/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>Previously on: >>XXXXXXXX
I fucked up.

Actual previous thread: >>56746572

What do i need to do to safetly switch to hardened gentoo profile. Also can i use old config for pax kernel?

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Regarding rolling releases, if it's been long time since the last system upgrade.
Is it better to run -Syu and fet a large upgrade? or re-install new OS release?

How do I convert archive files like 7z or zip or tar.gz to another archive format?

>>56762610
Uncompress and unpack them, then compress and pack them.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/steam-libs/

I've tried a few times and always failed. This is always the output. Help me out, /fglt/

http://pastebin.com/c9u9MDJj

>>56762206
I want to change my desktop a little bit but I don't have much experience. I used my custom openbox before, and I'm planning cinnamon since it's quite minimal in terms of applications it comes with. Is there anything bad about cinnamon?

Also is it possible to just go with gnome but not the applications that come with it? How can I do that without having to go through 1000 gnome packages?

>>56762879
Sometimes there are gnome core or minimal metapackages you can install. After that you can install what you like. Probably more like a few hundred packages.

>>56762948
Thanks, I'll check it out.

>>56762206
should i be using google chrome on linux or firefox? right now i have chrome from the aur but it takes a little while to load up also a lot of extensions don't have native support.

i heard linux security is a meme so what should i do to protect my computer? is firejail even necessary?

>>56763067
First go with the threat model meme. Who are you protecting yourself against?

>>56762610
https://www.raymond.cc/blog/download/did/1282/

>>56763098
i mainly use public wifi networks in a majory city - library, coffee shops, etc.

i feel like these networks would be hotbeds for hackers and linux machine might be really exploitable?

>>56762574
If it's really been a long time then just try -Syu, and if it comes out bad you can reinstall. Do remember to back-up.

>>56763542
Is there any significant difference?
I have my /Home and separated partition.

>>56763648
Depends on your build and how long it really has been. Which is why you should try -Syu, as it most likely is faster unless it's been 2+ years. There might be issues with some packages, there might not. Check your distro website for news during the period you haven't updated (something you should always do before -Syu). If there are any problems concerning you there will probably be something about it.

>>56763705
Shouldn't upgrading to latest version, bypass whatever issue rises during those times?
Say distro is at versio 13 and version 15 had some issues, and the latest issue is 17.
Shouldn't upgrading from 13 to 17 bypass those?

>>56763067
Install Icecat

>>56763834
Depends. Version 15 may have changed a package making it necessary for you to interfere somehow. Say, depreciating some option. Version 17 retains those changes, and perhaps adds more and to various packages. That's why incremental upgrading so you handle breakage slowly or a complete reinstall seem appealing.

It's my first time installing Linux (Ubuntu MATE) and I'm confused about my partitions. If I have an SSD and an HDD, and just want to use the SSD for the OS and some common programs, how should I set up my partitions? I don't want things like downloads to default to the SSD, just things I choose to install on it. Is that /boot and /home on the SSD or(?)

>>56763135
The browser doesn't matter here. Everyone in the same network with you can manipulate or sniff your connections. That's why https is useful. Use it. Maybe get the https-everywhere browser addon, that should be enough.

>>56763946
You essentially will want to put everything on your SSD and tell your browser and torrent client to send downloads to wherever you mount your HDD later on. As though you unplugged the HDD during installation.

The alternative is to put /home on the HDD which will likely lead to a performance drop.

>>56762206
Man, Stallman's got moves.

>>56763946
What the other anon said is correct. What you want is your roo (denoted as just /) to be on the ssd.

You'll also want a swapspace. I recommend putting it on your HDD because 1) ssd's aren't swimming in space and 2) can be needless writes.

2) isn't a big deal if you aren't really concerned with the SSD failure boogeyman (because it is just that) but it won't hurt.

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Daily reminder that women matter.
http://archwomen.org/

>>56764086
No, they don't.

>Want to read Linus book Just For Fun
>It costs money

What did he mean by this?

>>56762691

Anyone?

>>56764141

Kill yourself, sexist retard

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So, I finally finished installing and making Manjaro not shit the bed.

Honestly, I have to say I'm impressed coming from arch. It's not doing "anything ground breaking" in terms of its initial presentation, but everything I usually install (with some caveats that I need to make time to remove) is there. It looks good out of box, and has pretty damn fine font-rendering.

The KDE theme it comes with is really fucking comfy, too. And from what I understand, the memelord who can't into SSL is no longer there. Seems like a pretty solid option for those who want the benefits of arch and the AUR, but want a little more safety.

I don't know if I'll necessarily stay with it (I don't like having packages on my system I didn't put there, it's too easy to lose track of shit), but I think it's a pretty cool deal if you've installed arch before and want something similar but different at the same time.

>>56764219
No need, I'm a superior man.

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How do I fix this shit?

>>56764237
Get a not-Europoor monitor.

>>56762691
I have no fucking clue, but what happens if you try and install one of those "not found" packages from pacman and see if it still throws you the error for that particular one.

Just a shot in the dark, because if it removes that, then it means the pkgbuild is borked or something. Or it might be yaourt.

You could try downloading the stuff yourself and building outside of yaourt too.

Those are my only ideas.

>>56764228
>and has pretty damn fine font-rendering.
pic not related?

>>56764309
Well for an out of box arch distro, it's more than enough.

I mean have you used antergos, or even worse - debian? Holy hell, the first thing on my agenda after I installed the shitty broadcom drivers was font rendering. I know Debian devs have their feet in freedoms, but you gotta be kidding me with some of that.

I'll tweak it later with my usual settings.

Sorry if this is a noob question, but does Linux (Ubuntu in my case) benefit from a CPU that is hyperthreading-capable vs. one that isn't? What about Linux with full-disk encryption, would that benefit? I'm trying to decide between an i5 and i7 for my next build and have trouble finding answers.

i'm having issues with mousewheel-scrolling on manjaro.
scrolling down is acknowledged as scrolling up every few seconds for a moment, and vise versa.
annoying as hell.
no problems on windows though, any ideas on how to fix it/what the cause is?

If I install linux to my spare HDD and set it as the default will I be able to select windows in grub or will I have to select the correct drive in the bios.

>>56764409
grub should be able to identify OS's across all disks i think. just install grub to the default boot hdd

>>56764409
yes.

When grub generates, it runs "os-prober" to look for other systems on your PC (including windows 7,8, (((9))) and 10.

Word of the wise however - you want to disable fast boot in windows. (google it.) Windows puts your drive in a state of hybrid sleep, so nothing can access that partition. If you're installing Linux to that drive, then I don't think it will be able to resize it either.

>>56764409
Any particular reason you want grub and not select the boot drive instead?

>>56764086
Is this some kind of shitposting or this is real

>>56764472
The group looks real by the mailing list archives. But poster is only using it to get a rise out of folks.

i installed firefox and it was literally so buggy i couldn't operate in it what could be cause?

>>56764581
You?

I really have no idea how tar works

I've been using "tar -xvf" to untar every tarball for the last 8 years and I still have no idea what other commands there are, how it works, or even how to make a tarball

>>56764621
Same with about every Linux user who's started in the last 15 years I'd imagine

Not even specifically -xvf because you don't have to do that particular command at times, but most people just use the command the same way they first see their professor do it or read it in a tutorial

https://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_chapter/tar_2.html

Is it good for privacy to have two entirely separate operating system installations, one for anonymous personal stuff and another for work stuff and anything else that needs real information?

>>56764621
I swear there was a time when tar did not automatically recognize the compression type and you had to look at the man page every time because you'd forget the argument for b2z or gz

>>56764364
what linux?
what will you do on that linux?
it can indeed use virtual cores.
Wether you actually need them depends on what you do.
If you're going to use gentoo, then I'd suggest an i7, because more cores(no matter wether virtual or physical) means less compile time.
If you're only going to use it for programming and browsing and you're not going to use a source based distro, then even an i3 is fine.

>>56764178
Linus doesn't give a shit about freedom.

Whats a good looking distro? Preffering debian or ubuntu based

I just got a thinkpad with a 500GB HDD.
How do I partition it?
Do I take ~20GiB for / and the rest for /home?
Do I need more more partitions (a couple of media partitions, so that if one becomes corrupt, I still have the others)?

>>56764228
Manjaro is beautiful. Try the bspwm edition.

About the font rendering: That's not really distro related. A distro may add their personal font config, but the user is always free to change them just like everything else.

>>56764704

No.

>>56764948
it may be distro dependant, but i'd recommend:
512MiB - /boot
2000MiB - swap
20-40GiB - /
* - /home
don't bother with seperate 'media partitions', just don't forcefully shutdown or do anything dumb with your computer

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>>56763067
>>56763135
>>56763946
>>56764364
>>56764409
>>56764467
>>56764664
>>56764886

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>56762206
any remember how stallman's girlfriend was some guy's wife? does rms only support non-proprietary relationships?

>>56765013

Why do you recommend a boot partition for someone who isn't using UEFI?
Why do you recommend a swap partition with the specific size of 2GB?
Why do you recommend a separate partition for root and home?

>>56764948

Why do you think you need more than 1 partition?

>>56765013
It's a w520 with 8 GiB ram. I don't think I need swap.
Why should I make a separate partition for /boot?

>>56765037
seperate partitions for / and /home are good to use. it allows for encryption of /home without messing with full root encryption & setting bootloaders etc to work with it, and is good for safety & security. having a seperate boot partition is just good practice really, for security can be set to noauto mount too. i like using a 2GiB swap partition because it's a nice amount. i've never seen myself needing more, but any less wouldn't really do me fine

>>56765037
>Why do you think you need more than 1 partition?
If I split my animus across multiple partitions and if one becomes corrupt somehow, I still have more animus left on the other partitions.

I hate fontconfig. I get that it's configurable, but isn't there a way for it to just look consistent and nice without me having to go through a bunch of tedious shit?

How can I get a good fontconfig without making it myself?

>>56765096
make backups on other drives.

>>56765121
Install some fonts

~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf

<?xml version='1.0'?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'>
<fontconfig>
    <match target="font">
        <edit mode="assign" name="antialias">
            <bool>true</bool>
        </edit>
        <edit mode="assign" name="embeddedbitmap">
            <bool>false</bool>
        </edit>
        <edit mode="assign" name="hinting">
            <bool>true</bool>
        </edit>
        <edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle">
            <const>hintslight</const>
        </edit>
        <edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter">
            <const>lcddefault</const>
        </edit>
        <edit mode="assign" name="rgba">
            <const>rgb</const>
        </edit>
    </match>
</fontconfig>

>>56765121
I've never had to touch that aside from reloading the database when I manually a font. Am I missing out on something?

>>56765064

Where did he specify he was going to encrypt his data?
Why is a separate boot partition good practice?

>>56765096

How often did your partitions get "corrupted"? I've never heard of someone losing data because a specific partition got corrupted.

>>56764886
It's just plain Ubuntu GNOME, with full-disk encryption selected during install. It would be used from everything to browsing, gaming, maybe light media editing, etc. The reason I'm asking is that I noticed that on my current machine (old Core2Duo, also fully encrypted Ubuntu GNOME) the CPU is being taxed heavily, probably because everything constantly needs to be encrypted and decrypted on the fly, so I thought a more powerful CPU with more physical and virtual cores might be helpful, but I couldn't find anything about the performance impact of additional cores.

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>want to try dual boot windows/debian
>get pic related error
>google how to fix
>need to launch terminal before boot
>keyboard doesnt turn on fast enough
>tfw too stupid for linux

I'm using Xubuntu and I'm making launchers for programs I commonly use. I just create a launcher, and add the program. However now I want to create a launcher to open my home file folder. Does anyone know how I can do that? I don't want to use the 'places' launcher as I want it to be a single click.

>>56765510
<filemanager> /home/<user>

>>56765260
It happened once, I deleted some files on an ntfs partition, after that I saw the same files in the directory of some anime (the anime was gone) and when I tried to delete that directory, rm command gave me errors like it wasn't there or something. I couldn't delete it no matter what I tried on linux nor on windows.
It's weird, but something like that did happen.

Also, recently, an ntfs partition on my external hard drive got fucked when I download anime on it while watching at the same time via crappy underpowered usb 2.0. Thank god I was able to fix that with chkdsk on windoz.

>>56765260
Although maybe it's just the ntfs format that sucks.

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Would you mind sharing some useful rxvt-unicode extensions?

>>56765527

Thank you!

>>56765589
The only one I use is tabbedex

Why do GNU/Linux users bully *BSD users?

Is there anything like overchan for gnu/linux? A browser just multiple imageboards.

>>56765652
Probably only on /g/ where it's a shitfest of OS vs OS and Distro vs Distro

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>>56764742
yea, there was (damn, that long ago already?)

do note this only applied to GNU tar, other tar implemenatations may differ

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Reposting my problem for attention

>Apply Arc-Dark
>Pic related happens no matter what Firefox theme is used
>Other Arc versions work fine
>YouTube search bar text is also fucked, but some CSS fixed that
>Only way I've found to fix pic related with CSS also changes text color of every other instance of a button with text

On Xubuntu btw

I'm using openbox with Debian and am trying to change the keyboard layout. I've tried a few methods, but haven't been able to get any of them to work.
Any ideas?

>>56762206
what the fuck

HALP

So I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server for a light installation (I plan on running i3). I'm having issues getting the installation to detect my RAID 0.

My machine has 3 SSDs, one for storage and 2 in RAID 0 I have configured in the bios. I created a partition on the RAID 0 after loading the Intel Rapid Storage drivers. Windows promptly created 4 partitions. I left the other half of the RAID 0 alone. Im going through the Ubuntu Server installation and it just doesn't detect any of the existing partitions, only the SSD intended for storage.

Im reading stuff about mdadm and modprobe but not exactly sure which way to go.

Any help would be appreciated.

>>56765861

Using one method worked for me.

>>56765844
It's the eternal problem with dark themes.

>>56764237
kde looks pretty gud

>>56764922
the difference between them is literally 5 minutes of downloading and applying a theme and icons.

>>56765885
your software raid drivers are not enabled in your kernel/firmware is not installed

>>56765885
>doesn't detect any of the existing partition
Why is that necessary?

Don't you have a full text mode install?

Link below might help on that case
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Software_RAID_and_LVM

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>>56765844
>>56765914
k, never mind, made up some bullshit with CSS that works now

Moving on, is there any way to change Arc-Dark so that the active window is dark instead of blue on the panel without changing the highlight color? I can change it with Theme Configuration, but it also changes the color of highlighted folders and files.

Very nitpicky, I know

>>56765941
>>56765948

Ok, thanks guys, I'll take a look at the link and I'll look into configuring software raid drivers. Question is, if it's configured in the bios, do I still need software raid? In the installer, there's an option when partitioning to configure software raid, it then gives me the option to Create MD device, Delete MD device, and Finish

I click RAID 0, but in the active devices list, all I see is just /dev/sda free #1 with 500GB, which is my storage ssd

does anyone know if openzfs supports or plans to support adding/removing disks from vdevs? last time i used zfs this wasn't the case, but that was several years ago

I'm trying to set the shorcut for cycle windows (reverse) in xfwm4-settings, but when I press shift+alt it sets the shortcut to "ISO Next Group". xev says shift+alt+tab is ISO_Left_Tab.
It's not a big deal but I'm curious as to what's going on. Any ideas?

>>56766079
Im not sure what you are unsure about.

>>56766099
What is an ISO group, what's the ISO next group, what's an ISO left tab, and why is alt+shift ISO Next Group instead of alt+shift?

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I already miss the busty girls in the OP.

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>>56766135
Because that is how you have configured your keycodes.

>what is
If only there was a way to index the world wide web, and have the ability to query said index to find answers to your query

>>56766178
youre not alone anon

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>>56766267
I think you're both forever alone

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I used the dd command to create a debian bootable usb drive and now however I format the drive, the default label of each partition is debian.. (whatever label it got when I used dd). I have changed the partition table to gpt and the new partitions still had the same label. I changed it back to mbr and it's the same. I can't even change the label of extended partitions.
It doesn't really bother me, I'm just curious as to why this is happening.

>>56766186
>friendly question
>sents him to the botnet
dumb moe poster

>>56766329
We're in good company then.

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>>56766364

>>56766364
>implying 4chan isn't botnet

>>56766390
>implying 4chan is botnet

>>56766364
Are you questioning the integrity of Coogle?

what bit torrent client should i be using?

>>56766454
proprietary, google captcha

>>56766461
prism

>>56766517
The one I'm using.

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>put gentoo on USB
>boot into it
>type "install gentoo"
>nothing happens
am I missing key parts of this meme, I don't get it.

>>56766517
the one >>56766535 is using

>>56766535
AHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO FUNNY XD

>>56766517
the one >>56766561 recommends

>>56766539
Try

sudo install gentoo

>>56766567
it's the only true answer, what/which/best questions just lead to multiple different answers and people calling each other retard and faggot

the best program is the program that fits your personal needs best

>>56766517
Human beans use transmission.

>>56766655
Liar.

>>56766521
It's barely proprietary, licensed under a BSD license, and it isn't compromising your security. Google is obviously collecting data, but how does the data coming from reCAPTCHA affect you negatively at all?

Also (at least with 4chan x) you can use it without javascript.

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>>56766614
You are so special don't let anyone tell you they are better than you they are just filled with hate and deserve your pity.

>>56766765
You're still sending your IP, which get's connected with your search results, other google stuff and three letter agencies.

>>56766765
Show my 4chan imageboard source code publicly avalible for download and disection
https://www.4chan.org/faq#software

>you cant.

>>56766795
>t. special person who needs to use a tripcode on an anonymous imageboard
1/10, made me reply

>>56766907
>t.
What the fuck is this meme?

>>56766926
Brits think mispronouncing english words and using french abbreviations makes them sound smarter.

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>>56766186
>Because that is how you have configured your keycodes.
Something's configured them, but I can't say it's something I've intentionally done.
>ISO Group is a supply chain partner for the defense and aerospace industry whose sole purpose is working with our clients to maintain and sustain critical platforms and equipment.
I found the current one, but what's the next one?

Anyway, I managed to fix it by replacing mentions of ISO_Next_Group with keys that seemed appropriate in my xkb keymap. I wish you told me about ISO groups and sent me to google to solve the problem and not the other way around jtp

>>56766926
t.
Short of tevierseh or something of that sort. It's Finnish for: "Regards."

Often used on 4chan and other boards as a way of mocking other users.
OP: /int/ is as good now as it was back in its early days.
Responder: t.Australian

>>56766957
Like
>going down t'shop lad?
>>56766966
wtf
I've only seen one person (by the looks of it) using it on /g/. Talk about forced.

>>56766957
retard
>>56766966
this

newfags everywhere

>>56767031
>tevierseh
>this
No, not this.

>>56767031
Whats the colour of your honour?
t. Cucked by the British.

Do the benefits of using Linux over Win or Mac mainly accrue to techies or would the less tech savvy also find certain advantages to using it?

>>56767074
A less tech savvy person will still benefit from it because :
>package manager
>more secure
>no viruses
>light & faster
>easier to customize
>privacy
>save 130€ since they won't buy a windows licence
you can probably find more advantages, but those should be the main one.

>>56767247
no viruses?

are you sure i feel like the linux system is really cluttered anyone who know what they were doing could easily hack it i believe.

>>56767332
well, linux can get viruses technically, but a normal user probably won't, because there are less viruses that targets this OS and if you want to install something on the system you'll do it via the package manager, so you will never download binaries directly from the web.


Maybe I don't know enough on the subject some some anon can answer you better, but whenever I read something about a malware targetting linux, it comes from a shitty sysadmin using a weak password for ssh, or not having his system up to date or doing something stupid with some specific software

>>56767074
You can use it like you would use any computer. I've seen complete tech retards use it for simple games and web browsing.

>>56767332
>i believe.

>>56767396
keeping your user password and root password different is a good first step

>>56762206
Watching this made me blush as if he was my dad and embarrassed me in front of the whole school.

>>56767396
ya but most web servers are linux based and many are exploited?

>>56767247
Dope. thnx.

>>56766364
>>56766390
>>56766454
>>56766521
>>56766765
>>56766806
I browse 4chan without javascript and only enable it to post, then turn it back off. I'm not worried. My browser is so secure I don't even get (You)s anymore.

Do you use an application dock? Which one?

>>56767556
can you explain how viruses affect systems through web browsers? is it still applicable on linux systems?

linux can't get viruses is a meme the logic has always been hackers target windows as everyone uses windows != linux can't get viruses.

>>56767624
You could potentially download a binary package that contains a trojans and/or malware written especially for linux. I imagine building this package on you system could release the virus.

Of course there are viruses written for linux, just a lot less than windows because the attack surface is much smaller.

How can I get mpd's playing album artwork to show on the desktop? I thought there would be a widget in kde plasma to do this but it seems not.

Can anyone give me a script that greps the only "192.168.**" part from the following output?

; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> tertiary
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10051
;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;tertiary.                      IN      A

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
tertiary.               1474796065 IN   A       192.168.0.5

;; Query time: 44 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.1.1#53(127.0.1.1)
;; WHEN: Sun Sep 25 09:34:24 AEST 2016
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 53

>>56767938
just use dig +short

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>>56767938
> Can anyone give me a script that greps the only "192.168.**" part from the following output?

>>56767748
try mpDris2 and mutagen

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Is this an okay way to run firefox nightly.

>extract .tar.bz2
>mkdir ~/Nightly
>moved the extracted firefox folder to ~/Nightly
>made an .sh with "$~/Nightly/firefox/nightly -no-remote -profile ~/Nightly/firefox/profile"
>Made a launcher with "sh nightly.sh" with the working directory of ~/Nightly

>>56768484
>nightly
It's ok to run daily

>>56768484
Why not just use a symlink?
And why not just use ff dev from your repo?

>>56769005
>Why not just use a symlink?
I could use a symlink. I did a launcher because it's right in the xfce panel.

>And why not just use ff dev from your repo?
Think I'll just do that, It updates less and I don't go into nightly all that much anyways.

I want to give Manjaro Xfce a small partition to dual-boot next to Win10 install.
I'm thinking 10GB/20GB or so.

I'd like ideas or recommendations for what sizes to use for a 10GB Manjaro install and also a 20GB install. What sizes should I use for the partitions? Though, I'm only going to stick picking only of these two partitions for my Manjaro install, 10GB or 20GB

I don't need much..

Gimp
Chrome/Chromium
KeePassX
JDownloader 2
Steam
Discord
Atom
qbittorrent
mpv

cli

fish
megatools
scrot
screenfetch

That's pretty much it for now that I can think of for now.

help me out here

>>56769328
I think a desktop entry would be enough to display it in xfces panel.

I... I-I can't watch the whole thing. My sides are imploding.

Why isn't my laptop booting from usb? It is an arch iso, put onto the usb using dd. When I tell the laptop to boot the usb, it just ignores it and boots into windows.

>>56769346
10gb can be enough but sometimes it can run a bit low. 12-15gb would be safer.
Or put it in a vm, install everything and see how much it takes.

>>56769346
>steam
If you are gonna install games and i386 stuff it will be a bit small.
>fish, chrome, discord, jdownloader2, atom
if you love needless bloat that much you will have problems on 20gb in the long run.
Also i bet you have 50gb spare at least so just use that.
There are quite a few things wrong with your post but you are too new to be roasted. I suggest doing a bit of research on distros, portability and free software.
>>56769451
same

>>56769346
If you understand the boot process to a decent degree, I've always installed Linux a loop mounted image, stored on the windows partition.

Pros:
-Works on top an NTFS partition, so you don't need to play around with partitions if that's an issue
-easily expandable
-easy backups
-super flexible

Cons:
-could be a pain with GUI installers, I'm thinking fedora specifically. Shouldn't be any issue with arch-base
-obviously requires modifying grub/ bootloader entries by hand.

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So, guys, arch linux has pissed me off, and I am looking for light weight linux OS for my acer netbook. I was installing crunchbang, until I noticed its been discontinued. Any other suggestions?

>inb4 install gentoo.

>>56769879
bunsenlabs is the community follow up of crunchbang

>>56766957
Are you still in this thread?

>>56769894
This isn't a chatroom. Fuck kindly off.

>>56769894
>requesting more tripfaggotry

>>56769879
Crunchbang/bunsenlabs is not really.much more than installing debian with openbox and tint2.
Debian sid is nice and minimal.

>>56769952
>t. /g/ meme senior

>>56769968
>implying a few scripts and an additional tiny repo are worth a fork

>>56769930
sure looks like one to me.

>>56769993
You guys just don't enjoy fun right?

>features just werks
>too bloated

>lightweight just werks
>not worth a fork

It's just like you just want something that doesn't just werk. Werking things are uncool, right?

>>56769879
>>inb4 install gentoo
>Implying that isn't what you should do.

>>56770056
>It's just like you just want something that doesn't just werk. Werking things are uncool, right?
that's why archfags hate manjaro so much ;_;

>>56770056
i think they could have just called it a DE and made it all a metapackage.
I might be a bit biased because i usually do a minimal install and install a minimal WM with dmenu and go from there.

Just installed Fedora after using Antergos for a year.

Redpill me on it.

Any must do's after initial install?

>>56770072
yup, how dare an operating system do what I want?
I want an OS that I have to wrestle into submission, and then remind it of its place every few days.

Is there a file manager that will show large thumbnails when uploading an image?

How do I write to a serial port using a C program? Running Archlinux and currently using fopen and fprintf to write to the serial port (/dev/ttyUSB0).
It works, thing is it only works if I run minicom simultaneously. Once that is done the program works from then on. Anyone know what minicom is doing? Or should I just pick up a book on linux and go to the serial port chapter?

>>56770446
perhaps it's configuring the serial port (baud rate, stop bits, etc)

>>56770267
like any fucking distro, install the programs you use and enjoy.

>>56770478
Thanks for the reply. Now for some reading...

>>56770391
No, because it is not a file manager that you open when you upload something.
But to answer your indirect question, you can install the supreme kde plasma 5.

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>>56770391
Previous anon in last thread said the basicbitch file manager for firefox is embedded. so no thumbnails.

>>56770654
Any other option than KDE?
I like my xfce.
inb4 >discontinued >abandoned >etc

>>56770681
mate is good

Do I need swap with 8GB ram?
I don't use hibernation.

>>56770681
>Any other option than KDE?
You can patch some stuff but I don't know if that works now with gtk3. If you run a *buntu or debian you can install the plasmazilla ppa. Might be something in aur or something for arch fags.

>>56770690
Shame you're not following the conversation.

>>56770703
ah
try nemo

i am pulling the trigger tonight, friends
thank you for all the help, i'm excited to be one of you soon

>>56770726
Getting there anon, read a bit more...

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>>56770695
>plasmazilla ppa
I'll take a look, thanks.

>>56770740
vivaldi

>>56770764
You're a fucking retard, you know that?
>I have no idea what I'm on about but I'm gonna make some random suggestions anyway even though my answer have no relation to the question

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>>56770654
how about file manager thumbnails for chrome shitposting?

>>56770928
Read the post you're referring to again

Is it possible to ignore the 'output' of killall?

...
        for ((x=1; x<=$numb; x++));
        do
                nohup ~/derp/derp.pl $name > /dev/null 2>&1 &
        done
        sleep 25s
        killall derp.pl 
...

I get x lines of this:

./all.sh: line 8: 25125 Terminated              nohup ~/derp/derp.pl $name > /dev/null 2>&1

WACKY WHEELS is best 'nix game. Even better than tuxracer.

>>56770391
KDialog, it's not a file manager, it's a file picker

sicne i am trying to get into the cyber security business, people have told me that i should know linux command line as good as i can. Any recs on good distros for taht purpose. how good is crunchybag?

>>56770965
Also, is there some way to "skip" the sleep before the time by pressing a button or something?
A lot of the time it finishes early but takes the entire time to go to the next one..

>>56771083
Any distro

I'm liking Budgie Desktop, is Solus OS any good?

>Processor manufacturers release stability and security updates to the processor microcode. While microcode can be updated through the BIOS, the Linux kernel is also able to apply these updates during boot. These updates provide bug fixes that can be critical to the stability of your system. Without these updates, you may experience spurious crashes or unexpected system halts that can be difficult to track down.

>Users of CPUs belonging to the Intel Haswell and Broadwell processor families in particular must install these microcode updates to ensure system stability. But all Intel users should install the updates as a matter of course.

t. Arch wiki

Should I do it?

>>56762206
J. Christ is Stallman a fucking dork. You know he doesn't get any pussy.

Is there anything that I can do to make my Debian laptop run cooler?

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>>56770731
i feel so happy right now

>>56771948
I hope you enjoy it

>>56771851
no. it installs backdoors. look up intel ME

>>56772006
thank you, i'm looking forward to learning the ropes

>>56772038
It's really not that hard. The hardest part for me, moving from windows, was the different folder layouts.

>>56771947
undervolt

>I install arch following the guide on the wiki.
>no network when I reboot

>I use the architect installer
>network seems fine

Why?

>>56770391
Yes, any if you use your fm instead of aa stupid file picker, drag&drop just werks.

>>56771947
Configure power saving in tlp/laptop mode tools, see if you need/have nonfree shit that could be the issue, update your kernel if it is new hardware...

>>56771948
I just got down installing debian, took forever since it was doing full HDD encryption.

>>56771083
you might be interested by this website. http://tldp.org/guides.html

and about the distribution it doesn't really matter

>people that post proud blog-posts when they install something

https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/54dr4s/victory/

>>56770965

Yes. "killall --help" or search for stdout redirection to /dev/null (hint: you already did that in your script).

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>>56772817
>all the morning for UEFI
>all the afternoon to get the wifi
>after spending so many times he experience glitches and crashes.

Somehow I feel sorry for him...

>>56772017

Yes, because they totally couldn't have "installed a backdoor" already on the CPU. When you buy a CPU it comes with no microcode, totally, you have to first install it later on, together with a "backdoor". Totally.

>>56772274

Because you didn't follow the guide properly.

>>56772274
You probably didn't 'systemctl start dhcpcd' or whatever.

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>Running a completely Stable repository setup
>There is just "one" program package that I really want that is only available to me in Unstable
>It's impossible to get that one package without adding Unstable to my apt sources.list and doing so will completely fuck up my entire setup next time I apt-get update that will update everything on my computer to unstable version.

What do I do? It should not be this way.

>>56773000

Package it yourself. With some luck it might not need newer versions of dependencies than already installed (or available in your repository).

>>56773000
I had the same problem with Haxe. Their installation guide provide a way to install it on stable
http://haxe.org/download/linux
see https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences

tl;dr : you enable unstable for the packages you want and the other packages of your system will keep using the stable release.

>>56773000
>he fell for the "stable" meme

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Dancing is so fucking autistic

I'm compiling genkernel on Gentoo and I am getting "CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set", but in unchecked 64bit in menuconfig. Any ideas?

Is there any way to temporarily switch linux to use a non-persistent mode, just like when you use a live disk/usb?

>>56774416
>temporarily
alt-sysrq-u will unmount your files and remount them in read only mode until you poweroff/reboot. It'' part of the SUB sysrq key sequence after a graphics crash: sync-unmount-boot.

>>56773000
You can just add the source repo of unstable and compile and package that program.

Hey guys I need some help with cron. I opened crontab with sudo (sudo crontab -e) and placed this in there

*/3 * * * * rfkill block bluetooth
*/3 * * * * rfkill block wwan

This is supposed to run those two things every 3 minutes, but it's not working. What am I missing here?

Why do so many of you prefer tiling wms like i3 over "normal" wms?

>>56774722
easier to arrange windows the way I want (side by side, not overlapping etc.) Also it's very nice that if you have two windows side by side you can make one smaller and the other bigger in one action, with a regular wm this will always be two actions.

>>56771948
I'm on the same boat, got it for my uni asus netbook.
The thing was a bitch to setup.

>>56774722
What's "normal" ?

>>56774703
fixed it by using the full path to rfkill

>>56773000
You can try using Gentoo. Its package management system is godlike.

>>56774416

Use one of those filesystems which provides a snapshot feature. Create one after you install everything and then just revert to it after every use.

>>56774703

Why are you blocking them every 3 minutes?

>>56774722

Because they have huge, high-resolution screens and it's convenient to have more than 1 window on screen at a time.

>>56774846

How is Gentoo and its package management relevant at all to his problem?

>>56774964
>>56774416

>temporarily
Never mind, I didn't see that.

>>56770965
& puts shit into the background, which means in human language: don't annoy me, but annoy me when it revieves signals

to avoid that detach the background job from the shell completly:

~/derp/derp.pl $name > /dev/null 2>&1 & disown

no need for nohup

also quote your variables

>>56774830
>>56774703
cronjobs have no environment

>>56762206
it looks like stallman is doing aquarobics but not in a pool

>>56774981
>Why are you blocking them every 3 minutes?
Just because I want them to be always off basically. It might sound retarded but there are multiple things that will turn them on and I don't feel like investigating each of them.

>>56775181
Hm makes sense. I still don't really use/know about environments even though I probably should, I see people use them for python packages and say stuff like "so you won't pollute your environments"

>>56772817
>>56772870
don't worry, I shat on him in the comments

>>56773420
I don't think he gives a fuck

>>56774722
because of multitasking convenience.

do we have a discord channel?

>>56775196

What turns them on?
Either way, it's a really stupid "solution" when things like hardware switches exist or the ability to disable the device. I don't know what can enable it if you blacklist the kernel module.

>>56775219

Thank you. Please shit on this >>56764228 guy too.

I'm trying to compile the dankest GBA emulator but I get compile errors.
https://github.com/mgba-emu/mgba/
http://pastebin.com/hPcYhbCF
Can anyone help me understand where the bullshit comes from? Looks like it comes from the zip sources but I did nothing with them.

>>56775418

Tiling window managers enable you to input in multiple windows at once with the same input device?

>>56775641

Did you install all of the dependencies?

Anyone here use powerline?

>>56775641
Looks like a bug in that minizip thing.
Why not use vbam?

>>56775680
On the git page it says there is no hard dependency.

>>56775699
I'll do it if there's no other way, but I'd prefer a non-bloated emulator.

>>56775768
How is vbam bloated?

which linux do you recommend?

>>56775847
Fedora.

Just switched after being on arch for a year. Really comfy and user friendly. Everything literally just works.

what's the best email client for linux that also supports google calendar

bonus if it runs on windows too for my desktop

>>56775909
gmail

Is there a way to print MS word documents ?

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>>56775999

>>56775999
openoffice can do that im pretty sure

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>>56776051
I'm starting to hate linux more and more every fucking day

>>56775999
Yeah, install office in wine. I'm not kidding, it works a treat.

>>56775847

4.7

>>56775999
Just open with libreoffice and print?

>Have debian server
>Disabled root login
>Created user "admin" with sudo permissions
>Created folder /home/admin/app to use as default apache folder
>Set path in apache conf
So now i get permission error

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.

what do i do

You use public wifi?! Are you fucking nutz?! Of course it's a hotbed for hackers. It doesn't matter what security you install -- you'll be pawned. Probably already are. Fucking wifi is hacking paradise. Disable that shit.

>>56776179
Doesn't apache use the www user?

>>56776200
something like that, i think it is www-data

>>56776179

<Directory "/home/admin/app">
    # ... your shit
    Require all granted
</Directory>

Are there any cons of dualbooting winband linux ?

>>56776226
where do you add that?
in

000-default.conf

>>56775430
>discord
Nonfree pig disgusting
There is an irc channel. We could make a mumble server but it would probably just as empty.

>>56776226
oh, i just saw that i edited:
000-default.conf
instead of:
apache2.conf
everything is working now

>>56776264
Wherever you have your VirtualHost configuration.

>>56775649
Why use multiple monitors if you have workspaces on one good monitor? But yes, you can use one HID for multiple monitors on several window managers.

>>56775847
Linux-libre

>>56767396
It's all open source stuff. Viruses thrive on being able to hide. Not much malware out there targeting Linux because a: not many Linux users to fuck with, and b: many Linux users actually write and read code and will find the virus and delete it pretty damn quick then post a warning and fix on Linux boards. It's damn well the safest OS (GNU with Linux kernel) to have unless -- you don't read code, and you don't follow the community.

any good youtube linux channel?

How do i install this?
https://tracker.debian.org/news/582499

>>56776236
Yeah bloated hard drive and you still have windows

>>56776384
With stretch or sid repos you can just apt install it
https://packages.debian.org/sid/utils/megatools

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>>56776459

>>56776504
Well it exists: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/megatools

Did you apt-get update first?

>>56765020

Forgot to take your autism pills today?

>>56776330
>many Linux users actually write and read code
Yeah, no, they don't.

>you don't read code, and you don't follow the community.
That's exactly what most users do. They trust their distro maintainers to do that work for them.

>>56776611
linux users are usually attention whores, they like when people ask them about os.

Few months ago i was at some lecture about ventura capiltal founds and there was some faggot with laptop. He had ubuntu and set loop on apt-get update so people would think that he is some hacker. Green letters over screen, matrix madafaka

>>56776577
That's a copypasta, lurk for two more years before posting again.

>>56776662
Linux users are incredibly common and you can find them like anywhere. What's your point?

>>56776773
Maybe in your country, not in mine.
Most of them are just posers

>>56776810
You just don't know what Linux users are

How is it 2016 but I can't yet install Debian cleanly and configure all my other drives to auto mount through the installation GUI?

Also another question, I used SMXI to install a new kernel but it's a mess because I'm using debian stable and the headers aren't yet available for it, I'm currently just booting into my older kernel via GRUB but is there any way to make the older kernel be the first choice?

How do I switch from Qt 4 to Qt 5 on Gentoo? Should I keep wpa_supplicant from doing it (I can't connect through Ethernet so I don't want to fuck this package up)?

>>56776888
Why don't you have a CLI version?

>>56776888
You can put 'qt5 -qt4' in your make.conf, or just qt5 or qt5 and qt4, depends on what you have and how much conflict it will cause. You could put qt5 in there and enabled qt4 for certain packages that have to be built with qt4.

>>56762206
I'm looking for a DE/WM or Theme that would give me a retro look (preferably a 90s - early 2000s look), which one shall I use, except GNUStep/WindowMaker?

>>56776888
You can change the flag for that package regardless of what you set globally. Why would it fuck it up anyway? If it fucks up just change the flag back and rebuilt it.

Any megatools user?
How can i dwl everything from folder?
megasync is not working
megaget :

ERROR: Download failed for '/Root/foldername/': API call 'g' failed: Server returned error ENOENT

>>56777078
>

/Root/foldername/

>>56777123
?

>>56775847
Debian/Fedora/OpenSUSE if you're a normal person that wants your OS to be easy to install, use, and maintain.

Gentoo if you like to learn about your system and have pretty find-grained control over everything. It's more time consuming to install, but most Gentoo users will tell you that it's worth the time/effort and you really only have to go through it once.

>>56777138
It's /root/ not /Root/. Linux is case-sensitive.

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>>56777157
that is how it is called on Mega. Root, not root

>>56777199
I thought it was your own file system, fair enough. Never used mega.

How to speed up compile thime on /g/entoo?

>>56777226
Get a better processor. tmpfs. ccache.

>>56777226
Use minimal useflags.

How can i do:
list all files from folder, save output in file lile:
something filename;
something filename2;
etc
?

I know i can ls -1 > file but how can i add word in line start and end

>>56777226
Did you set the proper jobs value in your make.conf file for your CPU?

The general rule of thumb is to use the number of cores your CPU has plus 1. So in my case I'm using an i7 which has 8 cores, my jobs value is set to 9.
>MAKEOPTS="-j9"

Can someone explain why perfect (no dependency hell), and even universal, Linux package management is such a difficult issue?

Why is Ubuntu's new "snap" package manager resorting to Windows style redundant libraries?


I don't get why it's so difficult. I mean, why not do something similar to "snaps" but instead just symlink to the libraries on our system, if the library doesn't exist, create it. Piece of cake.
and you can take care of knowing when a library is no longer needed by simply having some kind of "library registry" which just stores a list of all the packages using each library, when a library has no packages using it it can be removed.

What am I missing?

made a new one
>>56777855

>>56777804
The advantage of something like snap is that the developer of the program does not have to care about the distro it's going to be used on at all. So he can make a general Linux snap package and doesn't need a package for each and every distribution under the sun.

Just using system libraries is not an option due to different versions, and just replacing them is not an option either due to possibly breaking other packages.

>>56777913
Ok but my understanding is that libraries are actually stored on our systems with their own version numbers, so there shouldn't be any conflict.

Is this all just because developers make their programs call "library.so" instead of more specifically "library-2.5.so"?

Wouldn't all our dependency problems be solved if we just forced application developers to specify the version of the packages their calling?

>>56777968
Just stop.
Go read basic system management within linux.
You're embarrassing your self

>>56777968
So, you want to recompile everything under the sun in case a minor bug gets fixed in a library?

>>56777361
Ignore intel HT?

>>56778605
I think you're supposed to go with however many cores are listed by
>cat /proc/cpuinfo

I think hyperthreading does count, but just use whatever you see in cpuinfo.