AMD Radeon RX 485, RX 475 & RX 465 Graphics Cards Possibly

>>57327039
I just picked up the RX 480 I've got 30 days to return it. Will this shit come out in the next 30 days?

>>57327053

According to the article it's probably going to be the start of next year that the revisions come out. Dat performance per watt tho

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http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-4096-gcn/

I was about to get a GTX 1070, but I've read about Vega. Do I understand correctly, that in the next year AMD will roll out a new card in the 4xx line with performance matching 1070 or 1080?

>>57327541

From >>57327086

>AMD’s Vega 10 Debuting Before Year’s End – Features New V9 GCN Architecture

>Moving on to Vega 10, the GPU that most of you reading this are probably interested in. Vega 10 will be the very first GPU based on the company’s brand new GCN graphics architecture and 9th generation collection of visual IP. Vega 10 has been long in the making and we’ve heard so much about it over the past several months.

>The specifications for AMD’s upcoming flagship Radeon graphics card, Fury X successor, based on Vega 10 have been leaked on one of the company’s leading engineers’ LinkedIn page. Packing an impressive 4096 next generation V9 cores and an unbelievable 12 teraflops of compute performance. Putting it ahead of Nvidia’s top dog the $1200 GTX TItan X.

>>57327579
OK, but currently this is still speculation, correct?
Also, what kind of price could we expect from Vega GPUs? Will there be one for ~400$, with roughly the performance of 1070 or 1080?

>>57327039
if true fuck yeah, RX480s will be cheap as fuck, or you can save like 10W.

but we need RX490's

>>57327596

I suppose we'll find out in November.

>>57327579
>12 teraflops
i'll believe that when i see it.

>>57327616
>November
Where did you get that from?

>>57327579
12 teraflops with no proper drivers :^)

>>57327892
this

we've got a new bitcoin king though

also nvidia is going to shit its pants in 3-4 years when DX11 dies out

>>57327892
Do AMD drivers still have problems?
Should I go Nvidia if I want stability?
>>57327913
>bitcoin
>gpgpu
>2016
Pick at most 2.

>>57327952
>Nvidia
>drivers
haha I fucking bought a 1060 6gb nvidia just trying out nvidias shit. SHit ran like fucking garbage absolutely SHIT stuttering massive frame rate drops. I found out that the fucking assholes can't fix there god damn drivers. I was getting fucking massive fps drops in 10yr old fucking games. Fuck nvidia.

>>57328017
>bought a shit card
>surprised it's shit

>>57328070
The card itself wasn't bad its the fucking shit driver support by nvidia.

>>57328087
Yes the card is shit. Non shit pascals are 1070, 1080 and TITAN.

I have a 390 now, so I'm probably going to just wait until 590 or thereabouts.

>>57328122
card is good enough according to reviews?

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>>57328144
It's shit.

>>57327541
>hat in the next year AMD will roll out a new card in the 4xx line with performance matching 1070 or 1080?
maybe
but expect them to cost just as much, and or under perform significantly
just get a 1070 on sale now if you want good performance, vega is still a ways away.

>>57328279
1070 has pretty shit performance/cost ratio, especially for GPGPU. RX 480 is better, but it has low performance in general, so if there was a card twice as good as RX 480 for twice as much I would get it.

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>>57327579
>http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-4096-gcn/
>wccftech

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>>57327039

>>57328320
>high end gpu
>good price to performance
no. get that shit out of your head

>>57328367
Should I get 2x480 then?

People complain about AMD drivers but the drivers for my 980 have killed fallout 3 & new vegas since june, I have to roll back to a much older version to have it work

>>57328384
As I see it the only reason for crossfire is when you want more gpu power after a year or 2 and you can buy an extra (used) card for cheap.
Otherwise it's not worth the hassle

>>57327039
>WCCFTech
Get out.

>>57327952
Nvidia's drivers have been complete shit this year. Even just a couple of weeks ago they botched one and had to rush out a hotfix a couple of days later. More driver releases doesn't equal better drivers. I don't even know why I bother updating my 980 Ti, since they only optimise for Pascal now anyway.

rajeeshtech is never accurate

>>57328384
absolutely not.
NEVER do multi gpu solutions unless there is nothing better available

>>57327579
I wish that was true, meaning I could get the EVGA 1080Ti cheap.

>>57327039
How does a 485x tomorrow help me today?

>>57327039
Where the fuck is the 490 reee

>>57328251
that aint no benchmark i ever herd of nigger.

as long as theres a decent upgrade path for my 390 and i5 4590 ill go pure AMD

>>57328251
amd cards are just king of compute

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>>57332215
Which is why only buttcoin miners use them while all the important shit like Deep Learning and video rendering uses CUDA

>>57332285
I use my 2 hd7970s with BOINC as a space heater sometimes

>>57332285
Premiere Pro uses both cuda and Opencl, Davinci Resolve hs better render times with Opencl

>>57327039
I upgraded from a 7850 2GB, I'm fine, the refresh is only going to be 10% faster

if nothing else I can get an RX 470 super cheap and crossfire it with my RX 480 soon

>>57327541
Vega will be using HBM2, it'll probably end up about 40% faster than a Fury X at minimum

>>57332285
CUDA is an API for compute
CUDA is already irrelevant outside of the few Nvidia libraries out there and legacy stuff, pretty much everything is done in OpenCL nowadays
>>57333145
That's mostly because CUDA is deprecated, most effort is going towards OpenCL development

I'll never upgrade my 290X at this rate

>>57334563
390x owner here shit is comfy

>>57334570
Mah Hawaii bros
290 checking in

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>gpgpu
is this the current buzzword? have we moved on from ASIC?

>>57334612
Did you sleep the last 10 years or something m8?
Also, ASIC has never have anything to do with GPGPU, ASIC's aren't General Purpose by definition
Oh wait, you're thinking about buttcoin mining, how fucking retarded can you get holy shit

>>57334637
no I'm talking about gayming autists spewing shit about how their card has a 92% ASIC value so that means that they can overclock it more.

>>57334424
what is actually made in OpenCL?
I know that nVidia has bought out MetalRay from Autodesk to make it CUDA compatible, I have not hear of one OpenCL renderer for example.

>>57334656
What specific ASIC are you talking about?
Calculator MCU is by definition an ASIC.

>>57330048
This. Driver quality for my 680 has gone down since upgrading to 10. Shadowplay constantly crashes too, it's like they're half assing it.

>>57334684
GPU-Z has a test that determines the "quality" of a chip, they higher it was the higher it overclocked according to them
They called it ASIC quality for some unknown reason, that's what he refers to

>>57327086
>amd's last card was only as powerful as a gtx 970 oc
>next card they make is more powerful than a Titan pascal
>wcctech

Allow me to express my doubts.

>>57334746
>AMD's last card was intended as a low end card
>it performs as the last gen mid ranger
>somehow this means they can't make a high end card
Allow me to express my retardation

>>57328384
>dual GPU
>when you care abou cost to performance
lmao
the best price to performance RN is probably either RX 470 or GTX 1060

>>57334679
>I have not hear of one OpenCL renderer for example.
Cycles, Luxrender.

>>57334713
You're pretty much wrong on all counts.
GPU-Z isn't performing any test to determine that value. The ASIC quality is a value the GPU itself determines in a self check on boot and records to a small bank of registers, GPU-Z is just reading what is recorded there.
The metric doesn't tell you necessarily anything about how a card overclocks.

Generally higher leakage dies can hit higher clocks. These are what GPU-Z would show as having a lower % rating
Generally lower leakage dies can operate at lower drive voltages, but may not hit as high of clocks. These dies would have a higher rating.

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You know what,

I've gotten my hopes up for AMD cards so many times, because /g/ always hypes them into oblivion.

Fury X was going to shit on Nvidia, it didn't.

Then Polaris would be 980/980ti level, it ended up being in between 970/980 level with the same power draw as a 1070, which is 980ti level.

This time, I'm not going to hype the cards as much anymore, that will only lead to disappointment.

I expect the big Vega card to be slightly slower than the 1080ti, which will inevitably come, while being less power efficient.

That seems like a reasonable expectation based on how the 14nm process is working out for AMD so far and based on the past.

Ofcourse that's not what alot of AMD fanboys want to believe, they always speak about that next card that will blow Nvidia away, have you noticed it's always just around the corner.

Learn from the past, stop overhyping cards.

>>57335645
>It didn't
It does now.
Fury X shits on 980ti in recent games, especially if they dare to use DX12 - but even without DX12, Fury X is pulling ahead.

>>57335645
>/g/ always hypes them into oblivion.
This is just unfounded fanboyism, you're listening to retards.
The RX 480 was billed from the very beginning as an entry level VR card. Oculus themselves have the GTX 970 and R9 290 listed as the minimum recommended GPUs.
This is exactly where the RX 480 performs.

AMD themselves say one thing, hopelessly retarded fanboys say another. It is always like this.

>>57335662
>Fury X shits on 980ti in recent games
In a few games, and in many others, the 980ti shits on the fury x, stop being a dumbass fanboy

>>57335686
>hopelessly retarded fanboys say another. It is always like this.
Which was exactly my point

>>57335645
FuryX did what it needed to do, become Titan X competition, problem was that GTX980Ti fucked both cards in the ass, not that AMD failed.

Polaris wasn't supposed to be anything that it's not, it was always advertised as VR ready card for cheap, nothing else. You took info from WCC and got hyped, that is your problem.

Can you try and be fucking rational for once in you pathetic life?

>>57335808
>FuryX did what it needed to do, become Titan X competition
Which isn't enough, since there is a 980ti, and there will be a 1080ti this time

>>57335808
>Can you try and be fucking rational for once in you pathetic life?

I find it amuzing that people can actualy get this worked up over a discussion on graphics cards. You must be a very unhappy person

>>57335888
this

>>57327039
I'm upgrading from an ati hd2400 pro to a gtx 1060, is enough delayed for you?

>>57335888
it means I'm very passionate person not unhappy, you wouldn't know what passion and happy is tho.

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>putting together a dual STRIX rx 480 rig today when mail delivers

I can't wait damnit

I literally bought a 480 5 days ago...

AMDshitters must be the healthiest people in the world because they never buy anything

Just wait

>>57335967
>it means I'm very passionate
You mean you're a fanboy, who would have guessed

Only interesting if you are gamign at max. FullHD.

But anyways, all those are shitty rebrands in the end.

If AMD doesn't manage to bring out RX580/RX590 (and they better be good performance-effiency wise) before the refreshment of Nvidia's Pascal cards, I am going with Nvidia.

>>57336229
When pascal comes out AMD fans will be able to wait for the revision of pascal. AMD users REALLY love waiting.

>>57328491
That was not Nvidia's fault but Microsoft, that's what you get for being a Windows 10 cuck.

Those two games also crash on AMD hardware.

>>57336343
>AMD drivers not working with windows 10 is AMD's fault
>nvidia's drivers not working with windows 10 is Microsoft's fault

>>57336356
holy shit are you fucking retarded or what

Do you always update Windows 10 without checking the fucking logs?


The Windows 10 update broke Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

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>>57327039
>bought R9 390 5 days before RX480 dropped for $100 less then RX480
>people said 480 would be the better buy
>tfw

future graphic card owners will never know the comfy feeling of running GPU benchmarks to warm up their feet-heaters

>>57336356

>Bethesda's pajeet coding is AMD's, Nvidia's or Microsoft's fault

can't wait for my 1050 ti!! nvidia all the way!!

>>57328251
Funny that the AMD 7970 card is years old with no Nvidia cards it competed with nor the next generation from Nvidia either on there competing with it. Sad how bad Nvidia cards are after a year. Drivers shit and the hardware doesn't last unless you buy the absolute best.

>>57336395
>0.1Rupee have been deposited to your Nvidia Gaming™ Pro™ account Mr. Rasheesh.

>>57336426
HD 7970 was also a fucking solid card to begin with.

>>57336433
7970 and 7950 were beasts. They still are if you have them.

>It's an everyone gets hyped up for an AMD card and then it actually comes out and it's a pile of garbage episode

>>57336459
Then it's a pile of garbage. Who the fuck cares? Fanboying doesn't pay unless you are sponsored.

>>57336429
the 1050 ti is a great card ya know?

>>57336254
One day it will be good.

>>57330048
>>57328017
I have a GTX 1060 with the latest Driver and it works like a charm.

> frame drops on 10+ years old games
This isn't an issue that a better card or a better driver would solve. You should feel lucky for driving an old game at a sustainable fps level.

>>57336490
It's in a pretty terrible spot price/performance-wise. 470 is only $30 more and performs MUCH better.

>>57336520
not on my country, nvidia is cheaper than it's amd counterparts for some reason

>>57327596
It leaked out of linkedin which generally is correct, so probably legit.

I'm curious if the "490" if that exists is a 4 site HBM or 8 site, because a 8 site HBM is pretty god damn expensive for a 490 tier card. I suppose 6 site could be possible?

>>57336446
Tfw i got 280x barely used for 140€ back in 2014. Still no reason to upgrade

>>57327039
>Paid $153 for a 480
Doesn't feel bad senpai

>>57336750
Yea. Anyone with an i5 7950/280/380 on special hasn't had to upgrade in years. I still have a 2500k machine running and a 4690k.

>>57336783
I might pair it with a good zen cpu if they offer something good and cheap, but otherwise im waiting for as long as i can

>>57336783
7950 Boost here senpai

>>57336812
It will interesting to see if Zen is any good. Hoping the APU bundles are pretty good at the least.

>>57336825
I put my old 7950 w/boost into a comp for one of the kiddos. It just won't die even overclocked.

>>57327952
For the last 2 years I didn't have issues with AMD drivers.
It wasn't as easy back to 2010 though.

>>57336825
My sapphire dual x 7950 is tucked away in an anti static bag in a gpu box. Picked it up for 130$ refurbished back in 2014. Hell of a card that happily ran 1090 core and 1400 mem. Replaced by a 470 that I then sold and swapped for a 480 gtr when it was on sale. Was going to put the ol 7950 in a build for my nephew until a friend decided to give me his gtx 970 for the cost of shipping. Dunno what I'm gonna do with that card now.

>>57336902
Do you use them on linux?

>>57336916
Nope, it was Windows 7 with a 5770. I still love that card.

>>57336906
Is 480 really that much of a jump from a 470? To me they look so unbelievably similar and similar in price it makes me wonder why they released both of them

>Believing the lies of Currytech

I'm still on a 5850.

>>57336939
Yes and no. Msi 4gb gaming x 470 ran perfectly stable stock voltages at 1350 core and 1850 mem ran roughly the same as a stock 480, maybe slightly better. But the aib 480s(not gigabyte or powercolor) are much more heavily built, and the 480 by nature clocks quite a bit better. My gtr is stock 1340 on the core, and will run 1400 core/2300 mem with +30mV and +15% power limit.

In my opinion it boils down to are you trying to get the absolute best price:perf, or is the extra 20-40$ worth that extra bit of performance and overclocking? If I were to suggest any 470 to anyone it would be the msi, or the xfx rs. Although it memory serves, the nitro 4gb actually has 2000mhz memory. Xfx and Sapphire also use Samsung memory whereas msi does not. The prices are really fucked up for the mainstream and low end cards this generation.

>>57337901
Forgot to mention I had to increase the power limit on the msi to +22%.