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>Job title: entry level junior developer >Required: 6+

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>Job title: entry level junior developer
>Required: 6+ years experience, BSc in Computer Science
>Paid experience only.
>Listed requirements are not optional, do not apply if you lack any of the above.

How the fuck is this entry level?
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>>57149841
>Listed requirements are not optional, do not apply if you lack any of the above.
Apply anyways
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you have to grow up sometimes and realize the realities of reality, kid
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>>57149868
Enjoy getting blacklisted.
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Probably so they can say they can't find any qualified workers and instead want to import them from India.

Whole world has lost it's damn mind.
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>>57149964
Enjoy mowing lawns
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>>57149979
If only there was a presidential candidate who wants to put an end to that
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>>57149841
Apply, but keep looking. These are written by hr drones. Even departments with really smart people often have to pick from a relatively small handful of job descriptions handed to them by hr.

So apply, but keep looking. If you're not called back, don't worry, they'll never remember you. You can apply again to them for other jobs. If you do get a phone screen and flub it, or worse an interview and flub it, your never working for them again. But if you apply and they don't call, not a problem.
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>>57149841
>HR don't know his job.
Nothing new.
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>>57149979
This. They purposefully create impossible or ridiculous requirements because they have no intention of hiring Americans, they probably already have the h1bs lined up and ready to go, the job listing is just a formality.
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>>57150147
Do the h1bs have the requirements though?
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>>57150147
This.
It's not limited to H1Bs, either.
Somebody is already chosen for that job, usually internally, but the rules say it must be advertised first. So they make the qualifications impossible and refuse anyone who turns up. A form of patronage.
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>>57149964
>blacklisted

Are you retarded?
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The job market in this industry is pretty screwed up at the entry level. I'm going to have to find a new job soon (contract coming to a close) and I am dreading it. When you read career boards now people talk about applying to hundreds of positions before getting an interview as if that is perfectly normal.

Most places don't have any sort of training program, "entry level" means 2-5 years experience in their specific stack, every opening receives 100+ applicants, and you better be prepared to move across the country to work. Keep in mind this is supposedly the good industry to be in.

Seems to me the economy is in its death throes for the middle class and the government has become completely dysfunctional.
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>>57150312
>tfw you're told you should apply to jobs like it's an actual 40 hr a week job

I just want to write code and get paid for it.
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>>57149841
>Graduated college
>30k in debt
>Nobody's hiring
>Nobody wants entry level programmers without 9000 open source projects already published
I'm seriously considering dropping 50lb, becoming a faggy femboy bottom and finding myself a sugar daddy instead of working
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>>57149979
>import them from india
you mean outsource to india

it's a huge fucking hassle importing a foreign worker
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>>57150907
>being in debt after school

That's where you fucked up.
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>>57150907
you went to the wrong school
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Recruiters help skip silly shit like that because they have no idea what most of the shit the job requires even is but you have those same abbreviations on your cv so you must be good.
Useful ignorance.
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>>57149964

yup that is EXACTLY how it works. There is a collection of like minded bosses that all know when you apply for a specific job and they call one another to laugh at your shitty resume.

no, retard. Only you hold yourself back from having what employers want.
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>>57150346
Then write code for fun after you've put in at least a few hours of hunting. What's what people who like to code end up doing after work anyway. Code. Whether it's their day job or not.
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>>57150907
where do you live that nobody is hiring?
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>>57149841
>do co-op in school
>company wants me back full time
>sitting comfy
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>>57149841
1/2
Well you see a while back (think it was the 90s/silicon valley golden time?) new companies started poaching talent by applying the "just in time" philosophy to labor. We don't need a mater programmer at our company, we'll just hire one from our competitors when we need them and they'll come over for the higher pay, as we don't have to pay for training and stuff they got at the other place.

Well this crippled the talent of the old order. (IBM and others lost big). And newer startups got it good. Up front costs were covered by speculative investors buying stock and real costs were largely externalized to the competition. If the product made it to market it was often a big win, if it didn't the would fold like so many start ups back then. But as time progressed these growing companies started anti-poaching tactics, blacklisting people who moved too much and many other things.

Things were OK for awhile as the mob of people graduating the tech sector meant the labor pool was big enough to offset the seasoned professionals leaving. However this overload lead to the high wages dropping, while companies refused to take on new costs like training, which use to be the normal.

The result was the qualified people would look for jobs that payed them a fair market value for their skills, which few were doing by then. And the declining quantity and quality of the labor pool had companies scrambling to fill their needs. Needs that could be met if they just paid a little more, but such costs would arguably make them non competitive as the remaining companies were not doing it and nobody wanted to be the first to dramatically raise costs.
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>>57152354
2/2
Over time these costs moved from competitors to colleges to students. Resulting in a huge mismatch of resources. Foreign nations took note of such a large market gap and created state sponsored programs to expanded into this (perceived) void.

These new comers worked for less and had better training, they also sent some of their money back home which was taxed to help cover the state programs. However after years for increasing their living standards they to started demanding higher pay, given the fair market value of their work.

This led to a huge problem. Any company that paid more to get the workers they needed often had their investors panic at the higher cost and would pull their stocks, hurting the company. The same thing would happen if those costs also came from bring back in house training programs, as many had dropped them years ago to save money. Yet if they did nothing they would not get the good people they needed to meet the demand. Thus they would play it safer with smaller and smaller innovations, which could be done with less. Thus they would make less money limiting their future options.

So here we are decades later with a broken systems in a dwindling market that has huge costs. That keeps losing its edge as more and more people decide not to upgrade this time. But give the huge costs I wouldn't be surprised if many companies slowly die as they do nothing but sit on dwindling piles of cash waiting for some miracle.
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>>57152363
3/2 (woops)

Some have been trying to artificially create demand with more planned obsolesces and moving to subscriptions and other models. These may keep the lights on, but they will not cover the core needs to bring a new computer revolution. More so given those qualified workers sitting outside the market are getting bored and innovating for free as their hobbies. (note new boom in Linux and such) A new generation of companies are working to repackage and sell that hard work, but that could lead to a backlash ending what little innovation is left. What makes this so funny is that this is a simple supply chain issue, but the turn around is so long that people don't see it in our fast pace world.

Thus bad HR practices as they fall back to nepotism and slavery (not real slavery, but such one sided deals it at least is servitude), which they argue are safer bets.
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