/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>56671627
>inb4complaintsaboutfullOP

>Budget
Up to £300 or so

>Location

UK

>Source

PC. Has something like a 600ohm amp in the mobo.

>Preferred type of headphone

Circumaural, open or closed.

>Comfort level

Maximum comfort level needed, not audiophile enough to notice anything other than comfort.

>Past headphones

DT770 Pros

>modmic costs $50
fuck no. Ill buy an SF or BM from chinks instead

>>56671627
Shit OP, shit thread

>>56672207
If you don't care enough about sound quality you don't need 300 pesos headphones, paco.
Consider getting something comfy that's on the cheap side. I really like my AKG K550's because of the extremely soft leatherette earpads and huge earcups that allow for a nice snugly fit.

>inaftercomplaintaboutfullOP

>>56672248
>SF or BM from chinks
Got a link? It would be nice to see some more competition for the micmod other than DIYs or products that only work with a couple of headphones.

>>56672207
HD600/650. Let it stretch overnight over some books if the initial clamp force is too much.

>>56672287
Some antlion chink mic got popular on reddit not too long ago. I think it was even on Massdrop for like 30 bucks.

>>56672287
Theyre desktop mics.

Is there any reason besides aesthetics to go with HD 598 or 558s?

>>56672287
You could also get a DSLR clip on mic like the Boya for 20 USD

>>56672366
*over 558s

>budget
$150 with some wiggle room
>location
USA
>source
PC
>preferred type of headphone
full-sized overear
>open or closed
doesn't matter
>comfort level
I'd prefer having better sound quality over comfort.
>past headphones
Apple Earbuds and ATH M50x

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>>56672285
>leatherette

>>56672295
I'm gonna try these out. Probably the 650.

>his ears sweat when wearing headphones
How fucking fat do you have to be

>>56672433
AKG K612

>>56672433

Lots of options at that price point.

Audio Technica ATH-AD900X
Fostex T50RP MK3
Some AKG
Some Sennheiser

>Budget
$25
>Location
Russia
>Source
Laptop, smartphone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEMs, not earbuds
>Comfort level
Comfort over quality
>Preferred tonal balance
No fucking idea. I listen all kinds of shit.
>Past headphones
Philips SHE9000 (I was content with them, but they broke and I can't find replacement in my city)

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>just bought an used O2+ODAC combo for £96

>>56672843
What's good for akg

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Is MDR 7506 worth it for 95 USD?

>>56672928
K612, K702, K7XX, K553 pro

>>56672894
Where??

$150-200
USA
Desktop, smartphone, laptop
Full-size overear
Open or closed doesn't matter
I don't want these to be a pain to wear for an hour or two
Sennheiser HD 419, Logitech g430

I've been thinking about either the m50x or the HD 598s. Thoughts?

>>56673449
Oh also, forgot to add, nothing that requires a DAC or amp.

>>56672613
Has more to do with how much heat dissipates from your head. My BMI is 22 and I get heat build-up with certain headphones, I usually take them off before they actually get sweaty.

>recommended m50x
>decide to demo it at a shop
>demo it along with other headphones
>realize that the m50x sounds like a fucking walkie talkie playing through a tin can

Why is it so recommended

>>56673080
Oh yeah

>>56673654
I feel the same way about the dt770, everyone recommends it and I went to try it at a store and was pretty disappointed. Sounded so dull

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So I got the 990Zs a few day ago.

Coming from a open headphone background, i'm impressed . V shaped definitely lots of bass and highs and but not overdone. Mids are still very good and present like most AT cans. Very sensitive, can pick up my amplifiers noise floor (TEAC AI301DA), unlike my SPH9500s which i have been using a replacement for my old broken AD900s (SHP9500s are boring shiet in comparison and I never should have bothered with them.)

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I dont browse /g/ to much I am looking for a new Headset for gaming.

I was wondering if some kind anons could help me find some good choice hardware for sitting at a computer and using voice chat.

>Budget
$150 or under, but want quality headphones
>Location
usa
>Source
Pc with soundblaster soundcard and phone if 3.5mm
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible, needs to be over ear
>Preferred tonal balance
Around m50x, don't like the steep curves of beats or flat neutral balances
>Past headphones
Logitech h540 (not bad but not over ear tier)
Razer Kraken 7.1 (garbage tier)
Soundblaster Recon 3D Omega (nice but get hot and break at cups)

>>56671627
>Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
>Wireless is frowned upon.
>Headset requests are frowned upon.
Fucking dogshit OP.

>>56674128
That's the rule for all hpgs you dum

>>56674204
No, it isn't retard.

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Part One
>Budget
limited at about $92 american dollars (or $1800 mexican pesos, money exchange is a bitch)
>Location
Mexico City
LOCAL STORES:
BestBuy
Liverpool
El Palacio de Hierro
Sanborns
There's also a tecnology-specialized area in the city centre known as "plaza de la tecnología" with tons of stores, also, near that place there are professional audio stores
>Source
Mainly going to use them on my Moto X Play w/Poweramp & Win 10 Groove player (I'm a dirty peasnt I know, but just found out this board exists) with .flac, .m4a and .mp3
>Preferred type of headphone
I'm pretty much used to IEMs, I feel that they can deliver the most sound without letting much of it bleed. PLUS, they are way cheaper than buying noise cancellation-open ones
>Open or closed
If I were to buy full sized headphones, I would prefer that sound stayed with me, so I'm going with closed ones
>Comfort level
I have ridiculously sensitive ears: I used to have over-the-ear noise cancelating headphones (ie Beats Studio, I know, I'm a niggr) and the outer part of my ears hurted like hell after 30 mins of use, that's why my way-to-go has always been IEMs, but I would really like good audio quality
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't know if this helps but, my favourite genres are: Alternative/indie, rock (not heavy), pop and a bit of EDM

>>56674128
yeah nah get fucked cunt.

>>56673775
>good choice hardware for sitting at a computer and using voice chat.

Have a seat.

>>56672207
Sannhauser

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>>56674351
Part Two
>Past headphones
ZAGGsmartbuds (IEMs)
The coating protecting the cable was pretty cool, so was sound quality, plus they came with a bit of accesories on the tips department, only used the medium silicone ones tho - MAYOR DOWNSIDE: they got f'd up really fast (the kevlar-like inside coating got, dragged down? quick with the exterior plastic coating)
Skullcandy ink'd (IEMs)
Overall good sound and cheap price tag, (also loved the flat cable)
Monster Beats Studio (Around ear headphones)
The thing that drawed me to buy them was the noise cancelation and the so called "good sound quality". I liked them, but as I mentioned, they hurted my ears like hell
Skullcandy dime (IEMs)
Again, excelent sound quality vs price tag (at least in México), plus the design on the black version kicked ass, though it was printed on plastic and got off really quick
Turtle beach XLa (around ear headphones)
They were on sale ok? stop judgin. So, this ones are actually pretty comfortable, and the sound doesn't bleed that much.
Urbanears Medis (Earbuds?)
Those were an impulse buy because they were on sale, the design was pretty unusual for me, but they had something... STILL, they hurted my ears like hell too, and the sound bleed, so I had to bring them back to the store. The sound was pretty good tho
Urbanears Kransen (IEMs) - Now using them
I just LOVE this bad boys, from the design to the sound, I swear that I could hear new sounds on my songs with them. I think that not only they are funtional (they have a lego-like thing that snaps them together and a "cable holder" built in the upper part of the jack to secure the entire cable)

>>56674351
>>56674364
E10

>>56674336
indeed, it isn't retard at all.

>>56673654
>>56673741
You guys probably were used to very different sound signatures. That's why you should always test a headphone before buying anyway, there's no way of knowing for sure if something will please you sound wise.

Is there a close backed alternative to the hd598?

>>56671627
>Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
>Wireless is frowned upon.
>Headset requests are frowned upon.
What the fuck.

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>>56673775
>>56674128
>>56675220
>>56672272
kys

>Budget
$130
>Location
Poland
>Source
E-MU 0202
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort
Don't care
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Superlux HD660

>>56675220
New to /hpg/ or just trying to pick a fight?

>budget
50€ flexible budget(55$/42,81£)
>location
Germany, any online retailer
>source
PS4 Controller, N3DSXL, Samsung 32 inch HD ready headphone jack (extension cord), phone and ipad on occasion
>preferred type
full sized
>open or close
leaning towards closed but I'm flexible
>comfort level
Eh whatever as long as it doesn't hurt me. I think I'd like them to be light and secure
>preferred tonal balance
completely neutral, just give me the sound as it was intended to be heard/recorded
>past headphones
absolute trash, but not that I'd be able to tell
>little background/requirement/future usuage
been using cheap headphones from KIK(local budget market) and crappy in-ears. Never concerned myself with headphone quality, that's why I don't want to splurge.
I'm gonna be using these mainly for watching movies on my PS4, and gaming on PS4, 3DS and PS3(using TVs headphone jack).
I just want them to sound as neutral and accurate as possible(for the price).
This is just hearsay but I heard for gaming(not my main use but definitely important!) you want a good soundstage. Don't know if that's possible with my budget but maybe soundstage isn't all that important.

On a related note: How is the PS4 Gold headset for ~85€?

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>>56671627
>electrostat
>intense goldfish scooping

>Budget
$~70
>Location
USA
>Source
Note 4 with Poweramp
>Preferred type of headphone
In ears plz
>Comfort
Probably won't be wearing for more than 2 hours at a time, so not too picky on this
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Sennheiser cx 300 ii

>>56675236
>1992
>still relevant
thanks for showing how outdated your shitty opinion is.

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Do the new Stax lambda series sound different? Should I spend my NEET dollaryroos on one, and squirrel away my SR-307 for the bleak future of lawless oblivion?

>>56675423
I haven't auditioned the L500 but judging from the L300, they are just rehashed versions of the 207 and 507.

L700 just slightly breaks away from the typical Lambda sig and is like a little 009.

>>56675500
Have you heard the L300?

>>56675517
Nope. Only the L700 with the SRM-353X.
The 3100 system is a 2170 in a new enclosure.

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>>56671627
>wireless is frowned upon
>headsets are frowned upon
>asking for opinions is frowned upon

>>56675537
So, are you repeating what others have said? They are rehashes despite having an altered ear-xducer gap, and despite having been partially occluded with a vinyl cover?

>>56675595
>are you repeating what others have said?
For the L300 and L500, yep.

>>56673741
Did you listen to the right music?

>>56675584
>>wireless is frowned upon
For a reason.
>>headsets are frowned upon
For a reason.
>>asking for opinions is frowned upon
Only if you ask stupid shit.

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So I have had a pair of AKG K240s for a few years now and love them. Unforunately one of the hard plastic part that keeps the foam in broke off so I just have foam hanging out. Is there a way to order single parts or what should I do about this?

Also, besides looks how bad is this for sound? Its hard for me to tell since it could be a placebo type effect.

>budget
100 EUR
>location
Germany
>source
any and every thing. Phone, laptop, desktop, TV with extension cord, console controller, butthole, microwave
>preferred type
Something that covers the whole ear without putting any pressure on the ear cartilages.
>open or closed
Closed. I do not want background sounds but also not want noise cancelling as it will be expensive
>past headphones
What ever came with phone. Last and current is s7 earphones

>>56673470
Fidelio X2

>>56675871
you're just acting like reddit

>>56676411
Top argument, pal.

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>>56673449
Ath ad900x $138 and sound better than m50 and is more comfortable imo. With the m50 your ears gets warm when you wear it for more than 1-2 hours, but the ad900x can be wore for over 4 hours easily without a problem. Open would be good if you play any games with surround sound too.

You can also take a look at the hd558 for $104 and do the (foam mod) to make it sound like the 598, no need for amp. For $200 exactly you can also get the AKG 7XX on massdrop right now, but you need an amp.


>>56676389
philips x2 cost around $230 in the US though.


>>56676003
Maybe the Creative Aurvana Live! or Sony MDR-ZX700? I would normally say the sony v6/7506, but in germany its over 130 on germany amazon for some reason. Normally they are under 80 and can go as low as 60.

Getting conflicting information on closed vs open for diy gaming headsets. One source says that an open design will allow sound in and detract from your ability to pinpoint sounds, another says an open design helps with that by expanding the soundstge.

Who do I believe?

>>56676556
It does both, if you live in a quiet environment then there won't be too much sound to flow in and you'll be alright. If you live in a noisy environment, then you'll hear everything around you.

>>56676556
open is better for game like fps, with close cans you probably won't get good soundstage unless its one of those really high end close cans headphones $700+

>>56676585
Guess that all depends on how you define noisy. I'm the kind of guy who would rather isolate with my music/vidya.

>>56676601
I'm shit at video games so I don't know how much it matters. It ain't the audio equipment that gets my shit pushed in.

>>56672287
the best chink mics need phantom power, which will cost more than the mic itself if you want something of decent quality, which drives up the price to modmic levels or over.

>>56676431
A Headphone Story

About 12 years ago I bought every popular headphone under $200 and settled on Sony EX51. I've used them ever since, give through so many sets, but they were commonly available new-old-stock for $5 on eBay so I'd just buy them a dozen at a time.

They're getting hard to find these days so I've decided to hunt for a new favorite headphone.

* SoundMagic E10S

Not bad, but not great either. They're a littlw "muffled" I spose and the cable is not very flexible.

* Xiaomi Piston 3

I'm pretty sure I got a fake set of these, they sounded worse than an AM radio in a bathroom. I've got another set on the way.

* Sony EX10 and EX15

Pretty good, almost as good as EX51. The EX10 in particular is very small which is great for listening while laying on my side in bed. I'll buy some more of these for spares.

* Xiaomi Piston 4

Fuck yeah. Crisp clear highs and big bass, a tad less clear in midrange than the old EX51s but once you get into it you barely notice, and I think overall they sound better. I'm hearing parts of songs I miss completely on speakers. Very happy with these.

I still have some Xiaomi Piston 2 and 1More Piston 3 on the way, so I'll see how they turn out.

I can't choose b/w Sennheiser HD 559/598 and the AT ATH-900x because I don't know whether I want open or closed.

Are there any other differentiating factors aside from whether they're open/closed?

>>56675915
I'm scared because you post this anon.

>>56676890
Monkeys also like to play with shit.

>>56673278
ebay

V6 vs 7506 vs m40x

Which one is better?

>>56675401
Not seeing you contribute with either relevant or updated material.

>>56677097
V6 and 7506 are basically the same except for a few different materials on the wiring and the stickers.
Can't be bothered to do so from my mobile, but search for measurements of v6 and m40x on google, should give you some insights about them.

I read the OP but all the review sites are shilling for whomever payed them the most.

Are there Bluetooth earbuds with high enough quality to justify getting the iPhone 7? And if not, lightning connection is still viable, right?

STAX MASTER RACE.

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Does anyone know where/how to get these DT770s or are they custom made or some shit?

The ones I found on amazon all have those greyish velours pads and say "Pro" on them

>>56677395
No, for the same price you'd pay for a wireless headphone you could get much better wired headphones, lightning might work since it's cheap, but you will never upgrade from it since most respected audio companies do their main headphones with TRS cable connections.

>>56677733
That's a regular DT770 pro with leather pads for extra isolation, you can get those pads at Amazon as well, they should cost around 35 bucks.

>>56677657
Which are you using, friend?

>>56677800
sweet thanks I didn't know there were third party pads

>tfw you're on your third pair of yamaha eph-100 (warranty replacement)
they sound fucking good tho

>>56677395
>all the review sites are shilling
Most audio reviews are somewhere between a waste of time or worse than useless. You learn that fast in the audio world, or blow out a small fortune before you do.
>earbuds
Normally, earbuds only refer to those things that don't go into the ear canal and rest on bowl of your ear. The Apple Earpods for instance. The usual suggestion would be to get that is inserted into the canal, something with sleeves and tips you can put over the sound nozzle.

>with high enough quality to justify getting the iPhone 7
I think you're going about this the wrong way, but yes. The LG Tone models have generally been decent so far, but somewhat bulky.
Sony had a nice bassy model, SBH80, has a couple of quirks in usage.

>>56677733
That's DT770-M

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>>56678054
Are you sure? Because they usually say "M" on them

>>56677395
you need a DAC to convert the digital signal into sound and whichever one they use is likely to be shitty or you get added bulk and expense because crapple didn't want to put it in the phone

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>>56678054
>>56678081
I think they just slightly changed the design senpai

pic related is from a blog post from 2010

So..

ATH M40X
ATH M50X
DT770 Pro 80
DT990 32
Whatever the fuck else

Which do I get?

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>Budget
$20-30
>Location
Israel
>Source
PC, Smartphone, no DAC
>Preferred type of headphone
IEMS
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
Important
>Preferred tonal balance
>Past headphones
MEElectronics M9P

Comfort > sound quality
prefer ones you can wear straight-down as well as over
need a mic option

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>>56678295
>>Budget
>$20-30
>>Location
>Israel

>Budget
around £100

>Location
Ireland

>Source
FiiO X1

>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear, closed to semi open

>Comfort level
doesn't matter

>Past Headphones
Urbanite XL

>>56678295
Bass? Treble? Neutrality? Give us information you greedy merchant.

So the guy from the last thread that meant you should have at least 100 mW @ 300 Ω didn't really know what he was talking about? I can't find anything by Tyll or nwavguy that supports what he was talking about regarding impedance across different frequencies.

>>56678306
Don't mind the budget anon, am NEET so I find it hard to justify spending more right now (but I can).

>>56678330
Bass if I had to choose I guess since I listen to EDM.

>>56678385
>I find it hard to justify spending more right now (but I can)
oy vey

What to expect from the hd650
Did I fuck up, should i cancel my order?

>>56677395
Lightning to TRS adapter can be used if you want to continue using your old devices with the iPhone 7.

>>56677766
Correlation between price and sound quality is weak. Picking models in that fashion is hardly better than picking at random.

>>56678085
Of the various failings, design incompetence, and drawbacks of headphones that are wireless and of headphones in general, you picked the converter?
Apple never eliminated the DAC and has no ability to do so.
Digital audio conversion costs are minute to do a decent job for audio. Device footprint can be made exceedingly small.

>>56678407
You fucked up. Order Stax instead.

>>56678385
Rock Zircon or Boarseman KR49i.

>>56678414
sure that's why good DACs cost $100++

>>56678492
thanks anon!

would $30-40 make a huge bump?

>>56677316
The measurements suggest that it's a bit bright, with rolled off sub-bass. Is that correct or do I suck cocks?

Any reviews on the new Sennheiser headphones? The HD 4.30 is literally perfect for me but I'm worried they're going to sound like shit.

>>56678763
I bet they sound almost exactly the same as the previous iterations

>>56678784
Even the hd599 and the rest of that line? Idk why they would waste the amazing design of the hd 4.30g on a low end headset. And then the hd 579 has that awesome grey coloring and they have the ugly noctua colors on the hd599. Drives me crazy.

>>56678185
goys?

>>56678185
>>56678841
They're all so different, it's hard to say

>>56677766
Alright, makes sense.

>>56678010
Yeah, you're totally right. I took a look at my friend's 7 this morning and I realized that lightning is still obviously viable.

Thanks for the other responses.

I think what I'm really asking for is a pair of Bluetooth earbuds with reasonable sound quality and good bass. I want earbuds or "in ear" headphones because (I think) I want a low-profile, portable solution. I love to listen to music while I'm skiing or am in transit.

Heres what I have now.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JRD13T8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474293300&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=sony+bass+booster&dpPl=1&dpID=31O0Auv0ucL&ref=plSrch

>>56678556
Not really, those already shit on more expensive earphones.

>Budget
<100 bongs
>Location
England
>Source
Laptop, desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
Around ear
>Open or closed
Prefer closed
>Comfort level
Sound > comfort
>Preferred tonal balance
flatish, maybe slightly on the warmer side
>Past headphones
MDR-V6.

I've been looking at the Brainwavz HM5 and equivalent but the build quality worries me.

Guess what senpaitachi.

I picked up Bose Quietcomfort 35s today. Absolutely awesome.

Am I a pleb casual?

>>56675351
No one?

>>56678859

I'll redo my ideals then

>Budget
£100 ish
>Location
UK
>Source
Desktop PC, Guitar Amp, (Future) Record Player
>Preferred type of headphone
Full/Over Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Headphones that are comfy for a glasses wearer would be great
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral to slightly warm
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 202

Been looking at the M50X and DT770 Pro 80s with serious consideration but its very hard to decide with so much love and ahte for both

>>56679028
As far as I know, the M50X isn't over ear, it's on-ear

>>56679063
I suppose I am actually flexible on that as long as they don't dig my glasses into the side of my head, the HD 202s haven't caused me problems beyond irritation after a couple hours of solid use.

>>56679113
Well, the DT770 has a lot of bass and somewhat recessed mids, but my biggest complain on those is the sibilant treble on some recordings. Those headphones limit me to just a few artists that I have on my PC and don't let me listen to everything because of the ear piercing treble of some albums

>>56679028
I think the creative aurvana fits those standards. They're pretty cheap, closed, easy to drive, and I've heard a lot of good things about it's low end. I don't know anything else about it though.

You could also look into the m40x, those are closed and in the price range but I don't know what their sound signature is like.

i feel retarded for asking but does anyobne kno whow to use shirt clips for their earphones? cant find anything on google? my brainwavz m1 came with one.

>>56679152
>I don't know what their sound signature is like.
Less bassy, more neutral than the M50X

>>56678185
Do you need/want Isolation? If so discart the open-back option, now ir the closed ones, do you preffer more V-Shape signature, more emphasis on bass or closer to neutral? What's the DT770, M50 and M40 in order.

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>>56679152
>>56679178

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>>56679152
>>56679178
>>56679208

>>56678407
>What to expect from the hd650
What do you think right now? What else have you listened to and what do you think of those things?
>Did I fuck up, should i cancel my order?
Only if you don't like it. This is the only consideration to make.

>>56678503
It is difficult enough to establish whether Redbook audio is lacking, but even sub-100 USD gear can fulfill and exceed that ten times over. Popular choices of DACs are selected for the additional features, outputs, and for sake of peace of mind.

>>56679178
>>56679208
>>56679230
Thank you, I'm always looking to learn more about headphones.

>>56679169
What is the problem? You fasten the shirt clip to your headphone's cable and then fasten to clip on your clothes. I guess you could experiment with different places to put the clip, but it's not exactly rocket science anon.

>>56678414
>Correlation between price and sound quality is weak.
It isn't when your options for the same price are either one of several measured and tested good headphones vs a wireless headphones with no data proving they are good except for a few rather expensive models like the vmoda wireless which doesn't even attempt to be neutral since it's not the the company's signature sound (which i actually respect since they are honest about their wireless Just trying to replicate their wired M100).

>>56679276
is this where I put the cord in? I don't know what this rotating thing is for.

>>56679152

The M40X sounds the best from my non-audiophile hearing, the M50X has that extra bass kick and I definitely enjoy that and i've definitely heard the DT770s got more treble in them, i'm personally not sure if that is good or bad but if they're going to spike badly that may be a bad choice

>>56679202

Emphasis on bass would be great, working down to neutral. I don't think the v shaped signature would really benefit me or the music I listen to

>>56679208
>>56679230

Can I get an idiots guide to these? i'd appreciate understanding the difference between these two

>>56678367
Tyll isn't necessarily the first person to go to about this, and there are some things Tyll should know that he doesn't.

>didn't really know what he was talking about?
Quick answer: no.

> 100 mW @ 300 Ω
Power can be seen as the product of voltage and current. You can only guarantee one of these for a (reactive) headphone load. Description in terms of power is awkward to use. We use voltage, since this is what our devices revolve around.
More voltage is never a bad thing, but you don't always need it.

The frequency magnitude charts you see are really a ratio chart, even if they usually don't show the scale as the proper Volt/Pressure ratio. The charts shows the ratio of the sound output from a constant voltage input. This can be bass heavy or midrange skewed or whatever. Changing the input voltage doesn't change the ratio.

>impedance across different frequencies
The load is reactive, headphone voice coils have an inductance associated with them. The impedance of an inductor increases with higher frequencies.

There is the electro-mechanical resonance, the bass hump that you see in the impedance plot. The driver is given to vibration at some frequency, as are most mechanical devices. The magnetic field opposes motion of a current carrying wire, the voice coil, by generating a reverse voltage to oppose the input current. This is the electrical damping that drives up the impedance at frequency in which the driver tends to vibrate more.
The reverse voltage does not make it harder to "drive", the impedance spike(s) exists because it tends to easily move at that frequency and the magnetic damping limits the natural mechanical motion. If you clamp the driver to stop it from moving, the hump disappears.
You use the least current and power at the resonant frequency.

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>>56679302

>>56679370
Yeah, you insert the cable in the nook on the rotating thing. Then you stick the clip on your clothes.

>>56676928
K612 is better than both tbhfamily

>>56679323
I have the 80 ohm 770's and I think the treble sounds just fine. I'm either not sensitive to treble at all or the songs I listen to don't have much treble.

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Best headphones here

>>56679446
Aren't these completely devoid of bass?

>>56678492
>boar semen

>>56679368
Thanks for taking the time to type that up and replying anon. The part of about frequency magnitude charts was especially helpful; I haven't seen it explained in such a simple way anywhere else.

Regarding the impedance across different frequencies, it seems I read "Electrical Impedance and Phase" on Tyll's blog correctly, unless I am also misunderstanding your post.

But on the matter of specifically how powerful an amp you would need to drive the HD600:

I'm more or less just going by this article by nwavguy: http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/09/more-power.html.

According to that article, 100 mW @ 300 Ω would equal a voltage of 5.48.

According to the same article, that would drive the HD600 to 117 dB.

The FiiO E10K has an output power of 200mW@32Ω. That equals a voltage of 2.53.

That would drive the HD600 to 110 dB.

The article by nwavguy makes some arguments for being able to drive your headphones to at least 115 dB, but it seems to me like 110 dB should be fine for most people.

Am I missing something? Is being able to drive a headphone to a high enough sound level all there is to an amp?
It seems to me like there is a lot more to read on this subject, so I wouldn't be surprised if I've overlooked anything.

>>56679708
anyone who actually believes they sound like this is retarded

>>56679515
I hope thats the case for me too then, I'm looking at a black pair of 80s for £99 and I'm almost ready to jump on them but each comment on the treble just holds me back each time

>>56679747
alpha as fuck

>>56679866
You could always try to eq them or return them I suppose.

>>56679747
You find the most disturbing things on ali if you make a small typo..
That day i learned how to spell "Boarseman".

hey guys looking for a pair of in-ears because i'm done using big over-ears outside.
Budget: 200$ tops, considering Beyerdynamic iDX 200 iE but would absolutely love to go cheaper
Source: iPhone
Preferred tonal balance: Balanced, natural
Past headphones: Sennheiser Momentum, Alessandro Grado MS-1

would appreciate any help

>>56680051
I think that is my best bet, thanks everyone for the help

>>56671627
Another shitty OP.

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>>56680229

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Mostly for curiosity in your suggestions. I don't need to change short term but I've been thinking of buying Alpha Dogs.

>Budget
500€
>Location
EU
>Source
Meier Audio Corda Opera
>Preferred type of headphone
Around ear
>Open or closed
Closed, high isolation
>Comfort level
Comfy earpillows
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral to warm
>Past headphones
A900x with Alpha Pads; pic related (not mine)

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I need some advice from any porta pro owners here. I've had my pair for a couple of months and I'm now realizing that they can't handle higher volumes with my new amplifier, is that a normal thing or should I send mine in for a replacement? Especially when I play songs with lots of bass, the drivers rattle like crazy and I'm afraid that they'll break. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.

>>56680954
don't play them too loud jeez

why did you get an amp for porta pros

>>56680954
>the drivers rattle like crazy
Ha you dun fucked up. Dats called rattle of death.

How I know it's done fucked up. My friend owns Beyerdynamic T1s and those are impossible to fix. Highly precise tesla magnet shit and he fucked those up pretty good. Rattle of death is painful. I know how you feel.

>>56680954
Why an amp for those? You done goofed

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>Budget
$40 would be pushing it

>Location
Trumpistan

>Source
4-year-old laptop

>Preferred type of headphone
Whichever

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
I'll suffer if it saves 50 cents

>Preferred tonal balance
No emphasis on treble. Want to hear harmonies.

>Past headphones
Earbuds I found on the ground and dollar-store Sentry clamps. Trying on someone's headphones was like going from modality to tonality.

>>56679821
What about the HD650? I think those headphones are even more sensitive than the 600s

>>56679850
What would you change in that graph?

>>56681020
>>56681245
Its just an amp for my speakers and record player.

>>56680982
It's not any louder than how I play my 7506s though. I wouldn't think that would make them pps rattle so much.

Can anyone recommend a mic that has a better mounting solution than the Modmic, that won't pic up my Unicomp keypresses?

>>56681326
Well, my interest was mainly in the HD600, since that's what I have (or at least ordered 3 weeks ago, thanks DHL).

But just plugging in the numbers (103 + 20 * LOG ( 2.53 ) gives us 111 dB. So yeah, it's a bit more sensitive and therefore goes a bit higher with the same amp.

>>56675351
In that budget realistically youre not going to get what youre looking for, you'll have to compromise on something. especially on the neutral part. its very rare to get neutral sound on cheaper cans

if you can stretch up to the SHP 9500 or the HD 558, thats when you'll pretty much tick all boxes

closed typically has worse soundstage too, so unless you have a loud fan or aircon, there isnt much of a point if you want that for gaming. open leaves a much less congested sound too

>>56675915
just use 3M double sided adhesive or just double sided tape
won't change shit in terms of sound

>>56676003
MDR v6 if you can get it low enough
or ATH M40X with velour pads

>>56676556
open is always better
more potential

the only reason you want closed is if you have a loud environment, or you don't want people to hear your shit
otherwise open is best

>>56678185
770, or m40x with a pad change if you dont like the 770 for some reason
dunno why you wouldnt

>>56678295
xiaomi hybrids/piston4/zircons
[in that order]

>>56679028
m50x a shit. m40x is better. the 770 is better than both in terms of actual sound quality, though the m40x will be slightly more balanced

the m?0x need a pad change anyway to be remotely comfortable, and theyre probably not great for glasses either way
the 770 would be fine for glasses. big ass velour comfy pads

>>56681277
youre gonna have to buy shit online to get decent cans at that price range
even still they may not quite fit the bill
look into the superlux HD-681 EVO and the 662 EVO
otherwise at that point you may have to go with IEMs

>>56681446
>using a speaker amp on headphones
nigger what the fuck are you doing

>>56681759
a mic on a boom
even still it'll likely pick up keypresses
to make that not happen the mic will either sound shit or youll have to do it in a sound editor

>>56681848
It's a receiver, what's wrong with that?

>Budget
150€ish
>Location
germany
>Source
pc/laptop, nvidia shield tv remote, phone
>Preferred type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
very comfy

Thank you in advance!

>>56682016
DT770 Pro 80Ohm

>>56675240
bump

>>56682110
thanks, I'll look into them!

>>56682016
apple wireless earbuds

>>56682340
does apple make wireless anal buds?

>Budget
125 USD
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone primarily
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
very comfortable pls
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, or warm but not ridiculous with bass.
Thanks in advance

>>56682474
Harmony Audio HA-R154

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anyone have any experience with jaybird x2?

>>56682499
The only results I'm finding for those are car stereos. Am I missing something?

>Budget
Below $100, flexible
>Location
USA
>Source
LG v10
>Preferred type of headphone
IEMs
>Comfort level
Need to fit in industrial headphones for further noise isolation.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
I had the Etymotic Research, but they proved too large to fit underneath my industrial headphones. I'm an e-sports player, though, not a construction worker. Just looking for something to keep the sound of the crowd out.

>>56683129
Shure SE215

>>56683142
Wow, thanks for the lightning fast response. Appreciate it a ton.

>>56683142
>Shure SE215
Far from neutral.

>>56683171
What is it?

>>56683255
Bassy

http://en.goldenears.net/5982

>>56683283
>http://en.goldenears.net/5982
I see, thanks. Do you have a better suggestion, by any chance?

>>56683310
Neutral in-ears are hard to come by, especially so if you exclude Etymotics. Shures do have a nice fit but past the bassy SE215, the rest are different levels of dark with poor bandwidth. Might not really have much of an impact on games if that's your main consideration. Which Etys did you have and what part didn't fit under the earmuffs?

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>>56683423
Woops, I didn't specify. I had the HF5's, I believe. The cylindrical black part that holds the wire was too large/long to fit underneath the earmuffs.

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Tell me literally everything about these and why I should get them instead of the HD650

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>>56683496
MC5 and MK5 might be a bit more shallow than the HF5 but the difference is small. Damn shame they don't make the ER-6i anymore.

>>56683511
>why I should get them instead of the HD650
If you like them more.

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>>56683129
HiFiMan RE-400? Dunno if they would be too large.

>>56683666
>If you like them more.
Can't find them around my place to try both

>>56682771
I have them and they are good, IMO worth the money.

>>56683723
how comfy are they?

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>>56683693
I'm an idiot, that's not the correct graph.

>>56683511
do you like nobass? then get them!

Anyone else bothered by the fact Apple decided to use only black people in their new website for the AirPods?

>>56683820
Why? It's their target audience.

>>56679821
>Fiio E10k
You can use the voltage Fiio provides(~2.6 Vrms), that works better for high impedance loads in general.

>article by nwavguy
Let's just say that he errs severely on the side of caution. While it is true that loudness perception does not neatly match up with the absolute level of the track, most tracks have well under 25 dB (instantaneous) dynamic range. This includes music with minimal compression. We can come up with reasons why you might want that overhead, a large EQ addition for instance, but he didn't cover that.
More voltage on hand isn't bad, but a very common occurrence is that most people buy overdesigned products that never get used to anywhere near its full ability.

>Am I missing something? Is being able to drive a headphone to a high enough sound level all there is to an amp?
That is its job. By normal thinking it should be maximally flat in the audio range and linear as well, but then you have fellows in certain audio circles that have other ideas.

>It seems to me like there is a lot more to read on this subject, so I wouldn't be surprised if I've overlooked anything.
Definitely is more, but it also depends what type of device you are looking at. This is a good deal of the essentials so far, maybe sometime I could tell why "damping factor" is somewhere between misleading and nonsense.

There is a fair bit of mathematics lurking in the measurements. It would be fair to say that most of it is only used to justify analyzing the output in a more easily understood form, but some subtleties can be missed this way.

>>56681326
>What about the HD650? I think those headphones are even more sensitive than the 600s
Sennheiser says it has higher sensitivty, but only at one point of the sensitivity chart. It doesn't account for the sensitivity in the rest of the audio range.
It's also only 1 dB nominally, not much of a deal breaker and subject to manufacturer tolerances.

>>56679230
>>56679208
quit posting these terrible slav measurements, they're so misleading

>>56683666
Ah, I see. Thanks for letting me know though; glad I didn't just waste money on those.

So, I'm looking for a headphone upgrade

>Budget
$200 give or take, not set in stone but wouldn't want to go too much over
>Location
Romania
>Source
PC, Xonar DX (willing to buy a heaphone amp too if needed)
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfortable enough to wear for a good few hours at a time
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral and extending down into the sub-bass range as much as possible, if not possible I'd rather have bassy headphones. I don't like very exaggerated treble, it feels tiring.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD448, looking to replace them since they started falling apart and can't even come close to the sound quality of my amp/speakers, they feel like they lack impact and sound kind of unclear compared to my speakers (Bronze BX2 + BK Gemini 2 + NAD C 326BEE).

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>>56683784
>do you like nobass?
I thought the 712 had a massive bass boost compared to the older AKGs. In fact, this is the goldenears graph

would using a portable heeadamp improve anything on my AKG K92?

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Can anyone identify these headphones?

>>56684416
>AKG K92
> 113 dB SPL 32 ohms
Absolutely not. The only thing it will do is make them louder, but if you're listening to those things at max volume already you'll go deaf.
As a general rule you don't need to worry about amps until you get to the "audiophile" headphones tier.

>>56683977
Alright, seems like I did get the basics down then. Again, thanks for replying anon! It's nice to get some help with this slightly more technical stuff.

>>56684533
bluedio turbine

is Black Friday a good day to buy a Headphone in USA?

i'm going to Miami soon and i may get one


i want to spend something around 100$, if possible

(i will only use it for vidya, so i don't need fancy shit)


also, i may buy a mic

>>56684222
the compensation curve lacks bass and even if it was correct, the graph doesn't show a bass boost.
PROTIP: use 500 Hz as a reference point if a peak or dip is occurring at 1 kHz.

I'm going to buy my first pair of headphones and looking around i found interensting the akg k240 studio.
Any owners here can give me an opinion on these?

>>56685888
So the hd650 manages to have more bass?

>>56686419
K712 and HD 650 have roughly the same amount of bass.
The bass of the 650 is probably more noticeable because they have less treble.

>>56686577
Thanks. How do they compare to the 702? I like EDM but I don't want boomy headphones like the DT990, which I desliked. I found the 702 to be relatively decent on some tracks but on others the bass was very distant and I barely felt the beats. Was wondering how the 650 compare and what it sounds like if I add a small low-shelf filter to it (nothing too strong)

>>56686638
If you're going to EQ your headphones, you might as well go with the AKGs.

>>56686748
I don't want to if it's unnecessary but why do you say that?

>>56686783
AKG has better quality control, better build quality and non-proprietary connectors.

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Are these meme headphones a requirement for every shitty youtuber?

>>56686978
So what about them? Do you want people to choose Philips SHP9500 instead for the same price?

>>56687029
oh.

I forgot HD558 exists.

>>56671627
JoJ

These are going for $67. Any experience with these?

http://thestatusaudio.com/products/cb1

Is it possible to buy Shure replacement parts? One of the arms on my SRH840s snapped in half, can't glue them back together.

>>56671627
Shit OPs like this should be banned

>>56689403
autismos like you should be banned

>>56689418
>Being here 24/7 just to justify your shitty OP

Get a life.

>>56689439
He would if he could.

As it stands, he's too fat to get out of his chair and his bath is a rag on a stick and a mop bucket.

>>56689439
Im not OP you aspie newfag

>>56689452
Don't fat shame me.

>>56689439
>>56689452
samefag

>>56671627
is picture that fanmade?

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What is /g/'s opinion of Sol Republics?

>>56689717
Nigger shit that belongs in the garbage

>>56689805
Stop bumping let the thread die so I can post a better OP

>>56689864
Or we can get it to bump limit faster and have the real OP that isn't a shitpost.

>>56689864
Why don't you just post a new OP now since we all know you're not going to wait for the bump limit anyways.

>>56681848
German anon here(50€ budget).
What about the Sony MDR MA300? Open or closed doesn't matter that much to me after all.

>>56690163
I feel bad for you. You missed out on a $55 USD Sony MDR V6. Just received my V6 today and can vouch for it. But I checked thomann.de and amazon.de and it'd way too expensive.

>>56690230
Eh. Not like I lost anything, but I'm curious what I missed out on. I'm guessing there was a price glitch and those headphones are amazing?
Still, how are the Sony MDR MA300? Again, I'm completely entry level.

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>Headphone request.

Just want ATh-m50s but comfortable. noise cancellation and isolation is all i care about. oh and prefer an even sound

>>56690275
>how are the Sony MDR MA300?
I can't tell but here's measurements
http://en.goldenears.net/14410

I think it looks better than the MDR 7506.
http://en.goldenears.net/4726

The V6 I'm using. I approve of them. I have Sennheiser HD600 too.

Looking to get my first pair of decent headphones. Thinking of getting the 598 but not sure if I should wait for the 599s to get a little cheaper or any of the newer sennheiser headphones. What are your thoughts? I heard the 598s go on sale on black friday for pretty low so I'm thinking of waiting until then

Is benchmark DAC GOAT?

What other hardware is even close to touching benchmark's legendary performance?

>>56689864
Ar least don't be a complete contrarian faggot and post the usefull suggestions when you finally decide to ignore bump limit like you always do.

>>56689717
Poor man's nigger bass (aka beats dre)

Try TH900 on a properly bass boosted source(none of that youtube crap since it clips a lot) on a decent amp. It blows nigger's 90 IQ in the water

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>>56690275
>>56690311
Here's photo.

Anyone here own or heard both 7506 + V6?

>>56676526
Is the sound difference for the 7xx's really worth the price difference when I add in an amp? And what about listening to it on my phone? Would that be feasible?
I have no fucking clue what I'm doing and while I have a basic understanding I don't actually know of much of anything about amps/DACs.
How are the audio-technica ath-msr7gm? From my understanding they look a step up from the m50's.
Basically my choices (that I've found) are the HD 558/598, akg 7xx, either the ad900x you mentioned or the ath I mentioned, or something like the v Moda m100.

>>56690746
What kind of music you listen to? Like what genre.

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>>56686978
>when shitty twitch streamers get your headphones

This general is full of people asking questions and no one answering better go to redddit/headphones

>>56690746
>I don't actually know of much of anything about amps/DACs.
Ask away, you might need to. Some basics: >>56679368 >>56683977

>ath-msr7
GM is the color. MSR7 is also very different from the M50 in sound.
I also think it sounds a lot better, but opinions.

>my choices
A few others: DT770, K612, HP50, QC25...
Many more than I don't know about.

>>56675236
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out which burzum album this is referring too

>>56682016
still looking for some more suggestions!

>>56672285
545's are better for peasant trash. Smaller earcups and lighter.

>>56671627
>Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
>Wireless is frowned upon.
>Headset requests are frowned upon.
Why? There are no guidelines or rules for this thread, all discussion is allowed here.

Fucking newfags trying to ruin /hpg/.

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>>56689403
And yet, the incomplete OP only happens when it's created before the bump limit. Weird, huh?

>>56691769
It's not the incomplete OP you stupid fucking retard, it's the proper OP with no shitposting bait.

>>56679299
>with no data proving they are good
The larger problem is the lack of any data and the blind, sweeping generalization and speculation that fills the void. There is no necessary electroacoustic reason to be bad, and no indication to believe your effort or lack thereof in examining wireless devices has been exhaustive either.

>except for a few rather expensive models like the vmoda wireless
Really? It's closer to the original Crossfade and poor; the M100 is barely better as far as design targets go, neutrality aside.

>>56679028
AKG K545s are a solid option, I was looking into the M50x set and I came across them. Nowhere near as popular but supposedly good and well within the same category.

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>>56691782
> being this butthurt
What memes did you fall for? It's OK, you can tell us.

>>56691856
The ER-4S and HD600 meme.

Now fuck off and kill yourself newfag.

Headphone for DIY bedroom studio

>Budget
$300

>Location
SE Asia/Singapore

>Source
PC

>Preferred type of headphone
Circumaural, open

>Comfort level
Don't really care

>Preferred tonal balance
Balanced. Flat everything.

>Past headphones
ATH M40x

>>56683693
>>56683753
>log scale
y tho

What are good wireless cans?

Thinking about either the momentums or audio technica ones.

Both are 200 and change on amazon.

>>56691743
>Why?
Have you been absent from /hpg/ the last month or just trying to pick a fight? Given how you are calling anyone who disagrees with you a newfag I'm going to assume you're just trying to pick a fight.

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>>56691940
What makes it proper? The fact that it still causes shitposting?

>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEMs
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral/Balanced
>Past headphones
Etymotic MK5

>>56692133
Much more convenient and in certain ways also closer to how our hearing perceives things.

>>56692356
>>incomplete op
Take a look at the MA750? A bit more than $100 but recommended for the price point though a bit more v-shaped.

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Superlux HD 681 vs Koss UR40 for long term computer use (more than 4 hours at a time easily).

Will these make my ears hot like my PortaPros?

>>56692410
Something that I'm kind of used to with the MK5's is how deep they go in my ear. Are the MA750's kind of comparable? I'm new to the IEM game.

>>56692356
HF5 or RE400.

>>56692410
>MA750
>even slightly neutral
No.

>>56692606
Based off >>56692593 I think the HF5s are my best bet. Building that Etymotic brand loyalty. Thanks.

>Budget
Around 200 dollars

>Location
Poland

>Source
Pc. Fiio x1. Gotta do something about dying battery.

>Preferred type of headphone
I need earbuds. Already have akg 517 which I will swap for something better later.

>Comfort level
Probably customizable with different rubber thingies.

>Past headphones
Sennheiser cx200. Too much high frequencies.

Vsonic vsd1s. Sound was good until the bodies of the earbuds have fallen apart.

Akg k517. Sound is fine but ears hurt after long sessions. Especially if you're wearing glasses.

>>56692620
I think this is worth it https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006N43MEI/

Or a random impedance adapter on ebay. It makes the HF5s highs more better.

>>56692673
Seeing as you like a bassy/dark signature, SE215 or MA750.

>>56692715

What the fuck is that? Looks like typical audio snake oil.. $50?

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I have the Meze 99 classics and I'm thinking about buying the HD 600s, how much of an upgrade will I be getting?

They are both exactly the same price right now.

>>56692746
As said in that anon's post, it's an impedance adapter. The ER4PT is a low impedance ER4S. I've never seen anyone use it with another Ety model, though.

Can I get some suggestions for a headset that does CLOSE to everything I need them for? I don't know much about sound quality here. But will I need two headsets? I really don't want to keep buying the cheapie Panasonic ear buds like I have been, but is there something out there that works well for Electronic music, classical, jazz, and would give me good sound for videogames/movies on the pc? I would also like to be able to use them in the train while I commute.

>>56692911
PS forgot to mention my budget is about 200-250.

>>56692218

my bad

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SOM7XJC/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-WS99BT-Bluetooth-Wireless-Headphones/dp/B015N52YUU/ref=sr_1_1?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1474226669&sr=1-1&keywords=ath-WS99BT

both get good reviews on amazon and headfi

>>56692926
>in the real HPG
>muh real ScottsHPG

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>>56692911
hd558 (home + game) and shure se215 (for train) if you live in the US. Using headphone in public transportation is a pain in the ass (and you don't want to look more like an autist wearing full size cans ie: source me).

>>56692017
hd600 or akg 7xx series

>>56690296
>want headphone sounding like m50
>even sound

>>56693065
Just like that? I didn't think it would be so easy. Do the hd558s sound good with bassier music still? I like deep base but I want to enjoy my new home theater set up with a bigger soundstage kind of sound.

>>56693065
I also don't have a DAC or Amp yet because I wanted to do more research for that after I chose some headphones. I also don't really care what it looks like wearing full size cans in the train. No one bothers me anyway.

>>56692415
please respond D:

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>>56693139
I heard philips fidelio x2 is good for bass, but im not sure if it is just hype or not (was thinking of buying this personally but its kind of pricey right now, since I think they stop production 248 on amazon when the hd600 is 299).

>>56693159
With open cans you shouldn't wear it in public since there is no isolation. The sound leaks a bit at moderately high volume and you can hear the noise from outside. Good for games though and HD558 doesn't need an amp.

>>56692415
I would probably pick the superlux, but if you are a jew like me (metaphorically :^)) i would do the amazon prime 1 month trial (you can literally make multiple email and do the 1 month trial again and again after cancelling, and I never got banned. I used the same address, credit card, and name) and order them both and return the one you don't want within a month. When you return the headphone back make sure to click "No longer needed" and it would be refunded in full in 3 days. Tape it up and drop it off in the closest UPS. ez

I have some Xiaomi Piston V2s. I found some V3s on an airplane and (after cleaning them and replacing the tips, obviously) used them and thought they were better than the 2s. They were more comfortable and sounded better. However, I broke them by accident the other day.

Anyway, question is, since the Pistons are discontinued, how do the Hybrids compare to either the 2s or 3s? If I'm going to buy a new pair, should I buy some Hybrids, or buy another set of 3s?

>>56693608
Piston 3 is still the recommended IEM if you cannot spend more than $20.

>>56693661
OK, I'll probably pick up another set of Piston 3s. I was kind of upset when they broke, even though they're relatively cheap and that set was free. It's hard going back to the 2s temporarily.

>>56693661
>Piston 3
Aren't those incredibly bassy?

>>56693690
Try Bluedio n2, they're pretty good and cheaper

>>56693761
>wireless
Nope.

>>56693835
>wanting to deal with the hassle of wires
Nope.

>>56693893
> wanting to deal with the hassle of batteries
hell nope

>>56693910
>wanting to deal with wires getting caught on protruding objects
No fucking way.

>>56693980
>wanting to deal with worse sound quality
Nah.

>>56694085
>cheaper earphones have worse sound quality
Thank you captain obvious.

>>56693661
the retardedly cheap ones on ebay from china/malaysia/phillippines are fake i presume? how do you get legit ones?

>>56692745
Thank you, I think I'll grab the RHA ones.

>>56671627
>Budget
$200 - $400

>Location
The airplane, subway and office

>Source
iPhone

>Preferred type of headphone
Convince me not to buy the Bose qc20 RIGHT NOW (I'm basically at the checkout)

>Open or closed
I'm mainily an IEM faggot so idk desu

>Comfort level
comfy pls

>Preferred tonal balance
I have a bias towards more bass as I listen to a lot of electronic dubstep, heavy metal, epic cinematic music and sometimes J-Pop

>Past headphones
Seinheisser CX 300

>>56694085
Is this 2012? I thought we were past Bluetooth 2.0

New thread when?

>>56694499
Usually after bump limit.

>>56694527
which is?

>>56694532
hownew.ru

>>56694564
>different boards have different limits

New thread lads.

>>56694701
>>56694701
>>56694701

>>56694532
>>56694600
310

>>56694564
the change to 310 is new tho

>>56692754
Pls respond ;_;