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/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>Headphone purchase advice
http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

>Last thread
>>56752159
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>>56766643
Don't be a faggot and wait for bump limit before making a new thread.
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>>56766643
christ youre early
302 posts
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>>56766668
>off by 2

JUST

let's see who got it the quints

>>56766666
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>>56766668
It's always so he can remove:

>Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
>Wireless is frowned upon.
>Headset requests are frowned upon.
>Noise isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
>If you dislike a suggestion, try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked instead of going "hurr, x sucks"

Pretty desperate really.
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>>56766692
Off by nine. Are yo retarded and cannot count to ten?
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>>56766718
r u retarded
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>>56766747
Quit shitposting.
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>>56766590
im not a youtuber, streamer or anything that needs an excellent mic. They also arent as mobile as a headset. I can take my laptop to a starbucks or something like that and have it do the same thing as at home

Why Core? Ive heard that 7.1 is a gimmick, but its got to be worth something right?

>>56766609
>not using PTT
>not adjusting sensitivity
>mechanical keyboard
you are horrible and lazy person
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>>56766767
>so new he doesn't even know what Gets are

heIlo reddit
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dt770 80 or 250?
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>>56766807
You didn't post a new thread several threads early, like the last handful of /hpg/ threads to force your half-OP. No. It was for trying for the get which no one cares about since this isn't /b/. Also, no one is going to believe you when you try for a get that didn't occur for two minutes.

>gb2/b/
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>>56766824
I like my 250 ohm dt 770s, but I have not tried any of the other models. My galaxy s5 powers them just fine though.
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>>56766824
80 ohm limited edition

now go away
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>>56766705
But removing it has been a plus to the thread.
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>>56766775
>not using PTT

>playing OW
>be healslut
>talking to team
>what's that anon? your keyboard is too loud

I use PTT but I'm always pressing keys on my keyboard.
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>>56766905
>source: my ass
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>>56766845
im not OP, dumb fuck.

>>56766718
your stupid ass can't read or count since your fresh off the boat from reddit
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>>56766775
The fuck do you need a headset at starbucks for? Don't see why you'd need portability for a microphone at all.
You could just get a desktop mic for normal use, and then just get the 16 dollar clip on sony for when you need portability for god knows what reason. Lans or something?
Subjecting people do headset mics is pretty rood.

The core because it is the cheapest. Not sure if the 2 is the same driver or anything, I can't imagine them releasing a second model for no reason. I personally haven't used them, but from what I've heard, theyre no better other than having replacement velour pads as an option, and different colours.

7.1 absolutely is a gimmick though. You will never have 7 speakers and a sub in your headphones. Its just a shitty marketing name for virtual surround sound, which you can buy USB adapters which accomplish the exact same thing. [or just straight drivers]
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>>56766845
You mean the correct unbiased OP format that we've had for years? He might be a faggot for starting it early but at least he isn't a shitposter like you that aims to derail the thread with his 'rules' in the OP.
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>>56766905
Then you don't need to cheat.
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>>56766953
>im not OP, dumb fuck.
You are a different poster and just guessing as to why the OP made the new thread way too early and making the same exact posts as the OP's first responses to being told he's a faggot.

Quit shitposting.
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>>56766977
>You mean the correct unbiased OP format that we've had for years?
Are you the same faggot who made the same claim and then posted an archive which should how the OP was not "unbiased" even in 2014?

Do you just repeat the same bullshit because you are emotionally invested in your opinion or just disregard the truth because you have a mental imbalance?
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>>56767083
Are you the shitposting faggot Jakkasu that wants to further derail this thread?

Thought so.
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>>56766767
>shitposting
>>56766977
>shitposter
>>56767043
>shitposting
>>56767109
>shitposting
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>>56766775
>Ive heard that 7.1 is a gimmick, but its got to be worth something right?
You gotta try it for yourself man. Don't believe these audiotists here. One speaker for each frequency so you can hear footsteps. That's why it's called gaming headphones. If you want headphones for music you buy music headphones then.
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>>56767109
>It's everyone else's fault that I am shitposting
No one forces you to hit the click on the post or hit the keys to write your shit. It is some jakkasu's fault.

This whole thing could be avoided if you either 1) stop shitposting, or 2) stop making a new thread before the bumplimit. Don't let simple facts get in the way of your self-delusions.
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>>56767318
1) I'm not shitposting

2) I'm not the OP

3) You're shitposting

4) You're a faggot
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>>56766976
Ill look at either the Core or the Cloud, thanks

>>56767236
I know that 7.1 works, ive been using Kraken 7.1 for 5 and a half years. There are definitely times where im sound whoring in Overwatch. To be completely honest, I havent used a good stereo headset/headphones in a while. The last ones I got were some steel series that I returned the same day, and everyone knows that Beats are only passible
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>>56767369
>It's not shitposting when *I* do it
I know you're a liar but damn dude. At least try to make it look like you aren't a kid.
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>>56767236
>i have no idea what i'm talking about: the post
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>>56766643

Help me guys. Are my xiaomi piston 2s done? Can she be saved? I love them so much after last week the right side fucked up and now audio only comes from the left. I found out it was a flimsy connection here and I opened it up. I don't know what to do next. How do I fix this, please help bros.
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>>56767236
You're retarded, and I hope you're just baiting, but I'll address you as if you're not. Someone else might at least get some information out of it.

None of the Hyper X Revolver series have multiple drivers per ear. He's talking about virtual 7.1.

Multiple drivers is also a myth. Don't buy into that shit. I've used headsets with multiple drivers. Doesn't do shit. The only advantage of having more than 2 drivers is less distortion, but on headphones, you're not anywhere near volumes to hear that [other than the driver itself being trash]

You're hearing the same fuckin frequencies
There isn't a single speaker for each frequency either. I'll assume you mean as in sub, low, mid, high or whatever.
That's not even 7.1 in itself. Just shithouse marketing.
7.1 is about the angles each driver is from you and the other drivers.

Virtual surround sound is achieved solely through drivers. The headphones themselves mean nothing. Good virtual surround sound can work fine, but is often limited via the game/media itself.

>>56767457
if the placement wasn't as close to what I assume is the splitter, you'd be alright
theoretically it can be fixed, but it'll be an ass to do so.
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forgot the link last time cause I'm smart
https://www.amazon.com/review/R3648M2XO5HOEG/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00004SY4H&channel=detail-glance&nodeID=11091801&store=musical-instruments
but this is a good read
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I have a question for you guys. I recently tried out the Steelseries Siberia v3 headset and I absolutely fell in love with the headband.

For some reason it feels really fucking comfy and I was thinking about getting them, but I don't want to fall for the gaming headset meme.

So my question is, are there any headphones that use a similiar system? I care more about comfort than sound. Pic related.
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>>56767666
open AKG headphones
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>>56767666
From what I can tell, AKG does similar things. Test them out in stores, see what you like.
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>>56767722
not him, but what store has AKG headphones or even mid range sennheiser?

im from US
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Please help - I'm really just looking for advice on where to start, I think I want to buy more than one pair of headphones so I can start getting a sense of what I like

>Budget
~$200 (CAD), pretty flexible, really looking for something not too pricey (would rather spend 150 than 250).

>Location
Canada

>Source
See pic related.

>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized.

>Open or closed
I'm indifferent. I haven't tried any high-end headphones, will probably end up getting a pair of each to get a sense of what they're about.

>Comfort level
Though I'd prefer something comfortable, comfort is not a deal breaker by any means.

>Preferred tonal balance
Really not too sure. I think somewhere in the area of warm/neutral is what I'm looking for

>Past headphones
Garbage, Sony MDR-XD100.

>Other probably unnecessary info
I've done most of my listening on my speakers (Technics SB-A52s) but my receiver recently died. My replacement receiver doesn't have a built in phono amp so I've decided to get the DarkVoice as an amp for that purpose, so it seems like a good time to get a good pair of headphones, as the DarkVoice is a headphone amp after all.
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I have these old X32 turtle beaches that I want to use for my laptop and was wondering if it would be better to get a cheap adaptor or just get a pc headset?
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>>56767809
Every headphone store?
I live in a city of less than 1 million people and there are several stores with them.
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>>56767697
>>56767722
Thanks, seems like what I'm looking for.
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>>56767839
get a good pair of headphones and an antlion
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>>56767839
Turtle beach is honestly abysmal. You'd be better off buying decent headphones all together. Hell, even other Gaymeme headsets would be better.

Also, can't you just plug them in via a 3.5 cable? I'd imagine that would work.
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>>56768113
They are x32. They only work for xbox. They have a 1.5 mm instead of 3.5 mm
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>>56767840
>every headphone store

I only see bose, beats, sony and some other low end brand.

What is the name of the store you go to?
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>>56768148
the fuck, that's retarded
You really would be better to just get something like the clouds
or an actual good set of headphones

>>56768285
Just a local DJ store
can't remember what its called, but i doub't it'd even help you if i did
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>>56768688
Ya ik. Already orderd better headphones. Dont know if you were the guy but thanks for the help
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Any ~50$ headphones with detatchable cables and good bass
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Aune T1 Yay/Nay?
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Lookin for an amp, is there any point in getting anything but e10k if my price range is only 100 range? Would I even hear a difference around that range? Magni is about 150, is it real or just a meme
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>>56769017
For someone who's new to this shit, what do tube amps do different?
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>>56769098
What headphones you are planning to use it with?
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>>56769123
Dt770, thinking about upgrading to something else
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>>56769098
>>56769156
I use this with my DT 770s and I love it:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KVVX2QW/
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>>56769109
They fuck your shit up
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>>56768872
What headphones did you get?
>>56769098
Check the last thread. People were talking about e10k alternatives like the smsl
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What is the best non-in ear earphones under 200 burger pesos?

Yuan pk1/2?
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>>56769229
What benefits does it offer over the e10k? Never seen this one. Looks pretty fucking big tho
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Ahoy lads, just got my HE350's in the mail after waiting for a gorjillion years but I've run into the problem that I hear a hissing noise on standby. I havn't heard this before when I used my audiotechnica headphones. Does this mean I require an amp? or maybe a DAC? if so What's a good amp to power these headphones?
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>>56769517
It has a power brick, so it can get louder/work with higher impedance headphones than the e10k. It also has a line in that you can plug another device in, I used to have a wii connected to mine, so I could switch to wii audio with the switch on the front. I am going to hook up the line in to an audio device passed through to my GPU passthrough VM, so that I can switch to the VM audio with the switch.

I have never tried the e10k, so I can't say how it compares. If you need it to be portable you should definitely go with the e10k, as it only needs USB.
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>>56769365
Z22 turtle beach. Ik they arent the best but they were on sale from 80 to 20 bucks and i dont need anything fancy. Also like the comfort they have.
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Is the E10k really compatible with the HD600?

The recommended ohms for the E10k are 16-150ohms and not up to 307 ohms. I've seen people say that you'd be missing out on 10-15% of the HD600's sound quality.
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>>56769540
Its interference that your onboard DAC picks up from other components in your PC. An external DAC will fix that. [Unless your headphones are straight defective, but I highly doubt that.
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>>56769658
It is.
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>>56769658
This is supposed to work with up to 600 ohms (>>56769229). It gets very loud with my 250 ohm DT 770s, and I always have the gain switch off.

You could also use the e10k as your DAC and get a separate amp.
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>>56769658
>I've seen people say that you'd be missing out on 10-15% of the HD600's sound quality.
Those are the same people that say different cables and different colored ear cups will change the sound. You can't miss "percentange" of sound, unless it's actually clipping which it won't unless you set it to high gain and rotate the volume knob to almost max.
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>>56769653
Honestly, at that price I can't really fault you. That said, for 17 more you could have got HD 681 EVO's which are actually really good budget cans.

>>56769658
yeahno youre not missing a 'percentage' of the sound. Impedance (Ohms) aren't really a measurement of too much in relation to whatever youre driving.
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>>56769720
Any external DAC I should invest in? I'm pretty new to this so I don't know what the proper drive for the headphones is. My budget is 100 americano dollaridoos.
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I'm looking for an amp for HD 650s and I'm currently leaning towards an O2 or a Magni 2, since they're about the same price and I don't want to break the bank. I know Magni is more powerful, but I don't plan to listen to anything above comfortable listening volume, so I'm guessing that doesn't matter much.

Is there any reason relating to audio quality to pick one over the other, or should I get something altogether different for this headphone? Note that I'm just looking for an amp, meaning it should have a line-level input, not a USB DAC/amp combo.
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>>56769775
What headphones do you have?
There were discussions about budget dacs at the end of last thread and and a lil in this thread

Currently IMO the best budget DAC is the SMSL M3
Though if you want something a bit less bulky [its on your desk, it really shouldn't matter] the Fiio e10K is an option.
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>>56769830
Using the HE350's would the SMSL M3 drive them well?
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Will audiophile headphones get me a girlfriend?
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>>56770113
Yes.
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This isn't headphone related, but it is audio related.
I was wondering what solutions you guys use for desktop and TV audio.
I don't want surround sound. 2 channels is enough for me, but right now my desktop speakers are a bit clunky since I have two monitors and they aren't equally spaced in front of me. So there is this awkward speaker gap between them.
Also TV default audio sucks ass. I bought a used speaker system off someone for $10 but the audio it pumps out is overdriven, or too low.
Is there a solution for me? Yes I have good headphones already, but sometimes I like to go without something squeezing my head.
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A little game: Which IEM goes to which graph?
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>>56770376
Irrelevant question, but do IEMs offer the best sound quality out of every headphone (open, closed, iem, ear buds, overear, onear, whatever else). All those charts with amazing sub-bass response make me jelly as fuck. Even closed back headphones have a rolled off sub-bass
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>>56769791
While the Magni 2 is more powerful than the O2, the O2 already has more power than you will need.
As such, get whichever is the cheaper option.
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>>56770505
O2 it is then, I actually like it more from a subjective looks perspective too and since it's smaller I can find room on my pretty cluttered desk without rearranging shit.
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>>56770160
You wrote all that and still couldn't manage to describe what it is you need.

Do you just want a pair of speakers to plug in to a receiver that works with your PC and TV?

Any old AV receiver with optical will do fine, as long as your pc has digital output. Just go to your local hifi or electronics shop and audition a few.
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>>56770774
Do note that you can find stereo receivers or use a 5.1 receiver with only 2 speakers and a sub.
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>>56770450
>All those charts with amazing sub-bass response make me jelly as fuck. Even closed back headphones have a rolled off sub-bass
That's because closed back headphones don't necessarily seal off the ear, they include vents at the driver or elsewhere. The requirement for bass extension to DC is an airtight cavity. Some open backed headphones do an okay job at sealing the ear tight, as do most in-ears.
If you lose the airtight seal, the infrasound and subbass goes away. IEMs are extremely vulnerable to loss of bass and even midrange. This is why you buy tons and tons of different eartips.
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Can anyone recommend headphones like the grados sr80?
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>>56770934
Koss Porta Pro
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>>56770774
Hmm. How to put this because I don't even know what I want.

1. Less desktop clutter. Maybe something I can fit under or on top of my main screen?
2. With a volume knob preferably, but my keyboard has one of those as well so no biggie

as for my living room. I have absolutely no idea. I've got a 42" smart TV and all I use it for is netflix and multiplayer games. I just want something cheap and that will also fit on my small TV stand. Hell if I can velcro it to the back of the TV that would be cool. A remote to operate the volume would be nice too.

Does that help? I'm open to other suggestions as well.
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>>56767817
K612 Pro?
>>56770376
L and F are the Panasonics which are the same.
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>>56770934
>grado

Eat a bullet
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>>56770450
personally the nature of an IEM only interacting with the ear cannal dulls some sounds that full-sized headphones do better, for me anyways. IEMs can have great bass extension, but the sense of impact is reduced and narrowed compared to a similar sounding headphone. it sounds like bass coming through a tube, which is exactly what it is. headphones and speakers do the feeling of bass better, even if they frequently have problems with extension.
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>>56771919
let's not even put headphones and speakers in the same sentence when talking about bass.
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>>56770376
I think C or J is the 7550, maybe a
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What's the best sound signature for orchestra music? Been thinking about getting the Mi hybrids but those are V shaped (some people say it's not super sharp).
>Budget
sub $30
>Location
Burgerland
>Type
in-ear
>Music
Mostly orchestra or soundtracks
>Past headphones
MDR-v6, Piston 3s
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>>56771966
I think bright would be the best since it puts an emphasis on the mids and highs.
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>>56771966
>What's the best sound signature for orchestra music?
Bright.

You won't get a lot, if any, bright options in that budget as most cheap IEMs lean to very bass heavy.
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>>56771966
>What's the best sound signature for orchestra music?
neutral, slightly warm or slightly bright imo. v-shaped, highly mid-centric, or janky/spiky FR is the worst I think, or any extreme example of a sig.

xiaomi hybrids are very bassy, though only mildly v-shaped. they're like the piston 2 with the treble spike reduced. piston 3 is hard to get now and fakes are everywhere but that would be the best for classical. most IEMs, especially at that budget, are going to be pretty v-shaped. if not the piston 3 get a tpod tt1e.
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>>56771988
>>56772003
>>56772049
Dang, my previous pistons got stolen a few weeks back. The ones I see on Amazon are most likely fakes. Are there any online retailers still selling the genuine pistons?
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Fucking Christ why do the mods allow inbreds like you to post nearly naked almost porn anime girls on a sfw board?
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>>56772249
hi leddit
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>>56772261
Isn't the point of a sfw board to be safe for fucking work? Because half naked softcore hentai would definitely get me fired.
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>>56772275
you shouldn't be browsing 4chan at work. stop slacking off.
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>>56772281
>missing the point this hard
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>>56772294
sfw porn would likely get you fired too, are you going to watch it at work? it's sfw after all.
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>>56772318
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>>56766705
>>Wireless is frowned upon.

Why? Are you lacking in courage anon?
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>>56772352
C O U R A G E
O U R A G E
U R A G E
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>>56769658
Impedance is not of importance at all. No idea how you figure losing percentages of sound quality, it simply doesn't work that way.
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>>56772322
O_O

uh...

You do realize that what you just posted is EXTREMELY offensive to people of color, right?
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>>56772884
Where do you think we are?
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aw, i'm late for the party of this kekfest:
>>56772884
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>>56772884
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Looking for a nice set of headpones for my PC.

Details below.

$100-200 Range
USA
PC - Preferably wired but can be wireless
Full size
Closed
Comfortable - willing to sacrifice comfort for sound quality

I decided to move onto buying headphones dedicated to audio only. The sets I usually bought are the ones that have both the microphone and audio set.

Thanks.
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>>56772884
>t.nigger
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Hi /g/ I don't really know too much about headphones but I'm looking to replace my AKG K-701 as one of the drivers has broken.

I'm considering the K-702's but I'm interested in other recommendations. Budget is about $3-400. I listen to fairly wide variety of music but in particular a lot of dojin music.

I'm in Australia but I'll probably buy online.

Thanks
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>>56773496
What do you mean by broken? What does it sound like? I'm also in Australia. What is dojin?
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Anyone have any experience with Philips X2? Ive read nothing but good things about them.
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>>56773512
>What is dojin?
doujin music is basically weeaboo trash music with the production value of a viper album.
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>>56773450
You could look into the m40x's
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My friend keeps saying HD600 and DT880 must have a tube amp.

Bottlehead Crack is having a sale. Should I stop using my O2+ODAC and use a Crack+ODAC?
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>>56773599
Crack HD600 emphasises the mudheisser meme.
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>>56773496
Just get HD600's because everyone on hpg likes it. I still don't know if this post >>56773524 is you.

K702's are cool though. I own both HD600 and K702.
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What are the go-to IEMs for price to performance ratio? /csg/ seems to have lost its boner for zircons in favor of hybrids.
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>>56773665
i seriously hope you don't mean xiaomi hybrids, because they are a worse piston 3
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>>56773665
TTPOD T1E gets shilled freely a lot in /hpg/. It doesn't even have online measurements. So go with those.
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>>56773678
I'm just telling you what the latest and greatest /csg/ meme is, daddy-o. I don't know anything about them.

I own zircons, and I like them, but they're a bit bassy. I think I'd prefer something closer to a neutral sound.
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>>56773694
cheapest very neutral iem you'd probably be looking at is the ety mk5 or one of the cheaper kids models. most sub $50 iems are bass heavy.
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>>56773733
Is LG Quadbeat 3 AKG bass heavy?

http://clarityfidelity.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/lg-quadbeat-3-tuned-by-akg-iem.html
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>>56773759
yes
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https://clarityfidelity.blogspot.com/2016/09/thd-altec-lansing-inmotion-im616-iem.html
>literally HD600 the in-ear
probably has the same headstage width too and better distortion.
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>>56773786
Measures like an ER4 with bass roll off.
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>>56773834
and a dip in treble + hump in upper midrange so hd600.
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>>56773786
http://en.goldenears.net/GR_Earphones/11177

We can't buy this IEM anywhere online? Wtf?
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>>56773786
That has more bass roll off than HD 600 or 650, tonality closer to HD 650 and worse distortion. It is like ER-4 with a slight lack of seal.
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>>56773880
>That has more bass roll off than HD 600 or 650
Delusional, the HD600 roll off just as much if not more.. It even has the midbass hump of the HD600/650.
>and worse distortion
Can you even read the distortion measurements? The 20hz goes a little over 1% while the hd600 sub bass distortion skyrockets.
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>>56773759
Yes but it has a nice bassy response among its price point. Pretty balanced and it does the rise in upper mids right.

>>56773901
All you need to do is check HD 650 and HD 600 measurements on the same site. Yes I can and knowing how sub bass THD is almost always inaudible, I'm more worried on the midrange distortion which is very akin to ER-4 and considerably higher than the Sennheisers.
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>>56773935
>is almost always inaudible
maybe with well engineered headphones, not the hd600 though.
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Require your expert assistance

Currently lookin at this, open to price range matches and better options. Cheers
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>>56774131
>AIAIAI
>ever
Consider DT770, K553 even HM5/XPT100 and MDR7506.
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>>56774159
Akg 553 vs the aiaiai present shown
Go
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>>56774312
How about b&o h2?
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>>56774312
Without any measurements of the TMA 2, basing off the TMA 1 measurements, they are straight up shit.
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>>56774131
it's the Beats of hipsters
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>>56766643

my dick
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Hello, in here looking for a new pair since the left side of my Piston 3's died as I yawned and stretched my hands. Never do that.

I got a budget of 200 euros, shipping to Finland. I don't really have a special amp for headphones, or converter, so flexing the budget so that I could include one. I have a home theater receiver for speakers, but it only has a 6.4mm jack and I'd prefer the 3.5mm.

I enjoy a lot of music with recognizable bass that doesn't try to push in front too much. My favourite genres are ambient, drone, "IDM" and shoegaze. So lower tones are nice, but nothing sub-bass level. I'm not too sure about soundshapes, I think a neutral is what I'm looking for.

I'd prefer closed back headphones if they fit in the budget. I want them to be comfortable as they would be on my head for hours upon hours every day, since headphones are what I primarily use anyways. My past experiences upon headphones have pretty much been the Superlux HD668b and Xiaomi Piston 3's, where in both I enjoyed the bass but I think the highs got a bit messy sometimes. Neither could hold too well on high volume either. They were a good bang for the buck though, but now I got enough money to support something better.
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>>56774835
Oh yeah I would be connecting them to PC anyways so I guess I could be fine with a DAC converter as well?
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Let it be known that the following proposition will not care about channel reservations and practicality as a mass produced product.

Wireless headphones.
Even with low latency aptx they have +40ms delay.

But what if you built a direct analog transmitter for the PCIe x1 bus and integrated the receiver + regular sound card in the headphones.

No complicated data conversions to aptx format and back=Less delay with lossless transmission?
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Does anyone have a good advise for some headphones? (Will be the first time I invest in a good pair)
I am searching for a closed full-size from less than 100€ with the best comfort/quality/sound relation, the options are so much I don't really know what to choose
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>>56774970
you could use one of those fm transmitter things for cars
in fact I might try that just for shits and giggles, I wonder if they give enough power
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>>56775128
sennheiser hd215 maybe? Very comfortable, good sound with not too much bass, but pretty big.
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>>56775174
Isn't the quality of the earpad kind of bad? The ones you need to worry about not putting any wet thing near them or they'll tear apart?
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>>56773527
Thx m8
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Is magni 2 worth it? Only driving some dt770s
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>>56773527
Is there any reason other than cost to go with the m40x over the m50x?
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>>56776794
People say that they sound better. They're supposed to sound a lot more neutral and not have a bloated low end.
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is M6pro the best price/performance detachable cable IEM?
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>>56777596
I've heard a lot of good things about some chinese iem's like the senfer ue and 4 in 1.
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>>56773759
That's the AKG version, I have the regular version, it sounds superb. Subjective impression is has a flattish frequency response with lots of sub-bass, can be a tad bright at times on music with not a lot of bass impact.

>>56773786
Just get Etys, pham.

>>56773851
Out of production.

>>56773957
Is this some new meme? The sub-bass distortion in the HD600 is audible, if it was audible it would be a garbage tier headphone. You can also boost the shit out of it with an EQ and it won't distort, and yes it responds to EQ well because they seal well and the driver is capable of producing a lot of sub-bass, it's just that the acoustic design limits that in its stock form, just like most open dynamic headphones.

It's not just the HD600 too, you can boost the sub-bass and hear the effects on any other properly sealed open dynamic like DT880, HD558, etc.

>>56774835
Maybe DT250 80 ohm, fairly neutral, slight treble roll off, handles high volume listening well without becoming too bright. Fairly flat bass and midrange.

>>56774891
Just plug it into your motherboard, pham.

It has a coiled cable so maybe consider a headphone extension cable. No fancy cable required, any cheap one will do.

>>56777596
I think so. You get a lot of accessories.
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>>56778634
>The sub-bass distortion in the HD600 is audible
*inaudible
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>>56778653
prove it
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is there any other better option for me @ $200 than the v-moda m100's?
>portability
>detachable cable
>somewhat bassy sound signature (i listen to rap & electronic)
>closed
>doesn't require an amp

any better headphones that fit this criteria?
>>
Is the AKG 553 pro good? $120
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>>56778825
Burden of proof is on the one who claimed that the sub-bass distortion is audible on the HD600.

The thing is well reviewed, if distortion was audible on such a well known production I'm sure many would have picked up on it.
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>>56779541
the burden of proof is on the claimant which means both positions regardless of when the statements were made.

>The thing is well reviewed, if distortion was audible on such a well known production I'm sure many would have picked up on it.
how many is "many"? took me 5 seconds to find this on google.
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>>56779882
That's just a bad unit. Doesn't mean it's the case for all.
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>>56766643
lewd
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I've had to return two bluetooth headphones now because they have the annoying flashing blue led light when they are powered on. Does anyone know of any wireless headphones without that?
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Where do you lads buy your headphones from? For the past few years I have been using chink sellers to get them directly instead of buying rebranded/in actual stores but I always like seeing where other people purchase their own from.
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>>56780250
amazon
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>>56776760
not for 80 ohm
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>>56771933
Probably C for the 5.5kHz treble peak.
>>
>Budget

$100-130 USD - Flexible

>Location

US

>Source

PS4/PC - needs to have a mic

>Preferred type of headphone

no preference

>Open or closed

open

>Comfort level

pretty comfy

>Preferred tonal balance

no preference

>Past headphones

[spoiler]sony gold headset[/spoiler]
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I'm new to audio stuff, so I have probably a really stupid question. I'm looking to buy a cheap DAC, and the one I'm looking at only has an optical or coaxial input. Would an optical to 3.5mm adapter going to my PC impact the audio quality in any way?
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>>56781374
Hang yourself with the optical cable.
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>>56781374
The point of a DAC is that it C's the D audio into an A signal, you shouldn't be running an analog cable (like 3.5mm) between your DAC and computer. The USB cable sends the D, and the DAC takes over from there, outputting to your speakers/headphones
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>>56781374
A digital optical output would be fine, doesn't really make a difference over USB anyways, but that means for sure it'll need to be plugged into the wall
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>>56781238
sennheiser game one
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>>56781801

>$100-130+ budget
>recommends $249 headset
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>>56782044
165 on amazon, apply yourself faggot
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>>56782148
>$100-130+ budget
>recommends $165 headset
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>>56782201
you said flexible, kiddo
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Recommend a good everyday headphone. Budget is 100-150$
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would ER-4PT pair well with a warm DAC like the Cozoy Astrapi?
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How come no one recommends the superlux 681 evo anymore? Is it consider shit now under 50? I remember people shilling them 2 years ago.
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>>56782201

If +35 dolla ain't flexible to you, then you should maybe not use that word.

Also if you're so broke that you're flinching over 35 bucks, but not patient enough to just earn a little more, then maybe you shouldn't be spending money on headphones.
>>
I recently tried my friends ath-ad700 and really enjoyed that airy feel, should I buy 700x?
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I have beyerdynamic dt990 premium and I am ahving issues with the left ear cup im not sure what the fuck it is. I checked all the questions they look solid on the driver messed around with the entire cable and connection and cannot reproduce the crackling and having the left just stop working all together. Sometimes when its crackling I can kind of tap the cup and itll stop. It also is magically working right now
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>>56782406
Lose wires at the drivers. Open the cup and move the wires while playing music. Its most likely the solder not touching the metal properly. Might have to solder it by yourself.
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>>56782421
Yeah I did that but the sound wasn't turning off either. I move the wires around to see if they would turn the sound of but its not working. Also few minutes ago it stopped completely I decided not to move at all and turn the sound up just in the left ear it came back on but crackled a bit back to normal now.
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The Superlux HD668B is alright, right?
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>>56782551
Depends if you like treble rape.
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>>56782840
How bad is it?
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>>56782851
Quite.
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>>56782851
Pretty bad honestly but apparently some people are not sensitive to it and think it's fine
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>>56782277
DT770 Pro 80 ohm limited edition, 130 usd

Alternatives: XPT100, MDR-V6, MDR-7506, ATH-M50x, ATH-M40x

>>56782318
>warm DAC

>>56782369
Cheap build.

>>56782384
AD700x? Yes.
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>>56773513
They're great if you want a warm, bassy, open headphone.
Don't have the same fidelity as HD 600's or whatever else, but for the quality of bass they have, it's pretty damn good.
>>56781238
The Sennheiser headsets if you can afford it.
If not, Hyper X Cloud Cores
cheap as fuck now and sound amazing. Build like a god.
>>56782384
If you don't mind the 'headband' system, yes. The best other alternative is HD 558's if you don't. Neither have amazing build quality.
>>56782369
Dunno, for the price they're pretty good. They're quite bassy, but they're definitely a fun headphone. The 662 EVO is a bit better if you want a bit of a cleaner sound.
>>56782551
Eh, no. Probably not for your use at least. The EVO series is a much better headphone for music/media consumption. The only thing the 558B does well is how crisp they sound. They're probably one of the best headphones cheaper than SHP9500's or HD 558's for vidya. I used them exclusively for CS:GO after getting velour AKG pads and put some felt in front of the driver. After that, they're comfy af, and have amazing soundstage, imaging, and separation.
>>56782277
DT 770 if you want V shaped. Closed.
MDR V6 if you want neutral. Closed
HD 558 if you want more neutral sound. Open
HD 518 if you want more bass. Open
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>>56783065
>Don't have the same fidelity as HD 600's or whatever else, but for the quality of bass they have, it's pretty damn good.
How do they compare to the HD650? I've read that the 650 is bassier and EQs really well
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>>56783065
I'd argue that SHP9500 is better than HD5xx simply because of their superior impedance curve.

HD5xx sounds awful on some sources.
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This is a gaming headset.

And no, it's not a Sennheiser.
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Can someone explain:
>bassy (boosted bass)
>warm (recessed treble)
>neutral (even bass and treble)
>bright (boosted treble)
>v-shaped (boosted bass and treble)
>mid-centric (recessed bass and treble).
Like what are these types of sounds? What kind of music/sound are these like?
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>>56783258
This is the HD600 for comparison.

There is literally nothing wrong with gaming headsets.
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>>56783276
Open your music player, play with the EQ.
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>>56783258
name please?
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>>56783289
Logitech G933 Artemis Spectrum

http://www.pcgamer.com/we-tested-23-mainstream-gaming-headsets-to-find-the-best/
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does /g/ still like the o2 amp and odac?
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>>56783289
looks like the logitech g933
>>
Okay, anons, I've got a 'holy grail' kind of question for you. What is the no-holds-barred absolute best neutral headphones and IEMs? What DAC/Amp would you use with them?
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>>56783146
Doesn't compare even remotely. The difference between the 600 and 650 is minuscule compared to the X2 and either one.
The 650 is only marginally more bassy than the 600. I can't say anything about EQing them, but I'd imagine the 650's are no better at EQing than the 600's

Both are fairly flat. The X2's aren't at all.

Unless immediately swapping out from X2's to something like HD600's, you wouldn't notice much difference. Its minimal at best. If you do want warm, bassy, open headphones, go for the X2's. They're good.

>>56783220
I've never had issue with that, but I don't personally have bad gear. They sound fine on my phone too. I can imagine if they're using an old mobo's onboard sound then yeah sure, I could see that happening. The 9500's also have a tiny bit of weird fuzziness in the highs somewhere in my experience, and the 558's are more comfortable imo. I really don't like the material used on the 9500's earpads, but that's pretty subjective. Build quality is about the same. Senn's feel pretty clunky, but theyre a lot more robust than they actually feel. Still wouldn't bend them like crazy or anything. The metal in the 9500's is pretty nice.

>>56783258
>>56783278
>>56783309
comparing graphs means nothing other than they have the similar measured frequency response. doesn't give any idea in terms of sound quality. percieved sound matters more.

the g933 don't sound bad, but theyre so bulky and weird. earpads are kinda ech, and theyre built in a way that fuckin boggles me.
overpriced too, but if you get em on sale theyre probably not a bad buy.

>>56783276
>Can someone explain
nigger what
thats what the text inside the brackets does
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>>56783258
any fucking headphone would look good on that y-axis scale.
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>>56783315
I was thinking about getting those to power my 600ohms because its way more compact than what I have now.
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>>56772145
Original Mi Xiaomi Piston 3 Earphone In-Ear 3.5mm Colorful Earphone With Mic Basic Version Earphones Original Packing
http://s.aliexpress.com/zeAZZ36V

Just bought some from here. Pretty sure they're not fake. Sold from Xiaomi direct.
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>Budget
~200 USD
>Location
US
>Source
Plugging them straight into the computer
>Open or closed
Either is fine for me
>Comfort level
Maximum comfy, I will probably wear these for hours at a time and don't want to strain my ears/head.

These will just be used for general computer use, Anything from music to movies to games. I just want something with good build quality, sounds decent, and feels good to wear.
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>>56783365
I have no idea what the fuck bass is besides BWAAAAP and treble I have no clue.
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>>56783405
This is the SR-009 which I'm not fond of, lacks gain in the upper mid area and it sounds a bit muffled to me.
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>>56783315
>does /g/ still like
Are you high? /hpg/ always treats the O2 as the king of headphone amps. Better than anything more expensive. And worship NwAvGuy all the way.
>>
>>56783544
you've never actually listened to them. also what amp did pcgamer use for the measurement? unlike dynamics and orthos, estats are much more reliant on a good amp, especially for the upper midrange/treble regions.
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>>56783498
DT770 sounds good for you Built amazingly, comfy as fuck pads, and great sound quality. Good bass too if you like that. Only downside of them is non-detachable cable.
See if you can get Phillips X2 for cheap anywhere too. They'd be better unless you want closed.

Most other headphones in that range are either uncomfy, or built pretty grossly for some reason.

>>56783514
Google can help you with that.
Just google something like 'audiophile terminology' or whatever.
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>>56783557
I did. The fact that you're asking what amp they used already tells me that you're a retard who thinks amp affects the sound quality.

The SR-009 is nothing special, its sound signature is entirely dependent on its frequency response which is nothing special.
>>
>>56783065
Wait, Senns 558B?
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>>56783562
>Phillips X2
shit I just missed a 50% sale on amazon
>>
>>56783589
your post has just established your absolute lack of knowledge in how electrostatic amplifiers and headphones work and how they differ to traditional dynamics and orthos.

but yes, keep going on about how you know anything, you've listened to all the expensive headphones in the world because you can say it on 4chan and remind us of why we should be sucking nwavguy's dick some more.
>>
>>56783618
>lack of knowledge

Oh the irony.
>>
>>56783602
You asking about where I mistyped 668B as 558B or asking about some whimsical nonexistent Sennheiser headphone?

>>56783614
fuck that woulda been nice. wait it out if you want, and keep an eye out for other deals. That said, the sound difference between 770's and X2's won't be too massive. You could live with either.
>>
>>56783639
why do you even bother posting when you don't have a clue of what you're talking about?

please do throw another 'oh le irony xD' response to really let me appreciate how uneducated you are.
>>
>>56783358
>IEMs
ER4SR

>What DAC/Amp would you use with them?
Any decent solid state.
>>
>>56783589
Idealy every amp would be perfect and sound the same, but that's not the case and a bad amp might indeed change how a headphone sounds, it's a bit autistic, but if Anon wants to know what amp was used during a measurement, you can't just dismiss the question as non-sense.
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>>56783358
ER4SR and HD600.
Maybe an O2/ODAC combo.

The Shure open backs are more neutral than the HD600 but have high distortion, haven't heard them myself but one anon has (I think the geeky anon who posts here from time to time). When I asked him what was wrong when he listened to the Shures he said 'the distortion'.
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>>56783890
>bad amp might indeed change how a headphone sounds
Literally stopped reading there.
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>>56783939
but still cared enough to say so, you are quite the childish type, aren't you?
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>>56783890
>you can't just dismiss the question as non-sense.
again, comparing the difference in solid state amps for dynamic/ortho headphones to an electrostatic amplifier is hilarious.

if the uneducated cunt had ever actually listened to the sr009 (or any other electrostat, really) he wouldn't be arguing this. but he's just some idiot with an e10k and hd558 trying to pose as an electrical engineer.
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>>56784052
>I have no argument
>lemme shitpost and project him with his headphone equipment
>>
>>56784076
>i have no argument
>i will just spout the nonsense r/headphones and z reviews taught me
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Just a few examples of Amp measurements:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ViolectricV281.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/JDSLabsO2ACPowered.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/EddieCurrentBlackWidow.pdf
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>>56783065
Wouldn't a Hi2050 or Somic V2 beat HD668 by a mile?
>>
>>56784113
Measurements don't tell the whole story

things like soundstage, imaging and detail means that you have to listen to the amps themselves
>>
>>56783656
its so ironic that you have no idea what ur talkin about lol :)
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>>56784156
for audio yeah
for vidya like csgo or battlefield where footsteps are where all you care about no

i'd get the takstars anyway just cause theyre actually comfy and built well
better than somics
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Any weeb classical out there? Can anyone give me some recs?
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>>56784160
Not saying measurements are everything, just posting some random ones since people so far only used variations of "i know this shit and you don't", maybe some data will contribute to a more interesting debate.
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>>56784185
i recommend you kill yourself.
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>>56784189
http://tom-morrow-land.com/tests/ampchall/

There is no need to debate a well known topic.
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>>56784185
weeb can't be classical lmao
unless you mean orchestral
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>>56784185
Pretty much every Eva OST
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>>56784196
>hating on Sound of the Sky

You really REALLY do not belong here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOao5xYf8Oo&list=PL300ktMVZEzqrpw8B0o3psDdem-fd4usc&index=14
>>
>>56784185
https://bakabt.me/torrent/153769/ginga-eiyuu-densetsu-music-collection
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>>56784266
nobody cares about your weeb trash.
>>
Has anyone returned anything to beyerdynamic? I'm still in between the two year warranty not sure how to even RMA there website is confusing.
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>>56784246
This is what I meant, yes.
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>>56784275
What are you doing here normie?
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>>56784362
>being offended to this extent when your music taste is called shit
no better than a brony, really. take a good hard look at yourself, casualfag.
>>
>budget
50€ flexible budget
>location
Germany
>source
PS4, N3DSXL, TV, phone and ipad on occasion
>preferred type
full sized
>open or close
open
>comfort level
comfy within the budget range
>preferred tonal balance
as neutral as possible within the budget range
>>
>>56784387
HD681
>>
>>56784373
>hating on classical music
>calls people casual
wew
>>
>>56784510
>"classical" music
>anime shit
stop posting you clown
>>
>>56784414
HD681 isnt neutral
its just trebble to fuck
>>56784387
your best option is 668b with velour pads and and some felt in front of the driver
or if he is youre fine with slightly v shaped, Takstar hi2050's
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/electronic-2015-brand-3-5mm-Original-Genuine-TAKSTAR-HI2050-Hi-Fi-Stereo-Headphones-Music-Headset-studio/32279127183.html
same headphone, just different name

i'd go with the takstars
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>>56784522
Oh you didn't listen to it to begin with.

You really have no argument here.
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>>56784268
That's a big huge ass torrent. What album or track should I try?
>>
I had some Xiaomi Piston 3s, but broke them in a stupid manner. Should I get another set of 3s or Hybrids?
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>>56784268
When I meant classical I didn't really mean war marches.
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>>56784569
I didn't realize when you said 'classical' you meant 'orchestral'. I gave you actual classical that was used in anime.
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>>56784578
Another 3
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>>56784558
>dumb weeaboo listens to trashy music for the sake of it being anime music
you had no argument to begin with.
>>
Not headphone related but are 5.1 home theaters any good or they are just a meme?
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>>56783065
>>56781801

Sennheiser's headphones are top tier. But the gaming headsets are merely average.
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>>56784633
Sure, faggot.
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>>56784670
Kill yourself weeb.
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>>56784689
If I wanted to kill myself I would jump from ego and land where your IQ is.

Faggot.
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>>56784731
>I would jump from ego and land where your IQ is.
could you tip your fedora any harder?
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Hey so my Hifiman 400 headphones just fell apart and I'm a noob to this stuff. Is this an easy repair?
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>>56784777
Only SJWs own fedoras son.

You're sounding awfully like one right now.

>>56784806
Looks like the screw cap just fell out, put it back on?
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>>56784851
hey look the weeaboo is projecting his insecurities. go figure.
>>
>>56784867
The first step to redemption is accepting who you are, buddy. I'm here to help if you ever want someone to talk with privately.
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>>56784806
>hifiman
why am i not surprised

cant tell if thats a screw [or something threaded], or its just a metal rod with glue on it or something
just glue it back on with epoxy
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>>56784913
the day a basement dwelling reddit-tier tasted weeaboo is a qualified psychologist is the day hell freezes over
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>>56784915
Here's a closer pic if that helps, it's a screw

I won't be able to try anything for a couple weeks, just asking around for possible solutions in the meantime
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>>56784932
>basement dwelling reddit-tier tasted weeaboo
So literally you?
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>>56784950
doesnt matter what it is if the plastic is cracked at this point
just get some plastic epoxy, and shove it together
should be ez
ask /diy/ if you're stuck
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>>56784988
>the best retort the little baby could come up with
adorable.
>>
>>56784993
I'll see if that works, thanks m8
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>>56784996
What is this you little closet weeb? >>56784373
Desuposting while not on /a/? Your roundabout logic is making me very confused.
>>
>>56785027
just calling out you cringy newfags who obsess over anime to the point where you're searching for music for the sake of it being from anime and being buttblasted to the next galaxy over somebody calling your favourite garbage shitty.

this isn't the hugbox you once knew on reddit, get used to it.
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>>56784950
This is what warranty is for m8.
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>>56785056
i had one and it expired a few months ago my dude
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>>56784196
I listen to weeb shit occasionally on my $1400 speakers.
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>>56785078
>$1400 speakers.
unimpressive.
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>>56785052
I'm searching music due to the sake of it being orchestral, don't make up shit that never happened you dipshit.
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I currently use the Superlux HD668B

What is the cheapest upgrade that is actually worth it? These things apparently have such a good sound quality for their price.
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>>56785090
>Any weeb classical out there?
again, i recommend you kill yourself you worthless piece of shit.
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>>56785097
Takstar hi2050
if you want to jump higher you would be looking at HD 558, SHP 9500's, or some other midrange AKG's n shit
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I might be coming into a fair bit of money soon and I'm thinking of picking up a pair of HD 800S, Y/N?
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>>56783557
PC Gamer (Maximum PC) used a STAX SRM-007tII.

Fun fact: All STAX amps sound the same.

It's also the same with the exotic aftermarket amps, they all sound the same.
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>>56785106
That means that you have to kill yourself too my closet weeb friend in denial. At this point you are just arguing about yourself in circles.
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>>56785087
What speakers do you own?
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>>56785186
>backpedalling this hard
you were so confident in your search for music being unrelated to anime.
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>>56785199
ones that someone wealthy enough can afford that doesn't feel the need to brag about $1400 speakers on an anonymous imageboard, thinking it's an impressive expenditure.
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>>56785176
N
>>
>>
>>56785097
>>56785132

there was a link to cheap hi2050's i posted above
find it with 'control + f' if you want

im just a lazy cunt
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>>56785221
Why are you afraid to say the speakers that you own?
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>>56785248
>>56785248
>>56785248
>>56785248
>>56785248

NEW THREAD
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>>56785176
LCD-2s my boy.

>>56785204
And you were so confident in being part of the weeb hating wagon train that you didn't stop to think that you were one yourself.
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Currently using Bluedio 8-Tracks, but they're sort of falling apart and the bluetooth doesn't work as a result, not that I used that much. Either way I need to plan for whenever no amount of tape can repair them anymore.

What's a good option for an over-ear upgrade if I want to keep the price below $150? I'd prefer to keep to something bass-heavy like the ones I'm using at the moment.
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>>56785244
we'll let you keep thinking owning $1400 speakers makes you bill gates, wouldn't want to ruin it for you or deflate your ego.
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>>56785176
Just get a stock HD800 or a Lambda system.
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>>56785255
aside from not knowing what a weeaboo is, you lost the argument so hard now you're trying desperately to move the goalposts.
>LCD-2
and garbage recommendations to boot! good job you utterly retarded weeaboo cunt.
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>>56785261
Don't care, just state what speakers you own.
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>>56785258
DT770
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>>56785258
post in new thread
you prolly wont get many replies in here atm
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>>56785258
bluetooth?
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>>56785272
next you'll ask for photos, then timestamps. i don't have time to go home to take photos of things just to solidify the idea that $1400 for speakers is not a huge expenditure.

now you'll tell me i'm copping out. that's fine.
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>>56785297
Don't care, just state what speakers you own.

Even if you're lying or not.

Go on...
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>>56785269
Keep telling yourself that son, won't cover up the mental abuse your parent's gave you.

This may or may not be the reason behind your self hating roundabout logic so you turn to watching anime for a false sense of security.

>aside from not knowing what a weeaboo is
aaaaand confirmed.
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>>56783487
These look nothing like the original Piston 3s though. Xiaomi never made them in any color other than black and the design is completely different.
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Got these for 40 dollars

Havent tried them yet- whats the general opinion on these taking the price into consoderation
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>>56785591
Oh.. so did I buy fake ones? I still have time to cancel my order.
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>>56785255

LCD-2s look very tempting

>>56785263

Would that be better than an LCD-2?
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>>56785808
LCD-2s are heavy, uncomfortable and rolled off in the treble. Not to mention the build quality issues.
As for "better", that's preference. At least those suggestions can be worn for an hour without discomfort.
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