NSA has lost some terrorists because of encryption, its top lawyer

Good

>>56964623
That's the cost of freedom - nobody said it was free. If you want to ban a branch of mathematics because of terrorists then you play right in to their hands.

What next... ban pen and paper? Terrorists can use that, too...

>>56964648

>if you defeat your enemies, you're playing into their hands!

Nice try, Trudeau! You can take your libtard shit elsewhere now.

>>56964642
Edgy.

>>56964648
How exactly would giving up military-grade encryption that you don't even need compromise your freedom, anon?

>>56964663
You've clearly failed to understand. If you keep removing freedoms because of terrorists then you're doing their work for them. Look at the media... too scared to even show a caricature.

Meeting in mosques... letters... you can't stop people discussing horrific ideas. Easy enough for you to understand, retard? Good.

>>56964677
"Military-grade" is just another way of saying strong. If you think encryption is only used to hide CP, etc. then you're very ill-educated.

>>56964677
>how do restrictions restrict your freedom?

>>56964688
>>56964702
>>56964711
Whoa, NAMBLA and Muslim Brotherhood shills out in full force this morning!

>He said the NSA sees ISIS terrorists using end-to-end encryption, and that has prevented the agency from finding out the key information about those bad actors.

then why he doesn't jusy kill them? this lying piece of shit.

he's just saying he guess the terrorists use encryption

>>56964714
Please do explain what "logic" you use to get from someone supporting freedoms to them being a Muslim. I'm curious.

File: 1474067795640.jpg (115KB, 750x746px) Image search: [Google]

115KB, 750x746px

I encrypt most of my devices even though I'm not doing anything "wrong". I just like the sense of privacy, is all.

Hell, this applies even more on phones nowadays, considering the shitload of data (on average) they have on you.

>>56964731
>"wrong"
>in quotes
What are you trying to hide, anon? You might not consider it wrong, but that doesn't mean it's not illegal.

>Encryption is banned for non military use
>Chinese/Russian/Terrorist hackers clean up everyone bank account and bitcoin wallets

Good job anti encryption faggots

File: distortion.png (645KB, 710x941px) Image search: [Google]

645KB, 710x941px

>>56964623
The United States of America (USA) is in my view no longer a full democracy,
but rather a hybrid regime in which a corrupt Federal Reserve serves as the
front for a corporate state that has captured both Congress and the
legislature. The USA is a two-party tyranny that no longer abides by the
principles of the Constitution.

Sure, "terrorists"

>>56964750

Please take your Sovereign Citizen struggle against the Tyranny of Admiralty Law to your designated containment board.

>>56964663
Terrorism isn't about conventional victory. They're not going to keep blowing stuff up until they've toppled the US. Terrorism kills about as many people as lightning in an average year and is vastly less dangerous than almost any other source of death.

Terrorism is specifically about instilling fear (hint's in the name, really) and causing the west to turn on itself in pursuit of the pointless goal of "stopping terrorism".

File: 1471005684725.jpg (163KB, 1280x414px) Image search: [Google]

163KB, 1280x414px

>>56964741
>it's called a "personal computer"
>wonders why I want things to be seen only by me, and not by anybody else I don't approve of


Anyway, I have loads of music, personal photos (travels, artsy ones, architecture, etc.), audio projects, video (and company logos) projects, and some movies. Nothing out of the ordinary.

>>56964711
>what is the GPL?
Sometimes restrictions grant you more freedom, anon.

The government considers all 4chan etc. posters potential terrorists FYI , so if you use encryption they're probably talking about you

>>56964877
Is this supposed to be scary or something? If everyone's on the watchlist, that drastically reduces the likelihood anyone is looking closely at me in particular.

>>56964877
So people who don't use encryption and go to 4chan just dumb terrorists?

>this b8 thread again
Goddamn, we should just delete /g/ at this point

I list the ten high-level threats to humanity here in their original priority order:
Poverty
Infectious Disease
Environmental Degradation
Inter-State Conflict
Civil War
Genocide
Other Atrocities
Proliferation
Terrorism
Transnational Crime
Terrorism (and now "Cyber Terrorism") are nothing more than get rich quick schemes being peddeled by snake oil salesmen to steal our tax dollars. We can't even stop shit here on our own soil, let alone in other countries or in the "cyber" realm. Enjoy getting jewed shills. This shit's no better than hanging garlic in your house to scare away the boogeyman. Spend the money on humanity if you want to see any real difference.

>>56964623
Holy shit you sad autistic NEET, how many threads will you make? Did your parents out a lock on your gaymen console or something?

>>56964918
>the ten high-level threats to humanity
>Terrorism
Out.

File: 12463612.jpg (30KB, 720x438px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 720x438px

>>56964623
>It's working
Nice

Encrypting my disc right now

>>56964918
>no mention of income inequality, gender inequality, hate speech, breaches of reproductive and sexual rights, human traficking
Wew lad!

>>56964947
Apart from income inequality, do you really think those are problems?

>>56964623
>NSA lost to an encryption algorithm
Which one is it, /g/? I want to know one that works. Is it AES?

>>56964919
>if a lot of threads about a subject I don't want being discussed show up, then I must accuse them of being orchestrated by a single person in order to keep the status quo
Nice topic dilution tactic, you nigger.

>>56964928
I'm not saying it actually is a threat. This is a list that broadly covers every concievable form of threat to civilization. Notice how terrorism is at the bottom of the list, my friend?

>>56964952
I bet you're going to vote for Trump, faggot.

>>56964726
He's just retarded or an NSA shill.

>Oh my kek you don't want to ban the sale of gas to civilians? Terrorcunts use it to run people over with trucks.

That's the level of his argument.

>>56964964
No I actually want to know why are you so butthurt, you have been posting the same fucking thread for weeks now?

How the fuck do you find this level of motivation?

>>56964962
some paid NSA shitposter will recommend you the most backdoored encryption out there. Don't be a retard and trust this board.

File: 14204834642981).png (192KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

192KB, 300x300px

>>56964952
What, you think they aren't?

>>56964623
kill yourself, I already know where this thread leads. Nothing but shitposting

>>56964947
>no mention of income inequality, gender inequality, hate speech, breaches of reproductive and sexual rights, human traficking
That kind of falls under Other Atrocities. A lot of those are precursors to Genocide, which ultimately is a higher threat to human life.

>>56964677
You do fucking need said military-grade encryption every fucking time you access some sensitive material like home banking.
What a fucking retard you are, I fell bad for your parents.

File: hillaryinfrared.png (365KB, 634x1024px) Image search: [Google]

365KB, 634x1024px

>>56964971
>he's going to vote for hillary clinton

>>56965046
Why would you need MILITARY grade encryption for home banking, you dumbass?

>>56965073
I don't understand this neckbeard lmfao

Can some one explain what does he mean by ""military grade encryption"" ?

>>56965073
>Why would you need MILITARY grade encryption for home banking, you dumbass?
Why WOULDN'T you use the most effective tool in every scenario it was proven to be effective in?

>>56965081

That's not a new or meme expression by any means. Bruce Schneier uses it in his book Applied Cryptography.

Why are you here discussing a subject you are a total ignorant about?

>>56965073
Because there are only two types of encryption: strong encryption (or "military grade") if you prefer, and encryption that any petty criminal can break and is therefore useless. There is no in-between.

>>56965115
No I want to know what YOU mean by that term? Explain in YOUR words, neckbeard hehehe

>>56965073
Because when you access home banking without encryption someone could be able to sniff the traffic and steal your credentials (yes I know there is 2 factor authentication and shit but that also relies on strong encryption).
There is another fucking million of examples where strong encryption is absolutely needed.

>Making math illegal

Are you retarded?

>>56965062
HilLOLI CLITton

>>56965112
Have you ever heard of overkill?

>>56965119
Stop spreading that myth. There's also nice and secure civilian-grade encryption with secure backdoors for law enforcement that can't be exploited by criminals and which is more than enough for online shopping and uploading naked pictures of your wife to OneDrive.

>>56965130
>without encryption
Who's suggesting that?

>>56965135
>i-it's just math, g-guys!
>and nukes are j-just physics, okay?

>and some purely random mathematical sequences by mere accident produce moving pictures that photo-realistically resemble the image of a 10-year old girl having sex with a 42-year old man
>that's just math! you wouldn't ban math, would you?

>>56965137
>overkill
What does it over"kill"?

>>56965137
>secure backdoors

just kill yourself

So they somehow can't catch pedophiles because of encryption. But they can find the silkroad servers and catch many other Tor user who are using End To End Encryption ?

I feel this is an NSA ploy to try to make encryption look bad.

>>56965154
>use military-grade encryption for banking
>now authorities can't investigate fraud
Well done.

>>56964877
4chan is just a site nowadays, it's not the super secred haxxor club that you think it is

>>56965161

You're memeing too hard, anon.

File: 1475554329148.jpg (34KB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 640x360px

>>56964677
>military-grade encryption
kek

>>56965166
Why is that my headache? Do I have to use some half assed encryption to accommodate their incompetence?

>>56964623
The US intelligence agencies need to get off their asses and get back in the field.

They'd be really screwed if ISIS started using paper and pencils.

File: tin-foil-hat.jpg (26KB, 383x161px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 383x161px

>>56965162
You might wanna loosen that tinfoil hat a bit, it's cutting blood flow off your brain.

>>56965176
I still don't understand what the neckbeard means by military grade hehehehe

>>56964677
>military-grade encryption

What's next? Only Secret clearance to learn math?

>>56965137
>Who's suggesting that?
So, what the fuck are you suggesting? Roll back to some weak ass algorithms that can be cracked in half an our?
Or even better, make a strong crypto with backdoors? Then roll that shit into wall fucking street softwares and just wait for some shady ass russian cracker to find the flaw and fuck up the whole world? Or in some "special" cases we should still stick to non-backdoored crypto? Who decides what cases are special and what are not?
Jesus christ, you and everyone proposing to weak crypto are not only retarded but also dangerous and should be revoked the right to vote.

>>56965184

Stop muddying the waters, military-grade has a clear meaning. You're an obvious ISIS shill.

>>56965148
Never said that. Your a fool if you think you'd be able to stop people from using encryption if they want it. You'd stop the average joe, but criminals would still use it even if it was illegal. Hence why I find this whole discussion pointless, you can outlaw it but how will that stop criminals from using it if there already breaking the law?

>>56965182
It's actually much more useful to lie about the ability compromise those systems than lying about not being able to break them.

>>56965182
in OP's article the faggot plainly admits he can see the terrorists

File: 1459917475809.jpg (141KB, 1111x597px) Image search: [Google]

141KB, 1111x597px

>>56965193
>has a clear meaning
What does it mean? lmfao
What makes an encryption algorithm ""military grade""?

>I'm now isis
hehehe tick tick, motherfucker kek

>>56965193
No it doesn't.

Not from a scientific perspective anyways.

>>56965191

>THE RUSSIANS ARE GONNA FIND THE BACKDOORS AND USE THEM AGAINST US!!!!11
Stop spreading FUD, that's mathematically impossible as long as we use asymmetric backdoors.


>An asymmetric backdoor can only be used by the attacker who plants it, even if the full implementation of the backdoor becomes public (e.g., via publishing, being discovered and disclosed by reverse engineering, etc.). Also, it is computationally intractable to detect the presence of an asymmetric backdoor under black-box queries.

File: 1475440547723.png (262KB, 500x600px) Image search: [Google]

262KB, 500x600px

>>56965193

>>56965200
>but criminals would still use it even if it was illegal
Well, if they do, they get nicked. So if the goal was stopping them, regulating encryption worked flawlessly!

>>56965210
See >>56965115
Read a book once in your life.

>>56965148
We could use your retarded logic to argue our government is Adolph Hitlers Third Reich too.Encryption is math. What you're doing is adding some element of evil to the concept of encryption. Should we outlaw the air we breathe because it can carry mustard gas or virtually thousands of other deadly chemicals? You're like a caveman who can't see beyond his emotion driven instincts.

File: Screenshot_2016-10-08_01-34-02.png (249KB, 1085x436px) Image search: [Google]

249KB, 1085x436px

>2016
>Not using a military grade mousepad
Are you poor, /g/?

>>56965238
>military grade mousepad
Ever heard of overkill? XDDD
ur isis :-DDD

>>56965187

You can freely learn physics but that doesn't mean anyone's gonna let you build an atom bomb in your garage, you fucktard.

File: Screenshot_2016-10-08_01-36-12.png (315KB, 688x458px) Image search: [Google]

315KB, 688x458px

Anyone else ITT have a military grade gaming box?

>>56965265
I only purchase Military-grade hardware from MSI®. Helped me a lot during Desert Storm.

>>56965252
>build an atom bomb in your garage
What did he mean by this?

>>56965301
Confirmed for terrorist gamer :^)

>>56965265
/v/aginas confirmed for threats to national security.

>>56965265
I have a millitary-grade body if you catch my drift (;

>>56965214
Oh, that's great, OP at least can search on wikipedia.
So, who get to keep the keys to said backdoors? Who do we globally trust with those keys?
What you are proposing is fucking retarded and not doable because encryption math is open, everyone can implement crypto shit and can decide to not add backdoors.

>>56965238
>>56965265
>"military-grade" can be a marketing term exploited by wild capitalism
Really makes you think.

>>56965137

Most major militaries (such as the US Military) use off the shelf encryption algorithms with key lengths that vary depending on the levels of protected data's clearance (Sensitive, Classified, Secret, Top Secret, etc.).

It's important that these algorithms are off the shelf or are otherwise public. As per Kerckhoffs's principle, a secure cryptosystem can't rely on secrecy of the algorithm or process of encryption/decryption because a skilled attacker will shred through such obscurity and discover faults in your system.

This is one of the reasons why US DoD openly states the algorithms they use in public documents like the Common Criteria and the Rainbow Series - the primary reason being that it makes building compatible software for these systems a lot easier.

The algorithm chosen for encryption may vary depending on the medium and intention. For example, unstructured and structured digital data at rest may be encrypted with AES whereas data in flight may be encrypted with SKIPJACK. Most militaries require these algorithms to be vetted by their government's electronic intelligence or technology standards organization for security (e.g.: US DoD regulations look to NIST or NSA for their choice of algorithms).

As stated before, lengths for cleared data vary depending on governments' infrastructures and spend on infosec. But in US DoD it's usually pegged on minimum requirements: 128-bit+ symmetric for Secret, 256-bit+ for Top Secret, and a whole mess of other things for SCI. There's also length requirements on the hashing infrastructure for things like password data (SHA-256 and SHA-512 for sensitive information), and further implementation details on how you create and store keys to abide by Multilevel security.

>>56965355
That's what happens when society worships the military and regards everyone, even the plumbers, as National Heroes.

>>56965355
Most of the military grade is nothing but a buzz word, including the meme OP has been forcing for the last few weeks

>>56964623
The thing is, once you release a algorithm for perfect encryption, there is no going back. And if you don't develop it because it's illegal in your country, someone else in some other country might.

>>56965162
It is, anon. Moreover, all encryption available now was made by three letters agencies. So it's not far-fetched to assume that they also have the key to break into everything if they want.

>>56964979

No one's suggesting we ban anything, you fucking sophist shill. What we want is to provide law enforcement with backdoors for cases like these. You can still use encryption and you'll still have your privacy. Nothing will change for you unless you're a criminal and you give the police enough cause for a warrant. You can stop shilling for terrorists and child pornographers now.

>>56965162
Oh no. Retardation strikes again.

Spoiler: Silk Road was busted because of bad opsec, not because Tor is broken.

>>56965399
>implying the word "freedom" hasn't been used as a buzzword by encryptard shills
Redirect yourself to /dev/null.

>>56965511
http://dev.null.org/blog/
Confirmed for Macfag.

>>56965497
Tor actually was broken though. The feds seized Carnegie Melon research on a Tor exploit and hit them with a gag order to prevent them from saying anything about it. The exploit was patched not long after DPR was arrested.

>>56964623
So theoretically if they can really get through with forcing backdoors into every encryption, what exactly do they think would stop ISIS or whoever from creating their own cipher?
I mean they dont even fear throwing away their own lifes and they expect them to just give up because government forced backdoors into every official encryption.
Either NSA is full of naive teenage girls or their goal is a complete different one.

/g/ is full of degenerates who masturbate to little kids and keeps disturbing images of them

/g/ is also promoting encryption like no tomorrow

Coincidence? Really makes you think huh

>>56965497
Tor is beyond breaked faggot. Holes in browser, encryption, bad exit nodes from NSA/FBI... How faggots could believe that a project funded by the government could be "safe"?
There are many agents here to lie about all that.

File: lmao.jpg (27KB, 500x309px) Image search: [Google]

27KB, 500x309px

>>56965541

>I don't know what /dev/null is

Confirmed for wintoddler.

>>56965548
epic XDD

File: 1451920125712.jpg (9KB, 208x210px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 208x210px

>>56964677
>>56965073
>>56965166
>>56965193

military-grade encryption
Oh great, it's this guy again

>>56965548
illuminati confirmed holy shit

>>56965542
The only thing the Feds did against SR servers were probe the login page and use a leaky captcha to expose the server's IP. This was released during the court case against DPR.

>>56965556
Anon, you're on the right train of thought, but you have no idea what you're talking about. Sybil attacks and a shitty browser have nothing to do with the crypto itself.

But for the foreseeable future, until Quantum Computers are available, the crypto is safe.

>>56965556

You quickly realize how projects genuinely concerned with security like OpenBSD soon lose government funding (DARPA stopped funding OpenBSD after Theo spoke out against the gov't).

>>56965543
>or their goal is a complete different one.
Bingo. They probably want to make it illegal to use "military grade" encryption. That way they can just throw you in prison if you're using something that isn't kosher instead of going through with pesky investigations.

The same thing was done during prohibition. Gangsters frequently used sawn off shotguns. It was often difficult to convict gangsters because forensics of the time sucked, and they were pretty good at covering their tracks. The solution? Make it illegal to have a sawn off shotgun with a max sentence of 10 years in prison. Now it's very easy to throw gangsters in prison for 10 years even if you can't prove they did anything.

>>56965585
Learn a book.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/02/judge-confirms-what-many-suspected-feds-hired-cmu-to-break-tor/

"The revelation, which was first reported by Vice Motherboard, came out as part of the ongoing criminal case against Brian Farrell, allegedly one of Silk Road 2.0’s top administrators. CMU's research enabled investigators to find him. Farrell was arrested over a year ago in Washington state—his trial is scheduled for April 25, 2016, to be held in federal court in Seattle."

>>56965616

It is known that the NSA and other gov't agencies hoard vulnerabilities.

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/08/the_nsa_is_hoar.html

>>56965490
Backdoors never stay in the hands of law enforcement. I'm sure Apple and Google will have fun explaining how sensitive information on "secure" phones was ransacked with life changing consequences for the person who trusted compromised cryptography.

If you do not understand the importance of secure cryptography in day to day life of the average person in respect to financial, health, and personal privacy, you can quit posting on /g/.

Terrorists will build a ground-up hardware and software ecosystem engineered for levels of security way beyond this if you compromise their current options. The literature is out there. The talent is out there. Stop encouraging these fuckers to develop hyper-secure communications.

I'm with UNATCO, start talking.

>>56965616
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-security-advisory-relay-early-traffic-confirmation-attack

This is just a really elaborate Sybil attack, which everyone already knows is a problem with Tor. I even mentioned it in the above post.

>>56965214
You're assuming that software always works as intended with no side effects or unintended behavior.

You know what they say about assumptions...

>>56965704
>I can't write software properly
>Therefore nobody can write software properly
Good one, idiot.

>>56964677

>Military grade

Has no idea what ppk/firefly nor how they work on a device such as the KG-175D

t. Marine

Help! I cant do police work from behind my laptop at home!

>>56965711
>"Somebody" is infallible and everybody who accepts that mistakes are possible are idiots

Of course this fucking dolt doesn't see the use in cryptography. He can't even see the use in considering what might happen if something goes wrong.

If your attitude toward software development is "I don't make mistakes", quit posting on /g/. 40 years of dealing with retards like you is the root of most annoyances in modern software/hardware design.

BAN MILITARY GRADE ASSAULT ENCRYPTION!

>>56964663
>giving up on your rights because of muh terrorists

Some of us still have some self respect

>>56965768
But I like my military grade mousepad, I just ordered it yesterday ;_;

>>56965768
We can't allow these 256 bit cop killer encryption to fall into the hands of criminals. Nobody NEEDS that kind of obfuscating power.

>ITT
OP getting continuously rekt and BTFO

It's painful to see and not even funny anymore. Poor OP

>>56965768
>HEAT warhead
>AHEAD encryption

Coincidence, I think not?
#cleartextLivesMatter

File: 1470930284936.jpg (447KB, 800x800px) Image search: [Google]

447KB, 800x800px

>>56965794
>cop killer encryption

File: OP.jpg (5KB, 229x220px) Image search: [Google]

5KB, 229x220px

>>56965794
>cop killer encryption
>encryption that kills cops

>>56965794
I heard some people are walking around with triple cascaded encryption in their pocket these days. Which is like taking a rocket launcher to a kindergarten and pretending nothing is going on. These are the same people who could be standing RIGHT NEXT TO YOU at a bus stop or in a super market and you wouldn't even realize it. It's that dangerous.

Defeating encryption is useless in the face of poor detective work. If you can't do the footwork to find and identify suspects in the first place, you shouldn't spend so much energy on worrying about encryption. How many suspects who went on to commit violent acts were identified using Facebook and Twitter? These people were openly advertising their motives and they were not stopped. Now let's say a backdoor was created in encryption and the NSA or who ever, is there hoovering up all the data as usual. How in the fuck are they going to gain anything of use here, without decrypting everything? You can't. The threats need to be identified beforehand, this is where the system fails.It's useless for finding new suspects and the bureaucracy involved to actually monitor found suspects, leaves the suspects with too much time to commit crimes. This is why terrorism and guerilla warfare work.Nobody can be everywhere at once to stop them.

>>56965795
Are we reading the same thread? Because in the thread I'm looking at encryptards keep leaving lose ends. I can point to a million posts left unanswered because they have no retort to them like >>56964862 >>56965226 >>56965234 und so weiter...

>>56965849
Anon, what makes an encryption "military grade?" hehehee

>>56965849
Believe it or not people won't just keep replying to every garbage post you type up just because you posted it. Now that you've had this thread a few times and got your kicks, please shut up and quit shitposting.

>>56965865
>"if I ignore all arguments and just keep repeating the same fallacy, people will fall for it"
You're not convincing anyone, shill.

>>56965876
>"i-it's not that we don't have retorts, we-we just don't... uh... it's garbage lmao rekt"
>imply again all encryption threads are made by the same person
Wow, you sure sound increasingly nervous.

itt: a bunch of encryption enablers

>>56965903
>Calls other shills
>muh fellacy XDD

Let's try this again, shall we?

What makes an encryption "military grade?"

>>56965865
Pretty much anything which the NIST defines. Apparently OP doesn't know what the NIST is though?

You could also argue about export grade crypto, but that was defeated by simply developing it outside the US

Not that anybody trusts NIST crypto these days. There's a reason open source devs developed Curve25519 & Salsa20; After the NSA spying it's clear the US gov is oppressive.

>>56965911
and an idiot (You).

>>56965903
>imply again all encryption threads are made by the same person
He may be implying but I am certain you are just one person

>>56965915
Heatsinks shaped like ammo cartridges?

File: bait.gif (208KB, 323x221px) Image search: [Google]

208KB, 323x221px

>>56965903
How can I sound increasingly nervous if that was my first time replying to you itt? Christ are you ever a shitty troll.

Report and hide, everyone. He'll stop eventually if you stop taking the bait.

>>56965844
when the SJWs invite the muslins to live near you, you will regret not having a rocket launcher

>>56965919
>Salsa20
Is this still being used though.

And yeah, I know OP doesn't quite know what he's talking about. What amazes me is that we share this board with some one like him who uses the term "cop killer encryption"

Any good tech boards you suggest?

File: 1475437311522.png (322KB, 546x700px) Image search: [Google]

322KB, 546x700px

>>56965903
Is this what /pol/ has been reduced to these days?

>>>/pol/

>>56965915
It's military grade if it can be used to hurt children.
Fully automatic military grade assault encryption is a danger to society, and should be regulated heavily. We cannot allow people who have ill intentions towards our children to have access to such aggressively dangerous technology.

>>56965957
>le brown-skinned refugees are terrorists meem XDDDD
Your racism is showing, it's time to stop posting.

>>56965965
Chacha20 is the standard, at least within OpenBSD/Google circles. It's based off Salsa.

>>56965969
>It's military grade if it can be used to hurt children
TIME TO BAN MILITARY GRADE ROCKS

>>56965965
I didn't see your last question, but honestly Reddit's boards are pretty good. e.g. netsec

>>56965969
Oh fuck.

Hey my wifi is encrypted with TKIP/AES hybrid encryption. Will it hurt children?

>>56965968

/pol/ has never been the same after the cuckening. It's gotten riddled with neocons and there's no red-pill threads anymore. If you want some red-pill, head to full-chan's /pol/.

>>56965794
So what's the blast radius of SHA256? How many cops will it kill?

>>56965973
Right, everyone knows the only terrorists are CIS white males. Melanin enriched people never do anything bad.

>encryption is banned (a terrible idea BTW
>dunevo is screwed over
>piracy resurfaces worse than ever before
>large medioa companies quickly go out of buisness
>art and creativity is banned and feared
>chaos ensues

do not ban encryption

>>56965981
Well, regular exposure to encrypted WiFi can cause skin deseases to children. NOT recommended

>>56966007
Of course the media companies will be exceptions, it's only individuals who'll be banned from using encryption

>>56965999
About 5 nigga miles. Careful cuz it has even further radiation area

>>56964677
>military grade
>AES-128, 192, and 256 are distinguished by secret length, of 16, 24, and 32 bytes.
>one of these is civilian grade
>the others are banned from export

did if=/dev/random bs=32 count=1 | base64

That's how you make an AES-256 key, faggot. There's no goddam excuse for this being restricted

>>56965979
They're next on the list. Imposing wooden assault weapons are next (sticks).

>>56965981
TKIP stands for Ten Kids In Pain, and AES stands for All Elementary Schoolers.

It's not hard to figure out.

>>56965999

SHA256 is nuclear-grade encryption because it's irreversible, you can never obtain the plaintext back.

>>56965903
>sound
On a textual forum?

>>56966041
autism

File: 1458382562740.jpg (78KB, 340x314px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 340x314px

>>56966027
>>56966030
My sides, I can't .. ..

>nuclear-grade encryption
>not using subatomic level encryption
kek git gud pleb

File: 0512e2a9700cf61fc0d297619febe225.jpg (87KB, 692x519px) Image search: [Google]

87KB, 692x519px

>>56964677

>military grade encryption

High capacity magazines.

>>56964623

"Military Grade" Literally means the least expensive thing that meets an minimum requirements.

>>56966219
>Military
>Largely spics and niggers
>Least expensive
>minimum requirements
Truth.

>>56964962
If it's secure end to end encryption it's probably some kind of combination of AES 256 with RSA.

Similar to the way secure VPNs identify, authenticate, and encrypt.

Is there any legitimate argument for the encryptard side besides "B-BUT MUH FREEDUMBS"?

>>56967458
Security, you retard.

File: Liberty-security-ben-franklin-105914099537.jpg (24KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 400x400px

>>56967483

So you're giving up your freedom from terrorism for a little bit of security?

>>56967458
How about some basic security, dipshit?

File: 1373819556814.jpg (56KB, 264x292px) Image search: [Google]

56KB, 264x292px

If pedophiles and terrorists are the only people who have need for military grade encryption like AES, does that mean anyone who uses facebook and google with https is a terrorist and a pedophile?

>>56964623
>lost terrorists
what terrorists have they even found in the first place???

>>56967503
The two go hand in hand.You're the one who wants less of one of them. So, right back at 'ya , son.

>>56965919
>What amazes me is that we share this board with some one like him who uses the term "cop killer encryption"
These threads are seriously starting to seem like organized shilling. We've been having this exact same thread for several weeks now, with the same news collage pics (the one in the OP) and the exact same "military grade encryption" and "assymmetrical back door" arguments.

>>56967735
It's just one lifeless dedicated shit poster though.

What a sad kid

>>56967735
Because it's the same guy posting the same /pol/ bullshit with the same amount of ignorance he's displayed for the past 3 weeks

Surprised he's not banned yet desu

>>56967683
They find plenty of terrorists posting selfies on Facebook and Twitter. They have to let them kill people first, before they act upon their "intelligence" gathering. It makes it easier to justify the senseless money given to them and works to encourage the innocent to hand over their rights in exchange for an inept governmental babysitter.

I hope encryption undermines the integrity of the top pigs further . Get fucked , lol

They could just ask the government to stop supplying ISIS.

>>56967824
And miss out on the cheap oil? Nah, no way!

>>56964677
>military-grade encryption
nice

>>56967824
>B-but...it's not us! It's Assad and Russia!

>>56964623
>>56964677
meanwhile, in real life, in freedom burgerland:
http://www.gazettenet.com/MarijuanaRaid-HG-100116-5074664

>>56967656

Not if you use RC4.

>>56964877
4chan is filled with dumb kids and sad people like you and me

>>56964918
state terrorism is an actual threat, but of course govts don't even mention it

>>56964623
Terrorists like the Tsarnaevs, Nadal Hassan, Omar Mateen, Ahmad Khan Rahami, and Dahir Adan.

No wonder they were able to attack.

>>56965062
inconti nancy

>>56965216
Actually, /pol/ is very pro encryption because the jews want to make it so the ebil anti-semites can no longer deny the 60 trillion deaths through encryption. This is yet another attempt by the NSA to shift board opinion.

File: IMG_0524.jpg (46KB, 539x517px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 539x517px

>>56965175
>being this fucking retarded
No I agree with anon,

Please drink bleach at the bus stop
And then get shanked and raped by a nigger on the way home, before the bleach kills you.

File: angry-anime-black-and-white-cute-Favim.com-1192151.jpg (44KB, 500x301px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 500x301px

>>56964623
>he's going to continue to post this everyday

>No, instead of putting boots on the ground, let's fucking ban numbers
Logic.

As you can see, encriptioan is the source of terrorism. GnuPG is the problem of everything!

File: Encryption causes Terrorism.png (6KB, 640x400px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 640x400px

>>56971668
As you can see, encriptioan is the source of terrorism. GnuPG is the problem of everything!

>>56964890
You'd think that, no? I went from one Guitar Center to another because the first didn't have the piano I wanted and so I had to go to a nicer area. I walked in, asked around, they didn't have it again but they didn't mention having the old version that wasn't stocked by that company anymore. They had all upgraded. Basically, it felt like I was being stalked. I'd walk by and the employee would say something on the phone like, "he's just looking for a piano" at every store I went to. I actually went into Sam Ash too and this weird looking black dude was in there hanging out like he was there to get in my way. Very strange people. Like I probably shouldn't even be saying this here because who the fuck knows what I may have done or smelled like to make them want to follow me if indeed that was what happened.

On the way back, and far away from the city where the first guitar center is, I saw a cop car from that first city.

And we're not in a coup?

To make matters worse, I was in there looking at the MIDI keyboards and one of the guys that worked there started to talk down to me like I'd never used a keyboard before. That I wouldn't know the difference. I mentioned to the guy that I know how to program and so this stuff isn't entirely new but that I needed the 61 keys and not the sound synthesis card.

>>56965184
Doesn't that relate to tension capacitance? I don't really know but it always seems those fans have tighter bolts and such.

>>56971929

you have paranoid schizophrenia.

File: Tacticool.jpg (22KB, 620x400px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 620x400px

>>56964677
>Military grade

File: Doubt.png (85KB, 492x280px) Image search: [Google]

85KB, 492x280px

>>56971228
>very pro-encryption
>supports Trump

>>56972160
At least trump wants to protect america

File: johnny.png (39KB, 798x597px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 798x597px

>>56964677
>military grade encryption
professional tier bait

>>56967458
>trivializing freedom

Hang yourself.

>>56972117
I didn't say I was being followed or that they were against me, nor am I unable to maintain control of my faculties. What I'm saying is that if a guy can't find a freaking piano because of some assumed association, I was wearing a hoodie and mentioned that I program, why would anyone need to know that I'm asking for a piano? It happened at both places. Maybe they were helping me and they weren't supposed to like in the movies but really this isn't the first time that city has pretty much proven to be a proxy to the chinese municipality.

>>56972117
Anyway, get the fuck out of here you stupid guitar center/sam ash shill. A few of the guys in there did seem to be warning me about my candor. That I shouldn't be talking like the merchandise could be possibly be incompatible with a person's personality. I told him I wanted a keyboard that didn't look like it need fiddling.

>>56967683
>>56967814
Hasn't been updates in more than a year, but there have been a few dozen since.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsuccessful_terrorist_plots_in_the_United_States_post-9/11

>>56965137
>secure backdoors
>secure insecurities

>>56967843
Anti-oil and global warming conscious Obama has actually led oil production in the US to record levels.

>>56972278
This really makes me question the legitimacy of global warming.

>>56964677
Kek. Encryption of mass destruction, when?

>>56964623
>NSA has lost some terrorists because they can multiply
so now they're literally trying to ban multiplication

>>56972420

Yes, keep being that simplistic, you're persuading a lot of people.

>attacker stabs person
>ban surgery!
This is how you sound!

>>56964623

>guys, remember when we told you you had to give up a tiny bit of privacy to be safe?
>remember when we promised you there was no slippery slope?
>remember when we mocked people who said we were spying on everyone?
>btw, no more encryption for civilians in the future, cuz terrorists XD lol
>trust us, we only go after those evil terrorists...like christians, constitutionalists, veterans, the elderly

How many muslims need to attack us before people wake up? Because of the Obama administration's CVE (Counter Violent Extremism) program, we're neutered against the war on terror. CVE forbids law enforcement and intelligence services from monitoring suspected hives of terrorism without first being contacted by designated members of those communities i.e. if the FBI knows a mosque is calling for attacks on Americans, the FBI can not monitor that mosque without being contacted by a pre-designated figure of that muslim community.

This is why the San Bernadino couple did what they did. This is why that nutjob in Miami did what he did. Our government is not interested in fighting terrorism because they need it to justify more control, more monitoring, more taxes.

>>56972536
>How many muslims need to attack us before ban encryption
Over 9000.

fuck off CIA nigger you've made this thread already

File: 1475671414484.png (579KB, 725x857px) Image search: [Google]

579KB, 725x857px

>>56972608
khahaha, lol XDD

>>56972536
This

>>56972661
When /k/ give up of their guns, we will give up of our encryption .

>>56972687
But /k/ won't give up their guns.

>>56972661
Is that protest about anal?

>>56972844
So we never give up of our encryption.

>>56965775
>>56965238
>>56965238
>>56965355
maybe its a mousepad that is less prone to dry rotting, water replent, and doesnt hold onto debris like sand and dirt, maybe it maintains a suitible environment to use a mouse in?
I doubt THAT mouse pad does that, but maybe there actually is a military requirement for mousepads?

>>56972661
this was shopped right?

>>56965490
>we
confirmed for nsafag

File: snapshot_21.11_[2016.07.28_03.59.09].png (3MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1920x1080px

>>56972661

>>56964623
t. CIA

>>56973670
He is a big guy?

Going to paste this in from last thread, because you still haven't beat my argument, terrortard
Just don't let then in in the first place, if we can encryption, do you really think they're going to abide by those rules? They send each other plans over the internet yu kno? We just won't be able to see them. I'm just not seeing how a ban on encryption would be effective. Nice try terrortard. You just want to leave us civilians unsecured.

Kek

But they're not going to fucking obey that, what makes you think they're going to follow the rules, the only thing you'll be doing is making the civilians unsecured, while the enemy still has encryption and the civilians will be at their mercy once the key is leaked. Nice try terrortard, I know you just want to steal my money.

>>56791416
Do you not understand my argument? The internet exusts, you can't stip them from using a p2p network or a wan to share encrypted plans which we can't see, they can smuggle encrypted flash drives which contain plans. They can try again and again until they successfully smuggle it, and well be helpless to do anything against said planned terror attack because guess what, they encrypted it. And meanwhile us law abiding citizens will suffer because if the key gets leaked, were assfucktd.
>>56791448 (You)
Also, if encryption is banned, how will we penalize them? We don't even know what they're smuggling, are we just going to give them the death penalty for encryption? Terror and child pornography charges vary. Im not seeing how a ban on non backdoored encryption will be effective, firstly. Your objective, to "stop terror" wouldn't be achieved, or anything even close.
>>56791467
What about tor+vpn?
>>56791478
How does it work? Also
NOT
AN
ARGUMENT.
It's not about quitting, but by making the entire civilian populace suffer, you're giving the terrorists what they want, a ban on encryption, is simply put, innefective at best, and at worst, detrimental. Also, have you Ever heard of a SYSTEM attack?

>>56964714
NOT AN ARGUMENT

File: notto disu shitto agen.jpg (58KB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 640x360px

>>56964677
>>56965166
>>56965073
>>56965137
>>56965193
>military-grade encryption
>secure backdoors

Every god damn thread with this shit.

You know Hitler liked sugar. Better ban all sugars.

>>56977260
Great job bumping a garbage thread newfag

>>56977272
Thanks.

>>56965073
Where did fucking MILITARY come from you stupid fuck?