Should Google, Apple, Microsoft et. al. be split up because

No. Taxation is theft and your subjective opinion about the quality of products is meaningless.

>>56957012
1- yes
2- it won't, because they'll keep colluding as before, just with more people involved
3- pretty sure alphabet is google's attempt at circumventing the looming threat of breakup.

>>56957066
>taxation is theft

So how is a government suppsoed to have money to operate other than taxation?

>>56957145
desu taxes should apply to entities that are not individuals, only.

>>56957156
So yo think you should be able to live in your country for free?

>>56957156
In the US, that'd be a paradox.
Corporations attained human rights at some point during the 00s, and are at the same time, companies subject to the laws that apply to them.

>>56957012
If they don't pay anything in taxes they are being smart.

The IRS states that you are entitled to any tax write off that is applicable to your situation. If you choose not to write it off, that is at your own neglect.

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>>56957177
<-- this

>>56957012

Yes but it'll never happen because these are the civilian branches of the NSA bulk data collection program. These companies are also steadily at work on social engineering on behalf of the US government, their endless carbon credits, tax subsidies, and tax write offs are payment. Just look at Google, they've been caught several times censoring news that is harmful to the Obama administration and Hillary campaign.

>>56957177
Of course.
Want to live an average life? Go ahead, no taxes.
Want to be a billionaire? Better pay up your dues.
Something like that, but without going full nazi about the existence of money to start with.

>>56957145
By providing and charging for utilities.

>>56957211
You have to pay the governemtn to live here because if you didnt the government would disolve and we would be back to packs of bandits roaming around wrecking everything

>>56957012
>Should Google, Apple, Microsoft et. al. be split up because they are too large and have too much power?
Yes, but they won't.

>>56957145
why have government at all?

>>56957145
See
>>56957235

>>56957211

>Who did the government buy the earth from
>Then why do we pay the government to live there

You pay for their protection, organization, standards, and more.
You pay to live in their domain. If you don't like it, go to another domain. If you can't find a domain you like, setup your own.

Also, by your same logic, everything should be free.

>>56957012

#1) Google and Microsoft are already split up on a business level. Google as you refer to them is now Alphabet. All independent organizations under 1 umbrella. Microsoft has Microsoft Retail, Microsoft Mobile, Microsoft Software, Etc.
#2) They do pay Tax, and quality is subjective.
#3) Bell Labs was broken up as they accomplished monopolies in markets both domestic and international

>>56957273
There isn't even a square inch not claimed by someone on this Earth, mong.

>be split up because they are too large and have too much power? Also they pay no tax and produce shyte products.

What power? They sell products. Your fault if you become dependent on them. The government, even if they could define what a 'shyte' product is, that's not a reason to fucking shut them down, are you underage or something?

>>56957303
Did you know that you have to be 18 or older to browse this site? It's true! Discontinue browsing immediately, perhaps you can come back in 10 years when you're old enough for this site!

>>56957273
But what if the domain you want to go to doesn't want your Muslim ass?

>>56957300
>what are international waters
>what is antarctica
Dunce.

>>56957300
go live in space then.

>>56957352
stop shoving religion in their face and they wont even know you're muslim.

>>56957303
if you use your phone while on the toilet they know when your taking a shit... thats power

>>56957300

Oh, so you're admitting that they have claims on the land that you're disputing their ownership of?
So...which is it? Do they own the land? Or not?

>>56957352
Subjugate, re-educate, or make your own.
It's not difficult stuff.

>>56957012
yes, but they won't because they control the government

>>56957235
joke's on you, that sounds pretty cool and i think i'd do pretty well in a mad-max style environment. genetically at least

Microsoft does need to be broken up, they do nothing but force shit no one wants and are dragging down the entire IT industry because of it. They do not have to technically be divided into smaller companies but they do have to release a binary standard that other companies can port to.

Apple does not have a monopoly, they are simply failing because they have a clueless assfuck as a CEO who has only been trained in assembly line optimization.

Google sort of deserves their dominance of the search engine market. At some point they are going to have to open up their advertising more, Im not going to explain exactly what that means because I dont hand out ideas for free.

>>56957528
you wouldnt last too see the mad max style world your 400 pounds of lard would die to martial law during the collapse of the government

>>56957563
>>they do nothing but force
Right, buy Windows or else...

Apple is all you see in California. Business, people, everyone is using them. They must've done something right.

>>I don't hand out ideas for free
Makes you no better than those "big evil business"

Fuck off

>>56957400
You can't own shit in there retard, it's effectively "owned by everyone else but you", no matter who you are.

>>56957508
>Oh, so you're admitting that they have claims on the land that you're disputing their ownership of?
>So...which is it? Do they own the land? Or not

You can claim something you don't own.
I claim to have a twelve inch penis, anon.

>>56957246

We dont all want to live like we're in a mad max movie.

>>56957803
>no matter who you are.
And that's where you're wrong. You'd have to go through the same channels every government did to get its own spot on the map. i.e by having power, influence, a relevance in the world economy, a population/culture of its own, a military, you get the idea. It really is as simple as making a claim but the means to do so are not available to an individual for obvious reasons.

>>56957937
Not sure if retarded or just pretending.jpg

>>56957940
Not an argument.

>>56957012
That would be terrible for the investors of these companies. However the laws should be changed to not allow vertical integration in software. At this point the argument FSF gives is pretty valid, you should be able to check what is running on your computer. If somehow portability between services these companies provide is achieved then they will actually compete.

Current situation in my opinion is barely legal, but somehow big companies are considered "good".

>>56957012
The breaking up of Bell was a tragic mistake. They invented everything. We need more Bell Labs, not fewer.

>>56957882

Then if you state their claim means nothing as you don't recognize their ownership of it, why are we having this conversation in the first place if claims don't matter?

>>56957959
Not an argument

>>56958101
>They invented everything.
More like, they undermined everything. They plunged the entire world into darkness for over 40 years, and the world is only now starting to recover. Bell shouldn't have been broken up, it should have been obliterated.

>>56958314
>starting to recover
You wish...

>>56957156
no they shouldn't, there should be no corporate tax at all and a higher personal rate for high earners. When you have a high corporate tax companies sell their IPs to other foreign subsidiaries and license it back to themselves at a rate that effectively covers all of their profits earned domestically. They can then write off all fo that "license fee" as an expense and declare the profit in Ireland or another country where they've negotiated a <5% corporate tax rate in return for a few thousand jobs.

American millionaires and billionaires aren't going to suddenly flee to China, Indonesia, or Ireland if they have to pay a higher personal rate. They're much more captive than a multinational corporation.

>>56957012
no, the point of breaking up companies is stop them from having a monopoly over an industry and those all have plenty of competitions with each other and smaller tech companies

They should be made to pay taxes though

>>56957012
if nothing else, Microsoft definitely needs to be busted. Apple is practically a niche commodity and not an actual competitor.