A reminder that DX12 is awesome for everyone when acually implemented

>>56993024
no
now fuck off

yes, fuck AMD
can't wait for their bankruptcy

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AMD are bunch of backward retards

They have 15 years old bugs in their GPU drivers across all platforms.

using their shitty products is pure suffering

they are not providing any competition at all to nvidia and intel

>>56993024
So basically game devs are not full utilizing an AMD feature that Nvidia does all the time (Gimpworks). Sounds fair fampai.

>>56993024
DirectX is proprietary cancer that has no place on an open platform

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>>56993024

>>56994771
Well it's a bootstrap problem now
Not enough money for R&D, so not enough money to make competitive products, so no enough money for R&D

>>56994831
>there aren't more gpus than amd or nvidia
fucking gaymen manchildren

>>56993024
AMD is indeed cancer

>>56993024
Yes!!! I can't wait until AMD dies so that Nvidia don't have to waste money "competing" with them, and can spend it on R&D instead. Plus devs can stop worrying about optimizing for AMD shit to get it running at all on their trash hardware. We could see a huge jump in performance once AMD stops dragging everybody else down.

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>>56995549
>waste money "competing"
>spend it on R&D instead

Do you know how competition works in the GPU market?

>>56993024
>can we All agree that AMD is cancer?

yes

>>56993024
do you have the memory span of a goldfish?

do you not remember the remake of a previous GoW game for windows 10 that was dx12, implying fair implementation for both vendors but was in fact gimped on AMD?

https://youtu.be/_OH1IE67ndg?t=565
at 9:25 is the part regarding this.

I claim bullshit on your spewing, OP. I'm out.

>>56993024
Dx12 os obsolete after vulkan bro. Plus its closed platform

Can somebody explain to me how Nvidia can have pretty good OpenCL performance but horrible Vulkan/DX12 performance when these are described by the OpenCL group:
>simply exposing OpenCL bindings to graphics programmers.
And this makes sense. You populate your devices, load kernels, and have a command queue this is the same in Vulkan, DX12, and OpenCL.

DX12, Vulkan, and OpenCL both use SPIR-V. Nvidia and AMD both use the LLVM to handle SPIRV.

What is Nvidia doing so wrong? How is their performance this shit?

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>>56993024
WOW Nvidia does better in a poorly optimized console port with gameworks and a terrible DX12 implementation! Who would have thought?

>DX12
>requires Botnet 10
dropped

>>56997499
No hardware scheduler.

>>56994771
bah, Nvidia took two years to solve some stupid bugs i had with my gtx 760 in windows 7. Both companies are shit. I will go VIA next

>>56993024
Man fuck AMD. Now that they are pretty much a niche Nvidia is going full jew mode and making us pay premium prices for midrange cards. At least when AMD made decent stuff it made sure prices were within the limits.

I mean seriously, 500 EUR for a 1070 GTX? Get fucked Nvidia.

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>>56997528

Its why Nvidia lied about giving fermi DX12 support. Fermi does have a hardware scheduler and the last thing Nvidia wants is their newer architectures looking bad in comparison.

Now show us Quantum Break's DX12 performance chart.

>>56997794
Why would you want to play Quantum Break? It's a generic shooter.

>>56997548
I couldn't even use any driver newer than 340 on Windows 7

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>Playing on high
>not ultra

>>56997635
>the way it's meant to be gimped
And this is why I went with AMD this round, fuck nvidia. And then nvidiots shitpost about "muh old hardware support", "muh driver support", go die in a fire.

>>56997499
Nvidia doesn't have horrible dx12/vulkan performance (unless the dev doesn't properly optimize), AMD just has appalling DX11 and OpenGL performance.

>>56998260

>AMD just has appalling DX11 and OpenGL performance.

GCN's DX11 performance is fine.

>>56998428
No it's not. Stronger hardware than nvidia, performance well below nvidia. Not fine.

>>56994771
Nah, AMD is doing better now than in the past

>>56998454

> Stronger hardware than nvidia,

No, its not. GCN is strong in areas that Nvidia's architectures are not and vice versa. There is no one size fits all design for graphics cards and AMD has different priorities in what a gpu design needs than Nvidia.

Compute throughput just happens to be one of GCN's strengths. Conversely shader wise Nvidia's design is superior to GCN and that is primarily what gives Nvidia the edge right now.

>>56993024
Async is completely useless, you don't even get more performance by using such thing.

Nvidia didn't optimize their hardware for async, because they're not dumb. I still don't know how AMD still exists, I wish they only sold their products in india so we could get better products elsewhere.

>>56997499
Because most games released for DX12 so far are console ports which run AMD hardware and therefore require lot of work to run decently on Nvidia hardware which developer simply don't want to do or have the knowledge budget to do so.

Quantum Break DX12 VS DX11 is a perfect example, the DX12 rendered actually runs the same as the DX12 on AMD meaning it gains literally nothing while Nvidia on the otherhand the DX11 rendered is faster than DX12 indicating some big fuck up by the developer on the DX12 implementation.


Gear Of Wars 4 is a PC game ported to Console which is why it runs so great.

>>56993024

>AMD is cancer
>DX12 is awesome for everyone
>DX12 borrows ideas from Mantle

>>56998561
(You)

>>56998623
>AMD invented low level apis

>>56998623
nigger these low level api's were in development well before mantle was even a thing.

>>56994540
You're right, this guy is absolutely right, can't wait for AMD to go bust and for nVidia/Intel to have no competition what so ever.

>>56998680

>he doesn't know

Dx12 we have now =/= what MS was originally building (thats what DX11.3 essentially is).

>>56993024
> things are good when people do the right things
>government is good when people do the right things
>javascript is good as long as you ignore the bad parts
>everything is perfect as long as people do good stuff
fuck. off.

>>56998680
Are you inbred or lobotomized?

>>56998730
http://www.pcgamesn.com/what-on-earth-is-glnext

'no'

they all had the same fundamental target

>>56998730
DX11.3 has almost all the features that DX12 has.

>>56997528
nice meme

>>56999203
>reality is a meme
Neo-/g/ everybody!