/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THIS A GOOD IDEA?
please recommend editors for programming in c++. and don't mention with bloated proprietary botnets, I don't want any of that.

Why no one uses tumbleweed ?
It's a rolling release and its looks like very good.
Nice management of the packages and more stable than arch.

Why am I not getting previews in the KDE file picker? It works in Dolphin. I've cleared the cache and set 'Previews=true' in kdeglobals

>>57367280
-with
changed the verb and forgot to remove the prepositon.
also, fourth for Arch Linux

any of you can help me?
I'm trying to create kernel modules in VM and I keep getting
MODPOST 0 modules

what I'm doing wrong?

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I just converted to lxde, what can you tell me about lxde anons, your experience?

Can someone give me a sane reason why I should install Arch except the "simple" and "lightweight" memes, which are proven wrong?

Just unsure because I keep discovering sp many Arch users on /g/. It can't be true that all these people are falling for memes, right?

I'm not trolling, please don't shitreply.

>>57367284
zypper is slow as ass compared to pacman

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>>57367340
>It can't be true that all these people are falling for memes,
it is

>It can't be true that all these people are falling for memes,
There are also lots of people falling for windows 10.

>>57367327
fix your non-anime wallpaper first

>>57367340
Non-meme reply here. There's only one reason to use arch and that reason is a good reason: The AUR.

>>57367327
xfce is more polished and feature full desu.

>>57367236
i recently installed antergos but i don't understand.
There are some lags like freeze or when i unlock sometimes i must wait 4 - 5 mins .
Am i the only one who has these kind of bugs ?

>>57367340
well, pacman is lighting fast, AUR is a blessing, changing DEs has been a lot less painful than with debian-based systems from my expirence.
how come you think arch's lightweightness is a meme? my old ubuntu system came with over 1300 packages on installation, most of which I've never used and it used ~800mb RAM after booting. my arch system had ~300 packages (with everything essential such as xorg and a DE installed) and used 370mb after booting. now I'm up to 700 packages and still only 400mb RAM usage after booting.

>>57367363
>The AUR
>implying a git wrapper is a reason to installl distro which has said git wrapper

>not git cloning shit yourself

inb4 retards claiming "its so much more simple"

You should ALWAY check the source code of ANY shit the AUR provides. It's equally to install software made by literally who.

Give me a good reason to switch from Xubuntu to Debian with XFCE

>>57367423
you know that yaourt and the like generate a package and integrate it into your package manager? there's a big difference between "muh just git clone bro" and arch's solution

>>57367340

Reasons to consider when choosing a distribution:

>package manager
>release schedule
>package philosophy (patching, defaults)

Everything else, including these >>57367380 >>57367407 are irrelevant gimmicks.

Your question is being asked countless times per day. If you were serious about anything, you'd "research" it yourself instead of asking hit-and-run questions.

>>57367407
arch users think a package count of 300 compared to ubuntu with 2000 is better but they are wrong.

arch is a meme, let me tell you why

the slogan "a simple, lightweight linux distro"

a) it's not simple, it's simple for the developers, not for the users. users need to fix a lot of shit, install a lot of shit, configure a lot of shit to make arch usable

b) it's not lightweight, the vanilla arch kernel comes (because simplicity) with ALL modules enabled by default, you can change it, yes, but noobs just wount. then people think a blank base install is more lightweight than a fully blown ubuntu install, but at the end it looks like this:

>ubuntu
2000k packages, mostly only binaries, some -dev packages

>arch
300 packages, but since arch doesn't package splitting (it includes source, headers, docs, all languages, etc), you end up with 1 package which is twice as huge as 2 ubuntu packages

so, consider installing a fully blown de on arch and one on ubuntu, and then do some math

and that's the whole meme about arch
>simple and lightweight
but actually complicated and bloated

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Why does it feel less taboo to use an osx looking theme over a windows looking theme?

>>57367423
>not git cloning shit yourself
I did that on debian
After a month I had 100-200 packages cloned and was regularly rebuilding them by hand

At that point I decided to say “fuck it” and switched to gentoo. Life is so much simpler now that I can simply let my package manager worry about managing packages.

>>57367477
People don't install Arch because the Simple or Lightweight thing, they install it because they think only on Arch you can RICE. That's the whole SEX SELLS the kids are falling for.

>>57367400
install gentoo, all jokes aside, try installing antergos base, then install all required shit for your de of choice, if thats on your level that is.

>>57367500
Please don't post such trash EVER again. Thanks.

>>57367500
shit theme btw
and people are retarded who cares

I'm a little confused.
Should I use "find" for searching or files or filter the results of "du"?

>>57367511
antergos is cancers, you know what antergos is?

it's an installer for arch, which overwrites any hint of "arch" in the base with "antergos"

that's what antergos does; being cancer, in exchange for handholding 3 command line commands for installing a DE

>>57367511
what's the point of all these arch installers, why not installing arch manually if you guys care about a lightweight base install? isn't that the whole point?

>>57367561
see >>57367363

>>57367477
so what alternatives do you propose? I want bleeding edge software and I use software that usually isn't part of the official repos but git cloning everything manually (also when updating) is too much work in the long run.

>debian/ubuntu
I HATE apt for the love of god
switching DEs is painful
lags behind with software releases
sucking the systemD

>gentoo
compiling everything takes ages if you don't have a top notch CPU

>fedora
red hat spyware
systemd

>>57367477
arch is not a meme if you consider how stable it is for a rolling distro. Arch is a meme when you realize that the developers understand KISS as "we don't have to do so much work because the end user will" instead of "lets make simple and lightweight automated tools to keep the system installation, administration and usage simple and lightweight"

>>57367561
>>57367575
>install ubuntu
>screenfetch -D Arch
:^)

>>57367595
I think you never developed a distro. What Arch debs do is simply insane like defaulting python3 to python and other crap no sane developer would do ever.
>no breakage
I agree that "Arch broke X" is a meme since it happend only once, but there are lots of other rolling distros which are more save than arch, since arch doesn't provide any bug listing or checking option next to the webside for possible bugs before uprgrading.
>KISS
I alread feel sorry for posting this link.
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

inb4 some fag starts some systemd trash memeing; read the whole mail :^)

>>57367632
Why are characrers missing? I'm feeling opressed.

>>57367600
0 packages senpai

>>57367561
no the point of arch not having an installer is devs being angry about people spamming forums not knowing how to do basic stuff.
They could literally make a good, automated and simple to use distro that has all the latest software and is really the best choice for a desktop user,
but they instead chose autism and put retarded slogans behind it because they like their secrit club :^)

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>>57367652
fat fingers syndrome

>>57367658
>They could literally make a good, automated and simple to use distro
this, what's the point of all these arch installers? a simple, 50 lines shell script could do the job the KISS way, but arch refuses
>implying running 5 commands manually to install arch "teaches you linux"
meh

>>57367658
>muh graphical installation
oh look, it's a ubuntu toddler ranting angrily about arch. how neat!

Anyone has debian sid ? and can say if it's a good choice ? i had so much issues with arch i don't want it anymore.

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>>57367691
Sid is comfy. Get apt-listbugs, run it before upgrading to feel save; feel save.
It breaks as much as Arch does; once a year, and if, you get informed before it does.

>>57367696
so you mean when someone asks how to genkernel or list modules?

>>57367772
Exaclty.

Dual booting xubuntu and windows here.

I no longer feel like wasting space with windows. I can do anything I would want on a virtual machine and I have already tried this. Shit's on UEFI though. How would I go around just removing windows without leaving shit behind?

Also given that my secondary hard drive uses an NTFS partition, should I convert that since I no longer need to access it through Windows?

>>57367785
Depends. You could see Windows like a gaming console and handle it like tha<t: Have a drive, boot to it to play some AAA windows only games, but do your actual computing on GNU/Linux

If you want to drop your Win drove completly, just dd some nice stuff to it like a backup of your GNU/Linux hdd.

Can somebody explain to a newfag what the systemd issue is?

Here is what I understand, systemd and SELinux have had some of its code contributed by the NSA, and it also is increasingly responsible for more of the functions of the OS, right?

Is this not both a good and bad thing then? On the one hand they have the capacity to put some sneaky code in there, but on the other, wouldn't they make the software that they are going to use for themselves more secure?

someone pls explain what systemd and selinux even is to this nigger

>>57367683
well all those installers were created by community and are unofficial.
>>57367688
>i think that mounting devices manually. running pacstrap and then manually creating fstab is somewhat hard and makes me a special haxxor
this is how archkids look like.
I'm not young enough to use arch anymore, last time i installed it was 8 years ago.

>>57367825
As a newfag you shouldn't worry about systemd. Systemd is free software, which means it's secure and anyonce can and does audit it. Don't fall for the NSA memes.

The actual discussion is a technical/philosophical regarding the UNIX prilosophy, which asks programs to do ONE thing an do it RIGHT. Since systemd does many tasks as one huge entity, many people aren't comfy with it. That's what all the discussions are about.

>>57367440
-plain "vanilla" xfce is better than that riced out shit
-task-xfce-desktop includes a good amount of xfce programs that xubuntu-desktop doesn't
-if you install just xorg xfce4 xfce4-goodies you'll get a less bloated system
-it'd debian, so you can use sysvinit and openrc not pötteringd

can we stop hatig on arch now? there are enough good reasons to use it.

>>57367688
debian netinst cli installer is pretty comfy and needs less place (247 MB) than the arch iso (797).
It includes a gui installer and a text based one that doesnt need X running and is lightweight,
also it has an "expert install" that lets you do things manually just like the arch installer.
Why are you using such bloated install disk?
Why is it so featureless if its so heavy?
Fite me.

>>57367908
a) No, there aren't any; see this thread.
b) No, we need to spread the word so newcomers stop falling for the Arch meme, because we're friendly and want the users to use the best shit that fits to their needs.

>>57367931
I'll stop using arch once you can give me >>57367591 a satisfying answer

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>>57367931
shit that fits to my needs doesnt make me look cool on the internet

>>57367908
there is little reason to use it over any other major distro. Only one i can see is "i need new packages" and you can manually build what you need if your base system is old. Short cli commands to install/upgrade packages can be set uo easily with aliases. You can rice on any distro, even windows. No reasons to be honest.

>>57367920
> a net installer is smaller than a normal installer
> take that, arch user! fite me
kill yourself, serously

>>57367946
get comfy with apt and use debian sid or learn portage on gentoo's unstable

>>57367964
>>57367931
>>57367960
>>57367946
>hey, lets introduce newcomers to something that will leave them totally confused

no you idiots, people that have already found their way here aren't dumb, they just aren't ready for that level of required interaction

assuming people come from windows, which is literally babby-tier, they are not ready for that.

fedora, ubuntu, mint are better ways to start them off

honestly telling them to install arch is just a step above "install gentoo"

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>>57367591
>red hat spyware
>systemd

nice-meme.jpeg

>>57367920
>debian netinst cli installer is pretty comfy and needs less place (247 MB) than the arch iso (797).
arch had a bootstrap archive which is ~122M, and can be installed offline

and the arch iso includes both i686 and x86_64, so either way it's not comparable

>>57367477
I have all the programs I need on arch and I use only 17gb.While ubuntu came with a lot of thing that I didn't want and after I installed all the packages I need the space used was 40gb.

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>>57367995
Discovering someone using the tipper meme correctly nowadays is RARE, so I'm here to pay respect.

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>>57367995
>jpeg
killy yourself right now or at least make sure you don't can reproduce

>>57368054
mad.bmp

>>57368054
people who don't santisize their scrpts to handle jpe?g crap shouldn't touch computers

>>57367360
Is it a race?

>>57367946
>>57367591
Arch was pretty quick to join other girls in the massive bukkake party of redhat devs that is systemd.

If you need new software you can be easly satisfied with ubuntu PPAs, or debian sid. |
Fedora has quick releases that ship with new software too,
but i cant say much good about their stability or loads of officially supported software.

I dont know how is switching DEs on a debian system painful, just use apt-get install task-some-desktop.
On ubuntu you have x/l/k/ubuntu(-gnome/mate)-desktop metapackages that even tweak some things like plymouth/grub themes and stuff.
And you can install core desktop packages if you hate bloat.

Needing the latest newest software is a sign of baby duck syndrome related to you quitting windows for something that works different to be honest. Like:
>I cant literally do any work if my libreoffice is 5.1 instead of 5.2.
while most normal people use pretty old software, or stable versions for work because it wont mess around with their work flow or compatibility.
Also with stability in mind you can use package managers to keep the system secure with older packages so people wont have to do this manually.
Arch devs literally just throw mainstream at users because its not their job to patch things, unless it's kernel or something.

>>57368090
just ignore him, people who think the speed of package managers has any value don't understand anything about computers, networks, configurations or any othercomputer basics anyway

>>57367291
any kde pros here? I'm willing to blow you

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Are there any solutions to printer driver issue in linux?
Specifically HP printers?
I've spent 4 hours trying to figure out how to make the scanner in F300 work and speed up printing.
Only to find out that these features are not supported by hplib.

>>57368114
Wrong board I guess.

>>57368128
is kde not affiliated with this board in any way?

>>57368127
>printing shit
for what purpose? hand that guy your usb stick faggot, nobody want's do call a herioglyth specialist to discover your random craps
be compatible

>>57368127
Are you from the past? We don't use printers in this timeline anymore

>>57367236
Ive only used windows in my life, but ive been interested in switching over to linux on my work pc. Whats a good guide for complete noobs?

>>57368150
There are people (those who have jobs for you) who use Windows 98 and Exel and those people want prints, otherwise you're tech illiterate.

>>57367972
>there are people who install/use arch without an Internet connection
literally kill yourself.

>>57368157
install Ubuntu and follow your heart

>browse /g/ for a long time
>we have created the /flt/ and put together a lot of cool stuff that can be helpful to anyone browsing /g/ and using linux
>thread never dies by itself
>After some weeks we have to change the name to /fglt/ because of all those idiots shitposting about stallman & gnu
>thread is again nice and one of the few non shitty thread in /g/
>now this thread is a shitposting thread about archlinux

You should all go to hell and never come back. There are thread dedicated to shitpost, like /pol/, /b/ or /trash/
Can we go back to a good thread ?

>>57367453
boo-fucking hooo, debian can package and automate packaging too.

>>57368127
never met with such a problem, 4 out of 4 all-in-ones (3 hp 1 epson) worked out of the box with no configuration on any linux install i had. All you need is xsane/cups or hplip.

>>57368166
any specific variant? like KUBUNTU, MATE etc?

>>57368204
kubuntu or ubuntu gnome
maybe xubuntu
have fun!

>>57368157
Get Ubuntu. Don't fall for any other memes like Mint or other trash. Get Ubuntu. Shit company but stuff works and holds your hand on your first steps. You can literally use it without any GNU/Linux knowlege.

You can boost your knowlege by using the commandline as much as you can. (The OP has a nice Shell pasta at the copypasta collection link), also the book "the linux commandline" may help.

Another tip: Use Ubuntu, don't distrohop because you thin Distro X looks nice, instead make your distro look nice (and realize that all distros are basically the same thing, only the package managing and the philosophy differes)

My 2 cents. when you feel save enough, you should leave ubuntu since canonical is a faggot company and go debian or arch or whatever you like.

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>>57368147
>Handing someone a USB stick
USBKILLER, BADUSB

Besides, Sometimes you NEED stuff in physical format.
>>57368191
Maybe it's the model?
I've used hplip, and I can use it to print stuff, but doesn't have the option to use less ink or print fast.
As for the scanner, I've installed SANE while it does detect the scanner, it doesn't show up with xsane.
Even HP-scan doesn't help, it throw an error about missing Python imagining library which I have installed for both python 2 and 3.

>>57368249
>Besides, Sometimes you NEED stuff in physical format.

Found the faggot who has a real life.
>>>/out/, NOT MY BROTHER

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>>57368270
You forgot to attach a RARE pepe to your post, but luckily there's me. Thank me later.

>>57368292
This post could be an epic meme, millions of people would use it, if you didn't attach an actual pepe.

What a sad day to be alive.

>>57368249
well if sane detects it then it should work , just needs some proper config. Tell me what distro so i can better speak your language.

>>57368292
>rare pepe
neonazi please go away

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>>57368315
Manjaro.
But according to this http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-DeskJet_F300

>Mostly
>These printers work almost perfectly - funny enhanced resolution modes may be missing, or the color is a bit off, but nothing that would make the printouts not useful.

>inb4 manjaro

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>>57367236

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>>57368364
Daily reminder. This is how competence looks like.

>>57368292
Nice. Watch the pepe supply increase rapidly in the next few weeks

>>57368379
>>>>/fag/ - friendly applel general/

>>57368392
where is said pepe suplly? if it's some hidden irc please tell mee

>>57368364
try simple-scan , maybe it will pull some dependencies you may have missed. Also it has sane as an dependency so it might work if sane worked. I had bad experiences with xsane on some puppy linux install.

>>57368423
At this day and at this current year I don't even know if just retarded or actually retarded, Holy shit.

>>57368434
Tried that.
Also xsane does work, but it thinks webcam is a scanner.
>Depends On : sane dconf gtk3 colord libgusb packagekit
All installed.

>>57368442
I'd insult you, for being a newfag, but actually even newfag can figure out that /g/ is basically /facekek/ asking for pcpartpicker, so ... I wouldn't be surprised if >>57368442 is real at all, sadly

>>57368481
>m-muh sekrit club is ded, tears.jpg

>>57368481
>>>/8ch/
>>57368494
>>>/reddit/

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why is it always debian and arch fanboys that can turn a thread to shit.

>>57368473
>thinks webcam is a scanner
how fucking cool is that mate.

Well i cant say i can help you much. You can try configuring sane manually or something but i never done it. Also you can try booting an ubuntu live usb to see if the scanner works there. Usually just having hplip + simple-scan did the trick for me in ubuntu/fedora/debian, but my f4180 works even if i put the usb cable in my anus i guess.

>>57368423
economic calculation is impossible here due to levels of inflation previously thought impossible so I can't give you the exact numbers but they are usually posted right here on the website 4chan

>>57368423
yes #pepe at freenode

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>>57368597

I'm pretty new to this, so sorry for being so dumb. I'm sure this is all obvious, but I need a little help so I can leave Windows for good.
What I want to know:
- The only way to watch Netflix is through Google Chrome?
- I don't understand the format in which I download popcorn time, since after it's extracted I can't run the program or anything. If PT is shit can anyone recommend me a better alternative for TV Shows?

I'm using KDE Neon, btw. Thank you in advance

>>57367291
anyone? I'm willing to do anything at this point

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>>57368632

>>57368646
>- The only way to watch Netflix is through Google Chrome?
you can do that with firefox, you need to toggle "play DRM" in firefox settings. And until netflix fixes they site you still need to change ff user agents.

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>>57368659

>>57367291
please? anyone?

Have you guys ever done linux from scratch or written your own kernel? Is the time spent learning worth it?

>>57368685
>Syu
>not Syyu

>>57368095
>how long again did it take arch to get Package signing again?

>>57368873
>written your own kernel
not sure if troll, typo or confused

>>57368934
Well, I know C and I think I could find some people to help me.

>>57367284
But anon I do use it

Bit of a newfag question, but here goes:

I'm using Ubuntu Gnome 16.10, and I want to reassign some of my keys into media keys since I don't have any. I'm assuming that one of the F1-12 keys would be best for this, but which ones. Which F keys aren't used for any particular purpose in Ubuntu or common applications like Firefox?

>>57369040
i would use shift/meta/alt/ctrl + F_keys combos for that if you do not want to mess up common F_key actions. Not sure if you can though.

What's the difference between GObject and GObject2?

>>57369114
One is good and one is bad

How do i set keyboard layout switch key on lxde?
I use

setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll us,rs

But command stop working after few minutes.

>>57369219

Because LXDE is probably overwriting that config file with its own settings.

>>57368685
>>57368659
>>57368632
>>57368597
dumping stupid arch memes is the same cancer as spamming stupid sjwbian memes
>>>/9gag/

let's go back to the roots and be a thread that helps newcomers to step into linux and others to fix their shits, that's the spirit, not some x vs y team cancer

>>57369404
You post it like it's so easy. But just wait when someone asks for a lightweight distro and X anwsers Arch and Y tells X he fell for the meme.

I'm not some Arch fag, but that's how shitposts 0day works.

>>57369433
Arch is a nice distro, seriously. I'd say it's the step 2 afer Noobuntu. It's hand-holding thanks to the wiki, the AUR and just works, and because of the so called "kernel bloat" arch works on everyone's hardware without jumping though hoops. People just need to stop falling for the "simple and lightweight" meme and everything is fine.

>>57369461

>thinking there's a path of distributions
You're contributing to the problem yourself.
There is no path. Normal people inform themselves from the start about what the crucial features of a distribution are and choose based on that. Not on some myth "path". Only idiots think that way and you're one of them.

>>57369461
Then why does Arch use said slogan?

>>57369496
It's a community meme, not related to Arch Linux. The website (wiki, etc) can be edited by anyone who has the right privs and is part of the community.
Arch Linux is meant to be simple, not KISS, not minimal, not lightweight, not nigger. It's just simple and works, that's what Arch is.

>>57369485
maybe not a "parth" per say but there is definitely a trend.

jump head first into a more complex distro then realize you dunno wtf you're doing and go to an easier one.

&

start with an easier to use one then switch to a more complex one when you get more comfortable.

not that X is more complex than Y but more CLI oriented distros can be overwhelming for new users.

>>57369485
You're mayeb right, but let's get real: Most people start with Ubuntu, come to 4chan and want to level up and Arch is what they end up with, because screenfetch and the nice looking desktop says so.

>>57369573
So the question is basically: Why are people ricing Arch instead of any other distro?

(Answer: they get it sold as simple and lightweight base install, perfect for ricing, also known as getting meme'd)

>>57369617
Pretty much this.

>spending any effort ricing anything when gnome is literally seconds away

>>57369651
>spending effort
>ricing
what did he mean by this?

>>57369617
HOLY SHIT, I'm searching so hard for the 10 monkeys meme, and I just don't fucking find it, anyone got it?

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>>57369695
It's just 5 monkeys and you want pic related. Suck my dick later, enjoy.

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>>57367280
>replacing \ with / in a file with vim:
>:%s/\\/\//g
>WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THIS A GOOD IDEA?
Writing \\ for \ and \/ for / isn't unintuitive, it's necessary. \ is the escape character and / is the delimiter.

Why is it like this (besides necessity)? Because when Vim's ancestor editor ex was developed, teleprinters were being used for input and output on computers. There was no monitor, so you had to print the lines that you wanted to view. Modems were slow and memory was low, which meant that things needed to be as terse and efficient as possible.

Besides that, all regex is insane looking, not just Vim's. But regardless, it's still incredibly useful. Regex is so useful that it's just stupid to not use it because you find it unintuitive or ugly.

Do you avoid all regex?

>>57369729
Thanks a billion.

Does anyone know what distro the NSA uses to train recruits? I'm opening my own version of the NSA and to compete with them I need to effectively train new members.

>>57369796
arch

>>57369461
>>57369543

Sorry, but Arch is not "nice" and definately not "simple".

>check for updates the whole time
>oops, fucked up everything
>check mailinglist
>yup, everything's fucked

I'm not saying it might be glorious for some people, for me it's not an option since I don't want my distro to be my full-time job. But hey, you will learn a lot along the way, defiately. Whatever floats your boat.

But to advertise Arch as "the next step after Ubuntu" is a big, mean lie.

>>57369737
nigger do you even regex

:'<,'>s,a,b,g

no need for crippled / delimiters

>>57369815
I'm pretty sure that's untrue.

>>57369796
Windows, since it is officially part of PRISM (a NSA program, searx it=-

>>57369826
It's true, why wouldn't it be?

>>57369796
They use [REDACTED] and sometimes [REDACTED].

>>57369835
But why would I want my direct competitors to have access to everything I do?
>>57369844
It's not a real distro and it has vulnerabilities which aren't very suitable for training recruits.

>>57369796
Just ask american's hero on Twitter.

>>57369856
The vulnerabilities are exactly the purpose. Like what kind of group would leave vulnerabilities that massive in? lol obviously it's for testing purposes for recruits.

I've said too much.

>>57367236
Anyone here use Exherbo? Looks like Gentoo without the handholding.

>>57369867
So you want to learn cracking? Just say it like it is, no need to shame.

>Linux Foundation appoints two more women to its board of directors
>Erica Brescia, Nithya Ruff, and Jeff Garzik bring a breadth of expertise, diversity, and insight to the top open-source organization.

We appointed TWO WOMEN, oh and also Jeff, fuck him.

>>57369867
I'm not talking about a distro they train their offense doctrine on, which is pretty much anything at this point. I need a defense-enabled distro to train the new people I sign up to work for me.

>>57369884
#JUSTICEforJEFF

>>57369890
oh in that case mac os

>>57369913
Somehow I doubt using an NSA distrobution is a good idea if I want to be a competitor.

>>57369823
>

:'<,'>s,a,b,g

Oh shit, I didn't know you could do that. You can actually set the delimiter to any non-alphanumeric character. I'm gonna use this way more often.
:%s;\\;/ is way easier to read. Or even :%s+\\+/

Take that, >>57367280

>>57369935
Same works with sed, ed, etc. Just choose a delimiter that doesn't fuck with any escaping and you're fine.

>>57369924
then it's going to take years and years for you to even catch up with them on the basics
meanwhile if you just used their distribution you get a leap start & then can dismantle from your competitor

>>57367280
Also the /g is inverted if you set the gdefault option. So global replace is default, and /g means no global replace.

I'm having trouble getting an HPZ3600 wireless mouse to work in Debian 8.

When I input lsusb the mouse is listed in the output.

When I use dmesg | grep -i usb, I get this as the output.

http://pastebin.com/0JqwWtVP

Any help?

>>57369957
But I could just use their distrobution and then customize the kernel myself to gain the upper hand. mac os is a trap distrobution created to lure people in and collect their data. Which I certainly don't want to happen if I want to reach my goal of removing them from the market by 2018

>>57369796

RHEL 5

RedHat is pretty """close""" to the NSA. Or so I heard.


>https://people.redhat.com/sgrubb/files/hardening-rhel5.pdf
>http://techrights.org/2014/01/17/rhel-security/


BTW where were the systemd guys working again?

>>57369988
then utilize their distribution there's literally no other way at this point
you're not going to reach your goal effectively if the board just continues to data mine distributions rather than attacking the IPv6 solar system

>>57370000
I'm usually all in for any memes, but dude, systemd is free software and there are LOTS of triggered people, who audit the code night and day to find some shit they can brack about on reddit, so I guess systemd is pretty save, even when maintained by some rh employee.

>>57370020
Better not to use something you're not sure because NSA than using something instead where you know it's made just by some hobbyist techies.

>>57370000
I don't want anything with NSA backdoors though. I just want a security focused distrobution to train the new people in my team.
>>57370008
Is it not publicly available? I guess I'll just have to do with something similar. What is their distro based on?

>>57370040
that's what the nsa is trying to make you think
it's not like the nsa are some 1335 hillbilly hackers

I installed Arch on my big rig, but I keep getting this kind of weird flickering when there's hardware acceleration. I have an R9 390X.

I have installed all the amdgpu packages and made a 20-radeon.conf file, but nothing works.

What the hell should I do now? I've never had this on any other computer.

>>57370008
Oh, and about IPv6. I'm thinking of replacing it and I've almost created the new version.

>>57370078
>I installed Arch
fouńd your problem

>>57370078
Arch Linux is for advanced users only. If you can't solve said problem yourself, please start over with Ubuntu.

>>57370000
NSA uses red hat afaik

>>57370088
epiç

>>57370129
Where do I obtain this 'red hat'?

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>>57370126
10/10

>>57367236
What Dns protect my freedoms like linux?

>>57370000
>BTW where were the systemd guys working again?

Lennart Poettering
Berlin, Germany
Poettering currently works for Red Hat.
Known for Avahi, PulseAudio, systemd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennart_Poettering

Kay Sievers
Berlin, Germany
He is currently employed by Red Hat, Inc. and previously has worked for Novell.
Known for udev, systemd, Gummiboot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Sievers

Harald Hoyer
Vaterstetten, Germany
He is employed by Red Hat, Inc.
Known for dracut, Gummiboot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Hoyer

David Herrmann
Red Hat, Inc.
Germany
https://github.com/dvdhrm

Daniel Mack
Red Hat
Berlin, Germany
https://github.com/zonque

Tom Gundersen
Red Hat
Oslo, Norway
https://github.com/teg

>>57370020

Of course!
No way there could be some.. uhm.. problem with systemd. No way that a PID 1 programm with.. how many? already 1 million LOC?

Anyway. The point is not to build a function "muhSecretBackdoor(){ }" or something.

But let's say a very small, a tiny exploit. Something nobody would notice. Or maybe put three of them in, just in case.

Oh well, it's one month ago that somebody found out how to shutdown systemd COMPLETEY with one line of code..

>https://threatpost.com/hack-crashes-linux-distros-with-48-characters-of-code/121052/


But hey, open source means we're safe, right?

>>57370161
opennic

>>57370161
Linux is nonfree software and doesn't protect you in any way,

>>57370165
nooice thanks for the "hit list" my mate
*boots up his hacker pc*

>>57370161
The one you set up yourself.

What's the best music player on Mint?

>>57370217
iTunes

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>>57367236
How to I get these colorful arrows on the prompt?

>>57370206
were is there a guide for this,and is a raspberry pi fine?

>>57370217
If you really use Mint, you have other problems than finding the best music player.

Just for the archives; who recommended you to install Mint?

>>57370226
zsh + oh-my-zsh

>>57370226
https://github.com/banga/powerline-shell

>>57370239
At this point, I wish'd I could strangle people over TCP.

>>57370253
oh-my-zsh is simple and lightweight

>>57370238
Well, after I was finished shitting on her chest, your mom suggested that I install Mint.

>>57370246
gtfo newfag

>>57370226
All you need is a patched font with powerline glyths. Install said font and there are your arrows.

>>57370262
KDE Shill, go to bed, it's too early

>>57370153
from red hat

>>57367327

I left LXDE for Mate as everything on my elitebook 8460p was supported out of the box

>>57367366

>>>/a/

>>57370287
Download link?

>>57370226
Check the copypasta collection in OP for the FONT PASTA, there are links to several patched fonts for powerline. Install them and check back here.
If you can see this:        it's working.

>>57370165

One thing to notice:

The "Federal Intelligence Service" of Germany has his headquaters in Pullach (near Munich), and Berlin.

Now the developers you listed work in berlin and Vaterstetten - which is 18 miles away from pullach.

>>57370297
>>>/r/eddit
>>57370319
>miles
>>>/r/eddit

>>57370226
https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh

>>57370333
Please stop spreading this macfag cancer.

>>57367407
My debian system uses under 100mb of RAM after booting with everything essential such as xorg and a DE installed. Comparing anything to Ubuntu will make it look good. Being better than Ubuntu is not saying much.

>>57370346
What's wrong with GNU/Mac?

>>57370328

30 km, that's about 18 miles, right?

>>57370367
>18 miles
Wouldn't know. I don't use retarded measurement systems

>>57370319
Vaterstetten is in Munich. I posted that because it's interesting, I'm not trying to imply anything about MUH NSA. Many of those people working on systemd have made contributions to other things, including udev, the kernel, wayland, etc.

>>57370382
>MUH
fucking stop before i blow your brains out

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>>57370333
For people who are interested what oh-my-zsh provides, here some things:

alias :3='echo'
alias visible='echo'
alias invisible='cat'
alias moar='more'
alias tldr='less'
alias alwayz='tail -f'

https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh/blob/master/plugins/lol/lol.plugin.zsh

Chuck Norris does not sleep. He waits. 

https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh/blob/master/plugins/chucknorris/chucknorris.plugin.zsh

alias brews='brew list -1'
alias bubo='brew update && brew outdated'
alias bubc='brew upgrade && brew cleanup'

https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh/blob/master/plugins/brew/brew.plugin.zsh

>>57370313
https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/enterprise-linux

but I wasn't referring to RHEL when I said “red hat”, I literally mean “red hat”. As in, the company's umbrella of services, development, whatever. For example NSA SELinux is primarily driven by Red Hat.

>>57370404
I'm behind 7 (seven) proxies bro.

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>>57370410

>>57370088
>>57370126

What the fuck are you doing in this thread anyway? If you don't know you aren't helping much by trying to be funny...

>>57370419
But how do they install a company on their computers? I need something I can burn to a CD drive and install in my computer.

>>57370447
>he doesn't know how to install arch
git gut newfriend, maybe try arch-anywhere

>>57370453
https://winworldpc.com/product/red-hat-linux

>>57370425
yeah?
*uses a tracer buster to defend myself from tracking*
*uploads a tracer worm to your pc*
*gains root access via a rootkit that was embedded into the tracer worm*
*uses the linux command su*
*rm -rf /*
lelelele

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>>57370382

>MUH NSA

And Wikileaks never happend? prism, Xkeyscore? No?

Faggot.

>>57370511
>Xkeyscore
oh yeah. I remember I worked on it for a while and then I was transferred
Pretty fun stuff

>>57370511
>And Wikileaks never happend? prism, Xkeyscore? No?

I don't remember saying any of that but OK, I guess you're right.

>>57370490
This is some old shit isn't it? I need current NSA level software if I am to surpass them.

>>57370509

>http://linuxbsdos.com/2012/04/29/what-will-rm-rf-actually-do-to-your-linuxbsd-machine/

>>57370555
>it's old
>it' not real

>>57370566
>implying I don't have a mini hacker kernel embedded into the tracer worm that overwrites commands to make them do what i want
wew

>>57370555
lol, then write it

NSA isn't even real lmao can't believe you guys are falling for basic jewish tricks.

>>57370555
use arch then. That's a majority of what they use.

>>57370567
But this isn't a real thing the NSA uses. I need something they train their recruits on.
>>57370600
I'm going to when I recruit enough people. I plan on using our own version of IPvX coupled with a custom linux kernel. I would need to remove about 90% of the bloat though.

fuck off KDE Shill, I already told you to sleep some more hours

>>57370610
They can't possibly be using it. I can hack it in no time.

>>57370627
One question you should ask yourself: If nothing of PRISM is real, why does Snowdnen need to hide?

>>57370641
I'd hide to with a haircut like that tbqh

>>57370648
Please leave this thread; adults are talking.

>>57370641
Snowden is actually a plot to undermine the country he is currently residing in. I thought this was common knowledge. You're right about PRISM being a false-flag operation though, or more accurately a black or shadow flag operation as we call it.

All my radeon tearing problems ended when I lauched awesome instead of xfce4

Something is mega fucky here...

>>57370686
were you running compton with xfce4?

>>57370675
see >>57370664

>>57370664
>adults
>90% shitposting
ok, gramps

>>57369984
try xinput --list-devices.

>>57370702
see >>57370664

>>57370717
no need to shitpost further

>>57370731
He's only trying to follow the example of the elders of the thread.

>>57370675
>or shadow flag as we call it
just leave.

>>57370752
see >>57370664

former CIA here
ama as we say on reddit

>>57370786
r u a big guy?

>>57370723
This didn't do anything.

>>57370809
i got this reference! xD

>>57370786
why aren't you using temple os?

>>57370830
if its not listed in xinput then you can just give up basically.

>>57370627
is there actually an implementation of ipvx out there? Legitimately asking. the kernel part wouldn't be terribly difficult depending on what you planned to do with it.

>>57370830
ah sorry xinput list is the proper command

>>57370809
>>57370831
4 u xD xD xD

>>57367327
>chance

mynigga.png

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>>57370786
does area 51 have aliens?

>>57367825
>someone pls explain what systemd and selinux even is to this nigger

Systemd is an init program. When Linux sets itself up and is ready to for userland to do its thing, it calls whatever program has been set up to be the init. This program is given the process id 1. This program starts everything else. PID 1 doesn't have to be systemd but it usually is in practice.

Being PID 1 means you know a lot about what's going on in a system. So that's where a lot of stuff ties in at. So if you want to start a service or stop one that's a logical place to look. If you want a program to run at boot that's where you go.

>>57370843
but I am
>>57370853
There is. Kind of, but that's more of a question for the NSA
>>57370902
I'm pretty sure it did at some point.

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>>57370917
Systemd is not an init system

>>57370699

only the stock WM. xfwm

>>57370849
When I use xinput --list I get this output.
It's listed

http://pastebin.com/GhVZEdbd

>>57370945
try compton, it should help or eliminate the tearing.

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>>57367291
>>57368658
>>57368858
Your file picker should have something like this
If you press the leftmost marked, you enable/disable icons.
If you use the rightmost slider (or ctrl+wheel) you can change the size of the thumbnails.
Is those options available?

>>57370879
see >>57370973

>>57370917
>Systemd is an init program.
Wrong.

pid1 is one small component of systemd. Maybe 1% at best. It's about a hundred lines or so long.

ITT: people who use smartphones, aka listening devices
ITT: people who use google, part of PRISM
ITT: people who use skype, part of PRISM
ITT: people who use linux, (includes unknown, binary only code aka botnet)
ITT: people who use sublime text, (includes unknown, binary only code aka botnet)
ITT: people who use flash, (includes unknown, binary only code aka botnet plus endless security holes)
ITT: people who use steam, (includes unknown, binary only code aka botnet)


and now the killer:
ITT: people who don't want to use systemd for "security reasons"

>>57370917
>>57370917


SELinux is mandatory access control. Think of it as file permissions on steroids. Say you have a http server. It is designed to send any file in your http folder over the internet. Well what if you have a bug that lets it send any file to a person who knows how to exploit that bug? Then any file which has a general read permission set will be able to be retrieved by this user. That a lot of stuff that you wouldn't generally think yeah I'd be cool with that being on my web page when you set the read permission.

A SELinux security context is usually implemented and associated with httpd. The user httpd is not allowed to access without the httpd read context. I forget what it's actually named. So when httpd, which is run under a user called httpd, tries to fill that request by the guy with the exploit the SELinux jumps in and denies it.

SELinux can get very complicated in what it allows and doesn't. There are all kinds of access control schemes and it can do them. The government classification schemes and compartmentalized information schemes mirror these access control models.

This is why the NSA helped build this in to Linux. The law requires them to implement these access control schemes on their computers and they use Linux a lot. Particularly they use Red Hat a lot.

So spy1 wants to access stuff on aliums in file aliumslol.txt. Law requires alium clearance and need to know. So the file contexts are set up to require the alium clearance and at least one of the reasons someone would need to know. spy1's account has been assigned alium clearance and need to know 3 (cuz the truth is out there mang). SELinux compares this with the file and lets him access the file.

>>57371033
a) tl;dr
b) saw SELinux, stopped reading here
c) faggot
d) kys
e) >>>/linuxmasterrace/

>>57370973
then you have hope. You can mess around in xinput --list-props 14 for it and see if they change something, also what the fuck is the UNKNOWN thing you have there. If it's listed in xinput it means its supported by the system, there must be a configuration error. Also you may want to try installing a new kernel from the backports repo:
https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
follow the instructions there, then install the 4.7 kernel with apt but add -t jessie-backports. I wont be able to help you though.

>>57370982
Yeah it has all of that. The thing is it doesn't enable the thumbnails even when I click the preview icon.

>>57371022
>systemd is totally secure guys, nothing to worry about here
Get back to >>>/x/ you reptilian.

>>57371083
what is the output of

grep -i Preview ~/.config/kdeglobals

?

have you installed the packages listed in
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dolphin#File_previews

>>57371089
systemd is free software which respects my freedoms. I don't see any problem with it. Provide arguments (sources welcome) or frindly fuck off.

can I video edit and make youtube videos with linux?

serious question. running ubuntu 16.10

>>57371133
no, linux is a kernel and can't do any video editing

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>>57370932
>>57371019
And my car isn't a means of transportation because it also is a power generator and a flash light. Going from a to b is actually very small on the list of things it can do. It can play music(99% of the lines of code are implementing various codecs in the in dash receiver).

>>57371133
small toy: ffmpeg
bug toy: blender

there are also lots of other video editing softwares, just searx that shit

>>57371146
can I video edit and make youtube videos with gnu/linux?

serious question. running ubuntu 16.10

>>57371157
I dont expect your car to try and run a webserver or a dns cache

>>57371174
>>57371171
get comfy with ffmpeg

what stuff do you want to make?

>>57371110
It's just [PreviewSettings]

I'm retarded and I edited the kdeglobals in .kde4/share/config. Should I just copy everything under [KFileDialog Settings] to ~./config/kdeglobals?

>>57371120
>Provide arguments
It's doing so many things so much better that it is killing off all the poor little programs. This shits all over traditional Linux philosophy which is get a bunch of little programs from a bunch of different people and try to make it hard to use while being able to technically claim it works.

>>57371195
kde4 uses ~/.kde4/...
plasma5 uses ~/.config/...

>>57371194
this list is good, sorry for plebbit: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4gfsqs/whats_everyones_favourite_video_editing_software/

>>57371222
Do you know if I have to create [KFileDialog Settings] in ~/.config/kdeglobals?
Thumbnails work in Dolphin just fine. It's the file picker that's fucked up.

>>57371070
I've been under the impression that the unknown device listed is my trackpad. It doesn't work very well so I figured there was an error with it and that's why it's listed as unknown.

I'll play around with it and try to figure it out. You've done plenty. Thanks.

>>57371194
I just realized that I also need to record gameplay so I may just have to deal with the botnet. Its retro stuff Id emulate to get the footage I need while doing in between analysis stuff. If ubuntu can do this with something like fraps that would be neat.

>>57370978

ok thanks but KDE is comfy as fuck

>>57371033
In particular, SELinux implements “read down, write up” policy which is an important concept in the field of espionage and data clearance.

For example, an agent with SECRET clearance is able to read data at lower clearance level (e.g. PUBLIC) but is not able to “write” data at that clearance level. (Any data produced by a SECRET agent is automatically forced to be SECRET or higher, so there's no risk of accidental exposure)

Similarly, an agent with SECRET clearance is not able to read anything with TOP SECRET clearance (for obvious reasons), but he is able to communicate data upwards.

Where and when data transitions clearance boundaries (e.g. SECRET -> PUBLIC) is well-defined and well-guarded by specific data release policies.

SELinux was essentially purpose-built to enable these kinds of semantics for arbitrary files on the filesystem - if I'm logged in as a user with SECRET clearance then it is impossible for me to create a file at PUBLIC clearance no matter what I try (which is why it's called *mandatory* access controls rather than *discretionary* access controls - with discretionary access controls I could just do `chmod o+r FILE` and violate the “no write down” policy).

It also has support for grouping these hiearachies into organizational units, so you can have multiple distinct operational groups within your premises operating with independent clearance levels.

>>57371290
ffmpeg can also record your screen, it's a pretty nice multi purpose tool

I have set it to two hotkeys, one to start record, one to kill it. Maxmimum comfy.

>>57371241
QSettings (which kde is based on) means you write

[catagory]
entry=value

So if the catagory is there, write it under it, if it isn't, write it yourself.

[KFileDialog Settings]
Previews=true

should do it.

>>57371192
If it did I wouldn't expect the entire autism spectrum to descend on me any time I suggested it's a vehicle.

F S   UID   PID  PPID  C PRI  NI ADDR SZ WCHAN  TTY          TIME CMD
4 S     0     1     0  0  80   0 - 49182 -      ?        00:00:04 systemd

>>57371304
kde plasma is cool, I moved from that to Budgie though. super comfy and not garbage + touchcentric like gnome 3.

>>57371319
the plot thickens.

thanks anon, I'll look into it so I can keep using ubuntu

>>57371343
kde is 1,5 GIG of bloat nobody needs

>>57371324
Still nothing.

get new memes here:
>>57371364

>>57371364

>>57371364

>>57371364

>>57371364

>>57371221

>Linux philosophy
How to spot someone parrotting things he has no idea about: the post.

>>57371070
After comparing the properties listed for this wireless mouse and the ones listed for a logitech mouse i have, that does work on my computer, I notice no differences what so ever.

>>57371290
Obs-studio, it's FLOSS

I want to install manjaro on my desktop because I put it on my laptop and love it, but when I try to install it, I get a flashing '-' in the top left corner and nothing comes of it. Threads online say it may have something to do with my nvidia gpu. Any ideas?

On a fresh install I always have problems with unicode not displaying properly and I ended up installing a package with fonts and magically it worked. I just don't remember what it was.
Anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>57367236
What are you doing on linux? I have no ideas what i can do

So first time back on XFCE in a very long time (switched when Plasma went stable on Arch way back). I want a bit more finite control of my application window list (Chromium does not follow the icon theme with the default applet). Dockbarx is the way to go it seems, but the problem appears to be that the xfce4 dockbarx plugin has not been updated since September 2015, whereas Dockbarx has had steady updates.

Trying to use the plugin nets me a blinking section on my taskbar, and that's it (standalone dockbarx runs fine of course). Is there a fix for this issue with the plugin short of finding a build from Sept 2015 and compiling it myself?

>>57367340
I don't even use Arch for lightweightness. I use it because I like bleeding edge software.

>>57367340
I like the granular control I get with Arch. I also like having bleeding edge software. The only issue I've ever run into updating is I once installed the non dkms drivers for my wireless card so I had to sneaker-net the drivers (changed to dkms, so I didn't lose wireless upon update).
The myths of Arch being unstable are very untrue. It can be unstable if you have some stupid as fuck config probably but if you can read and write configs properly you're not gonna break shit like idiots on here like to claim happens.

I'm new to using any OS other than Windows so I started using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. My question is about the launcher. Can I have the icons in the center of the bar? I don't having them all the way at the top.

>>57367236
Mapping a host port onto a qemu guest port is easy. But how do I map a qemu guest port onto a host port? I don't want to go through a router.

>>57375418
No. Uninstall memebuntu and install gentoo if you want to be able to do things as trivial as that without the whole OS telling you to fuck off because it doesn't listen to you.

>>57367340
'simple' and 'lightweight' with regard to arch is a complete meme. Hell, it even comes with systemd by default, the antithesis of simple or lightweight.
However, it has the AUR. The AUR is full on unstable crap, but when you want to install niche software, there's a package on the AUR for it, even if that software was revealed an hour ago and only 5 people in the world know about it. That alone is a valid reason to use arch.

On the other hand, never believe the archtards' memes about arch being stable and not breaking X with every single update. They're so retarded they don't know that software on GNU doesn't magically get reloaded when an update happens, and since they never restart their meme machines, they never realize their X has been broken for years. Of course, they notice when everything else breaks with every other update, but since it's every OTHER update instead of every update, they don't bother acknowledging that.

Well, that's one group of archinbreds anyway, the other is trying to justify fighting their OS of choice every day, denying reality as much as possible. "X only broke 5 times today, that's nothing!" they say, "You want stability? Enjoy your decade-old packages!" they cry.

Also don't fall for the arch derivative memes (such as manjaro), they're even worse than arch in every respect.

Honestly, Gentoo is the only GNU OS worth using in 2016. Of course you need something like ubuntu for the babbies for obvious reasons, but Gentoo is the most stable while having access to the second most packages (arch is the only one that beats it). Moreover, it can seamlessly provide stable or bleeding edge packages without having to turn the entire system unstable like you would in binary distros, and use flags mean you don't have to manually edit install scripts like in arch (or pray as in other distros) to use mate-gtk2 instead of mate-gtk3, for example.