THANK YOU BASED MICROSOFT really, why use linux stand alone

can you please read your post and think about it for a minute

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>>57015926
It doesn't even work. Why do wintoddlers try so hard?

>>57015926
It's god awful.
Tried it, upgraded to Ubuntu sid, and now python and aptitude are broken.

I'll stick w/ Gentoo.
It's the only distro that works.

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>>57015926
>windows 10 has linux built-in.
Yeah, but it doesn't work.

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>>57016046
>>57016018
try harder shills

>>57016127
>root permission for pinging
It's like using that temple OS garbage

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>>57015998
>>57016018
>>57016034
>>57016046
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>>57016127
>>57016143
>pinging as a root
lmfao wintoddler

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>>57016144
Doesn't matter if you are root that shits disabled by default.

>>57016157
wow, such autism

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>>57015926
oh boi I'm going to use the best distro with the best operative system now

HOLY SHIT LINUX PERMANENTLY BTFO

FREETARDS ON SUICIDE WATCH DOCTORS HAVE TAKEN AWAY THEIR BELTS AND SHOELACES

>>57016163
try harder
>>57016127
>>57016143

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>>57015926
REEEEEE DELETE THIS WINBABBY

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>>57016220
Ok here

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@57016230
Go take your autism pills, manchild

>>57015926
One word: FORCED INSTALLATION OF APPS

>>57016232
did you make sure to run bash as admin privs?

>>57016271
this. its also the way to get ping to work since windows doesn't allow non-admin access to its sockets.

>>57015926
Completely useless

>>57016157
Tell me, how much rupees are they paying you pajet? I want to get into paid shit-posting

>>57016046
>gif
Why?

>>57016285
for reference:
>The Windows TCP/IP stack which requires admin privileges to open RAW sockets for security measures
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms740548(v=vs.85).aspx

>>57016290
>my tiling wm with anime theme doesn't work in it

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>>57016271
>>57016285

How?
Do I have to remote desktop in and right click on cmd to run it as Admin every time? lmfao

>>57016306
technically, it should. they have gotten unity working.

they are also porting arch over as well
https://github.com/turbo/alwsl

>>57016271
>run bash as admin privs
Why do I need admin privilege to use a shell?
It's like needing root to use a file manager

Well this is a pleasant surprise. This will go very well with re-learning a lot of my linux commands without constantly having a virtual machine open on my main PC.

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>>57016306
What?

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>>57015926
>windows
>2016
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>>57016341
lol microsoft is going to FORCE you to windows 10.

So much for respecting user choices

>>57016325
you right click on "bash on ubuntu on windows" in start menu, click more, click run as admin.

or just add it to your desktop, taskbar, or pin to start menu.

>>57016355
The machine is fucking headless, thats too much of a pain in the ass, if I can't ssh in and have access to networking its broken.

>>57016336
did you not see:
>>57016305

microsoft doesn't allow non admin-privs to its raw, low level sockets such as those that icmp uses such as ping.

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>>57016352
Nah (;

>mfw Linux runs powershell AND many other shells effortlessly
>mfw it's another winkid trying to fit in /g/ episode

>>57016373
It's a bad security design

>>57016368
As an expert hacker, I too need to have the ping command at my fingertips 24/7.

>>57016368
>doesn't work the way i view it how it should work
>therefor broken
linux users folks. this is why their os will never break 2% desktop market share.

i just remembered this exists and grabbed it

then i wondered why i would want to use bash on my personal computer

seriously why?

would be useful for work, but i don't really want windows 10 on that shit

>>57016157
You didn't even read my post wtf.

>>57016404
No, its just Windows being too hard to use.

>>57016387
microsoft limiting access to its low level raw sockets is a security flaw?

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>>57016420

>>57016393
As an expert hacker, I too need to have bash shell at my fingertips 24/7.

>>57016424
It will, stay chill. What support have received past Intel CPUs? None. And they work perfectly fine.

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>needing bash

Powershell is far superior in every way.

>>57016341
Post WP?

>>57016423
Yes, while you run complex scripts that shouldn't need root password you can get major security breach

>>57016046
>Trying to open an ICMP socket
>as a standard user

Nice try guy.

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>>57016473
Sure

>>57016449
>past Intel CPUs
That's a thing in the past though..,

I think microsoft is planting hardware level DRM on CPUs.

>>57016449
nearly all versions of windows recieved back support for newer featrures added by processors.

such as microsoft back porting fixes for faildozer with its cmt design. which increased performance with faildozer by 10%.

now with x86 being x86, the processors will work at a basic level, but newer features such as optimizations for newer smt / cmt designs and power saving features won't work.

>>57016046
>!BE/4wes0mE
>not a shitty post
where is the real one?

>>57016496
I doubt, but time will tell. For me it's Win7 or Linux.

>>57016442
Why the hell do you think anyone on /g/ switches to Linux?
Windows is literally too hard to use, support.microsoft.com is a fucking joke and doing anything is so convoluted and buggy that god forbid something not work properly, which is a good portion of the time, you will be greeted with bullshit OOPS errors or literally a single string of hex 0xLOLITBROKE.

gross

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>>57016453
I used it for a while, didn't like it

>>57016483
Kevin is an administrator.
Do I have to tell CMD that I want to use my administrator privileges somehow? I sure as fuck don't know how.

>>57016503
>newer smt / cmt
You llost me after basic features. If it's about power consumption / power saving features I hardly care.

>>57016534
there's no native sudo or doas in cmd?

LMFAO straight into the trash it goes

>>57016534
Even if Kevin is an administrator, UAC says he needs to escalate to use it.

>>57016534

powershell.exe -Command "Start-Process cmd -Verb RunAs"

>>57016476
on windows, root doesn't fully function as root. windows still enforces its admin privileges. preventing you from total access to the system. if you're that paranoid you can create a normal non root account just like regular linux.

you also have to go out of your away to enable the linux subsystem. from activing developer mode to installing it from add or remove windows programs. the average user does not gain access to this. even the average "power user." its not even included by default.

and again, what you said, had nothing to do with your comment of criticizing microsoft from limiting access to raw low level sockets.

>>57016553
My point is that its too fucking convoluted. Even you don't know how to do it, its probably buried in some kb article on microsoft's support site and nobody has even tried to do it so its probably broken.

Shit triggers me so hard reeeee god I hate Windows.

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>>57016573
I don't even run Windows though, get fucked Wincuck.

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>>57016569

>>57016544
well enjoy your gimped processors because its not just power saving features.

its also performance. hence, smt / cmt designs with the way windows schedules.

when intel came out with HT (smt), microsoft, and even linux, had to update their schedulers to schedule processes efficiently.

multi-core became mainstream, on both sides of the fence, tweaks had to be done.

amd with faildozer cmt design? same thing. even linux had to and their tweaks netted the same performance increase as microsoft, 10%. that 10% being massive since faildozer was terrible in the single threaded department.

and now amd is coming out with their own unique smt design with zen. you bet there will be tweaks needed to the windows scheduler.

its more than just power saving.

oh and can't forget the most obvious. if microsoft won't release support for the newer gen processors, why would intel and amd bother releasing chipset supports for anything lower than 10?

>>57016423
>malicious program gains ability to access some ports
vs
>malicious program gains root access

>>57016571
Well, on Linux you get access to ICMP socket but you won't get the permission for changing anything on /

It's just a better design and it doesn't need you to feed the root passoword for every script that you run.

Also I don't even think you need root privilege to ping on windows natively, so there goes your "microsoft limiting ICMP socket" argument

>>57016634
reread >>57016571

and see all the posts of people in this very thread trying to run ping as root without first running a admin level prompt.

because I don't want pajeet to see who I talk to online and try to hit on em with "i lov u pls show pussy"

>>57016602

runas /noprofile /user:Kevin cmd

>enter password

>>57016648
native ping on windows doesn't access icmp the same way it does in bash on windows.

>>57016631
I'm not going to jump off the building's top just because someone say it's going to collapse.

>>57016681
Name 5 differences

>>57016157
/v/ please go

>>57015926
>windows 10 has linux built-in
which kernel version?

Winner, "Most Retarded Thread of the Day, 10-10-2016"

(clap clap clap...)

>>57016696
what? what does that have to do with the way they access sockets down at the network layer?

the windows version is designed to access windows raw sockets without violating windows privileges. the bash version is not since it was design solely around linux way of things.

hence why bash ping needs admin-privs to access on windows.

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>>57015926
>windows 10 has linux built-in.
Fuck this is some next level bloat. Are they going to include everyother OS in the world as well.


Where were you when microsoft started declining?
Where were you when microsoft became so insecure?

>>57015926
> OS so useless they need to literally include another OS in it to be functional

>>57016780
>too hard
kek name 3 differences then

>>57016163
Hey kevin

>>57016791
are there even more than 300 million people in the world that can afford computers lol

>>57016791
It's not actually built in. You have to download and install it still, as you can clearly see from OP's image.

>>57016803
Powershell works, but no one wants to use it so this is an alternative.

Are you guys stupid or are these just poor attempts at shitposting?

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>>57015926
If I want a specific other OS, there are virtualbox for it.

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>>57016803
WINKEKS on suicide watch, can't even compete now, they have accepted UNIX superiority.
Stay mad poo in loos.

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>>57016591
>battle.net
manchild detected

>>57016826
Are you serious? 300 million devices doesn't mean 300 million people.

>>57016806
not op but you have to be trolling. both windows ping and linux ping operate similarly (both differ slightly, such as linux ping does not terminate by default after "x" number of pings) and feature wise has nothing to do with windows ping being built around windows privileges and linux ping being built around linux privileges for accessing low level sockets. both are designed around not violating their host privileges.

>>57016864
>It's not actually built in
That's what OP said

haha just pinged googles mail server

time to send people emails via telnet

>>57016887
I don't remember saying that 300 devices = 300 people, just pointing out how absurd it is to point out "it's only in 300 million keke" as if it's a measly number

>>57016956
>measly numbe
Compared to PCs running windows 7 and other windows', yes

>>57015926
>>linux users on suicide watch
Thanks to Windows, Linux now has the largest marketshare. Wincucks on death watch!

>>57016990
its only second tho win7 tho, and growing
>>57017028
this lmao, I just checked it's 2.50% from a 1% last year, thanks win10!

>>57016157
>>57016230
>>57016203
Do we share this place with mentally handicapped people?

>>57017129
>this lmao, I just checked it's 2.50% from a 1% last year, thanks win10!
I meant Linux is on Windows 10, plus the 2.50%.

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>>57017175
so 2.500001%

this page is kinda kekworthy
https://wiki.freebsd.org/Myths

>>57015926
It's Windows

>>57017219
FreeBSD has drivers, OpenBSD doesn't.

FreeBSD has shit tier security, much like windows

>>57015926
I have no reason to use Windows.

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How to install it, how to start it ? Want to play around

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Privacy and true freedom can only come from BSD, GNU/Linux, or OpenSolaris.
>>57016018
>os-prober
why is grub even there?

>>57017316
http://www.howtogeek.com/249966/how-to-install-and-use-the-linux-bash-shell-on-windows-10/

>>57017402
Because both canonical and microsoft are retarded.

In their defence, it's just a placebo anyways

why would I want to run windows in the first place?

>>57015926
Basically microsoft admitting that the other design is better.

>paid MS shilling as usual
I honestly wish someone reputable would take over 4chan to kick these fucking paid shills out.

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>>57017175
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
It's slowly getting there

>Mac has more overall growth
FUCK

Goes to show that the only one capable to destroy Windows is M$ themselves.

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>>57016157
Why do all Wintards type like they come from /v/?

Really makes you think...

>>57018870
Because they do. There's no reason to use Windows over Linux aside from video games and those are for manchildren. Photoshop and CAD stuff is another example, but those can run through Wine or whatever. Although Gimp is fine because if you really cared about Photoshop so much, you'd use a Mac. Along with any other design software.