Now that its been proven that EVGA 10 series card's vrm

does EVGA still offer free lifetime warranty?

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>>57302893
dont think they ever had a lifetime warranty.

>>57302878
Gigabyte for sure.
Going to get this one instead.
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5958#kf

>dude, why aren't you overclocking? It's like free performance

>>57302878
MSI aren't any better. Their cards have been burning up too.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4zn0m8/msi_gtx_1070_gaming_x_exploded_and_rma_rejected/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/53yorc/msi_gtx_1080_gaming_x_exploded_possible_design/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/522bzy/anyone_else_had_a_1080_explode_on_them/

>>57302878
Pascal is literally Fermi and most cards will fry to death in under 2 years, but go with MSI they have the best heatsinks

XFX because I'm not a cuck

>not using reference cards or cards based on the reference design
>using fifty fan xXgAyMuRxXx designs
>trusting these companies not to jew you out to save fitty cents on cooler materials

Nothing wrong with Evga's version of the reference design. Same with the other manufacturers. Evga even offers their reference as a SC version.

>>57302969
>https://tech4gamers.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-quality-problem-in-china-100-rma-return-rate/
Also affects cards in the US.

>http://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/gtx-1070-micron-memory
EVGA, Gainward, and Palit confirmed for swapping Samsung VRAM for cheaper/shittier Micron VRAM.

>https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/580b8w/welp_my_evga_1070_ftw_just_killed_itself/
EVGA 1070 bursting into flames.

>https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?88228-Strix-1070-O8G-fan-issues
ANUS strix fans are faulty.

And the list goes on...

Why the fuck would you buy anything other than Gigabyte when it comes to Nvidia? G1 Gaming GTX 970 best GTX 970 released, G1 Gaming and Extreme GTX 980Ti best GTX 980Ti released.

Meanwhile EVGA release for the GTX970 was a complete fuck up, they used really shitty power phases(admitted by EVGA rep in the overclockers forum) and the cards couldn't even keep stock clocks let alone overclock at all despite being 8+6-Pin, not even bios modding could save it , in fact it took then until the EVGA Fallout 4 edition to get it match the G1 Gaming GTX 970.
They still sell those shitty PCBs as the GTX 970 Bestbuy edition.


Literally only fanboys and brandloyalist buy EVGA

>>57303020
but gigabyte cards are so ugly looking

>>57303045
So? you're one of those idiots that buy cases with windowed panels are you?

>>57303017
>shittier Micron

lol nigga please, Micron makes Crucial which is some of the most reliable RAM. If you read further than the title you'd see it's most likely due to the different BIOS between the RAM types.

>>57303045
Are you jacking off to your card or what?

>>57302878
Is my 680 going to blow up?

>>57303057

>his RAM isn't color coded to his GPU

plebian

I have zotac 1070 amp edition it has a nice backplate and Samsung ram

>>57303072
idiot, with modern gpus you can change the color of the leds

>>57302878
I...I am sorry AMD. I shilled for NVIDIA and thi...this is where it got us. They even gave me a 1080, but I can see it's not worth it now. Please ...AMD please if you are still alive help us.

>>57303060
>Make is great
Nice try, but you're not fooling anybody.

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>>57303060
>Micron makes Crucial which is some of the most reliable RAM

Micron also own Elpida, which has historically been the absolute shittiest VRAM you can get. The idea that a company can't make cheap, shitty products because they also make good ones is why people buy things like Corsair's cheap, shitty low end PSUs. Because they can't be bad if they have the famous Corsair logo on them! :^)

>>57303077
HELL YEA.

>zotac master race

>>57303068

No

>>57303060
>the most reliable RAM
I have been building and using computers since 1996. I have never, EVER, seen a defective stick of RAM in my entire life, despite overclocking and helping idiots who handle the sticks with no idea how to hold them, how to insert them or even what static is.

>>57303012

Are SSC cards still reference? I got an SSC 1060 just a few days ago and am slightly concerned now.

>Buying nvidia gap generation cards
Lol i got burnt with the 770 so never again

Just wait for Volta

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its an Ayymdrone conspiracy in revenge for the rx480 motherboard frying

i fucking hate my evga 980 ti.

im going back to gigabyte, they never let me down.

>>57303020
>>57303057
>>57303061
Aesthetics aside, I never seen any card sag as badly as a gigabyte card. Say what you will, ugly or not, but the amount of stress on the PCB to cause that level of sag is never healthy.

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nvidiot here dont try to STOP ME GUYS IMMA DO IT GOODBYE

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>>57303199
By reference, I mean the reference heatsink and shroud design, the one engineered by Nvidia.

I'm not sure if their SSC uses a reference PCB, though I'm very sure they don't offer it using a reference heatsink.

Love it or hate it, the reference heatshink adequately cools all of the components and is full-body, preventing any sag.

>>57303309
This. I had a gigabyte r9 280 and that thing sagged was bent from sagging.

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>>57303077
its not just the type of ram, its also the fact that evga coolers don't cool the vrm.

left is a zotac and right is evga. notice how the thermal pads on the zotac cooler makes direct contact with the cooler? nothing on the evga cooler.

evga is now adding thermal pads and giving free thermal pads to those with evga cards, but thats not good enough if the thermal pads don't make any contact with the cooler.

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>>57302878
Honestly I'm not that bothered. If it blows up I'll just RMA it. I'm not really in the mood to gut the card and install the pads, desu.

>>57303183
Clearly you've never owned OCZ ram then.

>>57303000
As far as amd cards go they haven't failed me yet

>>57303418
there is a small chance tho that the gpu could take out some of your other components as well.

So Gigabyte and Zotac are the only 2 companies that aren't either reporting explosions (EVGA, MSI), using shitty Micron VRAM (Gainward, Palit) or having faulty fans (ASUS)

Remember to buy Gigabyte/Zotac, boys.

Zotac obviously

There's a good deal on a zotac 1060 6gb for £220. I'm tempted to buy it.

>>57303109
not this shit again

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nvidia user here just kill me already i cant handle this life anymore

>>57303449
I'd rather take that chance. If I RMA it now, the chance of getting a refurbished card is much higher than if it blows up in, let's say, 3 months or so.
Mine isn't even 1 month old.

Plus what >>57303409 said. I don't think it'll make a good contact with the cooler even with thermal pads. The dissipation surface is really really tiny. It only covers the gpu itself.

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>tfw you fell for the nVidia meme

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>>57303309
>Allowing your card weight to rely on just the PCI connector

You can use your hands for more than just fapping, you know

>>57303464
The ram is not shitty it just isn't optimized. Nvidia put out a notice saying there will be an update for the micron ram

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>>57303000
XFX is good shit. They've set the bar high the latest line up of AMD gpu's.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5a2zuy/just_an_aircooled_rx_480_doing_15002100_stable/

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ITS OVER GUISE I SHOULDVE LISTENED TO THE AMD USERS

SEE YOU IN THE NEXT LIFETIME, FELLOW NVIDIOTS. MAYBE NEXT TIME WE WONT BE SUCH GULLIBLE KEKS

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>>57303487
>>57303500
>>57303526

>muh fanboy wars

Jesus Christ go and make eye contact with another human being or something instead of shitting up threads

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>>57303542

nice one. you nvidia too? me too bro. NVIDIA FTW YOU CANT SLAMFIRE THE HOUSEFIRE.

>>57303556
>you nvidia too?

No I own a 290.

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>>57303409
heres the cooler for the gigabyte 1070 extreme.

you can tell how flawed the evga cooling system is compared to the other partners.

>>57303000
they dont make nvidia cards tho

>>57302991
Gigabyte G1 cards actually have thermal pads for VRMs, even on the back side (against the metal backplate). They aren't the most quiet however.

>>57303000
Glad I picked mine up off of eBay before the prices went up

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DELETE THIS !!

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>tfw xfx for years
>never had a single problem

>>57303309
My G1 Gaming GTX 970 don't sags at all, even my old Reference HD7950 sag and this one doesn't, you just have a shitty case without proper brackets or shitty motherboard PCIE slots.

>>57302878
KFA2 and nothing else. They're dedicated to NVIDIA cards and never let me down once. I think they go by the name og GALAXY Technology outside of Europe.

>>57303504
Nah, the ram is shitty.

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>>57302878
1080 owner here, since reading about this whole VRAM fuck up I played Battlefield 4 with everything maxed out on 1440p with my case open and checked on how hot it was the backplate and even though it's a bit warmer to the touch it never seems to get red hot melting like everyone suggests. Tom's Hardware Germany published some pics with temps going as high as 100°C but this is nowhere near that.
What say you /g/ ?

>tfw you're running 2 evga 1080s

how fucked am I?

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Avoid the big three: EVGA, MSI and Asus. The holy trinity of Jewvidia AIBs.

Incidentally normies and newfags buy their shit up because these crooked fuckers are always in reviews, comparisons and lists.

I don't know how it's gone on so long. They all have chink shit tier components and dumb board designs that leads to temp issues, not to mention they've switched to Memecron DDRG5.

I'm triggered by EVGAs recent market dominance, FTW! More like WTF!

People should stop enabling such Mercantilsm. Stick with Zotac, Palit, PNY and KFA2.

>>57304146
They're not measuring the backplate, they're measuring the components themselves, backplate taken off if the card has one. You can expect temps to be generally worse with a backplate on if there aren't thermal pads on the hot components, if there are it should act like a heatsink and actually improve the situation.

I was sort of regretting the fact that I got 1080 G1s because of their lower power target, but now with almost everything else fucking VRMs I'm glad I took the time to look into cooling systems when I bought my cards, making sure whatever I bought had VRM and VRAM thermal pads.

>>57303020
Woah woah woah, idk about now but i remember when evga made top quality parts. I built a all evga q6700 core2duo quad, over clocked that bitch to 3.46 and oc the fuck outa the gfx card and ran it for years till i gave it away to a friend who still uses it to this day. (God bless his soul, shits outa date as fuck now)

>>57302893
That's XFX you're thinking about there.

>>57304146
well theres no way for you to measure the vrm temps because there are no sensors. the only way to do it is with those thermal gun thingies the tech websites use.

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>people pay $50/$100 more for memebrands instead of going with the best deal which usually means buying ZOTAC

i shiggy diggy

>>57304195
Maybe you got lucky. I had a Q6600 on an EVGA 680i board. The thing was fucking terrible, hot northbridge that needed to be repasted, FSB holes that fucked with OC, generally hard to work with when OCing. I managed to get the CPU to ~3.5GHz (which wasn't that great IIRC), but the shitty board became less and less stable as time went on. SATA controller started shitting itself too, it eventually died completely like a month outside of warranty. Sold the Q6600, bought an i5 750/P55 system, ran that shit at 4GHz 24/7 for 3-4 years with 0 stability issues and it's still running perfectly well even today, I gave it to my dad (at stock though). EVGA/NVIDIA motherboards never again.

Reminder that PNY is patricians choice. Cheap, made in the USA, and lifetime warranties.

>>57304246
zotac is the same exact price as evga and msi.

>>57304285
it's cheaper

>>57304246
Fun fact, Zotac is owned by PCPartner, who also happen to own based Sapphire.

>>57304305
>AMD
no

>>57304194
>>57304211
got it.

This is fucked up, I guess I'll get some thermal pads and see how it goes

>>57303109
this is still a picture of the ftw version right?

>>57304305
>Based Sapphire
The only ATI card I had was a Sapphire and it never let me down.

>>57304190
>ifunny.co
It would have taken all of 2 minutes to crop that out in paint, giving you a leisurely 1.5 minutes to be a retard.

I went with Asus before all this went down.

Got a buddy who has two EVGA 1070s, not sure how Im gonna break it to him.

>>57303504
there already was an update

>>57303409
Based Zotac.

They never get enough credit.

>>57302878
I'm still holding out with my Watercooled R9 290 until Vega comes out. By then one of two things will have occured:

a. EVGA will have gotten their shit figured out with GTX 10 series cards, or
b. XFX will have a kickass card with comparable performance to a 1080 and a 3 year warranty.

Either way its probably gonna be 2017 when I get a new GPU. Let's all hope that Vulkan isn't a meme

>>57302878
>which company are you going with now? MSI, Asus, Gigabyte?
>not mentioning Palit, Gainward, Zotac and PNY

kys shill

>tfw my gigabyte r290 is still kicking
>tfw never buy shit on release

yo since this is a gpu thread.

GeForce GTX 1060 Windforce OC GV-N1060WF2OC-6GD
vs
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 970 4GB

No hate pls, dirt poor and would accept any other offer till $250 - 300 dollarions

But question is, 256 bits vs 2gb more vram and latest tech, am thinking for the long game here (at least 3 years or so)

>>57303127
>Micron also own Elpida
Elpida is so fucking shit, any of the r9 200s/r9 300s with it came with one big fucking problem: random freezes, like total fucking freeze, and there is no way to tell when it hits. So if you have hynix in your r9 290 or r9 380x, you lucked out.

>>57305012
>ZOTAC GeForce GTX 970 4GB
>GTX 970 4GB
>4GB
There is no reason to buy a 3.5 meme card in 2016. Save your fucking money for 2017.

>>57305098
I was mostly arguing if the 256 bits are worth it when the other one is newer and has more vrams, could help for the long game.

>>57302911
>>57304206

They had lifetime in 2011. Last card to have it was the gtx 570 kys

>There were several investigations by a number of reputable technology outlets to try and identify the culprit behind it all. It was discovered that the issue originates from the voltage regulation modules which overheat leading to component failure and MOSFET blow out. The issue affects EVGA’s entire range of Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 cards equipped with the ACX cooler, all of which lack direct VRM cooling. This includes GTX 1080 & 1070 ACX, SC, FTW & FTW DT models. Essentially all dual fan models except the Classified.

>Prior to this discovery, EVGA GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 owners had been consistently complaining about component failure, instability issues and black screens. All of which have now been linked to the same VRM overheating issue.

>>57303597
That's the point.

>>57305400
>EVGA’s voltage regulation circuitry is not to blame for the mishap. The solution is rated to withstand temperatures of up to 125c and deliver up to 200 amps of current at that temperature. Enough to keep the GTX 1080’s 180 amp requirements happily met with some small room to spare for overclocking.

>Unfortunately a good VRM design is not complete without a sufficient cooling solution and EVGA completely skipped the latter. The VRMs have no individual heatsinks and are in no way connected to the GPU heatsink with thermal pads, as is often done to cool VRMs. Hot air gets trapped creating a hotspot which slowly cooks the circuitry. Which ends up heating itself, eventually crossing the point of thermal runaway and failing without warning.

So those thermal pads they are adding will do nothing since there is no direct contact with the cooler. They need to redesign the entire cooler.

Zotac master race reporting in

>>57305135
>Nvidia
>long game
GPU tech overdue for a shakeup, brace yourself for increasing amounts of RAM at 8, 16, and 32GB models starting next year.

>>57302878
>buying NVIDIA

>>57304305
>based Sapphire.
their polaris cards are pretty trash desu

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>the vast majority of brands are royally fucked and there is nothing you can do about it because even if you add pads, there's nothing for them to make contact with
>it's not a matter of if or maybe, your card WILL blow up sooner or later by running way beyond the temperature it should be at on the VRMs
>a bunch of them have garbage memory
>one has defective fans

This is Xbox 360 launch tier, holy fucking shit, so fucking glad I didn't fall for the pascal meme.

>mfw there are people who actually pay to beta test brand new shit instead of waiting for them to iron out the kinks that invariably will show up in time

>>57303464
Inno3D also.

>>57303588
>>57303409
>gaymurr nvidiot shitbrand exposed as shit

Who'd have thought? I always knew EVGA was overrated GARBAGE.

Now there's proof.

Their sales are literally coming from retards who think EVGA are the best choice for nVidia cards.

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>mfw I realize there's actually a huge amount of people that went from a GTX 970 to a 1070/1080

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xfx, powercolor or sapphire

>>57302878
What about PNY?
will those blow up too?

>>57305479
>already have 8
Thanks 390x, ill be riding you till what ever comes after vega

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guys, is this only an issue on the ftw or is my 1070 SC affected too?

>>57302878
Zotac, Palit, Gygabyte, Asus.

>>57306203
you're fucked

>>57306203
All ACX based cards, so yes.

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>>57305939
i have no problems so far with it.

can recomend pny

Glad I always go with Asus Strix

Anyone received their thermal pads from EVGA yet? Where do you put them?

>>57302878
Palit

>>57306218
>>57306223
ok, so what do i do? return it and get a diff brand or ya think evga will offer a replacement at some point? only got the thing few days go

>>57306203

ALL dual fan cards except the Classified.

If you have Founders or Classified, you're fine. Anything else and you're fucked.

>>57306299

You're not entirely safe. There are reports of fan issues with ASUS 1070/1080 cards. Fans just randomly dying.

Luckily, if your fans die, you'll likely just jump in core temp and experience a throttling/card thermal safety shutdown. That won't hurt your card, just probably crash your PC at worst.

Your card won't blow the fuck up like EVGA and MSI.

>>57306939
>Your card won't blow the fuck up like EVGA and MSI.
Where's the MSI stories?

Was Fermi ever this bad? I mean, yes GF100 based cards had a well earned reputation for being power-hoggy housefires, but outside of that did it ever actually have any of the problems this generation has had?

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>>57302878

>>57307049
kek'd

>>57302878
still evga

>>57306811
They offer you free thermal pads, but you have to install them yourself.

>>57302878
Yeah well when this happened to me on my 480GTX they told me they dont have the serial in their DB therefore no warranty for me.
Nvidia never again

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>>57305400
>>57305413
Please next time add a FUCKING LINK, thank you.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-1070-evga-cards-dying/
https://www.techpowerup.com/227133/evga-gtx-1070-1080-overheating-issues-company-says-thermal-pads-a-solution

>EVGA stresses that ... no overheating issues are present ... by using it as is ...
So somebody clearly lies. Customers with burnt down houses, reviewers, jews or the EVGA.
Apparently somebody decided that cooling other parts of card than the main GPU core is a meme.
And I guess I was stupid as well, because this is the first time I have heard about such thing. Well, I hope I will be less stupid in my next purchase :-(

>So tldr how to blow up my own card:
Having FTW edition.
Doing additional overclocking by myself.
Running furmark for few minutes in room at summer around 30°C.
>Minimize risk:
Not doing OC or underclothing card.
Requesting thermal pads here
http://www.evga.com/thermalmod/
to lessen the impact
>solve problem
simply flush my card down the toilet
and buy from better manufacturer new one

GG. I have lost by blindly buying card from the most internet wise shilled manufacturer.
The fact I am running this card 3rd month without problems doesn't mean it isn't slowly overheating and preparing to blow up my house in hell fires. Shame I can't return it anymore and just go for palit or something similar :-(
I can only wait for it to burn down and then return it, be few weeks without GPU and then get brand new one which will probably burn my house in a few months again...

Send help /g/!

>>57302893
Thats bfg youre thinking about.

>>57304190
PNY are the patrician choice of Nvidia AIB. They produce Quadros and reference coolers for Nvidia, meaning their build quality is second to none.

>>57302878
>Anus
Never

>>57305511
They are, but because they're built down to a price. No vapour chambers, no huge coolers full of copper. Their Fury Nitro cooler is THE best cooler I've ever owned. It keeps that 300W housefire around 70 degrees whilst the fans barely spin. It's witchcraft. Pity Fiji itself is kind of trash.

I'm sure they'll be back with some fancy, amazing cooler for Vega, since the price point will allow it.

Why don't they just put a thermalpad or heatsink on them LMFAO

feels nice to be on water cooling :^)

>>57308016
Because saving 0.1 cents per card is more important. Not to mention that Nvidia cards don't have VRM temperature sensors, so this isn't something an end user would ever notice. It's those pesky reviewers with their thermal imaging cameras who let the cat out of the bag. EVGA don't send out many review samples, so I guess this is payback.

>>57305164
Yeah, EVGA dropped their life-time warranty to 3 years some time ago.

But their RMA is Zero hassle.

If you're scared of those arrogant Asian GPU makers denying an RMA, go EVGA.

>>57305413
It only has contact with the flat, black base plate.

Which isn't quite enough.

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>>57303635
I managed to get a xfx 290 Dd for only €280 during a black Friday sale 2 years ago and I love the card

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>>57307942

>>57308110
Already requested the thermal pad mod. Sure hope they include a bit of ceramic paste, because I only have silver based one.

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>>57307942
>>57308110
Alright, I have done my part in pic related.

Still now I am looking forward to disassembling my card if the meme pads will ever arrive. I have never done such thing ever before, but I guess this is a tax for being stupid and being part of PC master race.

And yes, your pic triggered me. I wonder if at least one person in EVGA will get slapped for this.

This won't affect the 1050 Ti, right? Just got a reference board one for my HTPC.

>>57308164
It's not hard. The only messy part is actually cleaning up the old paste.

>>57308200
My bet is that they will slap EXACTLY same cooler on all models based on fact that:
if it cools down 1080, it sure will cool down 1050
>and when RMA department will add fact
even when we send these meme pads to customers like >>57308164
it is still cheaper for us to keep selling flawed cooled GPUs and replace few burn down houses than to redesign and start selling something entirely new

Shame is that almost nobody will ever know this.
Because why do the best when mediocre sells better?
Fuck I hate capitalism atm. I need go back to
>>>/v/
to coll down.

>>57308253

yeah go back to /v/ this whole paxwell ordeal was such a shitshow. the switch from tsmc to samsung might fix things

>>57308110
Wonder if they'll be forced to send out new heatsinks too

Sounds like right now they're trying to wiggle their way out with saying thermal pads will be enough

>>57308381
I wonder if you'll ever have any issues if you decide against overclocking.
I, myself, bought the 1070 FTW with OCing in mind, in the future that is. But then again, If someone guarantees I'll never have issues if I don't OC, I won't even bother opening the card up.

>>57303109
haven't seen this in a while

>>57307747
Which don't do anything because they don't make contact with anything.

>>57306811
If you can return them, then don't even think twice about it. Return this pos ASAP. This is not a matter of maybe or if, it WILL fail on you sooner or later.

>>57305619
its the same for all tech stuff. the first batch of them have a huge amount of problems. thats why i never understood people that wait in line for hours for a new console or a new phone.

>>57306988
reports from chinese versions of MSI cards had faulty ram. not sure if EU and NA were affected.

>>57303000
My XFX Fury card has terrible coil whine. I regret buying it, even if it only cost 250€.
Aside from the coil whine it's a good card though.

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>>57307002

>>57309406
Holy shit, I did not know any of the GF104/114 cards had issues like that.

>>57306811
if you bought from amazon, i think they will exchange it for a different brand of equal value. just show them the news of how faulty the evga cards are and you dont want to take the risk of your card burning down a few months or years down the line.

i remember they gave me like a $30 gift card when the whole 3.5 meme shit happened. thats why i buy most of my electronic shit from amazon, its really hassle free when it comes to returns.

>>57304250
If by usa you mean the Philippines sure

>>57303203
funny, never seen an amd fx 8350 going more than 55°C

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>>57307942
>underclothing card

>>57309523
Shut up, shill.

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>>57309546

>>57303526
I would unironically buy AMD if they made stuff as powerful as the 1080.

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>>57309546
and contuing

>>57304406
>triggered because no doubt owns a house fire tier card
>Y-Y-You're post is irrelevant because of a few pixels in your pic!!

>>57309597
Learn to speak English, Pajeet.

>>57309597
Because amd processors literally thermal shut down and DIE if they break 60c, whereas Intel can operate up to 100c.

Like seriously what kind of factory are they making these processors? TSMC's restroom?

>>57309621
sorry, haven't gotten the shekels, so english must bad be. will shill more if u want

>>57309626
soooo, if the hardware stops themselves at some thermal point, you would see loss of performance...
i didn't, so shill more

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overclock the card to heaven

man I had a bit of brand loyalty going with evga since they honored my gtx 580 warranty this year. still on the 660ti they replaced it with. Really glad this shit came out before I upgraded to a 1070.

So now that I'm jumping ship, which company has the best warranty on their cards?

>>57309705
PNY

kek it's a shill fields day

evga btfo, I bet they didn't expect those temps and already had their gaymur design before specs

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>>57308110
yup, here is what the asus 1080 looks like. how did evga overlook this? even if the vrm doesn't make contact with the cooler, how did they not even put any thermal paste on those things to begin with.

>>57309626
As the owner of a Phenom II that has seen 70C under 1.5V, you're full of shit.

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>>57303418

>>57303409
>that thermal paste
what the fuck? that looks like some kind of child's art project on the right. don't they have machines to apply this shit these days? that makes me worry about what's inside my 1080.

>>57310400
That's applied by machines.

>>57310400
meant thermal pads

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2-VaOPOvgI

I got a 1070 FTW at the end of August, have it overclocked and haven't experienced any problems so far, should I be worried?

>>57310610
Yes.

>>57302878
>buying Nvidia

lmao

Gigabyte's never failed me

>>57303515
Wot? They paid to get the best binned chips? I feel not so good about going with sapphire now

>>57308062
My evga 750ti won't show in my bios or device manager ever since i took it out the case for transport. It does ventilate though but it's MIA. Spoken to a few people including mobo manufacturer and nvidia and a repairman none had a clue. Bought it last year, can i expect a replacement or something from them ?

>>57310609
holy shit

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>>57302878
>bought an EVGA 1080 SC after august
>no issues yet

how do I know if something's wrong? what's the failure rate exactly? I haven't fucked with the clock settings at all, if that means anything.

>>57310609
what the hell. its not like he was stressing the card or anything.

>>57310868
>Prior to this discovery, EVGA GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 owners had been consistently complaining about component failure, instability issues and black screens. All of which have now been linked to the same VRM overheating issue.

even before people found out about the vrm heat issues, a lot of people were complaining about black screens and things like that. seems like its a ticking time bomb and i'd at least request those free thermal pads.

>>57309546
Not him but,

x264 load:

load average: 14.25, 10.69, 5.61
it8721-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
+12V:        +11.65 V  
+5V:          +4.82 V  
Vcore:        +1.27 V  
+3.3V:        +3.31 V  
VDDA:         +2.51 V  
in6:          +2.40 V  
3VSB:         +1.54 V  
Vbat:         +3.31 V
CPU Fan:     1231 RPM  
CPU Fan opt: 1275 RPM  
CPU Temp:     +45.0 C  
M/B Temp:     +27.0 C  

Are there any reports of MSI cards blowing up for Europeans or Americans? So far all the stories seem to be comming from Asia.

>>57310956
Well I haven't had anything like that happen in the month I've used it.

Hopefully my retardation doesn't fuck me over.

>>57307989
>PNY are the patrician choice of Nvidia AIB. They produce Quadros and reference coolers for Nvidia, meaning their build quality is second to none.

hahahahaha wat am i reading pny are a chinkshit noname brand like all the others

>>57310609
Holy fucking shit. It literally burst into flames.

>>57310729
Where did you buy it?
If you bought it from a retailer (Amazon, newegg etc) register it. Otherwise fill a guest rma on the site.

So it's a good thing that I went with Palit 1080

>>57304246
>tfw Zotac Amp! Extreme GTX 1070.

Doesn't even break 65C maxing anything

>>57311288
Yes.
Palit / Gainward make by far the best Nvidia GPUs.

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once again here is what the gainward 1070 cooler looks like.

evga fucked up badly.

>>57311703
wasnt evga suposed to be the premium brand? i was thinking about buy from them next time il upgrade, but i guess il stick to to gigabyte or something

Ghetto mod something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNEc_QA6wi0

>>57311197
1070 FTW here.
Me neither. Played Gears 4, Witcher 3, Mirror's Edge, BF4, Doom, etc and no issues at all.
Although I have some cases of awful video/audio stuttering on Forza Horizon 3. I do think it's a mem leak issue tho.

>>57302878
It's not just EVGA

don't forget to change your Thermal MaxiPads Nvidia owners.

>>57302878
>buying novideo at all

i have gtx760 and i don't plan to change it until it gets broken. Or if we get some ridiculous 16k videos

>>57302878
ive had to RMA every single EVGA card I've owned. sticking with gigabyte from now on

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>>57310609
>EVGA

>>57309683
>2000 series costing less than 1000
lol

>>57311740
>wasnt evga suposed to be the premium brand

they were known for good customer service and warranty and their step up program. their cards were decent but not much better than the other brands. it seems like they fucked up with this generation though.

>>57312325
The 2070 will be $600 and the 2080 will be $1000

>>57305021
Thank fuck Sapphire went with Hynix on the Vapor-X.

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I went to leddit and found this.

TL;DR: you can't replicate furmark conditions while playing a game. So there's virtually no issue with normal use, even when you have a OCed card.

This of course is EVGAs statement.

>>57309523
it was meant to be ironic
i want to draw more memes of Amada being bullied desu

Zotac

>>57312735

Furmark is a fucking power virus - for years both AMD and Nvidia have been writing hacks into their drivers (that furmark has been trying to get around) to purposefully throttle hard and early in furmark because it really can damage cards.

>>57312875
Yep. I've fucked up a R9 280 with furmark. Never again.

Is the 1080 sea hawk ek x safe since it uses an ek block?

>>57312735
A regular piece of software like that still shouldn't be able to cause physical damage to a computer.

>>57312956

If i'm not mistake the block only covers the die itself - not the other components such as memory and vrm (hence the fan on the card).

>>57312735
Plus, those issues regarding black screens, etc on 1070/1080s were isolated and the cards were replaced by EVGA.
I don't this VRM "issue" is connected to that. More like faulty VRAM modules.

>>57312985
Any burn-in software can cause damage to hardware. You even have to check the box in furmark.

It happened to be the VRM on this case, but furmark is well known to burn out VRAM modules with ease if you don't really know what you're doing and feeding them too much voltage.

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>tfw first batch palit 1070 and not a single problem since launch

>>57313061
*don't think

>>57312875
>>57313061

It's not just happening with furmark though. Furmark is showing higher than normal temps which you can't replicate with a game, but those pictures of evga boards with burnt memory modules were from people doing normal gaming.

and its not like they only tested evga cards with furmark, they also tested other cards and none of the other card's vrm reached the insanely high temps like the evga ones.

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>>57313129
Yes it is. Normal gaming won't heat up the VRMs beyond spec.

>rated 125º max

This is literally a non-issue.

>>57310650
I've got the xfx gtr black and I've ben able to OC it to 1430/2200 on air without adjusting voltage.

does furmark do anything tricky? like have they reverse-engineered nvidia & amd's drivers to make their software override fan control and throttling?

if you tell the card to draw triangles & use its shader units and it shits the bed then it sounds like the card is defect

>>57313249
Not really. Silicon isn't perfect nor are transistors, etc.
Plus the cards are made to spec, i.e.: to everyday use and gaming. Not to be tortured with synthetic burn-in tests.
That's exactly why hardware is basically trash after an extreme overclock, per example.

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>>57313318

>That's exactly why hardware is basically trash after an extreme overclock, per example.

To be fair as long as the silicon is kept cool even extreme overclocking (lets say extreme without going into active cooling territory) does mean shit.

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Awesome. Here I was considering selling my 980TI for a 1080. Thankfully I decided to keep holding onto it.

>>57313360
Even though you keep it cool, the transistors degrade much faster if you're keeping them working at bigger speeds.


>>57313386
There's literally nothing wrong with it. Unless you plan on cooking the card on furmark.
Once again this has been blown out of proportion by leddit and a few monkey see monkey do faggots.

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>>57313431
Eh it was kind of the nail in the coffin for me really. Kind of the excuse I was looking for to NOT upgrade. That and my current card does everything I need it to at 1440p. and have you seen the abomination that is the 1080 Classified? Look at this garbage. What the fuck EVGA?

>>57313480
But then again, why would you upgrade? The 980Ti runs every game fine.

>>57313431

>Even though you keep it cool, the transistors degrade much faster if you're keeping them working at bigger speeds.

It would be interesting to see any hard evidence about how overclocking affects the longevity of a card. Especially since GCN (not sure about polaris specifically I must admit) uses one clockspeed to rule them all - whe nyou overclock the gpu everything runs at xyz mhz. Nvidia use different clock domains for parts of the chip (I think from kepler onwards) so overclocking such a card is only overclocking the shaders and nothing else.

Naturally vram is a seperate entity (though HBM does shake it up).

>>57313535
I get the upgrade itch sometimes. Just for an excuse to take apart my PC really. Kind of like why I'm considering either a 1.2TB Intel PCIE ssd or a 2TB Samsung 850 EVO. I already have several SSDs and am not out of room. Just want to fuck with the PC.

Maybe I'll buy a thinkpad or something and upgrade everything from ground up including 1080p IPS monitor swap. Idk. My hands just don't like being idle all the time and games only go so far.

>>57313686
>I get the upgrade itch sometimes. Just for an excuse to take apart my PC really.
I know this feel.

>>57304933
>bothering mentioning PNY

But yeah I hear good shit about Palit, didn't know their cards were still for sale though.

>>57302878
Inno3d. pretty solid

>>57313480
>1080 Classified
Funny, that one is the only EVGA card that is unaffected by the problems.

>>57313670
>It would be interesting to see any hard evidence about how overclocking affects the longevity of a card.
It's marginal, just like on a CPU. That is if the overclock is moderate.
If you run a really high voltage like >1.5v even with an open loop keeping it cool your cpu will age significantly faster. It's not something you'll notice from day to night but the switch speeds will decrease as the transistors age.
I'm not really that knowledgeable on GPU architecture but the transistor ageing principles do stay the same.
Not even mentioning you don't have a way of monitoring VRAM temps, and that is 99% the cause of card failures.
That's how I killed a R9 280. I'll never ever run furmark again.

>>57313686
Eh, I get it. I don't even have a SSD on my PC since I only use it for gayming. I do everything else on a rmbp that has served me well.
But I really have to buy one, those retarded load times get on my nerves. It's just that I can't be bothered to do a fresh install.

>>57313794

>If you run a really high voltage like >1.5v

If you are running that sort of voltage you clearly know you are going to kill your card eventually as iirc no software actually allows any recentish gpu to run at 1.5v (or higher) without dicking with config files or bios modding.

I mean sapphire's Trixx software is a dangerous piece of kit as it allows for hawaii to go to +200mv (basically 1.4v) out of the box. Afterburner and most other OC software only allow +100mv explicitly because a poorly cooled card can be killed with that sort of voltage.

>ITT some technology has problems sometimes and sometimes the same technology has no problems

WOW

>>57313844
Yeah, I was talking about CPUs, tho.

But honestly, I wouldn't bother fucking with voltages on gpus. Gains are really really marginal and the risks are way too high.

I ran that r9 280 at 1.3v with an aggressive fan profile but I was so dumb at the time I didn't even thought about the VRAMs.
The card would still be fine if I hadn't stress tested it on furmark.

>>57313913

> Gains are really really marginal

Nvidia please go and stay go.

>>57303012
>>57303370
PROTIP: you're a dipshit. Nvidia and AMD don't design reference coolers, EVGA and Sapphire do. Also, reference designs are blower coolers, which are useful for cases with limited airflow but multi-fan coolers are quieter and perform as well or better in cases with decent airflow.

>>57314142
Actually, having OCed on both AMD and Nvidia, Nvidia usually responds much better to voltage bumps and allows an higher clock per mV.

>>57310609
I fucking love Mr. Torgue

>>57314214

Right, Nvidia became a cooler design company selling backplates, reserving exclusive distribution of the higher end iterations

That said, the titan x style blower is fine

>>57302878
Stop it, you are making my anti-EVGA cock hard

>>57314375
>I'm a fanboy and I'm not ashamed of it!

>>57313143
After how much time of gaming?

>captcha: volta mejor

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>>57314804
No idea, the article doesn't mention it. But even on a torture loop it won't get near the max 125º spec.


btw, that whole black screen didn't affect the 1070 FTW. According to EVGA, it only affected early 1080 FTWs.

>https://www.reddit.com/r/TEAMEVGA/comments/56w7ty/has_the_black_screen_issue_detailed_over_at_the/d91svrv/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/TEAMEVGA/comments/56w7ty/has_the_black_screen_issue_detailed_over_at_the/d91j4oe/

Only some 1080 FTWs manufactured before August 31st were affected by this issue, as it seems.

>>57313143
it is an issue because people were reporting all types of weird shit like black screens, artifacts, etc, just while doing normal gaming. now we know for sure these people were having issues because of the vrm overheating.

>>57315170
Read this >>57315162

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>tfw was gonna buy EVGA
>Bought Zotac instead because it was 10$ cheaper
>This shit happens

Just stumbled upon this on leddit.

"I want to clear up any confusion or concerns about the misconception about the thermal pads and the vram chips. Basically, there is no issue with overheating and the benchmark that was used to test the temperature of the video card far exceeds what a regular game can run. Nevertheless, we are currently working with Toms Hardware (Germany) to retest the video cards for solid conclusion, however, we are also offering free thermal pads with free shipping to assist our customers. Please do allow for further news from EVGA in regards to this concern. More information at >> http://eu.evga.com/thermalmod/
Furthermore, the article from wccftech did not run any tests for our video cards, they only reported on the issue from the tests that Toms Hardware did and we are working with them to further test our video cards. Wccftech also references gamernexus on this issue and they also have not run any tests on our video card and the picture posted on their review is from a customer who had a bad card.
We can start an RMA if you rather not install the thermal pads yourself, either way we'll be here to assist you. Thank you.

Regards, EVGA"

>>57315162
Are you so sure? How about SLI? The top card in SLI air-cooled systems has a much, much harder time than in single-GPU systems, especially in aftermarket designs which pump hot air back into the case and not out the back. It'll mostly suck in already hot air from the card below it, even with fans blowing cool air from outside the case it's very hard to overcome the heat from the other card which is right next to it.

How about if people OC these cards? How about if they OC them in SLI? It's way too fucking hot for the VRMs to hit 106-107C when the card is in an almost ideal thermal environment and running at stock clocks. I'm REALLY fucking glad I wasn't able to find EVGA 1080s when I bought mine, this is extremely shitty. Still, EVGA seems to be handling the situation admirably.

>>57315350
>Are you so sure?
I don't know man. I'm just reporting whatever I find.
What you're asking is valid though, but I don't think it'll make that large of an impact regarding VRM temps.


Some other stuff I found on EVGA forums

>Fact: The thermal pads are to lower the temperatures of the VRMs on the card
>Fact: The cooling solution EVGA is using in the FTW-series is deemed appropriate even after several tests by the company
>Fact: There is just one single review with measuring methods that reports values that are irritating. In this review, the card did not give out. The measuring methods have been critizised to be not accurate by both EVGA and individuals
>Fact: As part of this review a test was used that puts the card under stress not specified for (Furmark)
>Fact: Every other report about this is using the data from said review to discuss this possible design flaw
>Fact: There is not a single report publicly available that can clearly prove a failure of the VRM because of overheat
>Fact: EVGA stated themselves that there is no overheat issue affecting cards that have been RMA that can be linked to the missing thermal pads
>Fact: There has been a bad batch of cards with faulty VRMs. These are prone to failure even under light stress.
Speculation: As it is reported to be around 3-4% we are looking at a batch size of possibly several hundred cards.
>Fact: It is unknown to the public if the blackscreen & 100% fan issue and the combustion issue both stems from these faults.
Speculation: The bs + 100% issue and the combustion is caused by cards with the faulty VRMs. Either because the card is detecting the error and tries to prevent it or the faulty VRMs simply combust.

If what EVGA is oficially stating is true, you won't need thermal pads ever, since the VRMs never reach a temperature beyond what is specced.
The thermal pads are solely for people who want lower temperatures/are going to stress test them.

>>57302878
Didn't they fix this with the newer shipments of these cards?

>>57315464
>EVGA stating Tom's Hardware test was flawed

http://forums.evga.com/Is-the-EVGA-1070-SC-effected-by-the-VRM-overheating-issue-m2571376.aspx#2571438

>tfw 780 in sli with msi tf4 coolers
How did I do?

>>57315505
>Guru3D tested 1070's with the VRM's using 3DMark Firestrike, using thermal imaging equipment. The EVGA 1070 SC Gaming hit 96℃ where the VRM's are located, that's between 27℃ to 39℃ hotter than three of it's competitor brand cards.

>See below for results.
>VRM = 64℃ - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 G1 GAMING >> http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_1070_g1_gaming_review,10.html

>VRM = 57℃ - ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 STRIX Gaming >> http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_1070_strix_gaming_review,10.html

>VRM = 69℃ - MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming Z >> http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_z_review,9.html

>VRM = 96℃ - EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC Gaming >> http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_1070_sc_superclocked_gaming_review,10.html


So basically, EVGA VRMs do run hotter, but nowhere near breaking point.

>>57315511
Fine. Probably got a bit screwed on value as 290s slaughter 780s these days, but you did fine.

>>57315534
Even so, since EVGA's VRMs run so much hotter, their lifespans are consequently much shorter vs the VRMs on the Gigabyte or Asus cards. I dont remember the exact formula, but I think its something like every 10C temperature increase the lifespan of a component is cut in half.

If i got that correct, it means that the VRMs on the EVGA cards can have an average life expectancy of less than 10% that of the VRMs used on the asus card, simply because the latter are cooled far better, which in turn translates to a far higher chance of undergoing thermal runaway and burning out.

>>57315464
>If what EVGA is oficially stating is true, you won't need thermal pads ever, since the VRMs never reach a temperature beyond what is specced

So then why does every other partner board not only come with thermal pads, but many of them have designed their coolers to have direct contact with the thermal pads.

evga is full of shit, just because the vrm temps doesn't actually hit the temp limit threshold doesn't mean its not a big deal. you always want consistently lower temps on your pc parts no matter what.

so what is the point of buying evga now when MSI, Asus, and gigabyte also have brand recognition, cost the same, and gives similar performance without the high vrm temps?

>>57315563
I totally agree with you
Thus I in the future need to keep my eye on amd cards

>>57315464
>but I don't think it'll make that large of an impact regarding VRM temps.
I don't have the equipment to measure VRM temps (and I don't have EVGA 1080s anyway), but I can tell you what happens to GPU temps on the top card. Under 100% game load (i.e. GPU-bound game with good SLI support, no FPS cap) the top card hits 75-80C with 85% fan speed, which is the maximum I've set since above that the fans get whiny and annoying. The bottom card sits at like 65-70C with 40-50% fan speed. There are also case fans blowing straight on the top card which automatically ramp up much higher than for the bottom one.

That is a very significant increase in cooling required for the top card and it still gets much hotter. I can only speculate that VRMs which receive less cooling and run hotter than the GPU anyway wouldn't be quite as unaffected by the vast increase in heat around the top card in a multi-GPU system.

Also, nobody seems to really take into account that the measured surface temperature of a device is lower than the temperature of the actual device inside. Furthermore in the case of the EVGA 1080FTW they aren't even measuring the temperature of the transistor's surface, they seem to be measuring the temperature on the back of the board, so the difference between that and the actual temperature is probably going to be even greater. Hitting 107C in this situations is pretty bad, the actual transistor is for sure hotter than that. They're probably right and it's not going out of spec, but they're cutting it real close and it's a shitty design decision to do this to say the least.

>>57315662
I suppose so, but even then those are synthetic results. So yeah...Take that for what it's worth.

>>57315674
EVGA probably never saw the necessity of using thermal pads because as they say, the VRMs never go beyond what they are specced on normal use.

>you always want consistently lower temps on your pc parts no matter what.
That's their whole reasoning for providing thermal pads for whoever wants them.


>so what is the point of buying evga now when MSI, Asus, and gigabyte also have brand recognition, cost the same, and gives similar performance without the high vrm temps?
Well, I've always had terrible experiences with Asus. MSI is great, but never had any graphics card of their brand nor ever needed to RMA anything, so I have no idea how well they work if needed.
Gigabyte support is shit, at least in Europe, from my experience.
So yeah, I bought EVGA because they have an excellent support and RMA policy and their stuff is usually good quality.
I'm sure many people followed the same train of thought.

I mean, I requested the thermal pads yesterday but I'm not even sure if I should gut it and install them, especially now since EVGA is telling us there's nothing to be worried about even without those.

>>57315764
Yes, but comparing GPU temps to VRM temps is useless. VRMs will always be further apart. with a lot of heatsink between each other. I don't really think there'll be a big discrepancy between cards regarding VRM temps.
Especially if you have a good card oriented airflow in your case.
But we're just speculating here, we'd need some hard proof to see what's what.

>>57315856
>Yes, but comparing GPU temps to VRM temps is useless
I wasn't comparing them as much as I was trying to illustrate the increase in thermal stress on the top cards for a top 1080 in SLI. I've had 290X CF before, Sapphire Tri-X cards and those actually come with VRM temp sensors. Those aren't NVIDIA and aren't 1080s obviously, but the VRM temp on the top card was 20-30C higher than the bottom one (70-80C vs. 95-105C). I even e-mailed Sapphire support to ask about that temp because I was worried, I was told it was fine. Turns out they were right since the cards worked just fine until I sold them to upgrade a few months ago, but the point is that the temperature increase was quite high and that's on a card that didn't hit >107C VRM temps in single-GPU.

I'm glad I don't have EVGA cards in SLI, if anyone does I'd heavily suggest running them at stock with no power target increase and getting those extra thermal pads ASAP before you fuck with any sort of OC.

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>>57315856
>regarding the so-called flawed testing

Well, it makes sense, I guess.

>>57315942
The less-accurate methodology isn't really that much of an issue if you aren't looking at absolute readings. The point is that EVGA VRMs are getting much hotter than some of the competition and possibly close to the limits of the components. Their design is shitty anyway, even if they're not exceeding the VRM spec.

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>>57315933
Well, yeah... But it would be quite absurd if EVGA didn't actually thought of that scenario.

Plus we're all speculating on temperatures that according to EVGA weren't measured accurately.


>if anyone does I'd heavily suggest running them at stock with no power target increase and getting those extra thermal pads ASAP before you fuck with any sort of OC.
But again, you'd expect EVGA to actually QC them running stress tests on many types of scenarios, including OCd chips/vrams.
So that should be accounted for.

Check pic related. It's anecdotal but it counts for something.


>>57315987
You're right. But even then, I seriously doubt it'll make much of a difference as a whole. Other components would fail before the VRMs on normal use.
But sure, it's not an excuse to cut corners.

One thing that really is interesting is that there's literally nobody complaining about a blown card/overheating VRM. There's only reports about faulty 1080 FTW VRMs.
This "blowing VRM" shit show started with Tom's Hardware and then everyone just panicked.

>>57315856
>EVGA probably never saw the necessity of using thermal pads because as they say, the VRMs never go beyond what they are specced on normal use

So then why did all the other AIB partners add thermal pads? They fucked up but they can't afford to do mass recalls or admit their cards have a design flaw. I can guarantee you 100% that their next line of cards will have thermal pads.

Stop defending them, they fucked up with the 10 series cards and they probably wont make that mistake again. But it's just not worth the risk to get a card from evga rigth now.

>>57316135
>One thing that really is interesting is that there's literally nobody complaining about a blown card/overheating VRM
I think the legitimate concern for owners here isn't that their VRMs would just pop immediately, but rather what sort of life expectancy their card has, especially in SLI or when OCing. All these cards are still essentially brand new, they barely came out a few months ago.

>>57316135
>One thing that really is interesting is that there's literally nobody complaining about a blown card/overheating VRM

There were a lot of complaints about people getting black screens and artifacts. There was no way they could have known the vrm was causing these because there are no sensors. It was only until the reports from Tom's Hardware and other sites came out that people figured out it was the overheating VRMs that were causing those issues.

>>57303109
for fucks sake get out

>>57302878
Nvidia cards : PNY
AMD cards : Sapphire

>>57303309
My gigabyte gtx 1080 has zero sag at all.

>>57316145
>So then why did all the other AIB partners add thermal pads?
Who knows. One possible reason is that many other partners use their coolers on various AMD/Nvidia cards, so they just stuck with that.
But that excludes Palit and Gainward. I have no idea.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending them. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of the issue. And sensationalism definitely isn't the way to do it.
And yes, the next batch of 10 series cards are coming with thermal pads.


>>57316175
Those issues were related to faulty (read: not caused by thermal runaway, but by faulty hardware) VRMs on early 1080 FTWs, as I've posted before.
The 1070 FTWs aren't affected by that.

>https://www.reddit.com/r/TEAMEVGA/comments/56w7ty/has_the_black_screen_issue_detailed_over_at_the/d91svrv/

So all this shit went like
>faulty VRMs on early 1080 FTWs caused black screens, etc
>someone thought he should check the temps on the 1080 FTW VRMs
>it's hot
>it's probably because of this the VRMs failed
>he then decided he should check the 1070 FTW VRMs
>they're hot too, yet never had issues

Do you see my point? Those VRM issues were never related to the temps. Those were inherently faulty VRMs, which were corrected after August 31st on the 1080s.

>>57305412
I don't see amd with a gtx 1080 equivalent

>>57304190
>MSI
>chink shit tier components
B-but they are the most hardcore military grade, anon.

>>57311216
>pny are a chinkshit noname brand

PNY is an American company based in New Jersey, you dumbass.

>>57303109
This is my favorite meme

>>57314274
>Actually, having OCed on both AMD and Nvidia, Nvidia usually responds much better to voltage bumps

This hasn't been the case since Kepler. Neither Maxwell nor Pascal benefit from voltage all that much. My 980 Ti does 1533MHz at stock voltage and adding more doesn't get me anything except extra heat.

>>57310609
Give it back Jamal.

does this affect the evga 1060?

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>>57316528
Nah, you're good, bro. :^)

>>57309392
coil whine isn't anything particular of any manufacturer. they all have coil whine. from nvidia to amd. from asus to xfx.

you can't really blame that on xfx. nor can you amd. i had two 980 ti xtreme's from gigabyte and one had coil whine and the other did not.

if you get a card with coil whine just replace it.

>Zotac VRMs actually run hotter than EVGA's
>tomshardware.de

>Zotac GTX 1080 AMP Xtreme VRM 106.9c
>EVGA GTX 1080 FTW VRM 106.8c
>Gigabyte GTX 1080 G1 has hot spot 97.8c / VRM 82.9c
>MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X has hot spot 96.7c / VRM 98.2c
>Gigabyte GTX 1080 Xtreme Gaming VRM 83.2c
>Palit GTX 1080 Game Rock hot spot 82.6c / VRM 76.9
>Galax GeForce GTX 1080 HoF VRM 75c

And yet Zotac hasn't said anything.

>>57316727
Get back to us when Zotac cards start literally exploding, my dear shill.

>>57316727
That Gigabyte hotspot is just some resistor though, it shouldn't be that much of an issue, as opposed to the main power delivery transistors running hot as fuck.

>>57316727
how do you get palit cards here in the states?

>RX 480s that can burn your motherboard
>1080s and 1070s that can explode
What the fuck is going on this generation?

>>57316872
Import I suppose. Palit pulled out of the US market in 2009 to concentrate on Europe and Asia.

>>57316900
The discrete GPU market is ever-shrinking and so the companies who rely on it are being squeezed harder, thus they need to cut every corner possible to reduce manufacturing costs.

>>57317006
what? its actually been growing while PC sales (prebuilt dell crap) are down overall.

>>57316559
Which article is that from?

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>>57317090
In your dreams maybe.

>>57317119
http://www.tomshardware.de/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal-gp106-grafikkarten-roundup,testberichte-242152-2.html#3

What's wrong with Asus?

Literally find one flaw.

>>57317170
Overpriced garbage aimed at retards from /v/. Nothing about their cards is the best on the market (or even close to it), yet they're the most expensive cards around. Their customer support and RMA service are also fucking atrocious. There's literally no reason to buy an Asus card, because there's always a better choice.

>>57303585
Oh, my bad.

>>57305654
>Flash TDP limits on lowly Zotac GTX 970
>144% and raise voltage
>Power translates 1:1 into performance
>Performs almost on par with a 1070

>>57317473
There's no 970 on the planet that gets anywhere near a 1070. Feel free to post your Valley/Heaven/Firestrike scores and prove me wrong. :^)

>>57304305
I was gonna say, looks like my sexy fury.
>>57305511
>>57305677
>>57308007
Based sapphire. I actually got my fury because the 480's were out of stock, no regrets except the coil whine when the card tries to push 200/300fps in older games lol

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I'm gonna buy an XFX 470 now

>>57317698
Hey bby ima make u cum on dis dick
.t OwO

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>>57302878
>have EK MSI 1080
NO direct Vrm cooling
just a block of copper without contact with the water.
backplate has no thermal pads.
how fucked am I?
it maxes out at 37C, but still

>>57302878
>which company are you going with now
Sapphire.

>>57309439
That looks like the motherboard shit itself.

Did those cards draw over the 75W allowed by the PCI-e standard?

>>57303496
>not even a month old

Then return it! Almost every place will accept returns less than a month in.

>>57318184
That's Fermi being power hungry as fuck. That was the generation before Nvidia went to a software scheduler.

>>57318217
interesting to see that they went a step backwards by moving it out of hardware.

Do you think it was only for cost reasons?

I have always went with either Asus or gigabyte not worth losing half my computer to save 20 bucks on a GPU I never buy from MSI as a rule

>>57318228
It was largely for reasons of power efficiency, die space, and temperature, all of which kind of play into each other. Basically, without a hardware scheduler they can include more pixel/texel units, ROPs, and so on, and then they can put a lot of time and effort into driver optimization and pushing their game dev tools on developers and still match AMD's performance, even though AMD's hardware is clearly the winner in raw power.

>>57318228
it's kinda like the GTR vs Corvette argument.
the GTR is more efficient and can get away with less overall power while still being faster.

but when dx12( dragstrip) comes in, it favors raw power every time.

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>>57318490
stay BTFO

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>>57318509
that /o/ cancer
don't remind me why i never go there anymore.
also

>>57318547
>fake lap times

Anyway, you should come back sometime. Corvette vs GTR has died down slightly, now it's all about Ecoboostposting, and Alphonse doesn't seem to have the same level of dedication he once had.

At least we're not getting flooded every other night with gay furry porn anymore.

>>57318577
>fake lap times
you mean real lap times.

anyways, /o/ is shit

>>57318661
>you mean real lap times.
I was Alphonseposting, chill.

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>>57302878
>>57310609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkyhvCdJ_vM

>>57316818
dude, really you don't need to call shills to every single person that post something that makes you uneasy. you are taking info posted by TomsHardware.de as facts and then you are disregarding info provided by the same guys about the VRMs temps of other brands.
Problem with the EVGA cards so far seem to be they used VRMs that have a higher failure rate than others with or without higher temps. People blew up cards without stressing the shit oput of the cards. Still the VRMs running that hot doesn't help and honestly I wouldn't risk it and would go for the one running the lowest temps.

I ordered one of these literally a day before this became confirmed and widespread. Should I return it and have them apply a thermal pad to it or return it and get a refund?

>>57319610
i'd get a refund if thats possible. why risk it when you can get another brand which is better?

>>57320240
which brand then?

>>57320921
Gigabyte or Zotac.