>tfw I'm an audiophile with golden ear but the other

>>57193502
God bless idiots with cash. Life would be hard without them.

I know the feel op
I constantly get weird looks for adjusting people's are audio settings
Literally anything but flat is the most cringeworthy eq like holy fuck do people think no mids and blown out bass sounds good

>>57193717
clearly not a grammerfile

>>57193717
You get weird looks because that's a weird thing to do.

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>>57193717
are you me?
>sit in car from faggot
>music starts playing
>it sounds like shit
>check radio
>treble +10
>base +10
mfw

tell people to disable their fucking equalizer when they connect their shit on my stereo

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>>57193717
>>57193902

I can't live with multiband compressor/limiter, it's like a drug.

>>57194044
>I can't live with
without*

>>57193902
>>57193717
this
fuck

>>57193902
>getting in a car with a faggot

You were heading back to his place for some Grindr action, right?

>>57193717
This isn't even autistic. I have no idea how a certain breed of normies have such awful EQ preferences. Some of my friends do fine while others listen to *literally* nothing but sub-bass; you can't hear a single god damn thing else.

>>57194044
why do you want to reduce the dynamic range of your music?

>>57194234
Because it does exactly the opposite of what you say: boost the bass when the bass is low, boost when the med is low, boost the tremble when the tremble, it increase the dynamic range after the makeup. The sound is always loud like some radio station

>>57194302
>The sound is always loud like some radio station
that is called reducing the dynamic range you fucking retard

>>57194317

>>57194302
doesn't know what he's talking about

>>57194302
>tremble

kek

>>57194317
>>57194341
>reducing the dynamic
The compressor will work only when the sound is low, the dynamic rage is the same

>>57194374
>the dynamic rage is the same
no

"audiophiles" have a mental illness

>>57194374
a compressor compresses the dynamic range, he's completely right, that's the nature of it
but that makes it a way of shaping your sound as an artistic choice when creating music, not only a misused tool to bump loads of loudness to be able to 'compete'

if you're using a compressor on your playback system to change already mastered music then you're a massive faggot and you should kill yourself, though

What kind of songs do these guys listen to?

>>57194929
k-pop

>>57195088

Nightcore

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>>57193502
>buying good speakers is placebo
These are the same people who think logitech speakers are good

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>>57194929
AOTY

Honest question: Is there such a thing as an audiophile female?
No hate at all, I have just never met a woman that honestly have a fuck about audio quality.

>>57193717
Depending on the speakers/vehicle turning the mids up can improve how music sounds I think. I usually go with something like 1/3-4/0 or 0/3-4/1 depending on what kind of music Im listening to

>>57193502
>bass reflex tubes
>audiophile

>>57195247
im not audiofag but i heard these weird woofers and they sound damn fucking good

This might be a stupid question, but is there any way I can filter out the damaging high-frequency components from music and leave just the mellow DC component?

>>57195898
>damaging hf components
Kek

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>>57193502
Can someone say, if i wrap my headphone cable into a inductor ring (ferrite) does it improve the audio quality?

>>57193717
That called autism.

how much do those speakers cost?

>>57195915
It works better if you place it in your rectum while listening to reduce electrical interference within your body.

>>57195962
gonna try that since i got a spare...

>>57195915
I'm no expert.
But I think that would reduce the sound signal.

>>57193502
Why is he wearing overalls?

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>>57195811
I worked with a handful
there's a good amount of females in the classical music production field
even though that's not really your usual 'audiophile', but more of a skeptical and no-bullshit oriented engineer

>>57196158
Alright that's good to hear, I was more concerned about, as you said, your typical home hifi enthusiast, though. With bonus points for the kind that is prepared spend upward of 10000 bucks on a system.

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Rate

Is Audyssey a good thing?

I have a set of good speakers and a sub, and haven't done any measuring/audyssey stuff yet. I do want to upgrade my AVR for a number of reasons (Entry-level Sony with a couple of quirks), but one of them could be proper room calibration. I'm not sure I want to pay up for it, though.

Reading through what it aims to do, much of it sound pretty reasonable, but there's this huge voodo echo chamber and snake oil industry going that makes it very hard to make an educated decision

>>57196910
dsp correction isn't magic and you should know the limitations and what to expect of it
especially in a particularly shitty room a dsp correction can make things worse if you f.e. need a wide listening spot across a sofa or whatever for multiple persons listening, the more heavy-handed the corrections are, the shittier they sound out of the small sweet spot, which gets even smaller the more problems the room has
audyssey is pretty good because it's straight forward and intelligent enough to not cause you any problems. it's really good for matching different speakers in a surround set, compensating delays and colorations caused by shitty placement and optimizing the lfe and so on

>>57193717
Whats even worse are those types "I don't like bass" and turn the treble up all the way

>>57196990
Thank you! So you'd say it's worth it?

I have matching rears, but I'm completely ignorant towards the potential problems in my room acoustics.I sthere anything I should get out of the way first?

I tried to place my speakers as far away from the walls as my room and wife allow, but in practice, it's still only ~20cm.

I guess this is all very difficult to tell with no real information about my room and setup, but I just thought you might have some general advice to share

>>57196801
>V-Shapped
Okay for portable music but not for home listening.

>>57193502
hey, want to buy a $5000 power cable? It'll make all your equipment sound so much clearer.

>>57197208
>sharing an attitude with some rich people means you'll spend the same as they do on the strongest link in the chain, as opposed to the same PROPORTION of your budget on the strongest link in the chain
This has to be bait

>>57197234
I can almost promise that I won't make the $5000 supercable by just putting a regular power cable inside a garden hose.

>>57197140
the main 3 problems of a typical room are
>first reflections:
http://www.acoustic.ua/forms/calculator4.en.html
these are early enough to not be recognized as real reflections by the ear and therefore color your signal directly by comb filtering. getting rid of most of these points at the walls by absorbing with bookshelves, carpets and curtains helps a lot
>room modes
can't do much about these in most living room situations, make sure you avoid boudary effects by keeping the speakers away from walls and especially corners as you already do
>reverberation time and flutter echoes
big, empty rooms sound trashy because of the bare walls and the lack of absorbing materials inside the room
f.e. getting a bigger, heavier couch really helps reduce rt60, and if you clap your hands at the listening spot and hear that typical fluttering ringing then you have some uncovered parallel wall surfaces that echo the impulse back and forth, cover that shit up to diffuse that noise
that's as general as it gets, usually the first and second point is where you're mostly limited in terms of intrusiveness and that's where dsp correction comes in. in a limited sweet spot you can improve the linearity by quite a big deal by correcting for the reflections and room modes in that very spot and a bit surrounding it, depending on how heavy handed the corrections are
tl;dr
get audyssey or a similar system, it's good, especially when integrated directly in the receiver

>tfw the cosmic background radiation is preventing you from enjoying music

>>57197287
You're just memeing now but overlapping with the group known as retards is not exclusive to audiophiles.

Just waiting for audiophile reaction to the removal of the earphone jack

Do they need a digital to analog converter? Which specific chip from which ancient device do they need?

>tfw tinnitus
>tfw no point in upgrading sound hardware

>>57193902
>doesn't enjoy the sound of scooped mids

It is a compulsion. The worse thing you can do is embrace it.

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>>57193502
>Mfw I'm a chiptune audiofile.

>>57197310
Thank you very much for putting this together. I recall some of it from my own reading, but it's good to hear it in a direct message from someone who seems to know his stuff. That calculator app looks nice. Maybe something easy pops up when I have the time to feed it with my living room params. Maybe I can convince my wife to let me install some absorbing stuff here and there. (Doubt it, though. Our tastes really differ when it comes to room decoration. I'm "modern, gray, soft indirect LED lighting", she's "baroque, warm, with a chandelier somewhere")

Guess I will get a beefy AVR with Audyssey then. Thank you very much again.

>>57193502
i promise you, you do not have a golden ear.

source: professional word leading audio engineers making bank never say this and they hear better than you, i promise!

>>57194374
Dynamic range is difference between most quiet and most loud sound in other words. Compressor actually make sound more flatten in terms of volume difference. Anything, that you listen has been already compressed and mastered, no need to spoil sound more that it has been before. Probably you are a troll, but if not - Please, stop doing this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hRE2RKUV2E

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>>57194929
Lolicore

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>>57197340

Got you covered.

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>>57200387

>>57194929

Drum and Bass/Jungle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUdkbscum5A

>>57201055
>Not using cable risers

Just a reminder that you can't tell the difference between a well compressed 192 and 320, let alone 320 and FLAC

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>>57201384

Do audiophiles like these go to cinema? Can they even enjoy it?

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>>57193502
my $2.500 AMP is better than your phone integrated one
WOOO

>>57201422
Are you mad? Audiophiles don't enjoy anything, that's why they do the things they do. They're never satisfied. They don't actually like music.

>>57201055
>>57201406
>isolated as fuck cable
>connectors completely exposed

They don't even follow their own meme "logic"

i miss coconut audio ;_;

>>57193734
Oh lord I hope you baiting

>>57202248
>Why Coconut Audio shuts down business
>Coconut Audio has built thousands of tweaks and cables that were large and expensive to build, always better than the competitors. However, we have not made any profits during these 6 years because we have cared more about giving away great sound to audiophiles, than caring about our own economy and health. Unfortunately, this has resulted in personal bankruptcy and we can no longer continue our business like before. Many of our cables were sold for lower than material cost in auctions, sometimes for only $1 dollar. After using up all our life savings, we cannot continue to build these cables.
>However, since we don't want to throw away all these years of research and development, we have opened up a new website which focuses mainly on small tweaks which we can make some profit from. We don't have a cable factory anymore, instead we only build the most expensive and best, one cable of each type, and there is a long building time for these. Unfortunately, you can no longer buy cheap cables from us.

I never got if those guys were joking or they were 100% serious about it.

>>57201584
src?

>>57202331
You have to maintain a pokerface when dealing with equipmentophiles.

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>not trimming your CDs to archive superior sound quality

fucking plebs

Anyone got the screenshot of the audiophile forum where they are discussing changes in sound quality based on which SATA cable they use for their hard drives?

>>57202331
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law

Without a clear indication of the author's intent, it is difficult or impossible to tell the difference between an expression of sincere extremism and a parody of extremism.

>>57202331
>I never got if those guys were joking or they were 100% serious about it.

Both. They started as a fucking joke, but when people started contacting them to actually purchase their shit, they realised they could continue their joke while actually making money off of it.

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>>57202522
>rationalwiki

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>>57193717
>I constantly get weird looks for adjusting people's are audio settings
>people's are audio settings
How are people even falling for this?

Does anyone make car speakers that can't pop?
If I can't turn my radio all the way up why does the setting exist?

>>57201368
wtf i love /g/ now

>>57202678
not an arguement

>>57202678
Can't handle logic and reason, Trump supporter?

>>57202826
nice bait boi

>>57202851
>people who disgree with me are trolls
we've come a full circle I see, the triggers became the triggered

>>57201368
What does your audio set up look like?

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>me on the right

>>57194189
>*literally* nothing but sub-bass;
The use of the word 'literally' in this board is depressing.

ex-audiophile with golden ear
i came to the conclusion that every audio device is shit
>vinyl
>while listening the stylus produces micro-scratches on the surface which degrade the quality
>after 5 listenings the quality is absolute trash

>digital
>limited dynamic range
>quantization
>all digital recordings are 8bit or 16bit integer
>64bit floating point would be passable but no one produces it

don't waste your time with audio, it's worthless

>>57202522
He was probably making a rhetorical question and you had to be the /r/atheism faggot who posts rationalwiki links.

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>>57203512
>digital
>limited dynamic range
>quantization
>all digital recordings are 8bit or 16bit integer
>64bit floating point would be passable but no one produces it

>>57201368
my African-American

>>57203512
>>57203565

24-bit is fine, no real hardware exceeds 20 bits dynamic range anyway, and you probably wouldn't want it to

anything above 48khz is a meme, 48 can give a nicer smoother high cutoff that doesn't impede on audible frequencies or produce aliasing like some 44khz filters can do

if you actually think vinyl has better sound then you do not have a golden ear, just a normie who thinks distortion sounds good

what's much more important than any of that is the DAC, amp and speakers

studio quality recordings are starting to come out digitally, the jurassic park one is absolutely amazing

>>57195915
>adding an uncalculated amount of inductance to a product with a carefully engineered impedance. K

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>>57202391

>>57203673
you are like a little baby

>no real hardware exceeds 20 bits dynamic range
that's why digital is shit

>anything above 48khz is a meme
this is absolutely false
listen to a 192khz recording vs a 48khz recording, even on average hardware you can feel a difference

>if you actually think vinyl has better sound then you do not have a golden ear, just a normie who thinks distortion sounds good
faggot who listens to second-hand vinyls detected

>>57203752
WTF am I looking at?

>$500 audio setup
>only listen to anime music

>>57203775
https://zstereo.co.uk/2016/07/18/keith-monks-omni-mk-vii/

>>57203379
The /mu/ equivalent of *wahoo* *1up*

>>57203761
analog isn't better than digital in that regard, you just don't measure dynamic range in bits

how loud do you need your music to be? your golden ear isn't gonna be golden for long if you want distortion free 100+ db music

you just need to push the noise floor down until it's unnoticable, 16 bit is mostly adequate, 20 bit is good for anything, 24 is more than enough

>you can "feel" the difference
hello mr. placebo

>pristine vinyls change the properties of the medium

???

yeah there aren't scratches and dust and whatnot on a brand new print but it's not like the harmonics or overtones that retards think sound "warm" are going to go away because it's fresh

in reality it has shit tier frequency response and muddy reproduction, the only analogue format that is audiophile grade is 8 track

>tfw realizing you have tinnitus

FUCK

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>>57203379
>ceramoc cartridge

>>57199087
Good album
I've listened to it on $2000 headphones, does that count?

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Audiophile is a dirty word, so very dirty

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32bit 192kHz full blown memes

>>57206534
pleb shit
get 384kHz pureaudio blu-rays or dsd

>>57206569
fuck the shit off man, you cannot be serious

>>57206421
bist du das mein alter reisfresser takayoshi?

>>57206736
it's possible, in english please

>>57206753
meh, seen it, wasn't that funny the first time desu

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>>57193717
Bite me

>>57203761
>that's why digital is shit
I know that just inching above 10 bits of Vinyl must sound so much better. Noise floor of the absolute best DA-converters on the market is around 21 bits. It's obviously lower than what digital formats can store but orders of magnitude higher than anything even possible with analog storage mediums like vinyl or the highest quality tape decks.

>listen to a 192khz recording vs a 48khz recording, even on average hardware you can feel a difference
You have no idea why those formats exist, what are they used for, what your hardware actually outputs and what our ears are capable of hearing to say that. Also nice confirmation bias and placebo effect. What did you think you felt?

Now consider this: all audible frequencies can be perfectly replicated with 44.1 KHz(Redbook) sampling rate already. In practice this is more complex because of the low pass filter design before Nyquist frequency is tricky with such small bandwidth to work with but it covers everything we hear. 48 KHz, 96 KHz, 192 KHz etc make the low pass filter easier and cheaper to implement and design as well as more effective. Higher sampling rates are also used in recording because oversampling is useful can be used to reduce distortion.

>>57203775
I think that it is a record cleaner of some sort. One of those things applies cleaning solution, another is a brush of some sort that will get into the grooves, and then the other one is a vacuum attachment that will get rid of the majority of the water to speed up the drying process.

These types of machines are usually used in places like the library of congress for archival purposes, but many people build their own for home use.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPazywXrqJo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZHjRe-hm_s

>>57196910
audyssey (XT and XT32) is fantastic... but it doesn't cover up bad placement and lack of room treatment.

>>57207848
jesus fuck that ear rape mids

>be audiophile
>get openly mocked and ridiculed by the professionals the produce the music I just want to listen to in the most autistic quality possible

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I hate to say it, but some of this audiophool stuff looks really cool, like these turntable cartridges that are made out of various types of stone. They are cool, but they are not $15,000 cool.

But shit like cable risers, OP's pic, custom PS1 based cd players and such are just retarded.