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This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch.

Required viewing for newbies:
https://youtu.be/508-rmdY4jQ

Strap guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

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>>57130615
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Obligatory Sub
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Is Invicta 8926 worth it or is just a meme?
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>tfw you've got your King Seiko 5256 back to running ~+0.0s/d
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>>57163172
Just buy a sub if you want a sub
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>>57163172
Not even a meme, it's just terrible.
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>>57163238
>tfw when your hi-beat Cosmotron is enroute

Now all that's left is to get a Khaki mechanical, a MM300 strap for my Monster and perhaps another interesting JDM piece.

>>57163172
Was only worth it's meme status as a modding platform, now even less since it's harder to remove all the Invicta logo's off it.
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>>57163309
>hi-beat Cosmotron

Nice!
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I got 150 for a watch.

Thinking of sapphire for the face for everyday wear.

Any recommendations?
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>>57163383
150usd btw
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>>57163383
>>57163392
Seagull
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Watch repair anon here. My kinda-audiophile dad built me a preamp for a piezo mic. Now I don't need to buy an expensive timegrapher to work. The amp works well but pops says he'll install a capacitor in to filter some noise, or something.

Also I got this program called tg that's seriously GOAT, and it's Free as in Freedom. Pic is my grandfathers Raketa 2609.HA running bretty gud.
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>>57163797
Neat.

Used to use my phone and an Seiko watch box that i nigger rigged to cancel outside sound. I'll build a newer setup at some point.

I do have my great-grandfathers type-1, but as it sits i'd rather not start playing around with it as it's not something i'd wear daily.

Though my grandfather also gave me an old franken Raketa his neighbor had that needs a new pallet fork, which i should have a donor for.

>>57163383
Assuming you don't mind trading sapphire for mineral, Orient Mako or Ray (MK.l is cheaper, MK.ll with the updated movement).
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Militat brand seems to be a popular choice for aftermarket SS bracelets for the SKX007, but there are so many versions/variations available on Amazon. If i go with this brand, should I just get the one with the highest number of reviews? According to camelcamelcamel, the prices on these pretty much never changes -- is this correct or can I expect a better price if I've got time to wait a bit?

Please recommend other SS bracelets for the SKX007 that are under $100.

Apologies for being such a Jewish. I am so poor and should not even be considering this purchase right now, but I can't help myself.
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>>57165036
The Miltat bracelets are very good and worth getting. They are 1000x better than the standard jubilee bracelet.

I've got one on my SKX009.
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runner here, dropping in from /fit/
what's a lightweight watch (lighter than f-91w, it's [current year] ffs) that can has basic functionality such as that of a stopwatch?
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>>57163172
Its great value, people will ask if it's a Rolex. As a watch enthusiast you shouldnt really care, the spec sheet is too good to pass up.

On a not so related note, damn: The Patriot
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>>57165862
>free dial font with that bezel
Why would you do this?
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>>57166053
Green font*
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hey /wt/, looking for some watch inspiration since your collective watch knowledge far exceeds mine. I'm looking for a field style watch, preferably khaki colored dial, under 40mm, at or under $200. I don't care about mechanical or quartz, I expect it to be quartz because of my budget constraints. I really like the Seiko SARG005 but it's way out of my price range. Any suggestions that don't include a weekender?
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>>57166371
SNK803
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>>57165752
The clock of the gym wall.

They tend to be everywhere.
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>>57166479
what's the quality on these like? for the price I might as well buy three but curious nonetheless
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>>57166544
They're the standard baby's first auto. They'll run for at least three years with pretty good accuracy (probably within 20s/d) then throw it away and buy another. No hacking, no handwinding, no sapphire. Stock strap is fine but not great; feel free to replace it (pic is not stock strap). There are hundreds of Seiko 5 styles and they're all good for the price (google seiko 5 finder) but this is the one that matches your criteria. You're unlikely to be disappointed by the quality for the price paid.

The next step up from Seiko 5 is Orient (though they don't really have much that's popular in field watches), followed by SARB (again, not field watches) or Hamilton Khaki.
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>>57166596
gotcha. thanks anon!
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>>57166646
Post pics when you get it
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>>57166071
Its a GMT
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>>57167428
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>>57167428
also, the one with that color scheme
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Which Vostok is best Vostok? I want the one with the diver dude on a blue dial but the pic related says it's not waterproof despite being a diver?? What the hell...

There are so many options, it's stressing me out. Is there a single "diver dude" model that is the most popular, and what do I search for on eBay to find it?
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>>57166486
except when you're, you know, not running in a gym, shitforbrains
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>>57168228
>getting a vintage watch and expecting it to be waterproof
They sell brand new ones. 090059, 420059, 710059.
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>>57168531
Thanks dude, I remember seeing the 420059 posted here a while ago and it's exactly what I'm looking for. Is the bezel the only difference between those three models?

I wasn't looking for a vintage watch but the infopic made me think the "diver dude" model was only available as a non-waterproof vintage.
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>>57167501
What?
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>>57168703
black/green bezel -> green text
red/blue bezel -> white text

poor taste is one thing, but lack of pattern recognition is on another level
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>>57168665
>Bezel
No, the case too. 420 for small, 090 for large and in charge.

There's a fuckload of models. That graphic only has a few.
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>>57168524
Then you need to beef up so you can manage to lift your arm under the weight a standard watch.
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>>57169990
no wearable technology should be the least noticeable possible
fuck you retarded tripfag
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What do you guys think of Tissot?
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>>57170006
>no wearable technology should be the least noticeable possible
Is this English?
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>>57170053
learn to read in commas you fucking dip
this is the internet not grammar school
go suck off your dog
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>>57170018
Mediocre in general. Tissot and Mido have some of the cheapest available chronometers though.
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>>57170069
Suggestions for good watch around 300 without chronometer?
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>>57170082
Could do a Seiko diver
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>>57165263
bro get some sun plz
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>>57166479
>>57166371
Snk805 is what you want btw
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>>57170082
Chronometer and chronograph are two different things
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>>57166371
SRP713
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>>57170065
>learn to read in commas
>doesn't use commas
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>>57169063
The 420 case is pretty comfy, as a guy with a 7.25inch wrist.

Just need to need to get a new perlon as the current one is already too worn.
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>>57170111
I'm a Britfag, we don't get sunshine.
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>>57170628
>tfw Captain Picard is 76 and will probably die in a few years

>>57170693
You britfags don't really have much left to brag about in your country. With a few exceptions...
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So i've been thinking of getting a Junkers 6050. What other options are there at that price range?
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>>57170693
We get enough for you to get a tan, and this is coming from a damned Welshman. Just get outside once in a while m8.
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>>57169626
Is NOMOS the only respectable watch maker that does Bauhaus right?
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>>57170065
>>57170006
>>57168524
>>57165752
Fuck right back off to /fit/, you blabbering Untermensch.
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>>57165752
>less than 22 grams
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>>57171589
I find it hilarious that fags from fit are looking for something;
L I G H T
I
G
H
T

W E I G H T
E
I
G
H
T

-to wear, what's wrong cunts, can't take the immense weight of 150 grams on your wrist?
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>>57171655
He could draw a watch on his wrist with a permanent marker.
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>>57171730
Why is that watch on a succulent?
That's where watches go, anon.
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>>57171771
>That's not where watches go
Pretty pictures sell.
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>>57166596
Exactly this. I'm new and possess a lovely little SNK.

And for my next purchase I hesitate between these 3. I really like the field watch style, but I recognize the more classical Bambina and SARB are beatiful.

I'd say this is the classical /wt/ journey. Only /wt/ tho, I've been lurking other communities and some are very different.... For these other communities all watches under 2000 bucks are shitters, nasty nasty shitters.
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>>57168228
I'm really satisfied by my Komandirskie Tank.

40 bucks on Amazon, although I wan you it feels a bit like a cheap watch.

However some pricier Vostok seem more like quality watches.

There's also Vostok Europe, which is another company (but partly owned by Vostok IIRC). They have some great watches but they are more around 200/300 bucks.

Anyways.
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Thoughts on the Glycine Combat 6, and Glycine in general?
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>>57171935
Glycine is not a well known brand.

I know someone who has one and he highly recommends it.

Personally, I think some of their watches are absolutely gorgeous.

Love the Combat 6.
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>>57171935
It's an old Swiss brand that is now owned by Invicta.
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>>57171668
He doesn't want to develop muscle imbalances man.
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>>57172766
Then he can wear a bangle on the other wrist.
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>>57171575
Junghans I suppose.
Stowa and Rodina definitely aren't respectable.
Mondaine kind of counts I suppose.
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>>57171889
A lot of people go for divers too. Many SKX007 and Orient Ray/Mako owners around here.
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>>57171935
They make 24hr watches, which I suppose is interesting. Not many other thoughts.
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Is it true that when you lay vertically your auto when u sleep, it slows down the movement?

Ima try this on my seiko, it's running real fast.
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>>57173362
On average most movements are more accurate in the face-up position, so generally when you take it off to sleep, you would put it face up, not thinking about it.
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>>57173362
Depends on the movement, but usually crown up position would slow it down compared to face up.
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>>57173400
>>57173440
Thanks

How accurate are your autos, in general? And Seiko in particular?
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>>57163113
>
a poor mans rolex
lol
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Is this worth getting? You can get something like a used Tudor Pelagos in the same price range right which comes with a regulated movement?
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>>57173528
My 2824 Elaboré runs well within the spec, on average +5s/day on wrist.

Amphiba..Well. you get what you pay for.

Orient Marshall, haven't worn in some weeks. But would see around +6-9s/day
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>>57173604
Tudors in that range are more so fashionable divers.
Whereas that Seiko is nearer the tool end of the spectrum.
So it's up to you.
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>>57173604
>paying 3 grands for an unregulated movement

Don't do this.
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>>57163113
looks nice
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Just got this for 11€ shipped on an eBay auction. It's a Soviet era Vostok Komandirskie, this shitty pic is the only one available. It apparently works well and keeps time well, did I fuck up?
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>>57175997
is aight
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>>57175997
It looks kinda rough. You still might be able to find NOS Soviet Komandirskies on Ebay, but not for 11€ of course.
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>>57175997
eh, for that price, if it does work that's not bad.
a new crystal is $4 on meranom, i don't know if it fits the vintage models though. or you could polish this one if it's acrylic
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>>57176104
>>57176123
>>57176190

thanks guys, I wan to believe that the pic is really bad and the watch looks acceptable in person.
Since the glas is acrylic it will be easy as fuck to polish. For the price I can't complain and I can always resell it without losing money.
Pic related is a NOS example of the same model, kinda cute.
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>>57175997
>>57176252
The dial seems dirty/scratched yet not faded and the lume on the hand is broken, but for 11euroshekels i've seen worse.
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>>57176292
>The dial seems dirty/scratched
I'd be surprised if it was the dial and not the crystal.
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>>57168917
I was just pointing out where the green text comes from.
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Whats your guys' opinion on smart watches? I'm considering picking up a Pebble 2.
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>>57163797
Ultra high end high reliability equipment use continuous audio analysis to catch, detect and classify problems before they become catastrophic. Things like turbines, generators, jet engines etc. stuff that just must work.

By analysing audio you can determine what wheel or bearing has a problem. Strange this is not used for checking watches.

For this you need full bandwidth audio, and compare a finger print of a good device with that of actual running measurement. You don't want much filtering for this.
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>>57173604
>>57173656

Even better, paying $3k for an in regulated movement in a monoblock case! That way you can neither feasibly regulate it yourself not take it to someone to regulate without it costing a fortune.

>accuracy doesn't matter bro

Then buy a turtle, monster or sumo you mong.
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>>57176988
>By analysing audio you can determine what wheel or bearing has a problem. Strange this is not used for checking watches.
It is used, you just gotta recognize the fault from the pattern. Rule of thumb is the farther you go from the balance wheel the harder it is to notice faults. A dirty pallet jewel or any problem with the escape wheel is very easy to spot, but a second wheel problem not so much.

Refer to the manual of the B200 Vibrograf for the interpretation of different patterns. There are scanned .pdf-s of it all around the net.
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>>57176974
mostly we don't give a fuck about them
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>>57177155
i don't think that's a rabbit

>>57177083
>movement/accuracy is all that matters in a watch
this meme needs to stop right now
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This is what I normally wear. US military issue. Simple. Durable. Mechanical.

I just have to remember to wind it every other day.
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>>57177456

It's not ALL that matters, but I'm sure as hell not paying three grand for a watch with a movement that I cannot regulate myself.

The post-quartz revolution notion that accuracy doesn't matter is pure marketing hog wash from companies too lazy to put any engineering effort whatsoever into their movements.

It's why we don't have any volume produced movements today that are substantially more accurate than volume produced movements in the 1970s like the ETA 2892-A2, Omega 56x/75x, Shrimp 52xx and Rolex 303x.
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>>57173546
Nice b8 m8
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>>57177540
But you said
>>accuracy doesn't matter bro
>Then buy a turtle, monster or sumo you mong.
which is implying that the only reason someone would get an MM300 is the improved accuracy...
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>>57177476
>US military issue
nope
it's still nice though, tritium tubes are always good
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>>57177476
Winding every day will give me consistent accuracy
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>>57177476
>>57177696
>>57177717
enjoy your cancer.
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>>57177675

You're unfamiliar with the concept of exaggeration for effect? Hyperbole?

You're going to defend paying $3,000 for a watch specced to run between -10s/d and +15s/d?
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I normally find the SARB033 insanely boring, but holy shit look at that! Why did domed acrylic fall out of favor with modern watches again? This one mod instantly turned the watch from "don't care" to "do want" for me.
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>>57177901
Interesting idea.

Might do that on my Cosmotron, as it needs a new crystal anyhow.
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>>57177989
It does good for the Seiko 5 too. Wonder what other current watches could be modded like this.
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>>57178438
Pretty much anything really.

Generic aftermarket acrylic crystals are easy to find, and assuming you find ones that have the correct diameter and can be held in place by the same method it shouldn't be too hard. I'm kinda banking that the one guy i got to for such simple works has a pretty big stock of them, else the Cosmotron is going to have a nasty scratch all over the crystal.

Shame though, since there is no chance for a new faceted crystal.

I also got a SARB enroute, but i doubt i'll do such a mod for it.
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>>57177901
Domed crystals fell out of favourite because they were mostly made of acrylic, and any watch with an acrylic crystal nowadays is mocked relentlessly. See: Komandirskie. So, most manufactures include mineral or sapphire crystal, but it is insanely hard to shape sapphire into a dome, at least if you are trying to keep costs reasonable. But yes, generally I do lament the demise of domed crystals as well.
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Im new to watches and love em to death.

However it cant be a hobby for me. À hobby consisting only in buying stuff doesnt fit the Bill, I néed to play with it, be a geek and everythin.

Or i need to start fixing and moding em.

What do you think?
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>>57178665
Simple really
>Buy good tools, not cheap crap
>READ, WATCH VIDEOS, AND LEARN BEFORE DOING STUPID CRAP
>Enjoy yourself.

I had quite a bit of fun playing with these old Soviet Raketa's, as i usually destroyed them really quickly while worn and i had a lot of spare ones for parts.

Got two right now, one from the spares pile that i forgot to sell and one franken that my grandfather gave me that needs a pallet fork from said parts watch.
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>>57178665
sure, do that if you want
buy a $10 mechanical on ebay (old soviet, pajeet special hmt, or chink) and a toolkit, and start experimenting.
Make a fifty-five fathoms. Mod an snk809 with parts from yobokies.
Build your own chrono from off the shelf parts and a 7750 like one anon did.
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>>57176974
Smartwatches in the watch world are like apple phones in the phone world: they're unexciting, bland, pricey tous for nasty nasty fags
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I hope this isn't a dumb question but i tried to google it without success, is there any difference within a f91w-1S and 3S?
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>>57178922
2
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>>57173019
What's wrong with Rodina? It's perfect for a poorfag like me
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>>57178752
did you semi skeletonize an 2209HA or is it a different movement?
if so that p cool senpai
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>>57179177
Do you think it classifies for "respectable watchmaker" though?
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>>57179226
yea, guess not now that i think about it.
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>>57178665
Vintage watch collecting is 95% learning and searching, 5% buying. If you're interested.

Like you could go get yourself a good condition American made Hamilton or Benrus. Maybe even one that was issued in Vietnam or WWII
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>>57179192
>2209HA
The fuck are you talking about?

No, that's a somewhat uncommon 2627 that had a bent hairspring. I replaced the entire balance assembly since i already had it from the pile of semi destroyed 2609's. Picture is mid process after i removed the hairspring and autowinder.

Here's a 2609 that was mostly okay and was regulated to run decently, until i wrecked it per usual. And as said, i have a habit of destroying Raketa's, so i usually avoid buying and or touching them.
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>>57179327
the gear train bridge on that 2627 pic looks as if its the same part from the 2609 but with a bit cut out, which may actually be the case, (russian engineering kek) i thought you did it yourself.
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>>57179510
That's correct.

It's a good and simple engineering solution though, simply modifying and existing movement and it both allowing for automatic winding and handwinding.

The parts between the 26XX cal Raketas are interchangeable as they are basically built on the same platform, which leads to obvious advantages.

As far as i recall the new modern Raketa's are made on a slightly modified 2627 Raketa movement.
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>>57179696
i think modern raketa actually makes some watches with the original 2609 in them.
god new raketas are ridiculusly expensive and ugly though.
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>>57179816
Among things.

Their Raketa Amphibia model is the only one i recall that uses a modified 2627 movement.

Oh and yeah, with an ex department manager of Rolex at the helm the prices are self explained.
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>>57179816
>>57179884
>luxury prices
>18000bph
It's going to be a harsh wake up when reality slaps them in the face and they'll have to close down for another twenty years.
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>>57179884
you mean this guy?
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What's a nice watch around $100?

I like leather straps

t. I know nothing about watches
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>>57180153
Help us out at least.

What styles do you like?
Infact, don't even answer.
Look on Amazon for "Seiko 5" find one you like.
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>>57180190
https://www.amazon.com/Seiko-SNZG09K1-Analog-Automatic-Canvas/dp/B005NYLO08/ref=sr_1_6?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1477088334&sr=1-6&nodeID=6358540011&keywords=Seiko+5

or

https://www.amazon.com/Seiko-SNN241-Stainless-Steel-Leather/dp/B0044XDZII/ref=sr_1_10?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1477088334&sr=1-10&nodeID=6358540011&keywords=Seiko+5

Pretty cool
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>>57180216
go for whichever you prefer.
I'm not a fan of chronographs anyway, but my taste should have no impact on your choice.
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>>57180216
Google Seiko 5 Finder
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>>57180153
As said by, >>57180190

Get a Seiko 5 you like, and buy a leather strap for it separately.
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>>57177476
>having to wind a watch
>in the year of our lord Jesus Christ, MMXVI

Get with the times, grandpa. Get one of these Osama-approved babies and you'll have a watch that's just as compact, simple, and even more durable due to not having mechanical shit in it. Oh, and you won't have to keep reminding yourself to wind that shit up every day or get fucked otherwise.
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>>57177739
>lowest energy beta emitter
>ever coming into contact with you
ayy lmao
not to mention based radiation hormesis
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2 watch collection.

I have a GMT master II

Next is a dress watch. Either a lange moonphase or I'll save some money and get a calatrava. Really want that lange.
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Why are nylon watch straps so popular? It soaks up sweat, inadvertent urinal/toilet splashback, and other nasty liquids, and needs time to dry after a wash. NATO and Zulu straps are so fumbly and burdensome with all the rings and needing to fold the end to tuck in. Is it because James Bond used them? Is it /fa/?

I just tried it for a month and am now back on my silicone strap and couldn't be happier. Please explain the reason for their popularity because I am stumped!
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>>57180676
They're way more secure and durable than rubber/polymer/silicone and even most leather ones. I'm a militaryfag, so I need a strap that can withstand some shit, and NATOs/Zulus are the way to go. The 5 ring setup is great for keeping the watch tight and secure on your wrist, provided you're not a retard and know how to set it up properly, and if you need to fold the end, then the strap is too long for you. Oh yeah, and if it's hot outside, you wrist won't get sweaty under a nylon strap, so that's another bonus.

Also, James Bond is absolutely a factor as well. Even though all my straps are either olive or khaki.
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Should I get this for my mdv-106?
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>>57180812
I'd go for the Bond black/gray one, but otherwise yeah.
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Will the Seiko Turtles introduced last year ever drop close to the $150 price that the SKX007 was commonly sold for and how long do you think it will take?
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>>57180856
yes, 3 yers
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>>57178628
is domed sapphire really so expensive, they aren't uncommon
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>>57181053
Generally speaking sapphire isn't considerably expensive in manufacturing, but like all things on a watch, a $1 increase in manufacturing/labour is going to see about a $50+ increase in price.

Basically they are definitely HARDER and MORE expensive to make than acrylic/mineral domed, and will cost more because of that. They aren't, however, $50+ more expensive to make, but you can be sure you'll be charged at the very least that much more.
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>>57181053
I call BS. So many domed sapphire replacements available on eBay for around $100 or less from reputable sellers.
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>>57181227
A decent sapphire domed crystal can be had for around $50 from a cheap seller. Imagine what manufacturers are paying (It's probably more than a lot less).

Orient has sapphire crystal watches with in house movements and well finished dials for under $200.

Point being: all watches have a huge markup. No, Rolex doesn't spend anywhere near what you pay to manufacture one of their watches.

Sapphire is usually just an excuse for watch makers to charge a shit ton more for what is less than a $15 increase in manufacturing cost.
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I bought this. It is my first nice watch. How bad did I do?
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>>57181537
Very bad
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>>57177901
You'd think with speedies also using a tall acrylic dome it'd come back in style nowadays.

More acrylic domes, please watchmakers.
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>>57181537
That red looks p. ugly
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>>57181053
Well the crystals are produced as rods of sapphire which for a flat crystal can be just sliced to thickness and finished. To create a domed one, you need a thicker slice (less crystals per rod) and then you have to machine the dome which requires special equipment due to the incredible hardness of the material so significant added costs there as well. Of course those additional costs are passed on to the consumer.
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>>57181638

Fuck I love the way speedmasters look, but that dick and balls at the 12 hour mark bothers me for some reason.
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>>57181840
Somehow aevig manages to get a decently tall sapphire dome on a <$500 watch.
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>>57181979
How much is it really domed on the underside though? Even on the top side it looks mostly chamfered, rather than domed.

And to mention for the wider crystal discussion going on, not all sapphires are created equal. With microfissures and slight optical imperfections, you end up with very different sapphire crystals on 100 dollar quartz compared to 10k watches.

And then you can get into the different anti-reflective coatings
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>>57182699
Sell your credor and buy some glasses
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>>57182902
I have glasses, but I use them for distance.

Are you mad that this isn't a dome?
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>>57182976
The watch I'm wearing for comparison. Little more.. uh, domed.
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>>57182699
I've handled the actual watch, and the dome is taller than that pic would suggest (even above the chamfer). Not quite as nice of a dome as the hesalite speedy or vintage pieces, but still.
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Feels good to be the classiest lad in this thread
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Anything that looks as good as this?
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>>57183028
Dogshit
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>>57183028

Model number?
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>>57183046
It was $16 lol

>>57183056
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JVP0LE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Thoughts on this Chinese made assembled in USA brand?
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>>57183070
16 bucks down the drain, now all you have is dogshit
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>>57183070

That's a good price.
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>>57183076
they look ok, wouldn't pay that kinda money for some chinese quartz though, maybe 100 bucks tops
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>>57183041
That's beautiful
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>>57183070
>It was $16 lol
could have gotten either of these two far superior Casios for less than that
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How do people justify paying this much? It should cost way more than it's sold for.
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>>57183070
wtf, those Casio's were 10 3 years ago
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>>57183147
The shogun is like $700 everywhere, you'd be dumb as fuck to buy one for 1200
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>>57183131
The left two are literally meme tier, the middle one is a joke, like something a poorfag who is pretending he's not a poorfag would wear, and the left one is too flashy for its own good with shitty materials.
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>>57183173
*right two
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Pity it's too big for me
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>>57183173
The Mako USA 2 is a great watch, there aren't any shitty materials involved.
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>>57183173
>The left two are literally meme tier
you're a towel
> the middle one is a joke, like something a poorfag who is pretending he's not a poorfag would wear
>implying active people wear expensive shit just to break it
>too flashy for its own good with shitty materials.
it's got a sapphire crystal, screw down crown, drilled lugs, and solid end links, and an "in house" movement made in japville
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>>57177083
You Seiko shills are so fucking hilarious.
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>>57183242
w h y
h
y
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>>57183324
looks like something a mentally disabled leprachaun would wear
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>>57182976
It is a dome you spastic cunt, just because the edge is chamfered doesn't mean it isn't domed

Fuck you are a stupid cunt

Post the crystal on your credor gay cunt
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copped this today in NY for $20. interesting little watch and fills the aesthetic niche i wanted on a whim. seems to be of pretty decent quality, dunno if it's legit or not. anyone able to provide more info?
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>>57183365
call the pope because we just found a miracle
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>>57176974

When a smart watch arrives that can run for 6+ months from a single charge then give me a call.

Until then it's half-baked BS for those who possess lots of disposable income but little self con...oooh look at that shiny shiny
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>>57183351
I didn't say there's no dome to the crystal. I asked how domed the underside is and said the top side looks mostly chamfered.

Sorry if you can't handle that, being a delicate flower and all.
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>>57183395
what an entirely arbitrary period of time. mechanical watches have to be "recharged" constantly. are you saying you simply lack the time required to charge it? or are you just being a contrarion cunt
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>>57183365
>>57183379
samefag
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>>57183429
Recharging a mechanical watch doesn't interrupt use or wear, or is even done passively during wear.
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>>57183453
>interrupt use or wear
if you're not autistic enough to sleep with your watch on, charging will never interrupt normal use or wear
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>>57183076
absolutely gorgeous watches dishonestly sold at a crazy expensive price.

cheap ronda movements assembled with Chinese cases, hands and dials but assembled by Shiniqua Washington for 800 shekels.

I would happily pay 800 dollars for an in house, decently finished quartz movement with an american made case and dial.

jew/10
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>>57183365
wew lad that's some legit la raza dogshit
Looks like a common decent Citizen in nigger gold coloring with a custom Mexican Virgin Mary dial, I had never seen the later before though, must be because I live in Mexico and not in Los Angeles
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>>57183488
Yeah until you go to a part of the world without readily available power or camping or something.
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Anyone else /dbc/?
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>>57183536
and stay there for weeks? i think pebble watches have 7 day battery life, some models 10 days. if you literally can't find electricity for 10 days, just bring a different watch. not exactly an argument, unless for some equally arbitrary reason, you only ever plan to buy one watch ever..
you sound really stupid m8
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>>57183588
>and stay there for weeks?
Sure, why not?

You going stick to adventures you can only finish in a weekend?
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>>57183588
>you sound really stupid m8
Wouldn't be the first time.

I almost thought he had forgotten about me, but then I remembered that not one but two people have to address every single post I make. It's a warm feeling.
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>interested in Nomos
>Check WatchBuys
>Over $1500 more expensive than on competing websites

It's not like that with the other watches they sell. Usually it's within $500 of their competitor.

What's the deal ?
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>>57183274

If you think the post you quoted is shilling for Seiko, you may want to work on your reading comprehension a little bit.
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>>57183631
>You going stick to adventures you can only finish in a weekend?
Well I have a job, so..
Seriously your fringe scenarios are retarded. What about smart watches makes you so upset? And your comment about disposable income, as if smartwatches are any more expensive than any nominal automatic. Even Apple JeWatch 2 is only like 350 bucks. in the realm of watches, are you telling me that's expensive? and that's irrespective of its functionallity
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>>57183446
Thanks babe. So, what's on your wrist today.
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>>57183711
>Well I have a job
Need a better one if you can't take vacations.

>What about smart watches makes you so upset?
Nothing. But they are low quality, cheap toys of mostly invented or little use.

>And your comment about disposable income,
I didn't make such a comment.
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>>57183510
I love it hahahahahaha it seemed to be too highly detailed to be a fake of such a common low-price watch but yeah, seems to be decent, wonder how long the gold coloring will last. Seems to be of pretty decent quality
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More evidence that mechanical watchmaking peaked between 1970-1975.
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>>57183774
>Need a better one if you can't take vacations.
i work in the medical field, I gotta stay on top of it
>low quality, cheap toys of mostly invented or little use.
the apple watch seems pretty great, and it's a fucking watch, with about a million other features, that costs no more, and often much less than other typical conventional wristwatch offerings
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>>57183820
>over a 3 day period
wew lad, what great statistics
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>>57183827
Doctors have gone on Safaris.

That being said, modern medical organizations often require more documented ongoing training and learning from doctors outside of the office, so I understand.

Also I don't know why you're bringing up costs again. But the usefulness of the Apple watch is vastly overstated.
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>>57183842

The last long run of +0.0s was 14 days. I want to see if I can beat it this time.

In any case, it's the lack of measurement to measurement variation I find interesting. Last time I timed a long run with my 1975 King Seiko Special 5256-8010 it tended to gain about 1s overnight and lose it while worn to net +0s/d.

Now it's just running ~+0 both on and off the wrist. I wonder how long it will keep it up this time.
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I have an old watch with a quartz movement made in Germany in 1975. It's no longer running and I want to fix it. Should I attempt a DIY or just take it to a shop?

Is it even possible to do myself? Would it be possible to find a replacement for this movement because I can't find the exact same on for obvious reasons?
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>>57184096
Unless you know what you're doing it's better to take it in to a good watchmaker.
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>>57183820
>Rogers

I feel sorry for ya, mate. At least your watch and stock Android counter-act the cuckoldry.
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>>57184567

Yeah, Canada sucks for mobile carriers, but I do have access to one hell of a watchmaker in Southern Ontario as consolation.
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>>57184712
There are at least two I've only seen praise for here. One being shane, the other being al of archer watches in london.
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Just got a colareb strap, this feels very light and rubbery, maybe I don't know what leather feels like but this doesn't feel like leather
Very disappointed
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>>57184721

I meant Shane as I haven't dealt with Al personally.
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>>57163113
fake
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>>57163309
did you buy this from hosoirenmei?
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Requesting that anon that said they were gonna buy a vacheron for pics
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>>57183722
How are you liking your redraft anon-kun? I am really digging it as a beater everyday watch. Kinda wish it had hacking and winding though, that big crown is just asking to be wound.

PS: don't mind the freedoms.
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Should I replace this watch?
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>>57169063

>chatpad

do people use this outside of searching youtube videos on your xbone?
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>>57184766
Feel like all the big brands are just bullshit. My most leather like straps have been the cheaper ones. I did find a a real vintage leather strap, it has no padding, its just authentic double sided leather. Things were really better before anon
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>>57183028

I cannibalized the strap from this and put it on my g-shock becuase it;s a bit more pliable
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>>57185825
Why, is it not working anymore?
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Is this a good bargain for around $3,200 used? Looking for something to upgrade from my SKX009.
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>>57186880
I always found that plain blue visually quite annoying. These would be nicer with some subtle sunburst effect.
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>>57186952
I thought it already has one?
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>>57186968
Proofs? I don't really think so.
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>>57183173
>middle one
In a group of four.
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As much as i was gunning for a Hamilton Khaki mechanical, it was a bit too hard to get in a decent price. (And the Turtle to be available at sub 300$)

Though for 120$ shipped, this one was a bit too hard to pass.
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>>57187450
Too bad it doesn't have a GMT hand like the original astronaut.
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>>57187486
True, the GMT hand could have been nice.

Though think Bulova did a better job on the Astronaut homage than the Spaceview homage.
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>>57181537
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>>57187575
>what day is it?
>tree
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>>57188396

Kek
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>>57188396
>what day is it?
>Sun

I don't see the difference
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This watch just popped up on massdrop, thoughts?
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>>57189632
Looks like uninspired chinkshit with a cheap quartz movement.
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>>57177476
24 on the dial with no GMT hand is just useless noise. I like the tidy design but that part is unforgivable. Just how stupid do they think people are?
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>>57191424

Please tell me this is b8
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>>57191551
He's right tho
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>>57189632
Aside from the occasional Seiko divers and alpinists, everything on massdrop is fucking garbage. When it comes to non-watches, same thing, good stuff once in a while, the rest is overpriced hipster horseshit.

Don't even get me started on $99 spinning tops.

They should rename it memedrop.
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>>57191639

The maratac mid pilots were once a good deal on massdrop.
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>>57183365
>fills the aesthetic niche i wanted on a whim
Which??
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>>57191729

The Mexican drug cartel middle manager aesthetic
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>>57183711
>What about smart watches makes you so upset?
Not him but the needless short battery lifetime is annoying.

Root cause is that programmers these days are mostly spuds. They could not write efficient code if their lives depended on this. The smartwatch manufacturers realise this sad state of affairs so the watches typically have
- 1 GHz CPU when 1 MHz would be enough
- 64 bit when 8 bit would be enough
- about 1 GB RAM when 1 MB would be enough

With a more austere system the battery would have lasted 5 years easily, more if you also go for betavoltaics along with your tritium.

I have been an embedded programmer and this segment really has gone to pot.

I also go for long journeys at sea or in the mountains and have had to navigate by the sun and the stars. A smartwatch would have been convenient but not with what we have today.
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>>57191551
>Please tell me this is b8
Nope, just my frank opinion. Who are so stupid they need a dial to tell them that 10 o'clock at night is 22 hours?

Tidyness is a quality. Too many watches are overloaded with useless stuff. Divers tend to be particularly bad. Like 1000 ft = 300 m. If you dive you should know that already or arrange for a meeting with Darwin.
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Do you like my watch.
My phone is dumb and won't let me rotate.
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Need new NATO, something high quality, durable and bomb proof, what would you recommend?

Previously got Rhinos from Watchfactors, but willing to try something new for comparison.
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>>57192453
Did minute hands cost extra?
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>>57192510
tower.time on eBay.

Nobody else sells 3mm thick zulu straps, at least not as cheaply.
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>>57191639
Victorinox stuff tends to drop for %50 RRP if not more. I think a drop just ended a few days ago on the Infantry.
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>>57191591
>>57191933

You realize that Marathon makes their watches to U.S. Military specifications, right?
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>>57192666
Nice trips

Perhaps the U.S. Military have designed the watches not for aestethics, but for the lowest common denominator?
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>>57192587
First time I hear about "3mm" thick straps, judging by the pictures, they're just average thick NATOs, except shorter, and with bent hollow tubes as rings that I doubt are soldered. No wonder they're cheap.

So where are the expensive NATOs?
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>>57192809
Just get one from Phoenix straps. Excellent quality for $10-20.

Otherwise, you may get a nato strap from Omega, Tudor, or IWC for a few hundred bucks.
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>>57192809
Well, >>57192865 is most right. Phoenix straps are great as well.

Though from my experience they are very good quality for the shekels, especially being as thick as they are.
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>>57192453
>hey anon, what time is it
>something past 8.00pm
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>>57192535
>>57193002

This is a problem I actually have, I have to look really closely to see the minutes :s
Still like it tho.
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>>57192453
I like it, brand/model?
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>>57185606
If you can tell me how this is fake i'll believe you
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>>57162881
>appreciation of watches
i'm 12 and what is this?
>>
Citizen Promaster or Orient Ray/Mako II
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>>57192865
>>57192934

Well Phoenix is more of a mid-range quality. Actually, did you know Rolex sells Phoenix "admiralty straps" in their stores as "Rolex NATOs"? They put some in display in stores with frailed ends and poorly sealed holes. They go for about 30CHF, and they were all the rage last summer in Switzerland, and people actually bought those. Shameful desu.

It's not like making NATO straps is hard or anything, it's just nylon, steel, needles and lasers, and the quality ceiling is quickly reached even with $20 straps, but some insist on cutting down costs and selling their horseshit for like $15, while others like Tudor act like it's hand-woven by longe-nosed elves in the high mountains of Sion (nice buckles though).

Timefactor is the highest quality I tried (slightly better than Maratac), but here are the ones I'm eyeing and that seem great quality:
>Toxic NATOs
>GasGasBones (nice customized buckles)
>Gnomon
>The Strap Shop
Also Timefactor has dank rings on its latest NATOs, pic related.

That's the kind of quality I'm looking for, nothing too expensive, but not dogshit either.
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>>57193002
>hey anon, what time is it
>october

Fucking Americans.
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Lumeposting
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>>57195799

You're hand to wrist ratio is so weird.
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>>57191832

My negro
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>>57194253
Where can I get a NATO strap with Perlon material?
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>>57183711
>>57191832
I wish smart watches were never made. I don't outright hate them or anything, but I think they are stupid. Why not just get a digital watch? No joke, the F-91W is a better buy in this case, or a g-shock

>let me buy a watch that can only tell me the time for a few hours
lol
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What is the go to g-shock?

Is it the DW-9052, or the DW5600E?
Can I keep a g-shock on 24/7, even in the shower or in rain?
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Just changed the strap to a cheap leather one. What she's /g/ think?
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>>57198102
This was the old one I took off.
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>>57198062
Does anyone have the ultra slow motion version of this video where it shows the oscillation?
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What's a good looking under $50 analog watch? I'd prefer quartz watches over any other.
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>>57172839
>>57172766
>>57171668
>>57171655
look at all these chucklefucks pretending that weight reduction isn't desirable
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>>57180580
>F-91W
only fits children or manlets

That being said, I bought one as an affront to the infidels. Considering spending more on a NATO strap than the watch cost.
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>>57171935

I've got a Combat Sub and it's my favourite watch. Very thin and a perfect size.
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>>57183365
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>>57198142
Here m8.
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>>57198524
>>57198142
>>57198062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSNVy7FeL3g
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>>57164018
What are those fabric straps? The stitching on the two in the 2nd column is slick and they look super high quality
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>>57198753
Perlon.
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>>57198406
>weight reduction
>not making GAINZ
>not eating big to get big
>not taking 3 scoops
>not taking 2 scoops per scoop
Not going to make it buddy
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>>57198524
Thanks a bunch m8.
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>>57185772
Make watches great again. While the lack of features on the movement bugs me, I can't help but love the sunburst dial and the design as a whole. Doesn't get enough wrist time, but every time I put it on it's a joy.
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>>57198257
Might be just over but Timex expedition
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>>57197097
The go to G-shock is whatever one you think is the coolest looking.

They're all watches you can dive with, so no worries about showering or rain. Pick whatever one you think is the coolest in your price range and you'll be happy.
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>>57186880
What does /wt/ think of the Heritage Black Bay Black? I think the smaller size should fit my 6.8" wrist better since the SKX009 is already pushing it in terms of width.
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>>57200179
If you like the styling and don't care about the fact it's using an ETA, why would you care about what /wt/ thinks?

Personally the gold indices and silver body clashing bugs the fuck out of me. The red one doesn't bug me as much because the red tends to overpower the gold, that and the blue bezel one doesn't have the issue at all.

Styling wise I prefer the Mako II/Ray II from Orient, just less to complain about.
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>>57200267
for some reason i was thinking of the older black bays, the new one doesn't use an ETA
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>>57200267
I'm generally inexperienced in this so I sought /wt/'s experience in this matter. It's just that choosing a watch in this price range is tricky.

If I have a larger wrist I would choose the SBDX017 in a heartbeat but after trying it yesterday in a Seiko AD, it's a tad too big and top-heavy for my wrist.
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>>57200302
Honestly above around $1500 all you're paying for is styling, so just get something that looks good and isn't clearly a ripoff. The Tudor is great btw, apparently the brand new ones using their in-house movement are COSC certified, if that matters to you.

Also if you haven't heard of them check out Marathon, rated for 300m, but they look VERY tool-like. They're about as utilitarian as a watch gets.
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>>57200179
Overpriced for what it is
Better to save a little and get a sub or seamaster
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>>57200342
>Honestly above around $15 all you're paying for is styling

ftfy

Because for "reasons" watchfags refuse to put a lot of money in quartz, brands are hesitant to make expensive quartz watches and by extension, good looking quartz watches. Even though the prices of most seem to out weight those "reasons", but whatever.

Meanwhile normies are fooled into buying smartwatches whose first generations became obsolete after a year, and dogshit like Fossil- ironically they don't hesitate to put a lot of money in quartz, but then all they pay for is marketing.

The true redpill is to get a nice-looking Casio analog or a cheap mechanical like a Vostok.
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>>57200710
Honestly I agree with you 100%, but I also understand people who love mechanical. Personally I buy a watch for it's looks and reliability.

Basically any quartz made my Seiko/Citizen/Casio is going to last AT LEAST 25 years without any service at all, and i'll likely have trashed it before then because I much prefer to actually have fun in life than worry about babying my mechanical because the toughest mechanical movements are surprisingly the cheapest (I'd take a Seiko, Miyota or Orient over an ETA any day) and even those are going to get fucked up by a small magnet.
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>>57200179
>paying 3 grands for an ETA movement

Why would anyone do this, I don't get it.
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>>57201051
Because SWISS OMG ROLEX PLS. ETAs are dogshit, literally any hacking Japanese movement will outperform them in every test.

Even though they're mass produced garbage watch collectors still like them because they can pretend the "swiss made" badge actually means something still, even though they're more overproduced and worst performing than many Japanese models.
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>>57201155
Seiko shill detected.
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>>57201162
I'm a shill for not paying 200% more for a watch just because it says "swiss made" and has a ETA movement in it. Say what you like but there's next to no horological importance with an ETA, so you might as well just get something better that's cheaper (and in the case of Orient, are actually made in house)
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>>57201155
ETA movements can have bretty gud accuracy, my most accurate watch has a 70's 2783. Too bad handwinding is shit, I believe even Vostoks 2416b has a better crown wheel design.
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>>57200267
Wouldn't the red version be better?
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>>57201206
Accuracy is fine in most modern mechanicals. If you really want to argue pure accuracy i'd just stick with quartz.

What i'm mostly talking about is that fact that you'll find a better power reserve, and more efficient movement in any SARB or better Seiko, any hacking Miyota, and basically all of Orients hackable movements.

Not to mention Swatch constantly putting limits on the movements being shipped to outside companies, forcing them to increase prices because they aren't getting enough units to have the lower prices they once did (it's nearly impossible to find a decent watch with an ETA under $1000, when it was easily done even 10 years ago)
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>>57201227
I prefer the red as well, but I think the blue has more consistent styling (I get really turned off by mismatched metal colours).

I'm the guy you responded to btw, not the guy asking about buying a Tudor.
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are stowas worth the money?
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>>57201405
only if you like to stowa bunch of dicks in your ass.

They're alright.
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>>57192666
>You realize that Marathon makes their watches to U.S. Military specifications, right?
I guessed that. Still, that is no excuse.

>>57192712
>the lowest common denominator
A disturbing distinct possibility. I just cannot see what the extra numbers would achieve. It is not as if those wearing such watches would be incapable of knowing the 24 hour system, right? Right?

I wonder who the target users were.
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>>57201155

To be fair, the ETA 2892-A2 is a very good movement. Overpriced, artificially so, because it's only used in watches that are supposed to be "high end", but the movement itself has excellent inherent accuracy and reliability.

It's on the short list of volume produced movements where I would expect any healthy example to be able to be capable of being regulated within COSC specs.
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>>57196936
My interest for smartwatches simply comes from the fact that none of the mechanical (including quartz) watches deliver what I need.

Watchmakers tend to live in a past where 1970's aesthetics still is good, overloading faces with uselessness sacrificing readability and especially readability at night without a second thought for the customers.

And it is not as if they tend to overhaul the mechanical parts as >>57201206 attests. On the technical side it is notable that the only person that I know of willing to radically overhaul things is Ludwig Oechsling, a Physicist rather than Horologist. MEMS will come sooner or later and then we can say goodbye to ETA movements.

Also visually only the small players deliver, like Daniels, Smith and again Oechslin. And again it is notable that the aesthetics arises from simplicity rather than overload.
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>>57201667
I'm debating whether to get a Stowa Back to Bauhaus that's $950 USD or a similarly specked Junkars 6032 at $800 USD. They both have the same movement but the Stowa has a more ornate movement with heat treated blue screws and geneva patterns.
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Can someone recommend a watch for a poorfag?

Preferably
>< $50
>Analog
>leather strap (optional)
>automatic
>spoopy skeltal
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>>57203325
Seiko 5, all new models come with a exhibition caseback and get a leather strap for it separately.

SNK809 is pretty popular, but plenty of other models to get.
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>>57203365
my fucking nigga.

She...She's perfect...
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>>57203365
>dat perfect OKEAH
please God let me meet her
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>>57185772
w2c?
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>>57203632
>OKEAH
I'd love to meet one too.
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>>57203789
Fuck, I slipped up. It's the same movement though right? The 3133 same as the Sturmanskie?
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>everyone seems to have like half a dozen watches or more
>i only have two
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>>57203844
Yup.

Now this also reminds me i need to order more Morelatto straps.

>>57203862
It's okay if you're new to it.
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