more info the better.
So wait, which mic are you going for?
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>>57411206
Oh damn, didn't spesify that.
Going for the BM800 + boom/stand + phantom power.
Sounds like a pretty cheap option and if it is better than the ModMic ill go for that instead since i do have the space for a real Mic + stand for it.
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>>57407417
>>57407508
Depends on the target, on Harman they are very slightly V-shaped. They can also appear V-shaped on some measurement couplers. Subjectively they don't sound V-shaped at all to me.
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>>57411228
Righto
Prices went up since I got mine a while ago. Closer to 40 USD now.

Though heads up, the BM-800 is made and sold directly from china, so It's normal to have month long shipping times.
Also probably a good idea to use paypal when buying it.

Here are some links to shit. May be able to find them cheaper elsewhere. Be aware that the BM has sort of 'rip offs'. They sound identical, but have worse shock mounts. [not metal]


[Mic]
http://www.gearbest.com/speakers/pp_193557.html?wid=21

[XLR Male to Female]
http://www.gearbest.com/cables-connectors/pp_194221.html?wid=21

[Phantom Power]
http://www.ebay.com/itm/48V-Phantom-Power-Supply-with-Adapter-for-Condenser-Microphone-US-plug-NEW-/291872848426

Youll need the right adapter for the supply. You can find international to euro ones everywhere for a couple bucks.

[Mic Stands (Whatever size you need/want)]
http://www.gearbest.com/speakers/pp_238093.html
http://www.gearbest.com/microphone/pp_452970.html
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>>57411433
Snowball will be $30 again on black friday
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>>57411593
BM-800 sounds better and has better pickup range once properly powered.

Only advantage the snowball has is that it requires little set up and is extremely simple to use/
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Planning on getting myself a good pair of headphones for Christmas next month. Looking for some recommendations, I've never really bothered looking into headphones/audio in general, so I'm asking /g/.

>Budget
Willing to spend up to €800 (or a bit more if there's a phenomenal increase in quality for the extra money)

>Location
Netherlands

>Source
PC/Phone (I travel 4 hours back and forth by bus everyday for work)

>Type of headphone
Over-ear

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Pretty comfy, since I'll be wearing them multiple hours a day

>Sound signature
Balanced/Bass-y

>Past headphones
Currently using a pair of Sennheiser IE60s.

>Use cases
Listening to music/a bit of gaming, music will be my priority though

Music wise, I primarily listen to Drum and Bass.
Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqdermrqAnE
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>>57412053
€800 for public transport? How about Focal Elear but it's open back.
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>>57412108

Thanks for the recommendation, will take a look.

Will also be using them at home, but yeah. I want to isolate myself from the rest, and want to listen to my music in high sound quality.
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>>57412053
Man, only in the Netherlands can you wear 800 dollar headphones on public transport without significant fear of having them stolen.
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>Budget
40€/45$
>Location
Sweden
>Source
Mp3 player, android, pc.
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Comfortable while lying down.
>Past headphones
Koss Porta Pro, ATH AD700X, Sony MDR-V6

Looking for good isolation.
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I need a DAC and AMP for BD 990 600 Ohm, budget is $350 USD
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>>57412529
Not for long, King Will is really pro diversity
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>>57412939

Luckily his role is ceremonial only, he doesn't really have a say in anything.
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>>57412879
Are you that anon who wanted 250 ohm or 600 ohm? Why not choose HD6XX?
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Expensive audio equipment is the biggest waste of money, and I hate every single on of you who encourages and motivates people to test this shit out. I miss the days of 10 dollar headphones being enough, now these are enourmas multi-hundred dollar investments. Fuck all of this.
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How much better are hd650s than hd518s?
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I want to try an in-ear headphone (needs mic) for the first time so I went with a <$20, amazon purchase that I can also return if I don't like it.

Did I do okay?
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>>57413551
Nope. You could've gotten Xiaomi Hybrids. Or Xiaomi Piston IV.
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>>57413749
If you can find them for under $20 then let me know. I'm not 100% on in ears and don't want to drop 50$ and be disappointed / not able to return them
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>>57413807
Then wait for 11.11 Aliexpress sale. Seriously five bucks? I spend more on headphone pads and you're complaining about five bucks.
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>>57413749
>Xiaomi Piston IV
How do those compare to Piston 3?
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>>57413161
>I miss the days of 10 dollar headphones being enough

Fuck that, if they are enough for YOU then others are not your concern, and as prices drop you can take advantage.

I love it when other people buy expensive tech, Thinkpads, motorcycles, guns or anything else because that feeds the used market.
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>>57413838
I don't have Piston 3 anymore. I gave them away since Hybrids sound better to me. There's online measurements that can show you frequency response showing how balanced or flatter Piston 3s are but not how you hear them with your ears.
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>>57413838
worse
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>>57413849
That makes sense, but I regret even getting into better audio equipment from a financial standpoint. With every new piece of equipment there is the need of going even further; wanting better and better, and usually more expensive, equipment.
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>>57413833
Haha you must be fucking retarded. It clearly says FIFTY.
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>>57413909
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>>57413943
It clearly says he wants it under $20
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are prices gonna drop soon in england or just america?
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>>57412053

After looking around on the internet, I came across these: http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/shop/t-5-p-2-gen.html

They're a tad expensive, but are supposed to be goat for mobile devices. What do you guys think?
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>>57413807
>>57413833
>If you can find them for under $20 then let me know.
>under $20
If you want to risk getting fakes sure. Or wait for 11.11
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I know jack shit about audiophilia fyi.

>Budget
$100-$150
>Location
Sweden
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Open. To my understanding open is better were outside noise isnt a problem. However I often sit in discord, will my desk-mic pick up a lot of sound from open headphones?
>Comfort level
Very comfortable, 5+ hour sittings.
>Sound signature
>Past headphones
[spoiler]Razer Barracuda[/spoiler]

Thing is I'm used to surround sound thanks to my barracuda, I become disoriented in fps with just ordinary stereo. I know virtual surround is the way to go so what do you guys think about http://en-uk.sennheiser.com/audio-amplifier-gsx-1000 ?
>>
Does anybody here use their motherboard's optical audio out instead of USB? I have it on my mobo and it'd be cool to use it and free up a USB port
>>
What's the acceptable noise floor for audio? -30dBv -60dBv?
>>
>Budget
Sub $150

>location
United States

>Source
Computer/phone

>type of headphone
Over ear

>open or closed
Closed

>comfort level
As comfy as possible

>sound signature
Balanced or bassy

Probably only going to be used for music and maybe gaming. I'm trying to research a good one myself but the selection is pretty crazy.
>>
>>57414489
M40x with HM5 pads
Or DT770
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>>57414489
Same anon again. The Beyer dynamic 770s look like they are pretty good. Anybody have experiance with these?
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>>57414398
it was better when jitter was a thing now it's worse with mdoern usb chips on dacs

don't you have to run onboard audio drivers for optical to work? it may mess up some things
just disable onboard in bios
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>>57414634
Would the dt770 80ohm be fine with a smartphone or would I need to buy an amp?
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>>57414648
Wouldn't the OS in question affect this? I'm running OS X, not Windows, so there's no system mixer fuckery going on. With Core Audio all applications send audio straight to the system's selected output – there is no inbetween – so as long as you're not using an EQ in your music player it's bit perfect
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>>57414398
I tried it once. It's up to you man. Why I'm not using optical anymore? I can't tell you why just use your ears decide yourself.

>>57414804
>Wouldn't the OS in question affect this?
I'm not the other anon but you're talking about OS vs OS (operating system). Shouldn't you be talking about Optical vs USB? I use a USB decrapifier and that's why I don't use Optical. Again just use your ears and decide yourself.
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>>57414927
>I'm not the other anon but you're talking about OS vs OS (operating system). Shouldn't you be talking about Optical vs USB?
He brought up audio drivers, which is an OS specific thing and gets into how the OS handles audio

>Again just use your ears and decide yourself.
Will do.
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>>57414398
One less ground to consider, and can avoid potential priority conflicts with other USB devices.

>>57413909
Stop buying superfluous and non-functional equipment.

>>57414031
>What do you guys think?
T5p (v1 or v2) is an example of what doesn't make a good headphone. Common closed back coloration with bumpiness in the bass and lower mid. Strong treble cancellation nulls frustrate usage of EQ to fix response.
I would sooner suggest the Shure SRH1540. Bass tilted, isolating, with earcups that aren't pitifully small.

Also, tesla pic for fun.

>>57414409
>What's the acceptable noise floor for audio? -30dBv -60dBv?
That is almost meaningful. You need to know what your signal level is and device sensitivity.
If you assume even 7 Vrms signal, it's still not good SNR.
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>>57414981
Just took a look at the SRH154P. It looks good, but how does it fare on a phone, without an amp/dac? That's the main thing what drew me to the t5p.
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>>57415211
Meant SHR1540, still getting used to my phone's keyboard.
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Buying this ATH-M40x
How fucked is my purchase?
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Just fucked up my Sony XB90EXs. One side wasn't working so I took a flat head screwdriver and ripped it apart. Lesson learnt rip $80. Use a heat gun to open it up not pry it open because its glued. It's in the trash now nothing I can do when it looks all gory now.
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I didn't want to make a new thread but I figured you guys might be able to help. I want to get a new portable music player, anyone know of anything that fits the following?

>under $100
>supports flac and mp3
>will organize my music by artist and album using the tags I put on my music
>has an sd slot

send help
>>
Recommend me some comfortable IEMs with a good soundstage and decent isolation.
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>>57415211
>1540
It was a bit less sensitive overall than the T5p. Still plenty usable from my phone.
Your phone's headphone out might be more pathetic, depending on regional model and such.
>>
>>57415592

From what I've read, my phone's (LG G4) sound balancing is notoriously bad, if that's what you mean. Haven't really noticed anything sounding off myself though.
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>>57396453
>Budget
preferably under $100
>Location
Amerifat
>Source
phone
>Type of headphone
bluetooth, in ear
>Open or closed
NA
>Comfort level
Not too important, most earbuds don't give me trouble
>Sound signature
neutral, I can handle slight bass boost though
>Past headphones
not bluetooth but ATH-CKM500iS

Pleb here wanting an iphone 7, sorry. I checked Audio Technica's bluetooth selection but it was very poor. Not sure where else to look, and recommendations would be lovely.
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>>57415577
shure se535
>>
>Budget
$90-$130 max
>Location
US
>Source
Phone and PC
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Sound quality matters than comfort
>Sound signature
Bass
>Past headphones
>>57415500
>>
Is there a chart for really low-budget full-sized headphones?
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>>57415685
Deleted some important words.
I mean limited voltage output from the headphone jack. European devices tend to be deliberately limited as a way to limit playback level.
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>>57415931
Me again is RHA T10 worth it? How does it compare to Sony XB90EX? How about RHA MA750 does that have bass?
>>
Is this OK?
http://eu.akg.com/akg-product-detail_eu/k-511.html

I'm poor.
>>
Requesting some 400i eq's.
>>
Just copped a pair of 990 250ohms, what's a good amp/dac to get with these? Don't want to spend more than ~100 though but I'm flexible
>>
>>57415249
Why not just get M50Xs?
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>>57416652
pro or premium dt990?
>>
>>57416672
pro
>>
>>57416652
FiiO E10K or Micca Origen+
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>>57416857
I was looking at the e10k already but wasn't too sure. Sounds good though and relatively cheap. Thanks
>>
>>57415249
its not fucked, I have the m40x and they sound excellent. If you are coming from bass heavy headphones you may find them lackling in bass but you will get used to the sound.
>>
my mdr v6's ear pads are crumbling, what's a good replacement for them?
>>
>Budget
$150
>Location
USA
>Source
Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Noise-cancelling.
>Open or closed
N/A
>Comfort level
Comfortable for travel would be a bonus.
>Preferred tonal balance
Mid is fine, I don't like too much bass.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser and Audio-Technica.

Weird question but is there a booru or wiki that has pictures of anime girls wearing headphones along with the brand and model names?
>>
>Budget
<$300
>Location
USA
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
slight preference for open
>Comfort level
semi-comfy
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
DT235, GR07, Xiaomi Piston 3
I like my DT235's. The Piston 3's sound muddy to me.

Most music I listen to is very busy, and I'll also be using them for first-person games, so my greatest concerns are clarity and positional accuracy with a 3d-sounding soundstage.
I've looked at AKG K701/K702, but I've read that the soundstage, while wide, is lacking in height and depth.
I've been considering the DT880, but I'm concerned over the differences in models because of this comparison guide:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/513393/guide-sonic-differences-between-dt770-dt990-models-more
Is the 600 ohm version really that much better than the 250, and the 250 over the 32? I don't own an AMP or DAC yet, so that'd add $100 or $200+ to the cost of each.
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>>57415769
Way to expensive.
>>
>>57417855
Maybe you should give us a price range?
>>
Is it weird to keep around multiple amps for different headphones? E.g. a solid state and a tube?
>>
>>57418054
Not weird in audiophile circles. Utterly pointless to me.
>>
Is there something more neutral than AKG below £120?
>>
HD650 + Magni2uber + Modi2uber?

Good combo?

How would a tube/hybrid amp compare to the Magni2?
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>>57419488
I don't own any of those so I can't verify, but I've been researching a similar combo and people seem to be saying that this particular lineup works well but sounds bright and that HD650s pair well with tube amps because the warmth of the tubes compliments the HD650's signature well.
>>
>>57419574
Which tube amp would go with it?

I was looking at the Little Dot MKIII.
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>>57419675
Everyone on forums and youtube and stuff keep saying the bottlehead crack is an ideal tube amp for hd650/600 headphones, but I'm not sure since I've never actually listened to it.

I think the output impedance of the crack is 120 ohms or something, while most other amps try to be really low, but the 650/600's have high impedance so apparently it works out good. Could just be bullshit though.
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>>57419826
You have to build it.

http://bottlehead.com/product/crack-otl-headphone-amplifier-kit/

I think I'll just go with the Schiit Audio Magni2/Modi2 Uber combo cause it seems they're a match made in heaven.

This is my first real audiophile gear, I'm excited.
>>
>Budget
$30-50
>Location
US (Amazon)
>Type
IEM
>Source
Nexus 6P (Smartphone)
>Comfort
Comfy
>Use
Wireless (needs to be).
>>
>>57419873
I've heard good things about that combo, I'm sure it'll be great.
>>
>>57419899
Not wireless but these are decent.

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-CX-3-00-Black-Headphone/dp/B00NQ1808Y
>>
>>57419574
>>57419675
>>57419826
>low impedance solid state amp
>coloring headphones
>proceeds to shill tube amps
>>
>>57419921
:)

>>57419935
What does that even mean? I just mentioned that in addition to the Schiit Audio amp/dac I was looking at the Little Dot tube amplifiers.
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>>57419929
They're pretty good from what I hear, but I'm seeking exclusively wireless earbuds.
>>
>>57419935
what are you implying, I'm very new to all this headphone stuff
>>
>>57419962
>>57419981
High quality solid state amps like that do not change the headphone.

Getting into cable retard territory with that.
>>
>Budget
~$200
>Location
US
>Source
Computer, maybe phone rarely
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfortable enough to wear for hours at a time
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
MDR-V6, SHP9500

The HD6XX looks like it'll be good, but from what I've read, it looks like I'd prefer the HD600's sound signature to the HD650's. Has anyone here tried both? How much of a actual difference is there?

I'd also been looking at the K7XX and the K612, those would definitely need an amp though, right?
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>>57417810
HD6XX
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My M50X's just broke. looking for the exact same experience but more comfortable. I got to the point where i couldnt wear them for longer than 15mins, even after replacing the pads.

I've looked into 598 Cs, and it looks decent. Thoughts? Anything better for ~$200?
>>
Bought into the hype of Sennheiser Hd 598s.
They sound good but are far from comfy, end up having to take them off for a few minutes every 45 minutes or so, they put a bit of pressure on my head by my temple.

I hate that I live in a town where I can't physically go to a store to try on headphones and find a pair I like other than Bose and skullcandy garbage from best buy.
>>
>>57419899
Anyone :'( ?
>>
>Budget
Sub $50

>Location
US

>Source
Phone

>Type
Iem over ear cord

>Comfort
Comfy and sweat resistance, hoping to use these for exercising and public use.

Ya I basically just need something good for running and being out and about. I think the cord over the ear will help with running for sure. I need something that can withstand rain fairly well too, bonus points if it comes in clear color.
>>
>Budget
Max of $200, but I'd like to keep it under $150.
>Location
US
>Source
Computer entirely specifically a SMSL M3 via Optical.
>Type of headphone
Over ear or On-Ear
>Open or closed
Preferably closed since they'll used in a rather noisy house.
>Comfort level
Comfortable enough to wear for hours at a time
>Sound signature
I aim for Neutral in the IEM's I wear because I use them almost exclusively for music and audio-books, but my only want here is they are clear and clean. Neutral, bass heavy, v shaped, don' much care.
>Past headphones
Fischer Audio DBA-02
Klipsch Custom 3's
Vsonic G07
Fiio EX1's (Dunu Titan 1's)
Shure SRH-440's
Grado Sr80i's


I've looked at the Audio-Technia ATHM50x and wanted them for a while mostly because of the glowing review's Head-Fi gave 'em. But i'm not so sure anymore.
>>
>>57398561
AKG really fucking nailed it with these headphones.
>>
>>57400839
Depends on the headphones and how you treat them.

I had two pairs of Sennheiser headphones that I used for over 5 years each without ruining the cord.

My current AKG headphones are about 4 years old and don't have any issues despite daily use.

On the other hand, I have owned headphones from cheap companies in the past that broke fairly quickly.
>>
>budget 250
>type ear buds

I want ones that cancel out the noise of everything around me.
>>
>>57420364
>Has anyone here tried both?
HD650 is slightly warmer, I have both, prefer the HD600 but if I listen to the HD650 for a while, I can forget which one I'm listening to as they are so fucking similar.

Do not buy AKGs, they are shit.
>>
>>57422301
What amp/dac do you use them with?
>>
I'll try to ask again, I guess. Trying to be more specific.
I'm poor and I basically have no knowledge on headphones. I'm coming from a pair of no-brand chink shit and I'm hoping to get something that sounds a bit nicer, which I think it's not too much to ask for.

I value comfort over anything else, because I'll be using it a lot (that also means no IEMs for me). And so I found this headphone at a really affordable price in my country, where shit is usually way too expansive.

http://eu.akg.com/akg-product-detail_eu/k-511.html

What I want to know is basically, does anyone have any opinions about it? Is it alright for what I want, all things considered?
>>
What's the deal with the cheap used sennheisers on eBay?? Is $25 a normal price for used momentums? I don't use eBay so I'm not sure if it matters, but the seller has a good rating.
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has anyone here tried the FiiO X1 2nd Gen? How was it?
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>>57422389
>a bit nicer
I bet you'll find them better than that, coming from no-brand chink headphones.

You'll find a good difference in sound quality, most probably in clarity, and yeah they're pretty comfortable, they don't have a hard clamp on your head
>>
>>57422524
Momentums did have a huge price drop lately, but even for $25 used, it seems a bit shady lol
>>
>>57422896
Awesome, thanks
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>>57396453
How does /hpg/ feel about Audeze? I just got pic related and I am enjoying them.
>>
>>57422995
built like shit, hifiman tier garbage QC, heavy and uncomfortable,
>>
>>57422995
I was going to get a pair of LCD-2 mainly because they're American made. They don't hold up to everyday use though.
>>
>>57423014
How so?
>>
>>57423042
While they still work, the wood cracks along where the headband connects to it from taking them off and on a lot. Basically you need to baby the shit out of them.
>>
>Budget
Max $150, prefer around $100
>Location
US or else the option is the fucking D.R. Congo
>Source
computer, surface, or fucking the nokia brick if I am desperate enough for daily ear fap
>Type of headphone
full size or go home live another day
>Open or closed
closed so I can hear something other than Hutu paras
>Comfort level
comfortable especially since I have glasses, but I'm probably going to be uncomfortable anyways
>Sound signature
warm/neutral
>Past headphones
porta pro entry level stuff

Give me something that will take my mind off the sound of FARDCucks and chinese workers arguing about license durations.
Obviously must be durable.
>>
>headfi guide hasn't been updated in over a year
Last time I checked the Piston 3 was the king of IEMs under 30, is that still the case?
>>
>>57422995
You should've got Focal Elear.
>>
>>57423216
>unironically recommending that garbage
>>
>>57423336
>saying it's garbage
>>
>>57423341
it is garbage. outperformed by a now $200 headphone
>>
>>57423349
>claims focal elear is outperformed by hd6xx
>>
>>57423353
it is, handidly. elear is just a failed tryhard clone which is too dark and boomy.
>>
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>>57423358
>>57423349
>>57423336
>still butthurt the HD800 got knocked off the wall of fame by the Elear
>>
>>57423364
hd800 is worse than the 650
>>
>>57423369
You seem to value veiled garage.
>>
>>57423384
>veiled garbage
>says the idiot shilling the elear mudslime veil simulations
>>
>>57423389
Different anon...... This anon >>57423364 saved me. I'm speechless talking to you. You're a fucking retard to think a hd6xx outperforms a elear.
>>
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>>57396453
how you niggas feeling about the x3's
>>
>>57423403
the only thing elears do well is build quality
>>
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>>57423389
>mudslime
>praising headphones from Germany
>>
>>57423434
>touhou
glad to know we can disregard any and every opinion you have
>>
>>57423439
>normie
>>
>>57423447
>newfag
>>
>>57423450
k
>>
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Is this DAC good enough for the 650s?

plz help
>>
>>57419826
>Everyone on forums and youtube and stuff keep saying the bottlehead crack is an ideal tube amp for hd650/600 headphones
Basically
>Everyone is saying that mud, with mud for mud headphones is a good combo

The HD6x0 (especially 650) with its midbass impedance bump with a _120 ohm output impedance_ from the Crack to increase the already present midbass hump will just sound like disgusting mud.
Amp and headphone """pairings""" are as much a meme as audiophile cables.
>>
>>57423482
no, get tested and proven solutions in price range like smsl m3 or fiio e10k
for 150 - smsl m6
for 198 - shiit stack
>>
>>57423482
Fuck it. I'll just plug those motherfuckers to my Xonar Essence STX and be done with it.
>>
>>57423730
they will work fine with it
if you will notice clipping then you'd need an amp
>>
>>57423727
>smsl
>proven solution
show me some measured performance of any smsl product
>>
>>57423482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BSJ-_4LKvE
>>
Looking for an upgrade from a pair of old Brainwavz S1 earbuds (without the remote) around $150 or less. I'm not really happy with the sound quality, and they constantly need readjusting otherwise they don't stay in all the way and sound even worse.
>>
>>57423787
Mind elaborating more on what you didn't like about the sound?
Regardless, consider Ety HF5.
>>
>>57423794
To me, they seem to lack a lot of detail, especially in the low end, stuff that is lower in the mix is barely audible, and everything else is just sort of muddy
>>
>>57423794
>>57423824
I also have a pair of shitty HTC earbuds I got for free and I prefer those because at least I don't have to constantly readjust them.
>>
>>57423824
>>57423844
The S1 seem to be bass and only bass. HF5 have linear bass and much more neutral so you _should_ get more "detail", just not as much bass amount.
One major complaint about them is comfort from the deep insertion triple flange; eardildos, so to speak. Experimenting with different tips or just simply getting used to them is the way to go about that.
>>
Thoughts on the marshall majors?
>>
>>57424226
Marshal is a meme brand now
similar to skullcandy and marley
>>
>>57424236
But are they worth it for 15€?
>>
>>57424245
I'd say so. They sell for 100 USD on amazon. They seem to be reviewed alright on headfi
>>
>>57419574
>this particular lineup works well but sounds bright
Why would it sound bright? Actually, how would any of those parts color the sound?
>because the warmth of the tubes
Tubes are only warm to touch. Hot even. They don't make the sound warm on their own.
>compliments the HD650's signature well.
That's nonsensical, something you'd hear from Head-Fi. Forget that it's a tube amplifier. The fact that it has a 120 Ohm output impedance will make HD 650 sound increasingly more warm as it high Zout on a frequency dependent load impedance directly alters the frequency response and HD 650's have an impedance swing around 100 Hz.

>>57419826
You got to stop taking things at face value without understanding some basics about amplification and from people who probably don't know any more than you do, just repeat what others say. There's no such thing as amplifier and headphone "pairing".

>>57423482
You don't need a DA-converter for headphones but you might need an amplifier as HD 650s are a little insensitive. Hard to say, I can't even find any specs for that Procaster thing. My motherboard runs them fine. Better prices for Sennheisers here:

https://www.stpaulssound.fi/tuote/sennheiser-hd650-avoimet-kuulokkeet/009969/
https://www.stpaulssound.fi/tuote/sennheiser-hd600-avoimet-kuulokkeet/004465/

Maybe try headphones without a discrete amplifier first and order one later on if you want?

>>57423403
>You're a fucking retard to think a hd6xx outperforms a elear.
How is that in any way retaarded? I'd agree on HD 6xx -series sounding and in this way performing better than Elear.

>>57424245
15€? That's a great price.
>>
Someone gifted me a Logitech G230 headphone, is it a good headset approved by /g/ for normal use or I should return it to the shop and get a better headphone?
>>
>>57417934
50 euro / 60 usd
>>
Is the jds labs o2/odac a good, safe choice to pair with hd 650's? Seems good but I'm also wondering if I could use the DAC and amp on their own if i got a different amp or dac in the future.

The front right 3.5mm jack seems to be where you connect a different DAC or amp, but there is also an option to put a 3.5mm or RCA DAC output on the rear, instead of using the one hole for two purposes.

So if I'm understanding this correctly, to use this DAC without this amp, would i just hook up the usb cord, but not the amp power cord, and then hook the DAC output, either the stock one or custom one, to another amp?

heres a link:
https://www.jdslabs.com/products/48/objective2-odac-combo-revb/

I'm new to this and I feel like I'm in over my head, and you guys seem to bring me back down to earth.
>>
Tips for IEM to use while sleeping?
Most hurt when sleeping on my side.
>>
>>57424895
use morphine
>>
>>57424527
yes
>>
>>57424864
Any neutral source will be a "good pair", whatever this means, for any headphone. If you don't plan to EQ, even an E10K is enough.
>>
>>57424864
smsl m6 150 better price and same sound as schiit stack
schiit stack 200 better components

instead of 279 for o2/odac
>>
>>57424864
>would i just hook up the usb cord, but not the amp power cord, and then hook the DAC output, either the stock one or custom one, to another amp?
would i just hook up the usb cord, but POWER BUTTON SWITCHED OFF, and then hook the DAC output, either the stock one or custom one, to another amp?

Fixed. Correct.
Go for it.
>>
>>57424952
>smsl
Answer him first >>57423752
>>57423769
>reddit
>>
>>57424941
>>57424952
>>57424956
Thanks guys
>>
>>57424527
Return it. Logitech headsets are plastic-y as hell and will break easily. Headsets in general are almost always shit
>>
>>57424527
If you need/want a headset and find that one comfy with decent enough sound, why not keep it? If you actually can return them and get a good model in return, that might be a good idea too.
>>
>>57422917
I'll give it a go and see what's up, I can afford to lose $25.
>>
Quality-wise is there any significant difference between a headset with a USB interface and one with 3.5mm jacks? I'm not using any fancy soundcard, just the motherboard's built-in sound.
>>
Hello,
I'm looking to buy some cheap iem (30-40pound max) and these are the options:
Soundmagic e10s (same price as e10 on amazon) (30pounds)
Rha MA350 (20 pounds)

used to own rha ma600 but 3 year warranty e now voided and they stopped working

pls help thnx
>>
>>57426477
Unlikely no.
Unless you can hear hiss or distortion from your onboard, i hardly doubt the conversion is any better via USB

either way, neither are going to be great sounding
>>
>>57426477
headset with usb is probably gonna sound like shit
>>
DAPs are not a meme
>>
>Budget
£150

>Location
UK

>Source
PC

>Type
Full-sized

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort
Comfy

>Sound signature
Anything OK, but lean towards less bass/more treble

>Past headphone
Sony MDR-ZX300... They broke

Thanks!
>>
>>57426895
Sennheiser HD 598
Great treble sparkle and rolled off low end.
558's are an alternative, but dont quite have the same highs and are slightly warmer/more bassy.
Both are very comfortable and have good soundstage.

AKG K612's are another good option. Issue with them is that they can have seal issues on certain people's heads. Also have quite present highs.
>>
>Budget
under $50 if possible.
>Location
europe
>Source
phone
>Type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
comfy

i work in a datacenter and spend several hours/day next to rather loud equipment. i need something wireless as cables get in the way (so bluetooth) and closed (because noise). ability to control music (play/pause, next/previous) and take calls with them is kinda must have.
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