/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>56971345
Was that awful image made in GIMP?

>>56971362
> any picture with RMS
> awful

Has UTF-8 compatibility been fixed in FVWM95? If not, what other W95-like DE do you recommend?
Reposting from the last thread

Updating just fucked my X. I think it happened right when mesa was being updated. A restart fixed the issue. Anyone experience something like this?

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>>56971362
Honestly, the only reason I still use Photoshop instead of GIMP is the lack of quick selection tool. With photoshop, it selects the similar nearby region easily and you can extract subject from the background. GIMP's tool can't do it, instead it selects all the matching color in the picture and you can't pick what you select or add regions to them.

Not OP

What distros actually have unique features that aren't easily available on every other distro? So things like porteus and it's module based package system, or gobo Linux for sane folder conventions.

>>56971486
>folder conventions.
Nice, might look at that

>>56971475
Do a system upgrade and install your DE

>>56971549
Nani?

>>56971553
In doing so the packages like mesa, xorg were upgraded to the latest and I could use my DE again

>>56971475
Do a system restore. Oh wait, freetards don't even have such a basic function! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

>>56971486
You can't get the USE flags from Gentoo in another distro (well except for Bedrock Linux). Install Gentoo.

>>56971584
Are you fucking retarded? If anything Linux has more filesystem snapshot compatibility than any other commercial OSes

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>>56971727
meant for >>56971611

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Is there a noticeable advantage to Debian over Ubuntu? I've used Ubuntu consistently for over a year in addition to fucking around with Debian and Arch, and I feel like trying new things while at the same time feeling like my needs are already satisfied.

>>56971475
arch user spotted

>>56971867
I'm on Debian actually

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hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

What is the best W95-like window manager? FVWM and QVWM seem to be dead and I can't find another one.

>>56971926
>W95-like window manager?
You mean the fucking explorer or DWM

Just install the theme for it, it didn't have tilling

>>56971889
Ubuntu Mate

>>56971995
I mean something like FVWM that simulates both DWM's function and Explorer function+theme.

0/10 no lewd OP image

>>56971345
I tried GNU/Linux, but it sucked ass. It was like a really crappy UNIX but without the elegance and simplicity.

Now i'm using systemd/linux and almost never directly touch anything GNU. Stallman's presence on my system is basically the libraries that the systemd suite depends on. I don't even use the shitty shell and coreutils, since they're pointless and crippled on anything that isn't REAL UNIX or plan 9. Go full bloat or go home.

>>56971889
windows POSready

>>56971479
There are multiple ways to crop an outline from a picture in GIMP. The option you mention can be changed in settings to behave differently. You're just dumb.

>>56972367
enlighten me

>>56972211
You aren't being friendly.

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Why do YOU use libre software, /g/?

Me, it's because I hate the capitalist pigs that run the software industry.

I made a thread, but I'll post this here as well:

Is there really any legitimate benefits to systemd without taking into account faster boot times?

That point seems moot for anyone that has month long uptimes, especially when it's only a 20-30 second difference on an unconfigured OpenRC install.

Otherwise, it seems overly complex and dependency-heavy for what I expected systemd to be.

This is not a troll thread. I'm looking for honest, no-bullshit discussion about this, since I'm migrating from a Debian Jessie install that I've been using for almost 3 years to Devuan or Arch-OpenRC since I want a simpler base system to build up for embedded dev. Looking to install it on some old hardware because I'm poor af and I only have 50GB worth of HDD space since I'm using a cheap SSD.

I'm not here to bash systemd. I'm looking for other benefits. I wanna learn, senpai

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My router (pic related) firmware is version 1.2 from 8 July 2014. There is a new version: 1.5 from 6 July 2016. Should I update?

The changelog talks only about the differences between 1.5 and the previous version, that must be 1.4, so I don't know if there are significant differences. Between 1.5 and the previous one there aren't.

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>>56972456
>paths tool
Manual, but you can make it pixel-perfect.
>fuzzy select
This is what I assume you're comparing to PS. For clear borders. Threshold and select-by can be adjusted to whatever. If the surrounding colours are similar and the threshold is too high, like-colors will be selected, so you have to adjust to pick out what you want.
>scissors select
Only for clear borders.

All have keyboard shortcuts for modes, like shift to add to selection and ctrl to subtract with the fuzzy select tool.
So if you actually wanted to learn how to use GIMP for such purposes, you could - just start with the official documentation and play around. Remember, GIMP has never touted itself as a PS competitor or replacement, yet that's exactly what you're falsely doing by saying "PS can do X, why can't GIMP emulate X directly?".

>>56972569
I like to change programs so they exactly do what I want them to do.

>>56972569
Security.

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>>56972569
Stallman enlighted me.

I've been using lightshot via wine for the longest, but I'm tired of it.

Preferred, semi-available GUI, which can upload to imgur/pomfs? Custom rebinds and region are a plus.

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>>56972781
>fuzzy select
Yes, and that's honestly quite inefficient compared to this

>>56972569
Windows 10 privacy violations.

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Which free as in freedom router operating systems are, that requires less equipment capabilities than OpenWRT? My 2 routers are too weak for OpenWRT!!

>>56972816
free dominance?

>>56973168
How does this contrast to DD-WRT?

I have said running on my old Netgear WNDR3300.

>>56972632
It standardizes a lot of the Linux "base system". There's one way to start, stop and restart services which is better than having to rely on init scripts being well made. Unit files make configuration simpler and predictable.

It has dependency resolving builtin which makes complex scenarios much easier than before. You can have a service that depends on a second service that depends on a file system being mounted and if the main service is killed, the second service will be killed and the file system it required unmounted automatically.

Socket activation, which not only makes it faster like you mentioned but also more robust because if a program fails the sockets it needs remain open and when it/if restarts no messages were lost.

It takes advantage of Linux cgroups, for example if you have a service that forks itself, when you kill the main process everything it created gets killed as well, this is especially useful for things like Apache because before you had to sometimes manually kill all the shitty CGI scripts that it spawned and then disowned.

Centralized logging is very helpful, timers are superior to cron, systemd-analyze is really cool, systemd-nspawn is chroot but even more powerful.

The main disadvantage of systemd is that it's useless if all you use your computer for is spending hours ricing your tiling wm, watching porn, shitposting on 4chan, watching anime and shitposting some more.

I tried arch didn't like it

I tried arch and I liked it

I didn't try arch and I am unbiased

I think my blog counts

>>56973120
You can do literally the same thing with fuzzy select. At the end, it's still shit for your example, because you have to do the hair manually if you want to get every last strand.

>>56973262
>DD-WRT
Thanks for giving me this name. But, as I saw on the Wikipedia article, it mixes free software with proprietary software, so I don't see much advantage, is there any?

Is there a distro good for a home server?

>>56973383
NO

>>56973383
Any distro is good for a home server

>>56973275
>>56973287
>>56973293
I kissed a girl, and I didn't like it;
She hadn't kissable cherry lipsticks.

>>56971777
Debian is
- more stable because they have a more defined and extensive development cycle
- rolling-release (if you upgrade to Unstable aka Sid)
- respects freedom (100% free/open source software, including deblobbed kernel) by default
- has easy access to "officially unofficial" non-free software repos including the blobbed linux kernel

Also Debian has nearly no configuration on its software, whereas Ubuntu and its flavors try to preconfigure everything to be a particular way.

So if you don't care about the 4 freedoms and you like how Ubuntu is setup, then it sounds like it works better for you than Debian.

What's a good distro for beginners, but still embodies the GNU/Linux/fsf ideologies?

>>56973560
Trisquel

>>56973560
Need to keep that neckbeard street cred?
biebian linux

>>56973560
Trisquel

>>56973560
These are the FSF classifies as Free: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html

There's also Debian that is free by default but it allows users to enable non-free repositories so it's not included in the list above.

If you really care about a distribution being completely free use Trisquel, if not use Debian or one of it's derivatives like Ubuntu or Mint.

somehow I can't access pomf.cat anymore
how do I troubleshoot something like this?

>>56973626
It's just you. http://pomf.cat is up.

Maybe it's your DNS, maybe you're IP banned.

>>56973659

I know it's just me

>how do I troubleshoot something like this?

>>56973622
Except don't use Mint

>>56973665
>Maybe it's your DNS, maybe you're IP banned.

Change DNS. Change IP.

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hey /g/, what's the best lightweight gnu?

>>56973841
KDE

>>56973841
funtoo

mint is okay

>>56973944
no

>>56973944
yes

>>56973944
broken and insecure poo

I really like using Ubuntu, but energy consumption is horrible and my wifi connection slows down or gets disconnected pretty easily. Is there any fix for this? I checked and the system recognized my laptop's hardware just fine. Mainly the wifi problem is keeping me from switching to ubuntu full time

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Checking out Solus right now. Has anyone else tried it? I'm liking it overall but the lack of software really sucks.

>>56974008
http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TLP

>>56973944
Mint users are loosers, here's why:

>0day vunerability or bug appears
>distros get security updates
>everyone is save
>except mint users

>>56974034
I feel like in a couple of years Solus is going to be the new Ubuntu, it just needs to catch up in terms of software selection.

What distro is best for gaming, in terms of driver availability and performance. I have an extra hard drive and want to use it specifically for gaming. Freedom is not an issue.

>>56974060
SteamOS

>>56974060
All distros are the same. There no distro that works better or worse for gaming.
>Freedom is not an issue
see >>56974065

>>56974051
I agree, it feels really smooth and it's great for general use (writing papers, email and such) but for anything else its not great yet. I'd love to be able to use SQL dev in it and other shit like that but I'll have to stick to another distro for that.

>>56974065
>distro

>>56974060
Clearly Gentoo. It has best driver support and ís especially made for best gaming support.

>>56974060
gentoo works best, I get even more FPS than on windows

>>56974060
Try Gentoo. Comes with steam preinstalled.

Is Arch breaking a meme? I have been dual booting arch for 2 months now and updating regularly and everything seems to be working fine.

>>56974060
If you want to use the latest super-duper graphics hardware, it's worth noting that ubuntu seems to get graphics driver atention from the manufacturers before anyone else. I'm a debian guy, but not really a hardcore gamer.

>>56974181
Everything is a meme.

>>56974181
arch doesn't only break, it already comes broken
don't fall for arch

>>56974181
yes and no like any distro.

>>56974060
gentoo

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>>56974197
I'm a meme!

>>56974261
DELETE THIS

Despite having squid/polipo setup to cache websites, pages with alot of images are taking a long as time(placeholders are empty)
Tried chromium and firefox,fresh profiles. The cache is on an ssd.
There are no logs on either program that indicate any error(verbose mode)
What could be causing this?

"Using X11 for dbus-daemon autolaunch was disabled at compile time, set your DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS instead"

Does anyone knows what causes this error? I'm trying to run a python script and it crashes, outputting that line.

In bash scripting, when I try to echo a function I set up, the result is the function name itself rather than the result of the function.

for example:

function () {
    echo "world"
}

echo 'hello (function)'

The result is literally printing: hello (function)
Rather than: hello (world)

Not sure what I am messing up here..

>linux

nice ememe

Maybe you've discussed a lot about this distro but I've been using fedora for ages and tomorrow I'm installing manjaro just to give it a try. What basic stuff should I know?

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>>56973481
The rolling release aspect of Sid is very attractive, but will it be crashing every other day? The only software I'll ever be using is a music player, mpv, an IDE, and web browser.

>>56975072
Sid is about as stable as ubuntu beta. You can make it work but if it's a production machine I wouldnt.

>>56975036
>What basic stuff should I know?
It is fundamentally flawed, the dev team think they are omniscient, the "support" forums are the blind leading the blind, many users have breakage from the updates, the theming is consistently disgusting, Basically pretty shitty.

>>56974963
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html#toc8

>>56974963
nvm figured it out

>>56974077
tried it out. was ok but it was a pain to use outside of the steam environment and gnome was broken. didn't feel like wasting time trying to fix it, looking for something that just works.

>>56974100
>>56974114
>>56974128
gentoo is my last resort

>>56974182
i'm currently trying debian with proprietary drivers. i'm not a huge gamer either. i havn't properly played vidya in months but i just wanna play some gta and skyrim every now and then. will try ubuntu if the debian packages aren't good enough.

>>56975521
Again: All distros are the same. There are no "Distro XY only" drivers.

>>56975521
Gentoo is hard to install. Install Ubuntu or Antergos

>>56975537
keep telling yourself that buddy.

>>56975563
You will learn it sooner or later.

Would refraining from using a DE increase the average laptop's battery life significantly?

>>56975547
please go home to reddit

>>56975521
try out solus, some guy was so impressed he shilled it for free.

never tried it myself, just have heard about it around the community.

>>56975575
No, you're being too broad when you say "all distros are the same." Just because I can make a driver work with any distro does not mean that it would take an equal amount of effort to do so across all distros. Some make it easy and just work, while others make you jump through hoops.

It's actually my fault for not being more specific with my question and confusing you. I'm looking for the distro that's easy/quick to set up offers all up to dates drivers in it's repository so I don't have to spend all night searching and compiling shit that works against some obsure libre distro from yemmen.

>>56975665
literally every distro

>>56975682
i'm sorry about your autism

>>56975537
True but getting current drivers on Ubuntu is three terminal commands where in other distros is gets a lot more involved. That's the diffirence. That's why even devs with the experience to use anything choose ubuntu.

>>56975665
Try Gentoo. It just works.

>>56975692
Whatever makes your broken mind happy.

>>56975665

A game that runs on Debian will never run any better on Ubuntu or Mint or worst on Arch, because all distros are the same OS with using the same drivers, installed with your package manager.

hey /g/, what's the best distro for watching porn?

>>56975778
Windows 10. You get to have someone watch it with you

These distro wars remind me a little bit of /pol/.

>>56975757
Yes, but my point is centered around "ease-of-use." You can get the same performance across all distros, but just work while others make you work. Period.

>>56975826
What work?
%packagemanager% %installflag% %driver%

If I wanted to install arch alongside W10 on a UEFI system, how would I set up the partitions?

>inb4 meme distro
I know, but it's a fun meme

>inb4 install gentoo
I will someday

>>56975826
So you're basically searching for a retard-friendly distro. Just say it.

>>56975843
it's not fun, it's bloated, broken and a waste of time

>>56975836
thank you for showing me how to install in package.

>>56975844
exactly. i'm autistic enough with my daily distro, I'm just setting this up to play manchildren games on the weekend. not trying to sperg out on it.

>>56975851
Alright, you've convinced me. I've stopped liking Arch.

But seriously, I'm still distro hopping to see what I like, and I'm on Arch right now. I've already installed it on my laptop and it works fine.

>>56975843
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EFI_System_Partition
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Partitioning#Partition_scheme

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The Arch developer philosophy contradicts their willingness to adopt systemd simply out of sheer convenience. For this reason alone, I will not be installing Arch on my machine.

>>56973560
Stock debian

>>56975938
What's wrong with systemd?

>>56976062
Autism detector. Normal people are not affected

>>56971345
how do i gpu passthrough in linux?

>>56976190
Good luck anon
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF

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How do i dualboot windows 10 and manjaro? I have fast boot and secure boot disabled, I shrunk my windows partition and whenever I try to boot Manjaro xfce I'm stuck on the splash screen that says manjaro with the 4 dots and never gets past there. I've tried using UEFI (since my Windows install is UEFI) but it doesn't get anywhere, and Using EFI is what gets me suck at the splash screen...

>>56976213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=616wvkZuco4

Follow the MADMAN

>>56976227
yup i can't get anywhere past the boot screen and selecting boot manjaro/manjaro (nonfree) it just hangs up

>>56976190
>>56976204
Would it be any easier in debian?

What exactly is the deal with Arch? All I see are people calling it buggy, broken, and unstable, but it looks like almost everyone on this board uses it.

Is Arch a meme? Is Arch being shit a meme? What the fuck, I'm lost.

>>56976286
It isn't, just a few shitposters forcing this meme hard

>>56976286
you're life is a meme kid

>>56976286
Arch isn't buggier than any other vanilla distros

>>56976286
It's an autistic ricer meme distro that is too unstable for actual work. Hence the memes.

>>56971611
Actually there are a lot of free software tools that do that.

>>56971475
>restart fixed the issue
>mesa
Restarting x should have been enough.
>>56975072
I have been using sid with aptitude and apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges for over a year now and never had serious problems, you just need to read changes before upgrading and sometimes hold back a few packages.

>>56971889
The one i am using
>>56972211
is that new pasta or did you forget the location of your webblog?
>>56976286
Arch has a shit community on both /g/ and elsewhere, this is why you see those comments. arch is more close to being used by maybe a third of the GNU/Linux users on here.

>>56976279
there is no difference really.
>>56976213
What did you make the usb with? If it was unetbootin start again with something less retarded. Maybe also with a less retarded distro.

>>56976383
i've tried Livelinux usb creator, i tried Unetbootin but it was dog shit, i have no idea what it did but it really fucked up the iso, now i'm trying rufus

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>>56976286
>Is Arch being shit a meme?
Yes. There some butthurt shitposters in /g/ who live to shitpost about Arch

>>56976227

>manharo

Was that tongue-in-cheek or am I pronouncing it wrongly?

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>>56971345
>this thread right next to dpt

>>56976304


Here's some words of wisdom for you comment posting idiots. You people think your opinions are so important and that you possess some natural-born expertise. But take it from ME, a REAL expert, when I say your comments are even more stupider than you people making them. Now I have a lot of experience, so when I say something, it counts. That's because I'm very important and I know what I'm talking about, unlike feeble-minded you. I see you want to retort by posting a reply, do you? PSHAW!!! You can't post a reply to me because you're speechless, and you're too AFRAID. Besides, no one wants to hear your stupidness anyway.

Do you know who I am? I have 9 black belts, 15 Masters degrees and a PhD in Arithmetic. That's right, you know I'm way better than you, and my legions of admiring followers will all proudly tell you just how great and awesome I truly am! Have you seen my power level? It's over 9000! You know what that means? It means I have more than 9000 units of POWER. It also puts my total adjusted force rating at 22000! That's more than triple, so you don't want to make me mad, because anger is my middle name, and when I get angry I cause earthquacks as I stomp forth with full power, so beware my indignation.

Remember: He who laughs last, laughs last.
I can see you now, trembling with fear and trepidation as you try to muster the courage to write a reply to my comment. But let's face it, you wouldn't DARE write a reply to my comment because you're all too AFRAID.

what do these errors mean when booting the installation disk? (xenserver 7)
>disable aspm on pre 1.1 pcie device
>pci bridge to [bus 00-01]

i have no option in the bios (i'm aware of) to disable that

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>>56976286
Arch is okay. Ignore the Arch community for the most part if you like Arch in itself.

Why am I getting back "no ultimately trusted keys found" after importing a key using

gpg --keyserver <name> --recv-keys <key ID>

In the gpg man pages, in the configuration options section under "--keyserver name", it states that "This option is deprecated ― please use the --keyserver in ‘dirmngr.conf’ instead." Could that statement somehow be related?

What worries me even more is that when I continued to --verify the respective DIGESTS.asc file, the fingerprint it returned contained an extra space (around the half-way mark) that the 'official' fingerprint which was listed online didn't have. Is it normal for the terminal generated fingerprint to have the extra space there?

how do i get spotify on linux?

How can i delete everything about VIM?
All configs, plugins and shits

what's the linux equivilent to task manager on windows? and how hard is it to use?

>>56978490
System monitor, it is same like task manager and a bit better. For example you can close app much faster with "kill" option.

>>56978473

find ~/{.vim*,} -delete

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>>56978490
KSysguard
xfce-taskmanager

>>56978225
sudo apt-add-repository -y "deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free" &&
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys D2C19886 &&
sudo apt-get update -qq &&
sudo apt-get install spotify-client

>>56978555
You really don't know how find works, do you?

>>56977067
jej

Is there a way to test yakety yak through updates?

I start liking this ganoox thing, to be frank. I spent all of yesterday installing it and setting it up to my taste and now I start to see why you like your ganoox so much.
The biggest difference to me? Instant web page loading. On windows it's like there is a latency when you load web pages.

>0 (zero) linux DEs with a decent tablet mode

i dont want to use windows but what am i to do?

2 things:

1. Seen a lot of hate for fedora. I know you need rpmfusion for some specific software you might need. Aside from that, what's the issue?

2. Since I've been always having trouble with dual booting windows and linux through UEFI, should I just do it again the old legacy style?

>>56979129
probably not the same, But I've never had any issues with gnome on a touchscreen. unity looks like it wouldn't be bad either

>>56979176
yeah touching stuff on the screen is fine. the problems come when you want autorotation, on screen keyboard for every instance its required, automatically change certain aspects of the DE for finger usage/readability.

>>56978490
Top+kill or htop

>>56979216
What about https://launchpad.net/magick-rotation

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>>56971345
I downloaded firefox from website, now how do i get firefox to go on the dock and be able to be found when searching for it like a program installed from an RPM.

I can open up firefox and use it, but it's folder is on my desktop///

>>56979139
>what's the issue?
Depends on who you ask. Some don't like that it's redhat testing distro. Then there's the non-free packages not being offered but they will use proprietary drivers.
If that doesn't bother you then there are no issues.

2. Try their own USB creator to see if UEFI works.
https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/

>>56979264
>https://launchpad.net/magick-rotation
i wasnt able to get it working properly on my machine, or rather it worked but didnt rotate the stylus input, messing up the touch screen.

im going to try iio-sensor though

>>56973481
>extensive development cycle
You forgot to mention that the extensiveness in eth cycle is that just before release some dude screams up about one feature that is life or death to him and holds the entire cycle hostage to his screaming.

One it was held up to get the latest bash, a decision that came so late that the release was delayed for more than a year from what I remember.

So if you want action without the drama queans you should go for Ubuntu.

>>56979315
what theme is that?

>>56979432
https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1099906/


https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1012538/

I have a bit of an audio problem homies. In order for pulse audio to detect my headphones as sinks I have to pull them out and plug them back in everytime I boot into Arch. Have you guys got any fixes apart from just what I'm doing at the moment?

>>56979618
Few years ago when i was using dual boot, i had that similar problem.
So im using windows and i restart pc, start ubuntu, no audio. When i restart again it works. But when i mute my speakers on windows, restart, boot ubuntu, everything worked. Dont know what was problem

>>56979666
Hmm interesting because I'm dual booting too ~ I'll try muting speakers in windows and then booting into arch and see what happens

So debian creates this nice 16gb swap partition on my pc, I guess because I'm currently using 16gb of ram

Since I don't hibernate and I doubt I will run lots of virtual machines for the fuck of it, how small should I set it?

>>56979965
Remove it and create a swap file if needed.

>>56979965
I got a 8GBram and never used my swap partition, now I just don't use one, unless the computer is very old and I'm afraid of not having enough ram

>>56979692
did it worked?

So I tried installing debian testing. First I got some prompt to load specific network drivers that I skipped assuming they would still work because the installer didn't have trouble with internet access. On UEFI I had trouble so I had to use refind to boot it even.

And what I find afterwards is that debian ain't booting after showing up an error that it's not able to boot radeon kms without Linux firmware nonfree. And of course, when I get into recovery mode it turns out I don't have a connection to install that and I don't have any interface available except for loopback.

How the hell did I get into this mess from a normal installation of debian testing?

>>56980481
What do you mean by a 'normal installation of debian testing'? You used one of the experimental installers?

>>56980481
You fucked up.

I don't get why people don't just use the non-free ISO
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

>>56980537
>>56980526
nvm fixed it

didn't run dhclient

I have a question about ALSA config.

First, the output from 'aplay -l':

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

ALC887-VD Digital is the default output of my computer. This is the headphone jack. I would like to make HDMI 0 the default output. Both outputs belong to the same (and only) card: card 0. I want to make device 3 of card 0 the default output, somehow.

My current .'asoundrc':

pcm.!default {
    type hw
    card 0
}

ctl.!default {
    type hw
    card 0
}

How do I set the device number of the card in .asoundrc?

i'm sorry guys,i really tried to like linux but it always disappoint me one way or another.

I could prolly "fix it" but it would take hours.

Shit just don't make sense.

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>>56980677

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Why does the "global dark theme" in GNOME not affect Firefox?

The thing with Arch is, it promises to be *simple* and *lightweight*. Shipping no official installer makes people think that these adjectives are used correctly and that Arch follows *Tha Arch Way* of keeping thing simple.

Now what's the meme about Arch? It doesn't break more than any other rolling realease distros and it isn't a distro *specially designed* for ricing (you can rice every distro the same way as Arch). Arch is a meme because people fall for The Arch Way, KISS, simplicity and lightweight buzzwords. Arch works for everyone because the kernel is shipped with all modules enabled, no matter if the users needs drivers for his hardware or not, they are there. Simplicity here is mistaken, the better word would be convenience. So it's convenient and lightweight? Convenient and bloated. With a closer look into their package system, you see that Arch packages are not splitted into binary, source code, etc like on other distros; so you actually install more than actually needed, which isn't KISS, but simple, just like the kernel principle. Simplicity in Arch language means bloat, and this is the meme Arch users are falling for. Especially when they call distros that come with preinstalled DE's bloated, not knowing that installing something on Arch pulls more megabytes than any other distro.

>>56980846

YOur Firefox might not be compiled with GTK3 support, but GTK2.

>>56980850
Meant to quote: >>56976286

>>56980846
>5 different UI toolkits on one machine/linux
>gtk2/3 split because web languages r kewl
>consistent styling ever again

allahu ackbar gnome foundation headquarters to fix this

>>56980850
whaaaaat????? bloated packages???? but package counts mean you don't have a lot of software! fewer packages = double plus good

i bet you think systemd isn't simple. its commands are shorter and easier than sysvinits!

>>56980850
this, arch is fine, the users are the problem

>hahaha, I'm new lets install arch because everyone installed it
>hahaha, I'm new lets install zsh because everyone installed it
and so on

>q: hey /g/ how to make my fonts look good? I'm using arch if it matters
>a: install infinality because everyone installed it

the true arch spirit

>>56980884

>allahu ackbar gnome foundation headquarters to fix this

>i have no idea what i'm talking about, but i'll pretend that i know maybe i can trick some other idiots into believing that i'm smart

Kill yourself.

>>56976286
debian was my first distro. debian stable broke more often than arch.

community distros rely on community to alert them to problems with scenarios the main devs can't test. debian in particular is very reliant on bug reports to determine if software goes into stable or not, and debian uses older software that has fewer users so it doesn't get as many bug reports from outside its own userbase. a problem with a specific version of an intel graphics driver somehow went unreported for months.

arch broke less, but that's because it was always on upstream's latest and had the full benefit of more people reporting more bugs directly to people who know how to fix the problem

and when arch did break, downgrading packages was 100000% easier than version faking and pinning in debian (as to not piss off apt)

>>56980923
GNOME is solely responsible for the lack of backwards compatibility in gtk3. They designed it. They replaced the theme format with CSS and then subtly changed how the widgets responded to it every release. They started deprecating widgets because GNOME's HIG doesn't need them. GNOME makes gtk3 and is responsible for everything shit about it. There aren't a lot of people outside GNOME working on it.

The gtk2/3 split is all GNOME's fault, and people aren't adopting gtk3 because of GNOME. gtk2 was a free UI toolkit, gtk3 is libgnome.

If you got rid of GNOME right now, gtk2 would slowly take over again because the vast majority of users don't give a fuck wayland compatibility or about how much better wayland is for rice effects

>>56980978
>debian uses older software
into the trash your post goes, you have no idea what you are talking about

also debian has apt-listbugs, which informs the user if something could go wrong, arch lacks such a feature

>>56981035
He's talking about Debian stable (no apt-listbugs).

That said, "broken Debian stable", kek.
>>56980978
What the hell did you do to break the most stable system on earth?

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How does linux/mpv handle fonts?
There is this video file with .ass subtitle and a folder that contain the necessary fonts.
How do I use that?
Do I have to move the fonts to ~.local/share/fonts, then rebuild the font cash?
Or I need to have the fonts/subtitle/video in the same folder?

>>56981035
debian unstable exists, but even that's out of date half the time by maybe a version. who reports the blocking bug when nobody is using the program? if it builds fine and nobody complains, down the line it goes.

>>56981070
didn't report a bug that made it through a volunteer-dependent system

>>56980978
>debian was my first distro. debian stable broke more often than arch.

Maybe Debian "broke more often" because it was your first distro and you didn't know what the fuck you were doing?

Also what you said in the rest of your post seems to ignore the fact that Debian stable is one version of Debian. If you want software closer to upstream you can use testing or sid.

You can use Arch all you want but that post doesn't really prove anything about the stability of Arch or Debian.

>>56981084
>font $
Doesn't found like freedom

>>56981110
Excuse me?

>>56981097
BSD was my first OS kid. It didn't break from user error, it broke from bugs.

I experienced plenty of bugs in debian stable and reported them when i figured out how to reproduce them, but

>STABLE release
>bugs

I don't trust neckbeards to verify the stability and security of software they aren't personally developing and shouldn't have in the first place. If they say they do that, it's a false promise.

>>56981016

>GNOME is solely responsible for the lack of backwards compatibility in gtk3. They designed it. They replaced the theme format with CSS and then subtly changed how the widgets responded to it every release. They started deprecating widgets because GNOME's HIG doesn't need them. GNOME makes gtk3 and is responsible for everything shit about it. There aren't a lot of people outside GNOME working on it.
Don't like it, don't use it. Unsatisfied with the changes? Fork it and improve it. You won't though, because you can't. You can only complain about inane and ridiculous things like "only GNOME people working on GTK".
You didn't name any technical arguments for GTK2 or why they made some mistakes by "deprecating widgets" or "switching to CSS theming".

>, gtk2 would slowly take over again because the vast majority of users don't give a fuck wayland compatibility or about how much better wayland is for rice effects
I see you're an idiot who thinks that Wayland is only good for "rice effects". There's no point in arguing with idiots like you. Enjoy your little misinformed anger, which you think makes you sound smart and knowledgable. Trust me, it doesn't.

How does /fglt/ train itself not the get angry in this thread?

>>56981200

Telling idiots, who post retarded and idiotic myths and memes, to kill themselves helps.

Hey guys,

I tried installing asus rt5592 drivers on my desktop and it turns out it's not compatible with 14.04 ubuntu. (This includes the patched versions and all). Should I just get another wifi adapter card? And is it okay to have 2 wifi adapter cards in a computer at once?

>>56981200
looking at the website url, alcohol

>>56981214
>friendly

>>56980850
I think the arch way is toward the user without going deep in the technical. I mean that arch is a daily use distribution that is easy to install, it doesn't take a lot of time, installing the software you want and maintaining it is easy.
So the arch way and the KISS is pretty much relevant, since you will have a base system, that works whatever your hardware, and you will be able to install the packages you need, you will avoid having too many stuff.

>>56981172
>Fork gt3
How do you fork the morons who use gtk3 because it's the new hotness? How do you fork the morons that use gtk2 because gtk3 is shit? Fork everything they make?

That doesn't sound like a good idea

>improve gtk3
People try and are shot down because gnome doesn't need or want their idea. If it's not in line with the goals of gnome, gnome software doesn't get it, even if it doesn't affect gnome. Period.

>Guys wayland is so good
>We can do 3d efficiently now
Yeah, no, wayland is literally garbage. We should just run X without compositing instead

and stop making garbage software that locks up the display server instead of using a garbage display server that can't be locked up

>>56981149
You said you experienced more bugs in Debian stable than you did in Arch but that's anecdotal evidence it doesn't prove anything. I can say I have a server with Debian stable and I've never had problems with it but that doesn't prove anything.

It's very simple, before software reaches Debian stable it's used by many people in sid and then in testing. where it is freezed and tested for months before it becomes stable. In Arch software is pulled from upstream straight to the user, so by design Debian stable is more tested and is on average less prone to breakage than Arch.

>I don't trust neckbeards to verify the stability and security of software they aren't personally developing and shouldn't have in the first place. If they say they do that, it's a false promise.

What? Are you talking about Arch?

Are there any linux application to make something like this?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Focal_segmental_glomerulosclerosis.webm

Does anybody use gentoo? Do you think i could i use as a daily driver? Btw could i run it smoothly on my laptop because it's kinda old

>>56981200
I don't
I don't even know why I'm still here
And I'm talking about the whole board.
/g/ is full of tech illiterates, /v/tards and normalfags. Just dumb people in general.
Holy shit I hate this board.

>>56981264

>How do you fork the morons who use gtk3 because it's the new hotness? How do you fork the morons that use gtk2 because gtk3 is shit? Fork everything they make?
How is that relevant at all? Why do you care what other people use? How do you even live your life?

>People try and are shot down because gnome doesn't need or want their idea. If it's not in line with the goals of gnome, gnome software doesn't get it, even if it doesn't affect gnome. Period.
I keep hearing that argument over and over again, but never see any proof of their contributions towards GTK being unreasonably turned down. Even if they get turned down, it's free software; they can patch it in themselves. If their fork is worth it, it will eventually overtake the original upstream version.

>Yeah, no, wayland is literally garbage. We should just run X without compositing instead
I don't know much about display servers to dispute you, but that sounds retarded and wrong. Very wrong. I seriously doubt you know what you're talking about, because even to me as a layman it sounds like irrelevant bullshit. Too bad we don't have someone with actual knowledge here to rip your bullshit apart.
Honestly, it's quite embarrassing, but fortunately this is anonymous, on the internet. I just realized that I was talking to an idiot.

>>56981321

Yes, animation software together with a video editor. KDEnlive for the video editor, no idea about animation software.

>>56981326
Some
Maybe
Can, but compiling would take long.
I'm running gentoo on my RPi3.

>>56981372
So whenever i need to install a package i need to compilie it? Is compiling really that slow

>>56981348
Why do I care? Maybe because a bunch of morons will inevitably keep software better maintained than a small cat-v-esque crew with force of numbers and dominate the market that doesn't know any better.

>but never see any proof of their contributions towards GTK being unreasonably turned down
that's why vte-ng and ahoka's gtk don't exist.

>>56981402
Compiling is slow as fuck.

>>56981326

>daily driver
That's a buzzphrase and only idiots use it. Ask a normal question and you might get a normal answer.

>>56981371
>KDEnlive
It seems KDE have a lot of fancy stuff.
But this only to add the voice over.
The animation software is the most important part.

>>56981402
Depends on the hardware.
Have you used AUR before?
Also
>Error: You must wait 2 seconds before posting a reply.
4chan Pass users have lower cooldowns.

Anyone has experiences with bunsenlabs? Is it an okayish distro when I need a quick+lightweight just werks debian? If not, what would you recommend? No time for setting up something myself.

>>56981411
I actually want to use gentoo as my main os, i won't be installing that many packages anyway but is it gentoo that bad?

>>56981405

I don't know about vte-ng, but GTK2 isn't receiving any new features but only bug fixes. That's why they most likely won't merge the icon view in. Also, did he submit an official patch? Did it go through the whole process? Was it tested enough? I seriously doubt that. Even if he did, the point from above (only bug fixes) still stands.

>>56981371
studio ghibli's software is open source and on linux i think

https://opentoonz.github.io/e/index.html

>>56981452

Yes, you have no time to set things up yourself, but you have time to wait on here for a completely subjective answer that you're going to trust blindly and potentially waste the same amount of time.

>>56981477
It's not bad but compiling large things takes a while, if you have patience give it a try.

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>>56981451

>>56981493
>>56981433

That might be overkill.
Krita might be more than enough, especially since it's still getting improvements (also on the animation side, if I remember correctly).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uvju6sUNJA

>>56981452
Try it.

>>56981451
I got 4 gigs of ram and 2.00 ghz cpu pretty old laptop also

UEFI or legacy BIOS for a single-OS system? I really, really, dislike UEFI despite the limitations of BIOS, and I don't think I need GPT.

>>56981507
Doesn't seem to do what I want.
Unless I have to re-draw each frame.

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What is the deal with Apricity? Is it just a pre-configured Arch or does it use its own repos like Manjaro?

Yesterday I was struggling installing linux. Today I apt-get shit like it's a second nature. It's a good feel.

Compton causes MASSIVE tearing.
It doesnt output any errors to sdout
Why is this

>>56982737
>inb4 Wayland shill pipes up

>>56982773
wayland is shit, and all the de/wm that support it are absolute shit

Is it possible to make MPV always use the same instance? For example when you keep on opening new files, it should open them in the existing window instead of opening 10 new windows for each file.

>>56982720
If you learn how to write shell scripts, you may feel even better.

>>56982821
And close the previously opened files or what is it supposed to do?

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Is there a simple way to DIM the WGET progress bar?
I tried TPUT DIM, but WGET still uses the full-bright level.

>sudo make uninstall
>no uninstall target

what did the developer(s) mean by this?

>>56982955
Surely it's linked to your terminal colours?

>>56982870

Yes, replace the playing file with the newly loaded file. Sometimes I like to click through a bunch of videos in my directory and having to constantly close windows is annoying. Every other media player I used before did this.

>>56982971

That's why you always package your software properly.

How do I get good sound on a qemu/kvm windows guest? I tried 7/10, alsa/pulseaudio, hda, ac97, my GPU's soundcard, it doesn't make a difference it's all horribly crackly.

>>56983018
>qemu
What are you even doing?

What's the latest intel CPU with good support in the average LTS distro /fglt/?

I'm about to upgrade my dev toaster and I'd like to have it just-work so I can settle back into my work with minimal interruption installing bandaids.

>inb4 Arch supports the latest hardware
Non-production quality distros need not apply. I do work on this computer not just shitposting.

>>56982989
I could not understand what you meant. My terminal is capable of DIMMING, but not on WGET. I suppose WGET disables DIM when it runs. I wanted to know if this is right.

>>56983093
>LTS
>just-work
>production quality
>he fell for the LTS meme

>>56983093
Skylake is coming along. Not much of an issue unless you're an illiterate ubuntu window-licker. Assuming you mean a desktop build the amount of problems you'll run into are trivial.

Laptops are another question. Can't help you with that. My newest is a T61 going on ten years old.

>>56983093
>tfw want a kaby lake machine but scared it won't work on loonix

g-guess my chinkpad can hold for another year or two

>>56983008

man mpv

>Every other
Every other media player is a bloated piece of shit

>>56983200
>le memes
Fuck off jobless NEET.

>>56983201
Was kind of hoping to move to a laptop and dock setup but not sold on it just yet.

>>56982821
mpv file1 file2 file3
while playing:
loadfile <file> [replace|append|append-play [options]]

>>56983200
This nigga is right. Learned it the hard way. With LTS you end up with 2 package updates a week and basically need to reinstall your distro to get more packages than just security updates.

Don't get me wrong guys, LTS is a good idea the same way Debian stable is a good idea, but if you want up to date software (I dont mean rolling), LTS isn't fun.

>>56983536
Both of you niggers must be unemployed then because nobody does production on a rolling release platform.

Why is searx.me so slow today? Anyone knows a faster mirror?

>>56983584
https://github.com/asciimoo/searx/wiki/Searx-instances

>>56983093

>production quality
Nice buzzphrases you got. Does it make you feel important when you use them?

>>56983618
Holy, didn't know there are already so many.
>http://stats.searx.oe5tpo.com/

>>56983622
Having a job that requires you to not play with configs several hours a day isn't a meme kid. Grow the fuck up.

>>56983200
>he doesn't use arch because muh stability
Confirmed for not knowing how to linux

>>56983093
The latest Debian support is probably some chipset from five years ago so that's what? Ivy bridge?

lol

>>56983243

>has a feature that someone would use
>bloat

You do not know the meaning of bloat. I suggest you don't use words whose meaning you don't know.

>>56983455

I just tried loadfile and it works. However I don't see how I can use it the way I inteded. I had to put it in my input.conf and bind to a key. I also don't understand how to pass a filename to it. Is the input config file the right place to use it?

>>56983669

Long term support releases has nothing to do with "playing with configs". Way to prove that you have no idea what you're talking about and lying on the internet. Pathetic.
What do you get out of this? A kick?

>>56983200
>>56983201
>>56983232
>>56983246
>>56983536
>>56983582
>>56983622
>>56983669
>>56983718
Jesus Christ....

>>56983093
The answer is broadwell at the moment. Now stop feeding the trolls.

>>56983723
MPV is a media player.Such "features" are out of the scope of what a media player is, a program that runs media files.

I want my media player to magically read my mind via mind prove and tell what video i want to play next or make a playlist, sure this can be done, but at what point is this "feature" relevant?

>>56983669
Since when turned /g/ into a place for insecure beta males who need to call others VIRGINS and NEETS?

>>56983766
Thanks.

>>56983793
Please, be friendly on the friendly thread.

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How can I flush ram on linux?

>>56983965
sync

>>56983965
Why?
linuxatemyram.com

>>56983771
When I want to watch every video in my folder in order? Like, if I download a show into a folder, and want to binge watch it. Like fucking anyone who watches more than one episode of a show at a time and downloads shows. Im not even such a person, but thats a massively common use case.
Saying the extra features arent part of a 'media player' doesn't fucking delegitimize them, prove they're bad and shouldn't be implimented. If it makes you feel better, call such a thing a 'media center' program or something. You can think of it as a lighter, more media-player like version of ones that take up the whole screen or whatever. Christ.
Oh, and mine is playing files the media /with MPV/
ANYWAYS,
/g/
How do I make video games(such as Yume Nikki through wine, or the aur yume nikki package) with MIDI files in them actually play these MIDIs, without them sounding like utter and complete shit like the AUR YN seems to by default?
Bonus if it makes midi files open automatically in whatever media player.

is sharing over ssh the least painful way to share files over the network on linux?

>>56984400
ftp

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If I use a totally proprietary router firmware, is there any advantage in replacing it by a partially proprietary firmware ?

>>56984502
extra Customization maybe.

>>56984502
>totally proprietary router firmware,
Who even bothers to make such a thing?

>>56984525
Freedom remains totally fucked?

>>56984546
Intelbras >>56972754
I mean, I saw no GPL text on the manual...

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How do get systemdshit to stop raping my i/o when nothing is running.Journald dosent respect ANY of the configurations i set.

>>56984563
>GPL
And? GPL isn't the only non-proprietary licence

>>56984670
How can I know if my router has freermware then?

>>56979459
Thanks for the theme my dawg. It's sexy af.

>>56984704
Have you tried reading the manual?

>>56984728
See: >>56984563

>>56984739
See what? GPL text doesn't mean shit.

I'm using Devuan
my problem is that I added the jessie-backports repo (from Devuan mirror) (because I need the newer nvidia driver) and now apt wants to upgrade everything from it!!

Not like you would do on Debian that It will install a package from backports only if you explicitly say so.

Can anyone help me with the apt config?

>>56984357
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/TOOLS/lua/autoload.lua

>>56984771
I've checked the User Guide again, there is no information about licenses, nor about most configurations.

Is Manjaro good? It looks pretty nice with the new KDE Plasma interface, imo. I've yet to try it out though.

>>56979315
You make a desktop entry or stop being new by using your package manager.

>>56984855
Desktop entrys are shit and i can't install Firefox developer edition pakcage

>>56984797
Did you use these repos? https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-backports.list

So I'm using debian with gnome 3.22 right now. I would want to have notifications for new emails without having to open evolution or whatever email client. That possible?

>>56984953
Yes. I think I have found the problem by myself. Thanks anyway

>>56984972
you could make it run on startup

>>56985002
Maybe I'll do that. Would be also nice if it would start minimized but I'll see what I can do.

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