Apple re-invents the keyboard >The new keyboards will be

>along with an unlimited number of special commands and emojis
This will finally get me to use emojis

Wasn't this done with a keyboard with LED lights on every individual key a while back?

>>57144189
Yes, it was called Optimus Maximus and costed more than $1000.

>>57144172
Who still looks at their keyboard if they are above the age of 10? Isn't it the point to blind type on these things?

>>57144222
How deluded are you? Most people don't touch type.

>>57144172
this has already been done before, and although honestly kind of cool sounds like it will just be a huge drain on battery

>>57144236
I don't keep normies in mind.

>>57144253
>e-ink
>huge drain on battery

>>57144257
Apple does.

>>57144257
OK, supreme gentleman. Whatever you say.

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>>57144257

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>>57144172
Already been done :^)

>>57144307

Just watch all the normalfags that think Apple will have invented this.

wtf I love keyboards now

>>57144307
apple didn't do it so it likely wasn't done right

>>57144307
That looks sick as fuck. I wonder if the Super key can change to whatever distro you are using.

I agree with most criticisms about Apple here, yes, they don't make the most powerful computers, yes, they are greedy and overpriced

But you must admit that when it comes to creativity and innovation, they're always on the forefront.

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Get on my level.

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>>57144317
>>57144328
>Apple hasn't even released theirs yet and the assdevastation is already here
loving
every
laugh

>>57144342
wtf i love steampunk now

>>57144338
see
>>57144307

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>>57144257

>>57144236
How old are you that the majority of your peers can't touch type?

>>57144350

Uhoh, the Apple defence force is here. Watch the butt-blasted projection.

>>57144291
>>57144303
>>57144365
>u r le fat fedora xD
Not an argument.

>>57144382
sure it is

>>57144338
Thats is Braun anon

>>57144375
I have absolutely no clue if the majority of people I know can touch type or not.

>>57144401
well if they can't, they might be certifiable retarded or 60+ years old

wow i'll be able to upboat my fav 4chen threads with the push of a button!!!
#courage #applelove #lel
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Posted From My 2013™ Apple™ Macbook™ Pro™ With Retina™™™ Display™™™™

>>57144392
Please put it in in formal mode then.

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>>57144307
why would anyone ever need a david bowie key?

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>>57144375
The majority of everyone in the world at any demographic can't touch type. It's not a common skill, it's just ubiquitous in the narrow segment of people on sites like /g/

>>57144409
you can already remap every key

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>>57144423
>he doesn't have a Bowie key

>>57144409
>courage

>>57144423
why would anyone ever not?

>>57144412
already did tho

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This is a completely fake story from reddit about apple buying a start-up called sonder, which was also bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zqYGexbTGQ

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>>57144423

>not having a bowie key

>>57144375
>doing software engineering
>3rd year
>almost nobody can touch type

>>57144401
Just look at them while they type something on a keyboard. If they use only 2 fingers to type, they are not touch typing.

>>57144426
>search for average typing speed
>this shows up
Lel

>>57144540
>he fell for the engineering meme

>>57144172
even if it's a fake history, that's a decent idea.

I hope someone implements this using e-ink screens, and it becames standard.

kill yourself

>>57144622
not nice

>>57144236
neither can i, but i can still type without looking at the keyboard

Dude it looks like I'm getting a Dell.

>>57144172
When can computers stop being about gimmicks?

>>57144172
>Apple buys another company technology and product
>Apple "re-invents"

>>57144641
touch typing is easy as shit

>>57144222
the point is to change layouts or type special characters isn't it?

>>57144590
This is an absolutely stupid idea. How is it useful? Would every application need to be specialy coded to support this?

>>57144674

Normalfags just love gimmicks anon. Until computing goes back to a "nerd only pastime", it's here to stay.

>>57144590
>that's a decent idea.
how so?
laptop keyboards are big enough for a full layout with all the common symbols.

Thing is, this already exists. Physical phone keyboards used to have e-ink buttons that could change.

>>57144705
>change layouts
sounds like that would just make typing a pain in the ass

>>57144307
>using the smiley with a carat nose

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>>57144705
>change layouts
only if the number/form of keys don't change, which isn't even the case for ANSI (used in the US) an ISO (used in the rest of the world)

>>57144733
name one

>All these fags ITT jacking off over their $1000 e-ink keyboards made a decade ago because "apple didn't invent!!"
Fuck off, of course they didn't, but there are zero (0) laptops on the market today that do this. Literally no reason to dismiss this genuinely good idea but because >applel made it /g/ thinks it's shit. Fuck off

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>>57144792

Great so now when I'm trying to be comfy in bed my keyboard is going to have to glow with some glaring white-blue light to be able to be seen?

>>57145090
your point?

>>57145808
You said name one so I posted one, how retarded are you?

>>57145830
woah, nice job on the ad hom, very convincing

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>>57144733
>>57144792
>>57145090
>>57145808
>>57145830
>>57145924

>>57145961
all me btw

>>57145924
Fuck off, moron.

>>57144172
>>57144187
>emojis
THE PLURAL OF EMOJI IS EMOJI

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>>57144746
This will all be possible with one key

:^)

>>57146117
i, respectfully, disagree!

>>57146269
>using a keyboard with a key for the smiley with a carat nose
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>57144810
Give me one practical situation where this keyboard would be useful

>>57144172

this actually would be great for a music producer, could map keys to work with your DAW. i support it for this reason only

>>57147197
Switching from qwerty to numpad like some kbds have with a function key
Modifier/shortcut keys for programs
Changing keyboard layout/locale

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>>57147197

>>57146117
fucking weeb

>>57144307
>>57144317

Its not about inventing anything its about perfect implementation and idea execution. That's why Apple wins even when someone does the same sort of thing years before them.

>>57144172
>Windows button on mac

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>>57144653
vintage meme

>>57147655
Where?

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>>57144342
You need a matching monitor.

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>>57147389
???

the Optimus Maximus was really popular back then

>>57144236
>Non ironically spending >$1000 on a computer when you can't even use a basic $10 piece of hardware properly

>>57144307

That looks ugly though. As always Apple will do it well.

>>57144426
>30 WPM average
>30
>WPM
>2 seconds to type one word
>Absolute kek

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>>57145924
>he doesn't even know what an ad hominem is

>>57144426
maybe I'm retarded but I never understood what the difference between mean, median and average was

all I know is average is sum over count, but how are the others computed???

>>57148033

>was popular back then

I wonder why it dropped off prematurely.

>>57144713
>Would every application need to be specialy coded to support this?
Why would it? The OS (or possibly even the keyboard itself) would handle interpreting the keystrokes as the user has configured then those keystrokes would be sent to the application. The application doesn't know that your home row is oíæç or whatever stupid setting you decide, just that it received the letter h the kernel.

>>57148173
because they stopped making it, art lebedev is some kind of hipster arthouse design firm, not a "customizable keyboard" factory

>>57148138
You are retarded, but I'll explain it to you anyway, since apparently you never passed 3rd grade.
Mean is the average; sum divided by cardinality.
Median is the middle answer; list out all the numbers in the set in ascending order then select the one in the center.
Mode is the number in the set that occurs most frequently.

>>57146117
does it matter?

>>57148261
well they never taught that in my 3rd grade

shitty public school I guess

>>57148261
>>57148468
also what happens if the number of numbers in the set is uneven? up or down?

>>57146117
Not in my language.

>>57148215
>because they stopped making it

because it was overpriced, delayed and absolutely unusable to type on

>>57144774
L-shaped is ugly though

>>57146269
>1

Wow apple really cares about us

i will buy this and learn to speak Taiwanese or Japanese or Mongolian this world is truly a tapestry and Apple is the painter

>>57147366
this.

if you are planning to become proficient doing 3d (ie), you've got to learn to use efficiently a dozen different programs ,each one with its own keyboard shortcuts. you can memorize easily the most used ones, but is always better have an easily accessible cheat sheet for the rest.

>>57148867
>but is always better have an easily accessible cheat sheet for the rest.
It would be equally slow than just navigating through the menus
The purpose of shortcuts it's to use them fast, needing to look down at your keyboard or at a cheat sheet defeats this purpose

>>57148970
>It would be equally slow than just navigating through the menus

uh no, with the cheat sheet you can learn the keys, and recognition is much faster than recall

>>57148215
It's not arthouse, it's the biggest design company in Russia.
They just jacked the price too high, no one really buys a rubber dome $1000 keyboard.

>>57144342
Here's your (You)

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>>57144172
>press any key
>there's a key labeled "ANY"

>>57144189
razer did it with the first razer blade but it was implemented terribly, like the whole laptop

>>57144172
we don't need fucking displays on keys, we need to get away from QWERTY-style staggered rows and towards orthogonal key layout.

I don't think typebars have existed since the '80s, so keyboards don't have any real need to have keys arranged as if they do.

Fuck, just have everyone agree to shift the rows by 1 mm every 5 or 10 years until they're aligned if people bitch and moan too much.

>>57144172
>not reinventing the layout while we're at it
>still having a caps lock key
>A CAPS LOCK KEY

>>57150294
CAPS LOCK IS USEFUL YOU DUNCE

>>57150415
indeed, remapped to hyper

What's the point of this? Seems like a gimmick. Reminds me of the heart rate monitor on the S7. Sounded neat, but was a useless gimmick that no one used except for novelty reasons.

Why would you want this? Like the function keys have logos to the websites you hotkey, but you honestly can't just remember them?

The only real benefit I see from this is different languages. Makes it easy on everyone, too. Apple doesn't have to sell different laptops for each language and you can let non English speakers use it in their language.

>>57151891
having symbol hotkeys for some complicated program like logic or final cut or whatever is pretty damn handy

>>57144222
I'm not fluent enough in typing in Korean yet 패밀리오.

>>57151891
being able to see hotkeys for different programs while you're learning them could be insanely useful imo, also learning different keyboard layouts such as dvorak

>>57150294
Caps lock has its uses.

>>57151891
switching to dvorak would be a million times easier if you could glance at the keyboard and actually see the key that it represents.

any time you switch keyboards or use a modifier or anything you could glance at the keyboard and see what's available. we really marginalize the importance of the keyboard but if it could show us useful information once in a while then a lot of square inches would suddenly become useful.

>>57144236

we literally had an touch type exam in elementary school.

they put blankets over our hands

>>57151947
겟 귿

I'm still sketchy at it, desu. I learned by keeping an image of the keyboard layout on screen to reference. One day I asked my teacher (from Korea) about what I wrote. She looked at my keyboard without the stickers she recommended, and asked "how do you type?" Apparently even she could barely touch type.

>>57144307
Lebedev loves apple though.
And hates when people steal his ideas.
I wonder what he's going to write about this.

>>57152136
You can change it to control or any other modifier in system preferences. Everybody wins.

>>57152850
I'm not saying the key's existence is good because it can be used for other things, I'm saying actually having a key that makes all letters capital has its uses.

>>57146117
language changes based on usage.

Why invent new bullshit edge cases when we already have the "plural = s" rule in English? There are exceptions in English but they suck.

>>57153519
why invent new words when "smiley" already existed?

>>57144307
imagine how much easier this would make it to learn vim or emacs

>>57153921
are you asking why we have the word "emoji" when we had smiley? i'm not following your conversation with him - are you being sarcastic?

smiley communicates something specific - a face, often a smiling face. "emoji" encompasses all of the graphics that we use, including smiling faces.

>>57144307
http://www.artlebedev.com/crimea/

I was seriously considering buying one since I'm a translator and work with 4 different languages everyday, but fuck anyone who supports Russia's invasion of Crimea

>>57153988
smiley means the same, emoticon also exists

why, in the last 5 minutes did everyone turn into weebs?

>>57144440
>>57144463
>>57144516
>falling for the bowie key meme

>>57154014
>being this bluepilled

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>>57154014
please tell me this is b8

>>57144713
>Would every application need to be specialy coded to support this?

t. someone who has never programmed in his life

>>57154014
how about you

crimea river

haha

i laugh at your misery

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> Apple thread

>>57144338
>they're always on the forefront.

yeah on the forefront of...Apple

>>57147389
Not this at all. Somewhere along the line apple shills got the idea stuck in their heads that everything ever released by apple is revolutionary and groundbreaking, or just "Just Works" if proven wrong. I'm sure apple caught on pretty quick and just went with it.

>>57144641
Isn't that what touch typing means?

>>57144342
This looks like something I'd use with pride only in privacy and then out of embarrassment or shame lock it away in place of another keyboard whenever someone is around.

>>57144412
"I don't keep norm is in mind" isn't an argument.

>>57154502
this

>>57154501
I believe touch typing generally refers to a specific typing style where the home row is used.

All keyboards should do this to be honest, this is going to require a lot of new drivers to be written though because the os will need to switch languages and layouts

Jesus fuck go back to /r/apple you braindead fucking retards.
This is a pure gimmick piece of shit and only helps make retards more retarded. If you don't learn things the hard way, you don't learn anything at all.

>>57154770
How is this going to make people retarded? It will just make it easier to type in multiple languages.

>>57154794
Just fuck off to /r/apple already, you stupid fucking piece of shit. We don't need any of you applel iToddler retards on here.

>wanna buy an apple product
>cheapest I can get is $900 refurbished

My Toshiba Satellite was $300 brand new and on its 5th year.

>tfw too poor to macfag.

>>57144307
costs $1000
yeah no

>>57154840
>it's only ok if applel overprices their products
kys

>>57154840
>not falling for the $1000 keyboard meme
atta boy

>>57154849
Apple doesn't sell $1000 keyboard though

>>57154895
This thread is literally filled with iTards praising applel for creating a $1000 keyboard based on a rumor.

>>57154915
it's a laptop's keyboard though

>>57154924
Yeah, on a laptop that costs $3500.
If you have a brain, get a real laptop like the XPS 13/15.

>>57154895
>I don't see a problem with this statement, I'd pay for it
>Dodge question
>Situation defused

>>57144332
it had an API (or SDK??), so yes

>>57152169
>switching to dvorak would be a million times easier if you could glance at the keyboard and actually see the key that it represents.

it's actually worse.

because your hands obscure the letters on the keys, you're moving your hands away from the keyboard to do that. it's better to have a copy of the keyboard layout posted within view.

>>57155377
if you're in a position where you need to confirm that the key 5 spaces to the right of the tab key is Y (and not T), then this obsession with speed is already kind of a lost cause.

you should get to the point that you feel comfortable touch typing, but if your instinct is to look where you're about to press to confirm that it's the key you want, and you look and it's showing the wrong glyph, then that's only going to stymie your progress rewiring your brain.

have the layout in view if you want as well, but the worst thing you can say about configurable keyboard keys is that they allow you to also look at the keys, which is a truly weak criticism.

>>57144774
>ISO
>used in the rest of the world

>>57145090
I had one, cool phone.

>>57155414

> if you're in a position where you need to confirm that the key 5 spaces to the right of the tab key is Y (and not T), then this obsession with speed is already kind of a lost cause.

learnt dvorak for RSI, not speed.

>>57155508
... then why does it matter to you that you're moving your hands away from your keyboard to refresh your memory of the keyboard layout?

>>57155515

slows down one's ability to learn to touch type dvorak while learning they layout, because one's hands are leaving the home row continously.

>>57144713
This would be very useful once, perhaps even twice per year.

>>57148486

you add the two middle numbers and divide by 2

this is seriously 7th grade math, what the fuck are you doing on /g/ ?

>>57148486
are you for real?

>>57144172
>Apple steals yet another idea that has already been done and markets it as their own invention

How can they keep getting away with this?

>>57155550
but seeing and then pressing the actual key (and not just a projection of it someplace else within view) reinforces memory-formation.

>>57154014
>I was seriously considering buying one since I'm a translator and work with 4 different languages everyday, but fuck anyone who supports Russia's invasion of Crimea

Educate yourself on the history of the crimean peninsula and you will find that Russia actually has perfect valid reasons for getting that part of their country back.
Sure, the execution was a little bit heavyhanded, but fuck me, I'd rather support Russia's Imperialism (which is at least honest) than support the US' imperialism.

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>>57148867
Blender shortcuts will never fit on one keyboard

>>57146117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFFieUCUhRg

>>57155919
So Germany has perfect valid reasons for getting those parts of their country back?

>>57144257
People who touch type:
The ones who play MMOs and the ones that intensively shitpost in IMs and social media(4chan is slower by design).

>>57155911
are you serious or do you really need us to point out that the OP is the person claiming apple invented anything? or that basically every company basically just makes existing inventions marketable?

this has to be a joke, right?

>>57155930

No, we don't. We have right now basically the geographic part that in the 1800s vowed to unify under the Kaiser at that time.
Prussia was always a part that did not really want to belong to Germany but did so for various reasons. Culturally they were really different.

Hitler fucked it all up, Poland, Austria never belonged to Germany so we have no claim.

Crimea was taken from Russia as a gift to some fucker for political reasons.

>>57155967
5 rupees for (You), Pajeet.

Keep going and you'll have your own toilet soon!

>>57155990
oh my god you're actually retarded, aren't you?

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>>57155988
>88

He's watching over you. Better stop talking bullshit.

>>57155997
>Can't find the shift key
>Calls other people retarded

>>57144172
"re-invents"

You retarded sheep. They bought the company who produced those keyboards for years now. Apple doesnt innovate anything but you capitalistic fuck run after them and throw your money at them no matter what and come online to brag about their "crativity" and their "courage" to try out revolutionary tech.

>>57156004
wow that was an epic burn

>>57155999
Nice trips.

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>>57144423
>>57154075
>not mapping your capslock to bowie key

>>57153950
>text based UI on the screen
>graphics on the keys

This is meaningless.
Only use I can think of would be games.
But you aren't going to fucking game on a macbook.

>>57155916

you reinforce by doing. lifting your hands slows that reinforcement, introduces an action that will later be thrown away and reduces the amount of reinforcement possible in any given time period.

>>57155921
Why do I get the feeling that the only people that'll make any sense to are those who don't need it.

>>57155930
Yes we did and we will do it again soon.

>>57155958
back before cs had mics you HAD to type and type fast

>>57156124
underrated post

post yfw the whole keyboard is just one big force touch display

Imagine if each key has fingerprint scanner fast enough to read even just a fast tap. Even if someone has your password they can't get into your computer.

>>57157505
>input password with pencils
>???

>>57157505
That's retarded. What if you need someone else to type something on your computer?

>>57157521
>no fingerprints detected, access denied

>>57157525
Then it works perfectly normal because in this case it applies to passwords?

>>57157525
it's for your own safety

>>57157505
This would also help with "tradition keyboards can have their input recognized by listening to the taps through a mic" vulnerbility people are starting to throw around.

Instead of having a password you just scan x amount of fingers by laying them softly on random keys.

>Apple faggy gimmick becomes a Hitler Thread
I'm proud of you /g/oim

>>57157533
>>57157571
Then why not just have one fingerprint scanner somewhere else on the computer instead of on every single key?

>>57157692
To sell it at premium price +1000

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Only 10 years late.

#courage

>>57156225
there's a lot of research on this and while you may anecdotally feel this way, it's not the consensus that education researchers have arrived at. but at best, you're making a case that this is just an extra - one that, if you're so convinced is unnecessary, you can disable.

this entire discussion is stupid. if you want a separate layout cheat sheet, go ahead.

>>57154256
kek

>>57144307
>: optimus-popularis-
1500 usd

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAH

OW WOW HAHAHA

>tumblr, snapchat, reddit function key
>facebook like key
Is the cyberpunk fortune coming true?

>>57144257
Brilliant idea, to design something while not keeping in mind 99% of the population

>>57144172
I feel like apple would be the ones to do this right. Though maybe without steve jobs they will fuck it up.

I'm just waiting for the first piece of hardware that somehow combines the physicality of buttons with the diverse UI options of touch screens.

>>57151891
>Apple doesn't have to sell different laptops for each language and you can let non English speakers use it in their language.
Except they will still have to sell ANSI/ISO/Chinese/Korean/double half shift keyboards, because otherwise they won't be compatible with the country standards, no matter how many emojis they add to each key. The expensive part isn't getting different keys, but to have different chassis, which they will have to for ANSI/ISO.

>>57144332
now THAT is literally the only use