/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Reposting from last thread:
A friend gave me an old IBM ThinkPad (T42 2374).
The windows installation is fucked and its stuck in a boot loop.
I'd like to put mint on it. How do I go about this?
Do I just look for the latest version and put it on a USB stick and try to boot from that?

Linux Mint vs Debian fresh install which is better for security/privacy?

>>57187448
Debian by far.

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>>57187381
>The windows installation is fucked and its stuck in a boot loop.
>Do I just look for the latest version and put it on a USB stick and try to boot from that?
Yeah, use a tool like Rufus to create a bootable USB. You probably need to hold a function key when the laptop turns on like F8 or F12 or whatever in order to boot into other drives.

Also just a heads up on Mint, people are going to give you shit for using it and it's because of stuff like this: https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/

>>57187448
Definitely Debian, look at the article above. I dunno if Mint has changed their ways much since then, but I doubt it.

best musicbee alternative for windows? I'm thinking clementine is the most similar one, looks a little worse but functions similarly
best mpc-hc alternative? I heard mpv but it looks like some neckbeard intentionally hard-to-use type of shit.

>>57187469
>Also just a heads up on Mint ...
I was just going with what the babbys first linux pointed me at.
Thinking about it. Should I go with Lubuntu for a laptop this old?

Can't install mono-gmcs on Ubuntu.
Any other way to compile C# programs?

>>57187469
>I dunno if Mint has changed their ways much since then, but I doubt it.
Meanwhile, next to no distro actually secures their downloads.

>>57187512
>Should I go with Lubuntu for a laptop this old?
Yeah, but personally I like XFCE (so I guess Xubuntu) way more than LXDE and there's little to no performance difference besides XFCE using slightly more RAM.

>>57187532
What do you mean by secure? What makes a secure download?

I have gentoo on a thinkpad X201. I was quite (too much) conservative on configuring my kernel the first time plus I made some rookie mistake.

I want to take a fresh start and have two approaches :
(1) there is some guy that shared his kernel config (he has a core i7 whereas I have a core i5). Should I take his config and try to tweak it?

(2)should I use genkernel as a first iteration and remove step by step what I don't need?

Also, what's the "march" for a first gen core i5 in make.conf?
There's an option for "march=corei7" but I can't find one for i5.

>>57187374

Yes.

>>57187509

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications#Audio_players

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications#Video_players

There is no "best". Stop being a pathetic person who needs everything to be g approved.

>>57187610
Genkernel is babby tier, honestly if you cannot configure your kernel, you shouldn't run gentoo to begin with.

Other guy's config is a good start, that could work. However defconfigs have quite good and sane defaults.

If you are compiling locally for your own computer, just use march=native

there is a method by the way for determining your correct march setting, check this page:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distcc#With_Portage

>>57187650
best "x" alternative doesn't mean the objectively superior program, it means the one most similar to "x". stop acting like an ass

>>57187658

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Alternative

debotnet for arshelinux

Download snapshot(s)

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/runit/

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/eudev-git/

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=nosystemd&outdated=&SB=n&SO=a&PP=50&do_Search=Go
>some build more than one pkg

# nano /etc/makepkg.conf
PKGEXT='.pkg.tar'
SRCEXT='.src.tar'

makepkg that shit

visit obarun/void/ignite for 1 2 3 etc.

cry because mpv does not work

How do I add firmware to my USB installation image of Debian? I've downloaded the specific firmware but am unsure how far I'm supposed to unpack it. Also, documentation says to put it in the firmware folder on the USB while I've read some comments on other sites that say to put the .deb package straight on the root of the USB.

>>57187703
You need a flash drive formatted to FAT/FAT32. If you DD'd your debian installer from iso, you'll need a second drive or just do a non-dd install (with unetbootin, rufus, lili etc)

unpack the firmware to the root of the drive, like
/b43/b43_initvals.fw
if the installer still cannot find the files, just copy them to the root dir, without any subdirs or make a firmware dir and copy them there, like /firmware/b43/b43_initvals.fw

note: you really need FAT, debian installer in that stage cannot read/won't read ext2-3-4

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Which distro do I dual-boot on my Y700? Please, no bully.

I was thinking either the non-free Debian installation or Ubuntu-MATE, but I haven't been able to get my Subwoofer to work or effective automatic switching between dGPU and iGPU so far on anything non-Windows.

Recommendations are welcome, and if anyone has the same laptop, even better.

>>57187701
>runit
Might as well rm -rvf /*

>>57187837
>laptop
>subwoofer

Is this a new meme?

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>>57187863
It's not as bad as it sounds, Anon. No pun intended.

>>57187739
Yup, I'm using FAT32 and put it on a USB with UNetbootin. Thanks.

>>57187889
>unetbootin
Read the manual. Unetbootin fucks with the installer. On windows use win32diskimager and on gnu systems use either dd or cp.

>>57187739
Copied b43 (from /lib/firmware) to /firmware on installation USB. Didn't work. Guess I'll try right on the root of the drive next.

>>57187929
I'm installing to dual boot on an early 2008 MBP. I found that the first time I tried making the USB with Rufus my laptop didn't see it, but it did with UNetbootin. I can't really find reference to what you're talking about (probably because I'm really fucking new), so could you point me towards it?

>>57187701
>>>/trash/

>>57187945
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-isohybrid

>>57187948
>Is there a way to get netflix working on linux using firefox
no.

>>57187484
Conky

>>57187374
Use debian with XFCE and make a bootable pen drive with the appropriate (32 or 64 bit) version of the latest "live" install.

>>57187837
Debian with XFCE, and enjoy the hell that is Pulseaudio.

>>57187945
Just to make sure, you do have a Broadcom b43 card right? Not just blindly followed my instructions.

Using xfce, is there anything similar to unity mail?

I want to get desktop notifications on new mails, even if I have to use the stupid gmail web client.

>>57188073
xfce4-mailwatch-plugin sounds like what you need.

>>57188083
Many thanks, I was stupid enough not to check first.

>>57188068
I went by the exact codes that the installer told me in the network section, so should be all fine.

>>57188024
I guess I'll have to try again with other ones. The MacBook entry on the Debian wiki (https://wiki.debian.org/MacBook#Install_Debian) actually has it in the instructions.

>>57188073
Sylpheed

>>57188060
Thanks for the reply.

Debian = agree.
Pulseaudio = I'll try it.

Any particular reason for XFCE?

>>57188153
>Any particular reason for XFCE?
Customizability and no-bullshit interface.

What distro can I put on Thinkpad R61 (yes, it is fuken ancient) with 4GB of ram and nvidia nvs 140m

please don't laugh, it's still werking

>>57187548
>What makes a secure download?
SSL

>>57188251
Literally any of them.

Just use xfce, lxde, mate, other light DE or a WM.

Gonna reformat

Arch or Fedora

>>57188270
thx bro. i'm actually thinking of arch anywhere and if that fails then its debian. and if that fails maybe xubuntu.

>>57188279
Manjaro

>>57188279
Get Debian, don't fall for the Arch meme.

>>57188295
why is Arch meme?

>>57188180
While I've used Xubuntu before and quite liked it but I still have to ask you:

What's your opinion on GNOME?

Never used it but my alternative boot is Windows 8.1 and I quite like the start screen on that, wouldn't mind similar features.

Is it true that because Debian Testing doesn't have a dedicated security team, that the dirty COW kernel bug will be present until the kernel from Sid comes through to testing,?

>>57188302
bloated & broken

>>57188295
I thought the packages were outdated asf

>>57188313
Debian has three versions. The version "Sid" is rolling just like Arch.

>>57187845
>>57187979
explain or stfu

>>57188305
Yeah.

As an end user, either use stable or sid.

>>57188304
I'm not the guy you're responding to, but if you're looking for anything that works fast, gnome ain't that good. XFCE still allows for more customization, it's less taxing, you can fix its biggest issue (tearing) by installing compton and it's pretty damn fast.

Gnome would be more for people familiar with OSX, only the defaults show the global menu at the top to be actually worse. If you really use things like multiple workspaces, maybe it's good. It has a suite of programs and there are many gtk 3 themes out there but you'll find that some are broken with newer versions. Also, for extra functionality you're going to need to use firefox to install plugins or a chrome extension to install them (unless you want to do it manually which is pretty dumb). Overall it's not that great. XFCE is no-nonsense in comparison and doesn't lack features.

>>57188309
Debian is bloated and broken

>>57188344
Thanks.

Good enough for me, I'm sold.

>>57188344
If he has a machine that runs Windows 8 he should have no worries running Gnome

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>>57188305
Yes, but it has been around for a couple of years, waiting a few weeks won't do shit to you.

>>57188304
GNOME is prettier, but slower. If you don't mind the higher usage, you can switch. GNOME also supports the latest GTK versions, which allows newer themes. I like XFCE because I HATE the new shiny, white look on every *nix that is copied from shitbuntu.

Nevertheless, I would recommend using XFCE first to iron out the bugs and then replicate the same with GNOME to see if it works.

Don't forget to add jessie-backports to sources.list if you're going to use stable.

>>57188304
Overall it's good or atleast ok if that's your fancy.

No I don't see anything wrong with it apart from the devs attitude here and there.

I don't agree with this anon >>57188344
GNOME * is * fast to use.
The windows key overview is great.

>>57187509
well mpv and mpc-hc both use mplayer2 at the core

just get used to the interface desu

alternatively find another player based on mplayer2 like smplayer or kodi

>>57188373
He won't have worries, but it is still somewhat slower.

For instance, my setup is an i5 4460 with a 280x, which shouldn't have trouble with anything that wasn't a current game, yet animations kinda slow down a bit at times on gnome. I know it's dumb to complain about that when I'm not constantly switching between workspaces myself, but still it does that.

>>57188319
>Just like Arch
Older packages than Arch

>>57188344
>you can fix its biggest issue (tearing) by installing compton
if you use proprietary drivers and/or nvidia gpu you can't fix tearing even with compton

trust me I've tried

>>57188445
also I don't use xfce, this is just a general thing

I hear it's fixed in wayland but I don't think wayland supports proprietary drivers, so... rip

>>57188436
Sid would be comparable to Arch's testing

>>57188445
i am using xfce, compton, prop drivers and a gtx 970 and i have no tearing

>>57188454
And Arch would be comparable to debian testing?

>>57188481
I used to think my tearing was fixed, too. But some autistic friends of mine pointed it out at one point and now I can see it again. I think compton was actually making it worse so I've mostly stopped running it now.

>>57188445
That blows. I thought nvidia GPUs didn't have many issues with specific DEs. I was even gonna switch because I have had some trouble with AMD in the past and right now it persists with newer ones (and I have to still wait for better drivers since my GPU falls under that "it's almost legacy but still powerful enough so I guess we have to keep supporting it" category

I guess that he should try both XFCE and Gnome and check what works best for his hardware.

>>57188482
pretty sure regular arch gets newer packages than sid and arch testing is a whole level above that even

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Quick question: What's the best distro?

>>57188493
Keep in mind compton has different backends and vsync options. Defaults might not work.

>>57188496
It's not with specific DEs, I only mentioned it because someone brought up compton fixing tearing. It's an issue with xorg, I think.

I've gone through hell in the last couple years because of my nvidia gpu. Definitely going AMD in the future.

>>57188504
I've tried all the shitty meme flags everyone on here suggests. I've tried vsync through compton. I've tried vsync through nvidia-settings instead. (running both creates lag)

Can I switch from Arch to Debian Testing without losing all of my configurations and stuff? I don't have a spare hard drive to install it on, but I want to switch. It's not that I don't like Arch, it's great, but I want to give Debian a try, and it's much more supported when it comes to hardware.

>>57188502
Arch with KDE

>>57188502
25

I mean apartheid

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>>57188502

>>57188502
16

>>57188520
>and it's much more supported when it comes to hardware.
Hardware is handled the the kernel. What the heck makes you think Debian has better hardware support?

If you have /home on its own partition or at least back it up you could keep all your configs in .config, but anything in /etc and so on would have to be backed up separately.

>>57188482
Pretty much.

There are differences when new versions get adopted, but no, Arch isn't always faster

>>57188502
NixOS or GuixSD probably. I'm a big fan of Arch, th ough.

>>57188518
Well shit, I don't know what to tell you.

Compiz is pretty crappy on XFCE due to window decorations being silly, but did you try that thing?

>>57188544
I'm using openbox/i3 (on different machines, both have tearing). Never messed with Compiz before.

>>57188502
1 + 4 + 9 + 16 = 30. There are 30 balls, am I right?

>>57188535
All those proprietary software offering to support "Linux" and giving a .deb file.

>>57188560
>All those proprietary software offering to support "Linux" and giving a .deb file.
Ah. Just do this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=110035

>>57188560
>All those proprietary software offering to support "Linux" and giving a .deb file.
Have fun with your Ubuntu LTS packages that won't even work for your Debian-system due to version conflicts.

Who the hell just installs packages from a 3rd party?

>>57188523
I wanna buy that.

>>57188518
Have you tried software rendering yet? Remove the

libgl1-mesa-glx 

package and install

 libgl1-mesa-swx11 

>>57188422
>animations
Your fault

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I'M GOING TO FUCKING KILL SOMEONE, WHAT'S THE FUCKING ISSUE HERE?

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>>57188502
The one I'm using.

>>57188785
Debian is insecure

>>57188828
t. nobody

>>57188785
Probably you, but the alternative is that someone fucked with your network and wants to specifically target you, so it should be easy to accept that you probably used the wrong key to compare to or used the key of another iso.

hi /g/ any fellow ubuntu 16.04 user . whats is the best dock application for ubuntu ?

>>57188835
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/

Honestly, I swear to fucking God it's not me. I've been checking for the past hour or so. The fucking:

debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso

doesn't match it checksums. Can someone please fucking double check, It's making me want to skin some babies.

>>57188863
I would but i am on my phone. I would suggest you to go to the debian irc and ask around.

>>57188785
That's why you should have downloaded the torrent instead.

>>57188863
That's irc.debian.org port 6667 (or 6697 for SSL)

>>57188885
fucking this

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>>57188863
it's fine for me over here

>>57188914
You should have passed it --ignore-missing, so it only shows the existing files.
Also, md5 is obsolete, use sha256

>>57188436

It's almost the same, some are newer, some are older.
Instead of making such a ridiculous claim, maybe you should just go and see for yourself before doing that.

made a thread about it then saw this. whats the best ideal filesystem to be using for linux? currently backing my shit up to go full debian, i have an SSD which will be for debian and then a normal drive for all my storage which im currently backing up and will probably make ext4. should i stick ext4 on the ssd too or is there anything significantly better? cheers

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>>57188957
didn't know that, denks

>>57188785

>using an online hash generator
>not creating the hash yourself

Wow, just wow.

>>57189018
ext4 is the good ol' reliable and universal choice for gahnoo slash loonix.
Remember to enable to "discard" mount option for SSDs.

>>57188863
Re-download the iso.

>>57188863

How do you expect someone else to check it for you? The point is that YOU have downloaded a tampered file and it's YOU who has to verify it against the known.

Someone please explain why most distros don't deliver their checksums over https. Does it even makes sense to verify checksums when the source isn't secured?

>>57189074
I personally use carrier pigeons with smoke signals, so you can fix your own problems.

>>57189045

thanks, was having way too many weird permission issues with ntfs plus i have no real need for windows anymore so im makin the change. cheers.

>>57188498
You are wrong. arch and sid are about the same in terms of being up to date. Which is fairly impressive considering the sheer size of the debian main repo.

>>57188384
>faggot.c

>>57188384

is that the fucking die hard 4 theme on your media player? i swear on god when i first saw that movie i installed ubuntu with the sole intention of having an OS that looked like that

>>57189153
>die hard 4 theme
fuck yeah

>>57189153
I'm surprised you noticed that.

Good work.

>>57189187

kinda feel like installing it now once i get debian up and running again

>not listening to flyleaf and drinking redbull at 4am while hacking the planet

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>>57189032
WHY THE FUCK WOULD DIFFERENT ONLINE HASH GENERATORS RETURN DIFFERENT RESULTS? HOW THE FUCK IS THIS EVEN ALLOWED?!?!?!?!

You were right, Anon, I checked with cmd and it was fine..................

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>>57189232
>>not listening to flyleaf and drinking redbull at 4am while hacking the planet

>not listening to twee pop

>>57189280
.being able to check hash online adn uploading the entire file

Fuck, how good is your internet connection? 2/0.5 here

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>>57189281

>not listening to the prodigy and carl cox

>>57189290
>2/0.5
My condolences

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>>57189290
The real question is why are online hash generators returning wrong sums?

>>57189074
this

>>57189312
I HURT MYSELF TODAY

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>>57189295
>not this album
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSS CCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIISSSTTTTT

>>57189395

what sort of 14 year old kiddy shit is this

>>57189402
THIS ISN'T KIDDY SHIT YOU PLEB

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>>57189377
TO SEE IF I STILL FEEL

>>57189377
Don't worry, you're not alone. I had 5/5 back in the 2009, fortunately that nightmare is long over.

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>>57189413
I FOCUS ON THE PAIN

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>>57189411

that is all

>>57189422
My D/L speed maxes at 225, 500 must be heaven.

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>>57189423
THE ONLY THING THATS FREE

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>>57189442
THE NEEDLE TEARS A HOLE

>>57189342

The question is why would someone be stupid enough to use them? Why would you trust something that important to a random web service? Especially when it's ultimately inconvenient to use the web service compared to a simple utility on your computer.

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>>57189505
What if the utility is compromised?

>>57189342
Bad network connection

>>57189074

If you're that paranoid, verify the PGP signature. Most respectable distributions offer that.

>>57189505
You make a valid point, but why is it 'that important' in this case?

I don't use it for anything other than various .iso and .exe files publicly available. What's the danger if you don't use it for text?

>>57189377

TO SEE IF I STILL COMPILE
I FOCUS ON STDOUT
THE ONLY THING
THAT'S FREE

>>57189522

Compile it yourself from upstream and verify the source files. You most likely trust your distribution with other more important files, so therefore you can trust their packages which provide those utilities.
For ultimate paranoia, implement your own hashing program.

>>57188251
>Thinkpad R61
Arch-Anywhere fail!

RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>57189537

>why is it 'that important' in this case?
Because it's relatively low-level. It's your distribution. If that is compromised, then everything else will be.

>for text
Which text?

I'm installing ubuntu right now
any tips?

>>57189609
Use a Q-Tip

>>57188251
>Thinkpad R61
Debian can't into wifi

>>57189609
Uninstall amazon lense.

>>57189604
I feel like we're discussing two different things here.

>Download Debian .iso from website using Windows
>find online generator
>Upload the same .iso
>Check the sum it generates
>If correct, I'm happy, the uploaded .iso is lost forever or they're free to make a copy if they so wish.

Now tell me how the fuck can they compromise the .iso in this case?

>Which text?
If for whatever reason you want to check the sum of your bank account password and full name, using an online service would be retarded.

Should I use netstat or ss? How to use it to see everything?

Hi, I'm yesterday Void guy. I did what >>57183804 said and it fixed almost everything.

Startx works, AltMenu show me suggestions. Only neofetch have some details I will fix. Thanks to everyone who helped me yesterday and for all of your patience.

Very thanks.

>>57189722

They don't compromise the ISO, they give you a wrong hash sum. It's also ridiculous to upload your data to someone for him to check something that simple.

>>57188783
So you're gonna tell me that with that hardware I'm not supposed to expect good performance with animations on a desktop environment?

Nah I suppose that I should disable font antialiasing too and be sure not to have more than 3 chromium tabs open at a time, just in case.

>>57188251
>Thinkpad R61
Antergos failed to boot.

REEEEEE

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So, the notification area in XFCE with the adwaita theme included with gnome-themes-standard has this ugly ass border.

I don't suppose anyone knows how to hide that border right there without installing an older version as suggested in the arch wiki? I like pretty much every other aspect of this theme.

>>57189945

Use a global override for the theme and change that color. That looks like GTK3, has the panel been ported to GTK3?
Either way, I'd use that GTK3 inspector or however it's called, which lets you find out various information including which CSS classes are used for theming in an application. Then just use a global override in .config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css.

... or use a different theme.

>>57190015
By the looks of it:

/* Adwaita is the default theme of GTK+ 3, this file is not used */

So I guess the next step is to mess around with that.

I would probably use a different theme, since I keep trying different ones and none of them have that issue, but I really fancy this one and for some reason, half the themes don't render borders around buttons (which makes things a bit harder to distinguish). This one works pretty well so I'm going to try this. Thanks.

>>57187448
This is a good question I myself run a dual system with Mint and windows.

Is Debian better to install or works out of the box ? I don't want to try to install cinnamon only to dick around for days to get it to work.

Trying to install a DE(cinamon) under Arch gave me nightmares.
>Pacman cinamon
you need other BS
>Pacman xserver
you need other shit
>Pacman other shit
you need even more obscure BS
>WTF! Seriously!

Someone had issues with neofetch displaying image lately?

I searched a little around and seems like it is a w3m issue, and not neo's

>>57190105

Adwaita for GTK3 comes with the GTK3 package (it's not in that gnome-themes-standard package). To edit it, download the source for GTK3.
You don't have to edit the whole theme. Use a small snippet in the gtk.css file in your config. That will apply to all themes.

However, if downgrading that package fixes your issue, it means that the panel is using GTK2 (because the GTK2 theme comes with that package). I think you can still apply a global override for GTK2 in the same vein, look online. You could also just edit the GTK theme directly (uglier solution).

>>57190207
messing around I decided to download the gnome-themes-ubuntu package as well (I'm currently using Xubuntu) and the Mist theme suits my needs and doesn't use the ugly border. I'll be checking on that some other time. Many thanks.

i wanted a cheap tiny laptop so I bought an acer 11 chromebook. Does anyone know if I can replace the SSD and install GNU/Linux on it?

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>>57187673
RMS/GNU super levels of autism.
Seriously the moment you realize RMS is to autistic to understand that alternative is a word meaning a replacement you realize not to listen to this retard.

The neck beard loves to butcher the language the problem is that in his ultra strict way of talking he is hurting himself.
No one is going to change the English language to be a GNU fanboy.

And if GNU/Linux is not a alternative for windows what is it? A non alternative? A Toy project? Oh well if its not a replacement for windows I bet no one should use it.

Needles to say RMS is a sheltered autist from the 1970s and only worked in terminal unix computers, the problem is that no one runs their OS like this for day to day.

The shocker is that RMS is not even using computers any longer he sits in his home and walks to conferences where he repeats the same old lecture of
>GNU/linux not linux

Meanwhile in the real world no one gives a fuck if you say GNU/Linux if it can not replace windows it will be have only one name
>Useless trash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=615Dt-k1LCQ

Thoughts on mageia? Anyone use it and like it? Looks comfy

>>57189897
No i am telling you that animations are generally slow and useless.

>>57190276
Wow, the faggot that asks for "best software" also hates on RMS. Colour me surprised.

>>57190117
What terminal are you using?

>>57190380
urxvt iirc

It worked a few days ago.

>>57190399

Use the configuration:

URxvt.depth: 24

Or the flag:

-depth 24

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>>57190360
Umm
Dude this was my first post in this thread.

I only pointed out that RMS is insane with his word obsession, not a fan of this man.

>asks for "best software"
I'm genitally surprised do you really think all software is created equally?
Like Timi's first program who has memory leaks crashes constantly is on the same level like lets say the linux kernal?

>>57190449
Different software targets the needs of different users, so the best software for a specific user is always subjective.

>>57190429
I launched urxvt -depth 24 and did the same.

What information can I provide to you?

>>57190471
What
>targets the needs of different users
requires memory leaks and crashing randomly after 3 seconds?

>>57190479
No idea then. I had a related issue with ranger (w3m-img) not drawing any framebuffer with urxvt depth 32; depth 24 fixed it for me.

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I have a Haswell CPU with other hardware from around the same time and I use ethernet instead of wifi, so do I really need the newest packages if all I do is shitpost, browse the web, and do assignments in c/c++ and java?
I ask because I'm toying with the idea of installing Debian, but the dank meme is that packages are ancient.

>>57190276
>>>/9gag/

>>57190491
>too stupid to use computer
>blames computer

>>57190471
>>57190549

Typical equalist crap.
>all software is equal
>all software is subjective
>don't judge
>All software is created equally
I'm sick of this leftists eqaulist crap.
There is always one equalists kook who will start saying this crap and if asked for specifics or to answer questions they run.

Their viewpoint is impossible and unrealistic, demonstratively false.

WE all can see that coding errors are bad and crashes and bugs are wrong therefore software with bad coding is bad.

The leftists equalist position is always wrong, some software is superior.


Hail linux.
Uninstall windows; OS war now.

>>57190449
>>57190276

You're an idiot who doesn't know what autism is first of all.
Secondly, there's nothing "retarded" or "autistic" about RMS and free software. If you weren't an idiot, you'd be able to realize that such meticulous thought processes and decisions are needed to legitimise the free software movement and foundation (with the license). If the people who advocate free software were hypocrites, then the whole movement would collapse.

All of your arguments are some childish, subjective and irrelevant ad-hominem attacks against him and the FSF. You made no points which would challenge the philosophical or even legal side of the GPL. That's how you argue in kindergarten or on 4chan.
Kill yourself.

>>57190567
Coding errors exist in each and every software.

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>>57187361
I chose a very slow local mirror and there's no cancel button.
Installing on external hard disk.
Should I restart?
please help asap

>>57190491
now I reget not saving pics of the screenfetch war some threads ago
>debian server
>uptime: ~1200 days
>debian desktop
>uptime: ~400 days

What's your longest archived uptime /fglt/?
>225 days

>>57190549
>>too stupid to use computer
>>blames computer
This is getting desperate is it not?

Are you saying that if I write something wrong in the code its the users fault?
Like if I write a routine to trash the OS and force a BSOD or restart the computer randomly its that fault of the user somehow?

Even that I have written the code?
And the OS will crash with no user imput?

or are you saying that this is desirable or good for some subjective users?

>>57190610

Why would someone care about uptime on a personal computer?

>>57190567
>starts bringing in *ists and *isms
>>>/pol/

No one is saying that helloworld.c is equivalent to the Linux kernel (unless they're retarded). Obviously all software doesn't have equal value.

As far as I can tell, you're just in a bad mood, so you're building up some imaginary straw man who has these retarded positions. Then you make a big ol' angry rant directed at "the straw man" AKA the "leftists" & "equalists"

>>57190649
It makes the e-penis longer.

>>57190610
>look at random screenfetch
>arch logo
>uptime: 5 minutes
really makes you think

>>57190694
Maybe VM? Or he just booted? What's the point?

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any livestreamer alternative?
the program is a piece of shit now

>>57190730
nobody really uses arch, people pretend to use it to be cool

5 minutes is the exact time to start the vm, boot and execute screenfetch

all arch users are really users of microsoft windows

>>57190758
install gentoo

Is it OK to ask a BSD question here?

How do jails work? Is it like a VM or just a container? Can I control processes in a jail from the host or would I need to ssh into the jail first?

>>57190758
>>>/a/

>>57190758
>livestreamer
Why are there still people around using livestreamer? Use youtube-dl.

>>57190808

hol' up
can I use youtube-dl for twitch?

>>57190587
>Secondly, there's nothing "retarded" or "autistic" about RMS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQxKURvE9iI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ

He is definitively anal about words and looks and acts like a hobo.

>free software
I did not say one word about GPL or free software.

>That's how you argue in kindergarten or on 4chan.
WE are on a website named 4chan.org I hope you realize it.

Now please explain how is criticizing RMS for his obsession about words like "alternative" or
>creator
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Content
or
>ecosystem
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Ecosystem
Bad?
RMS is obsesses with words and wants us using some ungodly new speak where we are not allowed to use the word "creator" for someone who created some software.
So what do we name someone who created software?
>A co hacker who witnessed the co creation of the free as in freedom not as in bear peace of free GNU/GPL code
I'm sorry this is getting ridicules and on the level of some crazy feminist/SJW.
The man butchers language and uses joke acronyms like GNU and is surprised why no one is using something that is impossible to say.

What is more important:
1) Everyone will use GNU/Linux on the planet however we still use the word alternative and creator
2) No one will ever use any GNU GPL software all software is proprietary and writing own code without a programing license is a crime however we no longer use the word alternative and creator since RMS informed the world how bad using these words twords GNU/linux is.

Chose one.
This man is only obsessed with trivialities instead of doing some work in the adoption of GNU/linux software he is obsessed with baning the use of the phrase:

>GNU/linux is a alternative to windows
and replace it with
>GNU/Linux is the only free software anyone should use and is not a alternative to windows.

>>57190694

That's true.
t. Arch user with uptime of 6 hours

>>57189402
It's /mu/core
Never take music recommendations from /mu/

>>57190758

there's a fork called streamlink

https://streamlink.github.io/

>>57190765
Most Arch users won't post in stupid desktop threads

How do you install the open source amdgpu driver on debian?

I'm running cinnamon and linux 4.7 from the backports.
I have installed xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu, firmware-amd-graphics and libdrm-admgpu1 from the backports.

And i still get corrupted graphics on the desktop.

>>57190117
A little bump just for knowing if someone more had any issues lately.

>>57190849

Those are personal attacks against his person. Not valid arguments agains the FSF and his involvement in it.

>anal about words
Because you have to be anal about words in a legal sense, idiot.

>i did not say one word about gpl or free software
GNU is literally the second word in your post.

>Now please explain how is criticizing RMS for his obsession about words like "alternative" or ... is bad
It is bad because your critcism is about your personal opinion about the silliness of being so concise and clear. Free software advocates have a solid base of causes and they are sticking to them. There is nothing "autistic" or "obsessive" about those "trivialities". According to you every lawyer or law abiding person is obsessive.

>>57190672
>Obviously all software doesn't have equal value.
This is my position
>No one is saying that helloworld.c is equivalent to the Linux kernel (unless they're retarded).
VS
>>57190549
>>57190471
>best software for a specific user is always subjective.
I asked specifically
>>57190449
>I'm genitally surprised do you really think all software is created equally?

I don't know if you are the same anon however most of these equalists are hit and run
>All software is equal, stop hating.
is something to often I see in technological debates.

Like it or not the word equalist is a short hand for these people, sort you like me using the word pacifist since it has
>*ists and *isms
?
And like it or not this kind of thinking is characteristic of leftists who think we are all equal even cripples and retards and if you think different you are a racist/hitler/nazi/fashist.

look how I asked about specifics he answered
>>57190471
>best software for a specific user is always subjective.
And this is getting silly its basically
>all is subjective man
>don't judge man
>stop the hate man

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>>57190849
RMS is very radical and probably autistic. Duh.

Sure, he's socially inept, too anal with his definitions of words, and crazily absolute when it comes to free software.

HOWEVER, this is the man who started the free software movement and successfully created a free as in freedom operating system. He's still campaigning for it to this day. Would GNU/Linux be better off if RMS wasn't so radical? Maybe.. but maybe it never would've happened or had the same level of success without his autistic persistence.

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Are games supposed to run this bad on Linux? I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 and use the open source AMD driver. Company of Heroes 2 admittedly does not support AMD drivers but still it runs so bad. I tried the propriety drivers and AMDGPU-PRO but they both took a big dump on my PC. My monitors stopped working etc

Does anyone here use a dock for their laptop with Linux? I want to be able to use my Latitude with a couple of monitors and keyboard/mouse when I'm at my desk and I'd like to be able to just leave things plugged in.

>>57190834
Yes

>>57190992

how?
just youtube-dl twitch tv/stream_name is enough?

>>57190834
Give it a try.

>Currently supported sites (or features of sites) are:
>ScreenwaveMedia, SenateISVP, ServingSys, Sexu, SexyKarma, Shahid, Shared, ShareSix, Sina, skynewsarabia:video, TeleTask, TenPlay, TestURL, TF1, TheIntercept, TheOnion, ThePlatform, ThePlatformFeed, TheSixtyOne, ThisAmericanLife, ThisAV, THVideo, THVideoPlaylist, tinypic, tlc.de, TMZ, TMZArticle, TNAFlix, toggle, tou.tv, Toypics, ToypicsUser, TrailerAddict (CURRENTLY BROKEN), Trilulilu, trollvids, TruTube, Tube8, TubiTv, tudou, tudou:album, tudou:playlist, Tumblr, tunein:clip, tunein:program, tunein:shortener, tunein:station, tunein:topic, Turbo, Tutv, tv.dfb.de, TV2, TV2Article, TV4, TVC, TVCArticle, tvigle, tvland.com, tvp.pl, tvp.pl:Series, TVPlay, Tweakers, twitch:bookmarks, twitch:chapter, twitch:past_broadcasts, twitch:profile, twitch:stream, twitch:video, twitch:vod, twitter, twitter:amplify, twitter:card, Ubu, udemy, udemy:course, UDNEmbed, UnicodeBOM, Unistra, Urort, ustream, ustream:channel, Varzesh3, Vbox7, VeeHD, Veoh, Vessel, Vesti, Vevo, VGTV, vh1.com, Vice, Viddler, video.google:search, video.mit.edu, VideoDetective, videofy.me, VideoMega (CURRENTLY BROKEN), videomore, videomore:season, videomore:video, VideoPremium, VideoTt (CURRENTLY BROKEN), videoweed, vidme, vidme:user, vidme:user:likes, Vidzi, vier, vier:videos

They say about twitch
https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/supportedsites.html

Besides its console program, get it and give it a tray.

>>57190983
Don't blame Linux for the shitty AMD driver support.
At least there is hope that the situation will get better in the near future, I still fear for Nvidia turning to shit.

>>57191020
last time i tried it was with the mpf ytdl hook. So basically mpv <link>

>>57190765
Is Arch really only a meme?
Was i really trolled this hard?

BTW what distro are you using I'm using mint and looking to try others.

>>57190983
depends on the game, your driver/kernel version and your gpu.

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>>57191068
>Is Arch really only a meme?
It's a distro that tons of people use. Stop living in this world where X and Y are "memes" aka SHIT without any evidence.

>BTW what distro are you using
Debian

>I'm using mint and looking to try others.
Mint is poorly made: https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/

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whoah, you really can use youtube-dl for twitch! what a powerful program

thanks /fglt/ here's a cute anime pic for your trouble

>>57190925
Warning 1
you did not answer the question, you are unable ot understand what I'm asking, your own position or are trying to shift the discusion the quesiton is:

>>57190849
>What is more important:
>1) Everyone will use GNU/Linux on the planet however we still use the word alternative and creator
>2) No one will ever use any GNU GPL software all software is proprietary and writing own code without a programing license is a crime however we no longer use the word alternative and creator since RMS informed the world how bad using these words twords GNU/linux is.

>Chose one.
>This man is only obsessed with trivialities instead of doing some work in the adoption of GNU/linux software he is obsessed with baning the use of the phrase:
......

>>57191068

>is meme
Kill yourself if you need others to approve of your operating system and if you think that a legit operating system can be a meme.

>>57190962
100% agree.
The problem is that the RMS fan boy anon is not getting my position.

I'm not criticizing GPL or the FSF or GNU.

This conversation
>someone uses the word alternative
>other anon pints out that alternative is a baned word by RMS
>I say ignore it RMS is anal about words and autistic
>Other anon freaks out with incoherent text.

Yes RMS did start the movement and we should remember this however we need to remember that RMS is not the leader or some god creature.

For starters he is not helping the movement with his crusade ageist words.
This will alienate normies and hurt the sauces of free software.

I love for GNU/linux + GPL soft to grow to 50% and beyond however we need to focus our efforts on this and not obsessing over the word
>Alternative
>creator

Every time you speak to a normie you are not concerned if you tell him a word that is not kosher for RMS you are concerned to get him to embrace the philosophy not that you did say
>Yes GNU/linux is a viable alternative to windows

>>57190983
Here is the truth ignore the delusional/trolls the entire GNU/GPL ecosystem is getting fucked over hard by hardware manufacturers who are simply not interested in supporting it.

If nVidia tels you
>Go fuck yourself, I will not only not give you drivers I will actively do everything in my power so that you can never use my hardware under your OS
You know you are fucked and can appreciate that its a miracle that some people on their free time and a shoestring budget managed to glue together a OS that can work on some hardware.

GNU is about freedom your freedom not preference with cards, everyone who tells you that its about the best power or practically is delusional or a troll.

I appreciate that the OS is not spaying on me 24/7 unlike on windows 10.
My suggestion have one HDD where you have your windows 7 + games and do your Internet browsing/writing on you GNU OS.

Pressure game devs to move to GNU/Linux and hope for the best.

>>57191171
Sorry anon you need to kill yourself first.
Everyone can fork and write their own dystro making it is ultra easy.
So its not impossible for a joker to make a dystro that is crippled and practically unusable (you never install graphic drivers or install networking).
Now the question is if people run Arch the question is it on the desktop or the server with CLI only and others are trolling new users into going arch knowing that its only a server OS.

>>57191378
Take some deep breaths and calm down

So with XFCE, is there any plugin out there that would have the same functionality as pinned applications in other desktops?

You know, the same way it works on docks as well. Pin something, open it later and avoid clutter.

>>57191020
Are you on GNU now?
Try getting the program and use it.
Jesus Christ children its not that difficult I used youtube-dl under windows and on GNU.

youtube-dl is essential every other mas downloader is shit and only a scam that is shit, slow and a scam to get money.

>>57191097
>It's a distro that tons of people use.
pupularity != quality
see: Mint

>>57191404
>Not having a counter point to my calmly constructed refutation on how someone can create a joke dystro.
only on /g/

>>57191510
So, you're calm and just can't into English?
Ok.

>>57191068
Arch Linux is a meme. It promises simplicity and being lightweight while it's actually broken and bloated. Take the red pill from an actual Arch dev: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/
All I see is some moaning about CLI name conflicts with obscure CLI tools.

This looks like a CLI/repo BS apt-get was always shit and GNU needed its own installers where you can chose what allies will the program get not some apt-get shit.

A properly sane OS would be build like this to avoid conflicts of names.
The other option is having some 1984 mainframe controlling every name on every distro or creating some kind of DNS for aliases.

Anybody knows a program/applet for tint2, that will display weather in the tray? I found weatherboy, but it's not working.

>>57191641
what you should see: mint blacklists major packages from all updates; linux, systemd, xorg, etc., means, while other users get security updates, mint users have two options:
- enable the blacklisted packages and break the system
- keep them blacklisted and get cracked by script kiddies

>>57191641
I can barely parse what you're saying.

>This looks like a CLI/repo BS apt-get was always shit
What is "CLI/repo BS"? Command-line interface/repository bullshit?

> and GNU needed its own installers where you can chose what allies will the program get not some apt-get shit.
Are you referring to Guix? What are allies?

Please get better at writing or at least be more specific about these things.

>>57191556
>It promises simplicity and being lightweight
I have never gives 2 shits about lightweight, oh no the system takes 2MB of RAM how terrible NOT!
I'm interested in the dam thing working and if the devs need to include every single driver in existence I'm happy with it if one of them works on my computer.

And what is simplicity? If I wanted simplicity I use windows 8 or MS BOB.
Never have given 2 shits about this.
A OS needs to :
1) be powerful for the power user
2)Work (no crashes, driver support)

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>>57187469
I've got that shirt on right now

>>57191641
>The other option is having some 1984 mainframe controlling every name on every distro or creating some kind of DNS for aliases.
A developer could simply check if a program named mdm is already in the repos. If the developer doesn't, he's stupid, if he doesn't care, he's even more stupid.

>>57191750
10/10, beard need to be longer tho

I just installed funtoo and xorg (bleahg)
What is a good, small internet browser and window manager that I can use. dwm is ok still right?

>>57191796
dwm is super good and minimal.
awesome is like dwm++ if dwm is a little too esoteric for you

>>57191690
>- keep them blacklisted and get cracked by script kiddies
Pff i was on windows its the norm.
The
>Oh you need to update to stay secure
is a load of crap and I was never afraid.

Besides you know that the entire GPL ecosystem has
hackers donating their time to write extra code where they hide secret exploits like shell shock.

If you are running GPL you are on a insecure OS from the start.
Besides they can try, what are they going to do?
Hack me and get my hors X clown porn?
Get my computer to DDOS some website?
Use my computer to impersonate me and shitpost on 4chan?

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>>57191824
I looked at awesome but lua configs made my eyes bleed.

I was thinking maybe bspwm?

>>57191834
literally wat

>>57191834
GNU = OS
GPL = License
Linux = Kernel
Security = Good
Mint = Bad

>>57191924
i want to discuss about this post

>>57191937
Rejected.

>>57191122
>Warning 1
OH GUYS GET BACK, HE'S GONNA CAUSE TROUBLE

>>57191824
There is nothing better than dwms config.

>>57191980
Config which doesn't require recompiling.

>>57191717
>What is "CLI/repo BS"? Command-line interface/repository bullshit?
yes. Repositories are retarded and need to die, software needs to be installed differently.

>What are allies?
sorry auto correct got me I was thinking about aliases http://www.linfo.org/alias.html

>Please get better at writing or at least be more specific about these things.
I'm new to GNU and CLI so I don't understand why everything you apt-get automatically creates a alias or whatever so that its name is a command in the CLI.
Why can I not chose to install it with a different name?
Like lets say i want to get youtube-dl and it always takes up the name youtube-dl even the most stupid computer user understands its bad design.
What is something else wants to use the name youtube-dl?

Do you have a global database of all names ever used by every program?

Of course I'm coming from a windows next>next>accept world however I can think that in the CLI you can get something like
install youtube-dl.deb name=xyz
And the installer tries to register the name xyz to start up youtube-dl.
Of course youtube-dl.deb is in the same folder you are browsing.

I seriously don't like the idea of having some big brother repo that my OS is configured to to get my software. I prefer to have a web browser and a installer in the OS so that I can download the installer and install it into my OS.

.DEB files show that you can get one installer working under GNU so why the repo shit?

>>57191989
>compiling
I don't even know how to edit config files before emerging on funtoo

>>57191989
It literally takes less than 3 seconds and you can add a keybind if you are some riceboi that does that every day.

>>57191824
>>57191846
xmonad. Source is under 1000 lines of haskell yet it's completely programmable (including changing config at runtime) and has third-party contributed code available for pretty much any functionality under the sun.

I use it with the BinarySpacePartitioning module to provide a bspwm-like layout, as well as WindowNavigation to provide hjkl-style directional navigation.

What is the best music player?

>>57192028
>haskell
Might as well kill myself
>>57192044
The one i am using

>>57192057
>Might as well kill myself
What's wrong with learning a bit of Haskell?

>>57192001
>I'm new to GNU and CLI so I don't understand why everything you apt-get automatically creates a alias or whatever so that its name is a command in the CLI.
It doesn't even create an alias, you'd also have the same behavior on Windows if you'd install your software in the PATH or add it to the PATH.

>>57192057
Which one are you using?

>>57192177
the best ;^)

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>>57191886
>>57191924

For special children:
>GPL = License
If everyone can write into your code you know you have tons of hidden surprises like shell shock so its a GPL problem.

GNU is a OS under the GPL so its a insecure OS.

>Update to stay secure
Is useless and a waist of time if these idiots are to incompetent to make a safe OS from the start what makes you think their patches will not introduce new errors? Its always the same.
The only real and good method for getting a secure OS is the Stalinist method if the OS has a shell shock or other exploits everyone who has written in the code is summoned and executed, their families are executed and their pets.

Now you take new people and continue the process. Until a good OS is made.

What do you expect from the software industry where no one takes any responsibility for the crap you are running?

Ever read the GPL? Anny EULA?
>We take no responsibility for any harm

The moment devs are accountable for the crap their write will be the moment all exploits/viruses/hacks stop.

>>57192139
It's not C. :^)
Nothing really, i was just memeing.
>>57192044
there's a lot of good ones, a few examples include cmus, moc and ncmpcpp/mpd for CLI/TUI or deadbeef, quod libet and clementine for GUI.
That really only scratches the surface and instead of asking for the "best" you should be asking for the one that fits your needs best. For that to work you need to tell us about your preferences.

>>57191957
Warning 2
Not answering the question.
So anon you are refusing to answer the question let me make a assumption you realized how utterly retarded your position is and under no circumstances do you want to answer the question.

The warning number increases every time you don't answer the question.
Its a reminder of how evasive you are.

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How do I make compton AND xpenguins work at the same time?

>>57192193
Free Software = Can be audited
Proprietary Software = Can't be audited

Which one do you think is more secure?

>>57192248
>Warning 2
Oh no, he's serious

>>57192248
>everyone that ridicules me is a single person
Let's see how far we can get your autism level to rise.

>>57192256
The heck is xpenguins?

>>57192283
http://xpenguins.seul.org/

it's like xsnow and oneko but cooler

>>57192248
>Warning count
>being this autistic

>>57192307
>tfw none of these work with a tiling wm
sadness

That said, for winter I add a border to my tiling layout so I can see the xsnow in the gaps

>>57192307
Find out the window class of the program and blacklist it in comptons config.

>>57192148
OK so what is the name of this activity where a new name is registered to be recognizable in the CLI? Like I can tab complete and man that shit.

>same behavior on Windows
I'm not defending windows its bad in its own way.
However I was thinking from my work in windows that why is every program not separate and independent from the OS?
No registry (unix has a registry its not important that the registry consists of text files and not a binary blob) and every program is independent.

Something like portableapps.com on a system level. The user configures where he wants to have his program, what path and what connections to create.

And if you install Fier fox in C:/clow_sex/my_porn/rape its not a problem.

>>57190907
do i have to wait for linux 4.9 ?

>>57188420
>well mpv and mpc-hc both use mplayer2 at the core
mpv is based on the mplayer2 codebase, it's not a frontend/wrapper for mplayer2
mpc-hc is entirely different, it uses directshow

>>57192367
PATH is a variable which includes various paths to directories. If a program executable is in one of these directories, you can autocomplete and run it, no matter in which directory you are. Since programs are installed in one of these paths, you can autocomplete and run them without typing the full path.

>>57192367
No names get registered. They are recognized in the CLI because they get installed into directories that are in the PATH. Like /usr/bin dor example.

>The user configures where he wants to have his program, what path and what connections to create.
You could do that, you just need to configure and compile all your software yourself.
Most people don't want that and let their distros maintainers do the work for them.

You know, we are lazy after all.

>>57192338
>doesn't work with a tiling wm
But it works on i3, just not with compton.

I have a program which eats 100% CPU, how can I lower the priority of the program? I tried nice and renice, but it's still at 100%.

>>57192573
Priority won't do anything as long as you have enough spare resources, which you probably do.

>>57192593
Makes sense, thanks.

>>57192263
>Free Software = Can be audited
>Proprietary Software = Can't be audited
Bzzz false you have fallen for the RMS meme and its a meme.

You know what can be audited? Software that has its sources open so open source software can be audited.

Free software is by its own nature open software however there are other ways.

If a government forces that every single peace of code must have its source code made public then proprietary software is not open to auditing. Its open software however its not free software.
Yes the big houses(MS) will bitch and moan about it and
>muh freedoms
>muh business serest

After all you having access to a book and reading it can not prevent you form making a copy on a physical level only the gov stops you with regulations and copyrights.
And I bet in this new world there will be a lot of lawsuits about who copy pasted from who however the same is true for literature and its not a problem.

However you can stick auditing up your own ass.
you know what is the single most important thing you need?
Not open sours, not free software, its responsibility for the writers of the code!
Yes thats right kids even if all code is open it will change nothing if the people writing it can not be made responsible for their mistakes.

Every EULA has a line of you waving your right to make the devs responsible and its legal.
Change it and everything changes, MS fucks up they will go bankrupt from the lawsuits.
Today you can sue for millions over every crap, and no manufacturer can even make you sight a agreement where you wave your right to sue him over a flaw in his product.

Every industry from handles that have fallen of on toasters to cars, everyone is accountable except in the software industry.
Changing this would make software safe simply because the manufacturer would be accountable and unable to cut corners, there is no reason why the writers are exempt from this limitation and its strange.
This would fix everything and yet end the GPL.

>>57190891
i have a couple times, but i always get nasty replies, so i stopped

>>57192654
Sorry, son, but you are just a single person on this planet and therefore totally unimportant for the question at hand.

>>57192633
Having source code of a program doesn't automatically mean that you are allowed to remove malicious code from the program and to share the result with others.

Are there any special folder icons for the tango icon theme out there?

I just noticed they get all replaced with gnome icons.

>>57192633
tl;dr

>>57192633
Stop being so picky and making these huge shitposts. I feel like you're the author of every one of these multi-paragraph, overly verbose posts:
>>57192193
>>57192001
>>57191332
>>57191245
>>57190956
>>57190849
>>57190276

>>57192446
Thank you.
>>57192467
>No names get registered.
Sorry (I'm not a asshole here only informative) you need to open a dictionary and understand what the word registering means.
It irrelevant if the registering is in the file system or some binary/text file. They are recognized then they are registered.
>You could do that, you just need to configure and compile all your software yourself.
Or here is the crazy thing the DEB files (or whatever new format) can actually include a option for me to change it during the installation same way same way practically everything in windows installers lets you change its default path from C:/program files/fire fox to whatever you like.

>compile all your software
This is another bizarre thing, why is there no lets say graphical and nice looking compiler? like you have your source code packed into into a zip with some extra files that say the installer what to do and its extenuation is GUI.

So a user gets a .GUI file and they double click it and a window pups up like ins a windows installer only no next>next>next and you have all on one page like a .DEB where you can change the path and other things and you click a big button named COMPILE and the program compiles.

So all a normie needs to do is double click and press the big button named COMPILE even a windows user can get it.

So why did no one ever do it? Why is no one providing this? People in the GPL ecosystem are really their own worst enemy.

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How do I fix this Secure boot shit cucking me?

>>57192816
This guy is fucking fast with typing.

>>57192844
reboot?

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>>57192816
It is inadvisable to describe the free software community, or any human community, as an “ecosystem,” because that word implies the absence of ethical judgment.

The term “ecosystem” implicitly suggests an attitude of nonjudgmental observation: don't ask how what should happen, just study and understand what does happen. In an ecosystem, some organisms consume other organisms. In ecology, we do not ask whether it is right for an owl to eat a mouse or for a mouse to eat a seed, we only observe that they do so. Species' populations grow or shrink according to the conditions; this is neither right nor wrong, merely an ecological phenomenon, even if it goes so far as the extinction of a species.

By contrast, beings that adopt an ethical stance towards their surroundings can decide to preserve things that, without their intervention, might vanish—such as civil society, democracy, human rights, peace, public health, a stable climate, clean air and water, endangered species, traditional arts … and computer users' freedom.

>>57192737
>Having source code of a program doesn't automatically mean that you are allowed to remove malicious code from the program and to share the result with others.

True yet your question was about auditing.
I have pointed out that this is the difference between open source and free software something RMS is to autistic to say.

In another note having open source combined with the ability to sue the manufacturer would be far better since you can simply go to court and sue the living fuck out of MS and make them go bankrupt.

So MS has a couple of options
1)Rewrite their code and stay in business
2)Get sued out of existence and go bankrupt.

Lets remember that people have sued storage manufacturers simply because windows reports TiB under the name TB for unknown reasons.

You are acting like I am some shill for corporations and proprietary software and I'm not.

>>57192816
Please apply it to yourself
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/register
None of those describe the "some binary sits in a directory which is in the PATH"

>option for me to change it during the installation same way same way practically everything in windows

This is not Windows, and we are too lazy for this shit and the let the maintainers to that work for us.

>This is another bizarre thing, why is there no lets say graphical and nice looking compiler?
Compilers are already embedded into IDEs for the CLI-impaired.

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>>57192903
I'm retarded......

>>57192757
>tl;dr
Translation
>I'm to retarded to engage in long and intelligent discussion.

Pathetic retarded child go back on twitter and keep on writing
>you are gay
in you 200 character limit, adults are talking here.

>>57192803
>these huge shitposts

Same like before, learn to communicate you basement dwelling failure.

All you autists need to learn to actually construct some content instead of shitposting
>LOL TL;DR
> X is a meme
Or other Internet crap.
If yo u are not writing a long enough post everyone can knows you have nothing interesting to say and are only retarded.

>>57191378
>>57191510

Arch isn't a server OS. It's a general purpose operating system that you can turn into what you want.

>arguing with a memer
What am I doing with my life.

>>57192925
RMS shitposting

>>57193065
>that you can turn into what you want
except when you don't want systemd

>>57193065
>What am I doing with my life.
You're on 4chan, it's way too late to ask that question now

>>57193085
He's not wrong.

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This is a friendly thread, help a babby out.

Will a swap partition wear and tear my SSD? Is it even needed in 2016?

>>57193093

Then you should look into a different operating system.

>>57193065
>>Arch isn't a server OS
correct, it's a meme distro, used by kids who are too cool for noobuntu, but too stupid to gentoo

>>57193104
Yes he is extremely wrong.
Do you want a detailed explanation?

>>57193132

>i don't know what the defining features of a distribution are
>my only knowledge about anything stems from g memes that i parrot to other idiots to appear smart

>>57193143
yes please

>>57193057
I like having discussions, but no one wants to read your walls of text. Just split your posts into smaller bits or learn how to be more concise.

When I see your myriad of page-long posts, I don't feel like taking the effort/time to read through the whole thing and respond accordingly. I imagine many other people feel the same, and choose to ignore you. I took it a step further and told you how how annoying your style of posts are.

tl;dr: tl;dr

>>57193122
It won't negatively affect your SSD. It's only useful if you want the ability to put your PC in hibernation mode.

>>57193143
Please no.
>>57193153
Arch has no features.

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>>57193212
2 posts too early

>>57193234
Actually just one. Learn 2 math.

>>57188420
>>57192433
>well mpv and mpc-hc both use mplayer2 at the core
I'm pretty sure this sentence was intended to read “mpv and mpc-hc both use ffmpeg at the core”

>>57192473
It “works” but you don't see anything because the entire space is covered by windows

>>57187448
>tails