>i don't use an anti-virus i use common sense 2016 :^)

you are incorrect about that

that line of thinking only makes sense on *nix or bsd, there's way too many exploits and attack vectors on win platforms to rely on "muh common sense"

>>56916197
Because I care about security.
Antiviruses are "botnet".

>>56916197
There's no reason to use an antivirus unless you're one of the few people still using windows in 2016

>>56916341
>>56916373
t. rootkit devs

>>56916197
It encourages you to offload common sense to a program which is bad (I know what I mean fuck you Im drink)

>>56916197

Because I understand the fact that I, as a human can make mistakes and I would rather have a limited safety net than no safety net.

If you believe you cannot make mistakes like other people, because ur leet, you are delusional.

>>56916197
>there's no downside to using one.
Every single one interferes with your system's activities.

One example, nod32 wouldn't allow me to install the correct driver for my Sound Blaster (only the Microsoft one) even while I had it "disabled" (I had to uninstall nod32 to install the driver).

Every single antivirus is fucking around with your system's operation in similar ways. Every single one is digging around in the background in everything that is going on. Many of them will hijack your Internet traffic, MITMing your "secure" connections, by default.

Most antivirus programs are a single step away from malware at this point.

Anti-virus is a meme, anti-malware is all you need because of this
>>56916430

>>56916524
anti-virus = anti-malware

>>56916197
Which antivirus gives no performance hit? I'm genuinely curious. Had Norton on my machine and it would never stop running background tasks. Kept my disk usage way high.

Because I use Qubes and routinely delete and create VMs from the templates.

>>56916547
http://chart.av-comparatives.org/chart1.php?chart=chart4&year=2016&month=4&sort=0

>>56916546
go away McAfee

>>56916197
If your using windows 10, microsoft security essentials is built in anyway. If you were smart enough to stick with windows 7, MSE + malwarebytes are both free and provide the best protection on the market. Why someone would pick to be careful instead of using free programs to enable them to not give a fuck is beyond me.

>>56916547
As i said in my previous post. Microsoft security essentials (built into windows 10) and malwarebytes. Both free, both low system impact, both together protect you better than any paid antivirus in existence.

>>56916197
>Norton has deposited $0.10c into your account.

>>56916586
holy shit Kaspersky blown the fuck out

>>56916197
>with no performance hit
thats not true. last time i used an antivirus program it made the computer unusable if any automatic scan is enabled.

>> there's no downside to using one
>everything takes twice as long, computer stutters continuously

Nice try, AVkike-sama. Removing MSE and MRT is the first thing one has to do to make windows at least vaguely useable.

>>56916621
MSE has literally some of the worst detection rates of any anti-virus software, friend

>>56916681
lower means better, breh

>>56916713
that's true

mse only prevents about 96% of malware infections in real world tests which makes it one of the lowest performing anti-virus products you can get

but, stop and think about this....

>0
>96

>>56916713
Thats why you supplement MSE with malware bytes friendo.

Malwarebytes
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>>56916730
Every time MSE deleted something without asking me first it was clean.

You probably mean 96% false reporting rate.

>>56916766
no it actually has one of the lowest false-positive rates

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>>56916773
>trusting bogus internet claims instead of first hand experience

Whatever, JIDF.

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I don't need to use antivirus, sorry kid. Considering I know quite a lot about computers, I only use Arch linux and MacOS as my operating systems.
I've simply got no time for things like Windows.

>>56916802
>trusting anecdotal evidence over actual studies

https://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/avc_factsheet2016_08.pdf

>>56916373

>One of the few people still using Windows in 2016.

I regret to be the one that breaks you away from your Linux fever dream, but Windows is still the operating system used by the gigantic majority of PC users.

>>56916846
Not anecdotal, it simply happens with my pattern usage. Which is like most of /g, namely:

>not clicking obvious malware links
>pirating ton of shit

MSE cockblocks virtually all cracks and utilities which inject stuff. Even avast knows better than this.

>>56916197
>implying that any malware that is still operated by someone isn't FUD, and even if it isn't any malware that you should be concerned about won't deal with your AV pretty fucking fast

>>56916524
>Anti-virus is a meme, anti-malware is all you need because of this
>>>56916430

What's the difference for god's sake?

>>56916197
>literally why wouldn't you use an anti-virus?
because I'm not an incompetent fucking retard.

>there's no downside to using one
when AV programs aren't flagging legit programs and crunched/packed executables as Potentially Unwanted Programs, they also steal private information from your systems, because you sad retards think that some bloated and painfully slow AV software, usually written by dickheads that are after $, is going to SAVE YOUR ASS! quite the opposite.

how fucking stupid are you, op? out of 10? i would guess.. at least 9.9?

> be me
> 30 years of computing
> 4 non-destructive infections (3 on the ancient commodore amiga, 1 on 386-PC 25+ years ago.. before most of you sad fuckers were born)
> NO INFECTIONS SINCE THEN.

HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU IDIOTS GETTING INFECTED ALL THE TIME?!?!

you don't need AV, you need a shotgun blast to the face.

fucking lamers.

learn to computer, retards.

What is best antivirus for Windows 7?

>>56916904
>HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU IDIOTS GETTING INFECTED ALL THE TIME?!?!

Downloading backdoors and shiet and not knowing about virustotal is an art.

>>56916924
ph2, procmon, rohitab api monitor, spider sense tingles

>he still has networking enabled
lmao

>>56916924
Common Sense 2016 Oct. Revision

>>56916930
>not knowing about virustotal is an art.
depressing

>>56916904
calm down gramps, take your blood pressure pills

common sense 2017 was just released ;)

i'm still on Common Sense 2007
haven't found a reason to upgrade

>>56916871
>/g
get out

>>56916197
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>56916941
Hi Terry

>>56916940
>spider sense tingles
All my keks

>>56916197
>using windows

>>56916711
>Removing MSE and MRT is the first thing one has to do to make windows at least vaguely useable.
BS. MSE has no visible impact even on my old machine. So why the fuck would you "delete" it when you can just disable it if you don't want to use it so much?

>>56916197
i do run one but mainly rely on common sense professional 2016 and only alerts i have gotten from my antivirus are shitty false positives from few kms tools

this means antivirus is useless

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>>56917131
dis
plus a layer or two of tinfoil
don't run errythang as admin, always think b4 clickings of yes/ok/maybe
no no no no
why
>sex object

>>56916871

because packed and obfuscated executable files are 99% bad news. There is no sane reason for legitimate software to employ those kind of methods in a binary.

Linux for myself
Avira for people who want AV advice from me

>>56916197
t. windows user

>>56916197
i'm the virus

I just run a relatively secure browser with uBlock matrix and an ad blocker. No need to run active protection really so I don't *have* an antivirus so to speak of. I just do automated weekly scans when I'm not at my computer.

Also what point is there when so many viruses can be made FUD with 0% detection rates? If you're not stupid enough to get bloated up with spyware, you shouldn't need help from an AV.

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>>56916197
>there is no downside

>>56916197
>there's no downside to using one
Last time I was using nod32 it was messing with my emails and had 25% cpu usage at times

>>56916751
>malware bytes
that looks like bloat

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>>56916665
>$0.01c

>>56916940
>Rohitab api monitor

Blast from the past holy fuck

>>56916904
lol ur old

Just turned 19 some months ago. Have you achieved what you dreamed of when you were my age? Any tips?

>>56916197
>even the most poorfag computer on the market now can run anti-virus with no performance hit
?????

>>56916621
MSE used to be passable but it is shit since years now.

>>56916904
>HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU IDIOTS GETTING INFECTED ALL THE TIME?!?!
I don't understand this either. To get a virus you either need to click on ads, click on surveys, download stupid 5kb .exe files and execute them, install browser bars and shit that come bundled with software, download stupid torrents with thousands of seeds, search for direct downloads of games, movies and music, download 700mb movies (not you yify) - the list of stupid shit goes on.

>>56916857
If you have the common sense not to use Windows, you don't need an antivirus.

>>56916871
>/g
>>>/r/eddit

>>56919176
What's the most light weight and non-instrusive alternative for that? I'm tired of crap like nod32, kaspersky, avast, avg, etc

>>56918430
t. Neo/g/

>>56919387
A shotgun to your face.

>>56919474
That's just my first impression of it friend.

>>56919518
Becuase you're underage.

With KA shutting down I tried a few different sites and tried a malware bytes torrent with like 900 seeders and I thought it was safe. It installed like 10 programs and installed a fuck load of malware.

I decided to download malwarebytes from the official website and run the trial. It found like 800 files that were either malware or corrupt. And now it finds nothing.

When I use windows defender it keeps finding at least 3 things a day coming from /appdata/. And this only happens the next day so I feel like the malware installs its self every 24 hours. What should I do besides a system wipe?

>>56919841
Basically lurk moar or an hero.

>>56916197
>literally why wouldn't you use an anti-virus?

Linux

And antivirus software in itself is usually some freemium / malware shit. Any that aren't (maybe ESET) are paid only.

>there's no downside to using one

Yes, they're too bloated, even for modern systems. Some will eat up more RAM than your Web browser.

Also, the politics of false positives, some of which I strongly suspect were added at the request of the MPAA and other anti-piracy agencies.

stealing the thread
I got this virus by mail as a .wsf file ("Windows Script File"), any idea of what does it to? http://pastebin.com/M44GwUKU

Thankfully i'm equipped with the latest Common Sense Linux Distro, and I just opened this script as a text file with less.

Wait. So Norton isn't worth a goddamn?

>>56919841
>What should I do besides a system wipe?

Always be ready to wipe and reinstall. Always. It should be trivial.

Always have a spare hard disk for clean installs. You can pick your files out of the other drive using a live Linux.

Always use WSUS offline updater prior to installing Windows. You can run it on another PC.

If you are serious, you could use Deep Freeze and every reboot returns you to a clean installation. No more malware, no more problems.

I leave my Windows installs in VMs and can reboot to Snapshots at any time.

I don't surf the net on Windows. That's fucking stupid. I don't torrent on Windows. That's just as stupid. Only use Windows for applications that require it. Surf and torrent and shitpost using Linux.

>>56916586
How should I read this chart ? Does a high impact score mean a high or a low impact on system's performances ?
Who did this study anyway ?

>>56924742
Nothing is worth a goddamn. Stop wanting safe Windows. You can't have it unless you use Deep Freeze on a clean install.

>>56916562
How do you like Qubes? I love VMs but am babby so have only used Virtuabox.

>>56916857
>I regret to be the one that breaks you away from your Linux fever dream, but Windows is still the operating system used by the gigantic majority of PC users.

I contain Windows in VMs on Linux hosts. Much better that way. I stopped wanting Windows to be different than what it is, and switched to dealing with it using better tools.

>>56916197
>100% disk usage for 15 minutes after login
>its avira/avg/avast/bitdefender/whatever
>pc is not even a toaster, just no ssd.
>pc never gets viruses anyways, so its just wasted disk usage
Debian GNU/Linux with free software doesn't have this problem

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>using symantec
>build executable in visual studio
>cant seem to run it
>turns out symantec keeps thinking its a virus so it removes it to "quarantine" it
>no way of turning off this shit
>uninstalled

>>56916197
>there's no downside to using one
1. Time waste to install
2. Way to many false positives
3. Annoying popups
4. Botnet

You happy faggot?

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Do you know if Malwarebytes can run as a portable software, without installation?

>>56920247
Linux can get malware. Are Linux users turning into Apple fanboys?

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Because I use GNU/Linux.

>>56920247
>they're too bloated, even for modern systems. Some will eat up more RAM than your Web browser.
My AV takes 35Mo of RAM, 4 process combined.
That's 3 time less than a single youtube tab, and still smaller than a 4chan tab.

>>56925772
Why the fuck even have it installed in the first place famdingo

>>56916414
>dont open email attachments from unthrusted sources
>dont download porn, watch it online
>avoid unthrusted torrents
Used win7 for years without a anti-virus and never had any problem with anything.
Ive migrated to linux a few years ago and i dont even know what a virus is anymore.
Its not that hard.

>>56926100
>Linux can get malware. Are Linux users turning into Apple fanboys?
you can but unless you try really really hard you wont get any. Repositories and having signed distributions of (free) software makes hard to do something shady without somebody know along the line

>>56916197
>not just running a scan once a month instead of having dedicated protection

what are you autistic or something

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>The jews made anti-virus

Anti-virus lives dont matter

>>56916197
This is such utter bullshit. Try this: download say the VLC player ZIP file, then extract it, with and without AV. With Microsoft's MSE-or-whatever-its-called-nowadays, it takes more than literally double the time.

There are many other workloads where 2x+ slowdowns are typical with mechanical drives, and much more with SSDs.

You just don't notice because you're not looking or are running short things, but they are devastating. They turn what should be a 100ns syscall into a 10ms (with luck) process.

Also, they serve no real purpose. I've seen targeted attacks to small business by email (ransomware), literally no AV on virustotal detected them as virus, not even as suspicious/heuristic.

tl;dr: they provide no security, cost a lot of performance, cause tangential trouble. True snakeoil. Only useful to prevent retards for clicking on DOCUMENT.DOC.EXE on USB sticks.

The problem is there, but a shitty bruterforce pattern matching is not the solution. A security model which is not an embarrassing joke would be a good start, but good luck with that.

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>>56919179
>I don't understand this either. To get a virus you either need to click on ads, click on surveys, download stupid 5kb .exe files and execute them, install browser bars and shit that come bundled with software, download stupid torrents with thousands of seeds, search for direct downloads of games, movies and music, download 700mb movies (not you yify)
or just view this jpeg2000

>>56918181
Same here. Well said.

>>56916197
>there's no downside to using one.
anon this
anon that
yadda yadda
weekly scan
this file is not ok anon, what do you wnat to do with it(if it doesn't just delete it automatically, that is)
it's rather annoying

>>56927163
Damn you're fast! This vulnerability got announced just a few days ago: http://blog.talosintel.com/2016/09/vulnerability-spotlight-jpeg2000.html

Or were you talking about older jpg2000 vuln.?

>literally why wouldn't you use an anti-virus?
Virus scanners are pretty ineffective unless you like to download questionable executables a lot. It's probably not going to catch google chrome managing an arbitrary code execution bug, which infects your computer.
>there's no downside to using one.
Performance is degraded. Some of them also do dumb shit like tell me random safe executables are viruses or just cause everything to stop working. I couldn't use any programs within a day of installing ZoneAlarm.

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>>56917405
>There is no sane reason for legitimate software to employ those kind of methods in a binary.
do you even demoscene my friend?
or cheats? or cracks?
plenty of antiviruses will jump at a simple hello world

>>56916904
>how fucking stupid are you, op? out of 10?
perhaps windows 10/10

>>56927097
Silly winfag, just install linux.
Problem solved.

>>56920247
>Also, the politics of false positives, some of which I strongly suspect were added at the request of the MPAA and other anti-piracy agencies.
no, it's just hard to tell what an executable actually does. Consider all the different executable packers available, what do you expect antivirus software to do?

>>56922785
>javascript in emails
>someone thought this was a good idea
wew

>>56928889
Haha. Linux has no virus because it has no users.

The security model is as broken as it is on Windows: an all-or-nothing piece of shit where everything runs with enough permissions to hose all your user files, and any administrative task gets root access on top of that.

>>56926847
name software that does this without running int he background constantly

>>56928943
not Qubes

There's not even a serious downside to a virus in Windows though as long as you have two drives.
>get virus not fixable with anti-malware
>reinstall Windows
>reinstall programs off 2nd hard drive
It take like 20 minutes.

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The year is 2016.
Common sense has become so rare it has been declared a fucking superpower.
If you use Windows, you NEED antivirus and a firewall.
If you deny this, you lack the aforementioned superpower.

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>>56927163
That's not a jpeg2000 file.

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>>56916924
Gentoo.
It is free, easy to install, and once configured, you will never have to fear a Windows virus again.

http://wiki.installgentoo.com/

How do Antiviruses work, /g/?

>>56916924
avast

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lol you mad, llinuxfags?

>>56924855
>surf

>>56926254
>>dont download porn, watch it online
you can't watch 4K 60fps porn online

>>56929328
Mad that you installed malware masquerading as an antivirus?

>>56929082
lol We both did the same thing.

>>56919179
Nowadays it's even easier than that, all you have to do is buy a pre-built PC and it'll have a shitload of malware and vulnerabilities right out of the box.

>>56929271
They don't

>>56929408
Sure you can

>>56928943
Another deluded winfag who believes what's spoonfed to him by M$ propaganda.

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>>56928943
>linux runs on the majority of the world's servers, smartphones, and supercomputers
>"no one writes viruses for linux because it has no users"

>>56930036
where?

>>56916260
This.

>>56926847
>he doesn't scan every 5 minutes even on GNU/Linux
What are you a neurotypical or something?

>>56916197
I only installed an antivirus just so that MsMpEng.exe would stop kicking in at random times to thrash my disk and hog 90% CPU

>thanks windows 10

people who write malware have anti-virus installed.

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>>56916430
>Most antivirus programs are a single step away from malware at this point.
You just reminded me how Malwarebytes changed their UI and now it looks exactly fucking like one of those fake "Clean your PC" popups

>that "Scan Now" button that looks exactly like 99% of those fake "Download" buttons all over filesharing websites
What the fuck was they thinking?

>>56919474
>>56919612
He has a point though, see >>56932105

>>56932105
>those artifacts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGVzt3sSGJM

>>56932105
>Virus marketeers are good at tricking people into believing their program is friendly
>Just adopt their tactics on an actual friendly program so users love it

Is there a difference between Defender and MSE?

>>56932105
I guess this makes the interface easier to use for normies (which might as well be the reason for the appearance of the viruses and all too)

>>56916197
Because antiviruses are fucking snake-oils. I got a free internet security license for avast and it's so fucking bloated and treats me like a fucking idiot, the UI has been drastically changed to a very shitty one, lot of options are now missing. Anti-viruses protects you from running .exe files and malware sites. They are useless when you have Common Sense 2018 Beta.

>>56916904
/thread

>>56916924
F-Secure

I only use MSE with windows 10. Everything just works so why would i care

>>56916904

legit programs that have adverts (spotify),non-blockable adverts (youtube pre-roll), etc.

your "no infections" is bullshit and the only reason you think that is due to not having software to tell you otherwise.

>>56925967

Pretty sure they actually have a Live CD version.

>>56919387

NIS

>>56924742

norton is the best.

>>56932105
>>56932808

This is exactly it. I show my customers hit the big ass blue button and all your problems except for adobe reader will go away. after that update adobe reader.

>>56925772

>not knowing how to exclude a program/folder from AV

>>56925967

techbench

>>56916871
>Not anecdotal
>it simply happens with my pattern usage
I don't even know what to say to this.

but they do nothing

why install something if it does nothing, even if there's no performance hit? It's just a waste of a little bit of RAM and a little bit of time.

>>56916430
>nod 32

>>56928955
maleware bytes does it, installed it for my mom

>>56925817
Poor fag.
>using a free antivirus

>>56926254
don't install flash.

>>56933080
you really must be poor, wasting your money like that

>>56930284
>android has no virus or malware

>>56916197
because it kept interfering with my botnet development so i uninstalled it

>>56931458
yes. and proud.
fuck off autism weirdo.

I'm sure antivirus will be of much help when you plebs keep clicking "yes yes download yes please enter my orifices unidentified email attachment from an unknown sender"

>>56916586
So many AVs not listed.. why is this chart even being considered?

Just installing uBlock keeps you the fuck away from shady Download buttons and download pop-ups

>>56932090
Because you can't just disable Defender? You just made it worse, gj...

>>56933739
No, it turns back on by itself unless there's another antivirus installed. It's a "feature"

its the norton shills again

>>56927097
The problem with ransomware is that it has no real pattern. More often big heist viruses tend to be generated out of components rather than pre-written based on general expectations. These components are chosen based on intelligence gathering.

A virus has to work in a known virus alike way to be flagged and reported as a "potential malicious software". That is locally doing things on your computer which other viruses have done in the past - or having a similiar source code. Another way for this to happen is by spreading. If enough AV-softwares pick up and report the same suspicious file with no signatures, then it's likely a virus and will be put in queue for analysis and/or blacklisted.

Last method is the honeypots. A honeypot is just an average virtual computer which is suppose to attract viruses. It either does emulated tasks which attracts viruses or does nothing. And when viruses infect the honeypot it becomes automatically blacklisted. Why? Because it's not suppose to contain anything. So anything that has changed is work of the virus.

So you're NOT being jewed out of your shekels. You're paying for these automated services and the update packages which contain patterns. The fact that you can access open pattern banks and information on the internet and painstakingly remove viruses by yourself, doesn't implicate that the threat isn't there. There are old and new threats alike which generates internet background noise. And if your computer is somehow compatible with the noise then it's going to be infected at somepoint.

The fact that somebody's running a linux or mac or whatever doesn't make them impossible to penetrate. It simply requires a different set of actions which are usually available only to malicious governments with serious funding. That being said nobody's out of the woods.

>>56934224
Wow. A useful non-autistic full sperg-out post that has actual valur on /g/. Going to mark this day in my calender.

>>56933780
kek. This

There are no open source anti-virus with passive scan.

>>56916260
This tbqh

I would also recommend noscript as cross site scripting is becoming more and more common

I just use the free security scans that pop up on websites, they usually clean up my computer and make it 400% faster!

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>>56916197
Mah nigg-

>>56932105
>Older versions - Everything is free.
>Updated version - You need to buy premium to use that one thing that was free before.
Did they go full Capitalism on their own stuff or what? It gives off the vibe of one of those shady programs/softwares that you have to pay in order to use.
Happy that torrenting and cracks exists.

>>56932818
avast is shit
couldn't build anything that so much as opened a file in Visual Studio with it without getting a FP on the program I just wrote

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>Download exe
>No digital signature

>>56916924
Unsure if Avira is legit or not but it isn't like Avast's nagging shitfest with pop-ups.

>>56916197
>why wouldn't you use an anti-virus?
propietary

>there's no downside to using one
consumes system and network resources
most of them phone home
most of them interfere with operation
most of thme bloated

>>56916197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmALK-RsXJ8

>>56916904

People do who stupid deserve all the misery that is coming to them. People who know what they are doing don't wreck their computers with viruses and malware etc.

>>56943574
You can use clamav and clamwin.

My laptop is too shit to run antivirus rn.
2GB Ram and an old ass pentium processor. fml.

This is my first time using my brand new laptop. It is an Asus K501UX. What should I download to intelligently protect my computer, and uninstall to debloat it? I don't want to fall for the anti-virus meme.

Also I always used adblock in the past, figuring it would help guard against sketchy clicks, but I've heard there are better alternatives now.

I appreciate any help.

>>56945700
It will be bundled with crapware by default. You can remove it if you like if you have Win10 by going to 'refresh my PC' or something in settings (I've never actually done it so google to make sure I'm not making it up).

Win10 has anti-virus installed by default and permanently enabled.

/g/ uses uBlock Origin for ad blocking.

>>56916197
There will be no help when someone will use your PC or just bring deeply infected pendrive...

I'm using Linux. Do I need an antivirus?

t. serious question asker

>>56947993
If you don't run unknown scripts on your computer like a retard then no. Same with Windows and exe files.

>>56916430
>nod32
Is that 2003

>>56940973
>downloading anti-malware software from anywhere but the official source
why even bother

>>56916586
>kaspersky
>this low
what

One time I was drunk and tired and downloaded an exe instead of avi and clicked before fully reading the big red warning. Two seconds later I hit the power button. Upon inspection I found a broken trojan.

That was the one time in 20 years an antivirus might have been a little useful.

>>56948226
Low = good, if that's what you mean.

>>56932105
As soon a MWB changed the UI I uninstalled as it was blocking game firewalls, I spent 2 hours trying to get BF4 to launch one morning and nothing would happen, I sat and thought about it and realised it was after this update.

And then i redownloaded it once for a friend who thought his pc might be infected, ran the test, and afterwords he could not use his chrome, every search took 1 minute to load, only Facebook worked, youtube loaded a black screen. Malwarebytes is now malware.

>>56932999
Yeah until it disables wireless on laptops intermittently after the trial/subscription runs out, making gullible OAPs renew thinking the facebook laptop has been infected.

>>56916197
>There is no downside
It always catches like half of my developed programs, especially my dll injector, and low level C programs. Also slows stuff down. Virustotal and Sandboxie is pretty much all you need. If i'm really in doubt i can throw the program at IDA and check if its suspicious

MSE/Windows Defender with Common Sense Antivirus premium 2016 are all that you need to have.

Back when anti-virus software would bog down your computer (circa 2005ish) I would agree to just use common sense.

But now computers are so fucking powerful you can run 10 programs at once and play a game on ultra at 144hz 144 fps.

So why not just get one?