/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>>56609672

its super cheap though, and i dont currently have a machine running w10. ideally id like to dual boot for linux tinkering. but keep w10 for a super portable windows machine.

>>56609701

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-320GB-HDD-6GB-RAM-Core-i5-2520M-2-50GHz-Win7-Pro-Laptop-81-/262624186180

Just an example of what you could get instead of that crappy netbook

>>56609763
fair enough. thanks for the link.

>>56607654

>"OMG Anon, only you could bring such weird shit to work."
>this is a lie

Except it's not.

In my department, peope use either macs, or oversized AMD powered hps.

And, when it comes to the whole uni, thinkpads are not that frequent. Specially a 8 year old one.

I needed to get mine from UK because there weren't a single one for sale in my country.

are there any problems with the t460? Is the coil whine from the t450 still there?

Why is it so hard to find an x220 with an IPS screen?
I don't want the tablet version

>>56610762
Buy one with TN screen and upgrade yourself?
Perhaps that will be cheaper than buying with IPS already installed (pure guess, too lazy to look it up)

>>56610762
It's better to do the upgrade yourself so you can get the IPS panel revision without any ghosting or excessive backlight bleed problems

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What the fuck why is the X line the last to get new tech.
No fucking M2 nvme but STILL a 2.5"?

hardware issue... no soundcard detected, no speaker sound, no headphone sound

is fixing this as simple as resoldering a new SMD audio chip?

>not a thinkpad

Might come into possession of a T42, not sure what specs, the person couldn't tell me.
Would it work as a Chromebook, I'm worried about the old video these machines use, has anyone tried it?

How the fuck do I change the boot order on my T520? Went to install linux and USB isn't listed. Went and checked in the bios and it's listed under ignore, supposedly you press +/- (numpad) to move up/down but it doesn't work because the fucking numpad won't turn on.

>>56611127
Lenovo updates the chassis every 3 generations.

The X260 will be the last model with the current generation chassis which was introduced with the X240.

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>>56611268
Fuck I just bought a X260

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>install older version of intel igp drivers
>open their control panel and it asks me to select basic, advanced or wizard mode
>select wizard immediately, but then realize that's not the kind of wizard I was thinking of
God dammit

>>56611278
I hope they unfuck the X series in the new generation but I feel like it isn't going to happen.

>lack of dual channel ram despite Latitude E7270 and Elitebook 820 G3 having it
>2.5" drive wastes space
>no M.2 NVMe support
>shitty display options

>>56611317
lol i know that feel

So I've been trying to install Ubuntu on my x220 to become a leet hacker like all of you, but I just can't get it to boot from my USB. I've tried all ports and the USB shows up on the boot screen, but nothing happens when I try it. Some googling tells me that I should disable Secure Boot in the BIOS but there is no Secure Boot option. What do I do senpai?

>>56611140
>common /techsupport/

>>56611422
Sandisk drive by any chance?

>>56611528
Nah, it's Transcend

>>56611626
I know that X220s can be picky with what type of USB drives they can boot off of

My sandisk extreme doesn't boot, but a corsair voyager gt will.

>>56611422
try creating usb with different software, i've had luck with Universal Usb Installer. other one you could try is unetbootin

>>56611322
Hope there's a nvme mod in the future.
And maybe a way to fit a better screen in.

My t420 "lid closed sensor" is fucked. I Changed the lid closed action to "do nothing" but it still flashes on and off occasionally. How do I fix it?

Why does this B-Brand laptop het shilled so much on this board? Is it because you are all trying to justify being poor, or is Lenovo actually paying you?

I am using a T430. I applied new thermal paste myself, runs like new, but I want to know if it is possible to unplug the internal webcam and microphone from the inside?

I never opened the screen bezel as I didn't have any need to, in order to get to the heatsink and CPU.
My question is not whether I can unplug it, but it is whether this would cause any hardware/software issues maybe in the BIOS or OS? Or would it just act like the webcam/mic is not there?

Also, is there enough space for that cable or connector to just dangle there on the inside of the bezel if its disconnected?

Please respond.

>>56611957
Obvious bait but I'll bite...
Read the OP and you will find your answer.

>>56611669
Tried Universal and it didn't work.
I've also tried unetbootin, Rufus and Win32DiskImager. Still no luck.

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P A T R I C I A N

>X201
>i5-540M(2.53GHz)
>8GB RAM
>1280x800 screen, no blobs or bleeding
>120GB SSD, SMART says almost unused
>6 cell battery at 90%
>WWAN, fingerprint reader, camera
>some cosmetic wear but no real damage
>keyboard has local layout, some keycaps are worn blank
>new TrackPoint cap
>dock, no optical drive
>65W charger
>cleaned up and repasted
>no OS

How much should I jew for it?

>>56611957
Let's assume we're your typical normalfag, who knows nothing about computers, okay?

>go to Insert Supertstore Here
>go to laptops
>Hello salesman, what would you recommend?
>here, have this blazing fast machine
>wow, its got 4gb of ram, a 250gb HDD, an AMD cpu, and a touch screen?
>hot dog, I'll take it
>stuff into overalls
>walk out
>hurr, why is this so slow

meanwhile, you can get a t430 with a 3rd gen i5, place in a 1080p screen, 16gb of ram, an SSD for the OS, and swap out the optical drive for an ultrabay with a HDD for storage

there is no longer a need for desktops, at least for most people.
its a real shame lenovo ruined everything after the T430/X230 series though

>>56611732
It's not about the OS - the BIOS itself thinks the lid is closed, so it will flash the screen off momentarily. Don't know if you can easily replace the sensor.
>>56612058
I've run X230 without the display or any of the accessories (mic, webcam etc.) just fine, probably the same with T430, it just doesn't care. IIRC the connectors are not inside the bezel so you shouldn't need to open that to disconnect the webcam etc.

>>56612130
I had no idea, thats good to know

I don't give a shit about the 1366x768 panel, since I can't find any 1600x900 or m14x panels that are Matte anymore, I was just gonna leave it in

by any chance, do you have a pic of the body with no palmrest/kb, where I could see which connector handles that?

>living in germany
>all thinkpad listings on ebay are either really overpriced, have no warranty at all or only a stock picture

>>56611730
>Hope there's a nvme mod in the future.

Isn't going to happen.

>>56612409
why?

>>56612295
look usa listings

Just got a T410s from my uncle for free. What would be the best way to go bout upgrading it?
It has 4gb of ram and a 200gb hdd and an i5 520m

>>56612425
I don't want to pay $50 just for shipping

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>>56612423
>only m.2 slot for storage is designed for 42mm cards and is wired to sata
>completely redesigned motherboard required

>>56611114
Which version of the part is that?

>>56612438
well, maybe when you discover the price + that shipping is better than buying a shit-specced one in germany you'll change your mind

>>56612439
Why the fuck does lelnovo use tape to hold the antennae?

>>56612467
http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/resources/

>>56612478
Because it works?

>>56612439
Which is exactly why I said 'mod'.
Some chinks can wire the screen to the dock port. No reason people can't wire the M2 slot to maybe the 2.5 drive space. Then just insert a 2280 drive there.
Of course no one tested that but it's possible.

https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/

Honestly much cheaper would it be just to do this shit myself

>>56612470
There's also an 20-something % of import charges and the fact that I don't want an US keyboard

>>56612509
By this I mean to buy a cheap unmodified t400 and just buy and replace the parts myself

>>56612505
>m.2 slot traces still end up at the sata controller

Good luck trying to wire that shit in, the display port mod was much easier than what you're proposing

Plus there's no demand for mods on a cucked machine

>>56612509
>>56612522
Do you not understand how business works? Of course it's gonna be cheaper.

>>56612546
They dropped the sata lanes. That slot was for the WWAN modem.

>Plus there's no demand for mods on a cucked machine
Someone already proposed an idea. When someone with real need look into this they'll try.

Anyway worst case I guess a SATAe to M2 converter could be used.

>>56612130
>>56611732
So I bought a lemon then? anything I can do?

>>56612634

Go die in gutter faggot

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Holy fuck, why couldn't they fit 3G antenna in WXGA+ X201s? There is a plenty of space in there.

Anyway, any ideas how to fit it in there? Remove one wifi antenna and two middle screw mounts (I know I'll need to remove some bits from the front cover as well)?

>>56612478
Have you ever taken a laptop apart? Roughly 99% of all manufacturers do this. It's cheap, it works and (good for tinkerers) easy to remove and replace if need be.
There is literally nothing wrong with using good ol' tape to keep wires inside the laptop in place.

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I kinda am tired of my x220T. It is an AWESOME laptop and I love it very dearly, but it doesn't get through a full day on a charge for me now since I spend all day on campus. I can probably get an OEM six sell and that would probably get it up to 5 or 6 hours, but I think come Christmas it might be time for a new laptop for me.

What are my options? I'd like something without a 16:9 resolution but I know that isn't a thing except on Apples. Was thinking of either a surface tablet to complement my x220T or an x260

>>56612983
Well I mean a used x250/x260 somewhere in that line.

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>>56612808
Maybe I should put them in there. Look how well they fit.

>>56612983
X260 is decent.
Non 16:9 there's the chromebook pixel 2. Can't think of anything else.

>>56613014
Damn those chromebook pixel 2s are a damn fine looking machine considering they can run loonix. Shame they would burn a hole in my pocket.

Looks like they discontinued them just recently.

>>56613077
Used are about $500.
Specs are pretty good EXCEPT you only get 64GB max. There's no way to increase it without an external device.

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PSA if you use a 2.5" caddy and you're having problems with shutting down try this.
First check for a dip switch on the caddy itself, if there isn't one or it doesn't work put electrical tape over the 3rd SATA pin.

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dell latitude d420 checking in
any chance of getting a decent new battery? current one is dieded

>>56613089
Man that storage thing is disappointing. I would snatch one up in a heartbeat but only 64 gb? Maybe if it comes down a bit more (i only use 64 gb for my linux partition anyways) but that's still disappointing.

Still, it's not a bad choice if I can find one. I'll look into it cheers anon

>>56613228
I think it has an SD slot. In that case expanding it with a 128GB card may be an acceptable workaround if you don't care much for speed. A UHS class 3 card should be fine.

>>56611268
They update it every two years.
X200 and X201 have the same chassis
X220 and X230 have the same chassis
X240 and X250 have the same chassis
The X260 is different.

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>>56612983
>>56613014

>16:9

JUST FUCK UP MY VERTICAL HEIGHT SENPAI

>>56613274
Actually the X260 is identical except the VGA port and one USB port

>>56613295
Really? Lenovo cutting corners again, fucks sake.

>>56613285
Yeah, if only it was about vertical width or horizontal height, it would be okay.

>>56613299
VGA deserves to die so that's OK. New Intel GPU doesn't support it anyway.

should I stock up on __20 and __30 model thinkpads?
or should I get ready to switch from thinkpads to using dell latitudes or hp elitebooks?

the newer thinkpads in the 50 and 60 series have amazing hardware and battery life, but lenovo is taking things down a road I don't like. soldered ram, and less functionality by removing keys/buttons

>>56612509
Much cheaper but only if you don't value your time at all

>>56613248
Oh hey that could work out. I usually only store shit like pictures and the likes on my secondary storage. I bet a good SD card would be alright. I would just worry about long term storage I suppose. But 128 gb total is more than enough for a laptop like that since I keep all my busy stuff on an external.

>>56613285
Personally I'm not in the 4:3 camp. More in the 16:10 camp. Goes a long way when we are dealing with sizes like this.

I'd love to give a shot with 3:2 though.

>>56613406
You might want to stock up on spare parts, not necessarily whole computers.

Batteries, RAM, maybe even motherboards.

>>56613406
If you're not needing it for something time critical, you can wait for the thinkpad classic which should be 16:10

>>56613417
3:2 is the most awesome aspect ratio but sadly only (((Google))) offers that

>>56613444
Well the surface pro 3 has that aspect ratio too, but at the cost of really shitty hardware. I wouldn't mind one though.

I hear mixed things on the battery life though.

>>56612808
Actually, do I need both 3G antennas or is it like in wifi where having more antennas just makes it go faster? Do I have to keep some distance between antennas?

>>56613436
good idea, thanks

>>56613444
i didn't know the thinkpad classic was real, i thought it was just a theoretical fan service?

Will X220 hold up three years from now?
It's already getting dated in my eyes and I can't believe there are still people selling them at $400.

>>56613611
I do think so, but don't expect to be gaming or doing graphically intensive work on it

that isn't necessarily a bad thing though. unless you're a 3d artist or something, what more do you need a computer to do than browse the web, open files, and playback media?

even today, I still find myself impressed with the practicality, functionality, and speed of the thinkpad. It is truly a shame they had to ruin it

>>56613611
Other anon hits it on the head.

If you are in the market for a laptop it's still an okay choice. I got my tablet model for 185. Just had to clean off the lid with some goo b gone, then spent 100 in upgrades.

My only real complaint is the battery is mediocre compared to others but if you aren't doing a lot of things where you don't mind bringing a cord when out for more than 4 or 5 hours then I think it's awesome.

The tablet is kind of a heavy fucker though.

>tfw my coworker's third windows laptop just fried
>tfw my X60 from 2006 is still going strong with Linux
Maximum smug-comfy.

Can someone please tell me WTF is going on with my T420?

Every few seconds the sound get's fucked up and sounds low-pass filtered and really compressed. This starts and stops every few seconds.

Yes I tried different headphones etc.

Is my sound card fucked?

>>56613550
>i thought it was just a theoretical fan service?
Don't let him get your hopes up

How do I maximize the battery life of my x201 running linux? Also, is there a way to check the health of the battery I got with the laptop?

are thinkpads really so rare in usa? at my polytechnic (poland) tons of people use them, im my last lab group i think about 25 out of 30 people had thinkpads, most older models. and we never ever had any lenovo college programs with discounts.

>>56614065
Poland might have a lot more companies that "upgrade" their infrastructure and sell their old thinkpads to used goods retailers or the used goods retailers are closer to more local tech companies.

>>56614065
My guess is that it varies from country to country. Most privately owned business laptops (Thinkpads, Elitebooks, Latitudes) are 2nd hand ones from companies etc. and what brand the companies chose depends on the service(s) offered which, I guess, vary from country to country (also, skills of the salesman).
Eg. here in Denmark I can't remember seeing a company going with Lenovo. Only seen Dell and HP.

>>56612090


Does the x220 have UEFI boot?

If so, you can try formatting the USB volume to FAT32, and extracting the files from the iso into it.

If not, have you tried dd'ing into the USB? Is thee such option in windows?

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>>56611317
Knew I saw that pic before
Been a hwile

>>56614240
>tfw 21
>tfw this pic is true

>>56613967
Look at sound settings there is some retarded new tick box sometimes.

>>56614145
nah, our post-leasing second hand thinkpad market is really shit compared to normal ebay and usa, you can hardly find anything and if you do its much more expensive.

Which one has better screen?
T400 or T420?

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What's the cheapest Thinkpad I could use as a media server?

>>56614418
>using a laptop as a server

>>56614418
Why would you do that?

Bought a x220i for £100

Did I fuck up?

It's pretty much all I could afford.

What are opinions on L series?
Been thinkig about getting the L450 it looks pretty nice

>>56614418
iMac G5

>>56614406

t420 has a 1600x900 that you can swap in. If you're looking for a good screen, go to the t5xx series. They max out at 1920x1080.

>>56614470
Read the OP

>>56614508
I meant better as in better looking, not bigger resolution.

>>56614529
I dont see opinions about the L series
What do you want me to read

>>56614539

If screen quality is a deciding factor, I'm not sure you're going to be happy with any ThinkPad. I've heard the t420s FHD conversion screen is good.

>>56614556
>>56609661
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

>>56614556
Read the op
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

Thinking of falling for the X220 meme lads, about how long would a new battery last and is the tabet hybrid worth it?

>>56614447
Thinkpads get my dick hard
Built in keyboard and screen
Small footprint

>>56614587
>>56614592
>What are opinions on L series
Xsauc actually also thinks the sandybridge L series are "decent"
I am asking for opinions maybe from experience here. chill out retards

>>56614676
That's just it
The L series is an alright laptop
But don't come to this thread whinging when it shits on you or it doesn't have the qualities we rave about on here

>>56614727
Sorry if it hurts you mr autizmo cry some more

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Those are antennas in the expresscard slot. I thought I should at least isolate them from the expresscard frame, but they just werk. I'm not sure if I should leave them here or remove two screw sockets near wifi antennas and stick them in there.

>>56614676
>Calling us retards
>Can't even read

;)

>>56614676
who gives a fuck about this autistic trap?

Anyone else ran into an issue where the upper 2 mouse buttons both act as mouse3 (middle mouse) instead of their proper buttons? My X220 has no such problem but my T520... I have to use the lower buttons which is frustrating.

>>56614767
>Cries when we don't literally spoonfeed him
>calls other people autistic

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Hey all.

Looking for a Thinkpad no more than ~4 years old. Want to have both Windows 7 and 10 on it (preferably on two separate SSD, but could partition if I need to). Need it to be able to run that Halo 5 Forge mode for Windows 10. Will post those min and recommended specs in next post. Was thinking a T series so carrying it around Uni wouldn't be a pain but the extra weight of a W wouldn't bother me. Screen size isn't too important. Keyboard doesn't matter much as I have an IBM Model M SSK that I will be using. Would like to spend not much more than $500, but could go up to $700.Thanks fa/g/gots.

>>56614826
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>>56614796
>I cant even read
Ftfy
>>56614801
K
>>56614812
Its a simple question answer or ignore. dont act all stupid because I am not touching the t420 x220 dick for a fucking second.

>>56614942
Allow me to chime in on the conversation.

>Its a simple question answer or ignore
The anon answered, he said
>Read the OP
There you have it. Nothing more. So stop acting all stupid and take the answer or leave, ignoring it.

>>56614978
Wow didnt see that thanks man wow you reaaly helped. I didnt mean answer the question instead of answer with whatever or other fucking shit I didnt ask.
Thanks! My bad

>>56615005
>being this entitled

Do you want to be an entitled cunt and pampered with an answer that you WANT to hear but is WRONG and BAD counsel?

Very well. The L series laptops are great. They're the absolute best. Spend all your money on it.

There, happy? Now let's continue the thread.

>>56612109
220 max

>>56615040
Is it really so hard for you to understand?
I had a question
If you dont have an answer
Ignore

I am not here expecting people to say something because I know how superiour the t, x, w series are. I would be alright with no fucking answers. I was hust curious if someone had any opinions about it.
This could have been done if you guys just think. retard

>>56615130
>Is it really so hard for you to understand?
No it isn't, you had a question, people answered with "read the op", which is completely valid and a great answer.

Now, be more specific with your questions next time.

>>56615146
Or you are baiting me good and hard and I am taking it so hard or you are 12

>>56615130
>>56615005
>>56614767
>>56614676
you are morally obligated to kys for even having considered a L-series, so as not to corrupt the gene pool further

I am sorry it had to come to this, but the punishment still stands. You should be able to get a rope at any hardware store.

See you on the other side, old friend

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Okay, I finally made room for the antennas. I noticed they are usually attached to some metal foil, does it matter or can I attach them with any tape?

>>56615268
What are you doing?
x201s?

Does anyone here know of a good SATA to USB3.0 adapter.
All the ones I bought from ebay were chink shit with cold solders and brunt caps.

If i:
>use a t420 with quad core i7 2670qm which is more than enough for my needs
>don't give a shit about integrated graphics because muh eGPU setup
>Find backlit keyboard stupid
Is upgrading to a T430 worth it?

>>56615352
yes, because if you plan on relying totally on the iGPU, the intel hd 4000 was a huge improvement over the intel hd 3000

plus, t430 keyboard actually isn't that bad. It still has a very comfortable feel, and the keys are nice and sturdy. There is no shifting of the body like in the new laptops (x250, x260).

The bad thing about the t430 is the layout of the keyboard, but you get used to it.

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Honestly I feel like I've been meme'd by buying a thinkpad.

I got a T420 in near-mint cosmetic condition but I'm not seeing the so called "thinkpad build quality".

The screen flexes about 5mm if you press it when closed and makes creaking sounds.

The lid closed sensor is shitting out and from research isn't easy to replace (thinkpads are easily serviceable r-right?)

There is about 2-3 degrees of wobble in the lid/hinges before the friction kicks in so it wobbles at the slightest movement.

When closed, there is a gap of about 1mm between lid and palmrest, so it constantly wobbles and makes noise.

The lid thumb latch doesn't always push the lid up enough to be able to open it with one hand and in one swift movement.

The battery has about 1-2mm of wobble but somehow still works.

Battery charging light flickers, suggesting it isn't getting a solid connection.

The trackpoint is jittery and inconsistent.

Why did you do this to me, /g/?

Are the newer thinkpads better?

>>56615429
Buy a pre-retina Macbook Pro if you want actual build quality. Newer thinkpads are even worse.

What benefits do I gain by using a docking station?
Will it add more juice to my dedicated graphics card?

>>56615329
Yeah. Just cut off two screw sockets and shifted one wifi antenna to the side.

>>56615402
>yes, because if you plan on relying totally on the iGPU, the intel hd 4000 was a huge improvement over the intel hd 3000
But i said I don't give a shit about the iGPU, I'm using eGPU.

The change of keyboard layout isn't a big deal, I'm mostly looking for some upgrades or new features on the t430 compared to the t420 so i can justify selling my t420, buying a t430 and maxing it. Seems like the screens are somewhat the same, no new features and can't use china batteries which is a huge dealbreaker for me.

>>56614802
help

>>56615490
Lets you use your laptop as a desktop.

>>56615329
Duh, and to actually answer the first question, mounting 3G antennas.

>>56609956
>lot of power, run hot, and cause a lot of system interrupts.
I only use mine when plugged to a wall outlet but judging by the 2nd being true I assume it does, it gets really hot not burning your hands hot but hot enough to feel warm around the area on the palmrest over it. The last part is not true for me at all, its a bit glitchy in the sense that I have to unplug the whole card when I finish using something or else the system halts to a crawl if I unplug the device but leave the card on. Other than that there are no system interrupts when in use and I've left my hard drives plugged in for days. I use a Renesas controller based Transcend card.

>>56615661
>the system halts to a crawl if I unplug the device but leave the card on.
Happened to me with my T420 too. Turn off pci express power management in bios, you're welcome.

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What model is this?

>>56614283
No it's not, don't be retarded

>>56614539
Check if the screen is IPS or VA(good) or only TN (most of the time bad)
Check the model you want on notebookcheck.net and similar sites

>>56615787
x1 carbon

>>56614676
He also thinks apple hardware is good

Did I get fucked /g/?

I bought a w520 with a quadro 1000m dedicated gpu.
I don't give two shits about gaming, I just installed windows 7 and some games to see how the gpu performs.
I installed the optimus drivers from the lenovo website and directx 11.

And it's shit. I can barely play Mafia II with more than 15 fps on a 1600x800 resolution.
They say here that they had 25 avg fps with 1080p res http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-1000M.47317.0.html
I tried the unigine benchmark with the same settings as on that website and I got 4 fps at most (they got 10.1 avg)
This fucker claims he can play GTA 5 with the same gpu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdEEM_RCWaM

I don't get it. Is the gpu somehow faulty?

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Here are sticked antennas along with sacrificed screw sockets. The cable management is now a little ugly since I put them just behind the LCD as otherwise the cables would be too short.

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>>56615454
>baiting him twice

>>56615871
What are you trying to accomplish?
Explain the project/mod!

>>56615732
It did the trick, thanks anon.

>>56615429
>Are the newer thinkpads better?
They are worse actually. Thinkpads have been shit since lenovo bought the brand, and they had hardware issues even before. Just like HP had with overheating compaqs

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>reapplied thermal paste in T60p and replaced GPU thermal pad with paste and bent heatsink down a bit
>temps are still utter shit even during light web browsing
Goddamn it

>>56615912
So you're telling me if I was to buy a t60 or x60 or something like that the screen wouldn't wobble or flex at all, the battery wouldn't be loose at all, and none of the other things I mentioned would exist?

>>56615956
No, but you'd have even worse problems since those machines were in use for almost 10 years now
My T60 as an example has dust in the LCD panes and shows broken lines when I move the screen. Battery is also fucked

>>56615982
*panel

>>56615808
you don't know how autistic I can be

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Okay, it all fits together.

>>56615885
Sticking X201 3G antennas into X201s. Removed two screw sockets and shifted one wifi antenna a little to the side to make place for them. I did make a few posts earlier but forgot that people don't monitor the thread all day. I could've linked them.

How do I check if I have an IPS panel?
The colors seem to have more contrast than in my previous laptop and are the same from all viewing angles.
Is that enough to know?

>>56616046
Check this
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php
If you notice no color changes while moving it's probably IPS

>>56615549
What does this even mean?

>>56616035
I doesn't come with them? My x230 sure did. What WWAN card are you using?

>>56616046
>>56616070
Also look at the bottom of the page for an example of how it's not supposed to look like

>>56615954
>60
That's what my T520 gets when doing light web browsing too, though the fans are off at these temps. Do your fans run loud?

>>56615954
>bent heatsink down a bit
I can see that, the temperatures are amazing (37 to 43 degrees on all cores and iGPU) exceot on one core. Bending that shit probably made sure that the heatsink wasn't properly seated on top of the CPU.

>>56616103
>Do your fans run loud?
At medium. When I run them at max using TPFancontrol I get a few degrees lower temps, but the GPU is always at least 65C

>>56616073
You plug your monitor, ethernet, peripherals and shit to the dock and then you put the thinkpad on the dock.

>>56616085
Nah, X201s with WXGA+ screens never had WWAN. There isn't enough space because someone decided to put screws so that you couldn't mount antennas (actually if they were just slightly shifted to the sides it would be fine). It however has a SIM slot since WXGA models did have WWAN so it's only matter of mounting a card and antennas. The card is Gobi 2000.

>>56616133
What iGPU? This thing has an ATI card

>>56616046
Check the code under your thinkpad (TYPE-XXXX-XXX) it will tell you if it uses IPS or TN.

Fucking clover, im not banned.

>>56615864
Can someone please answer this?
How good is the quadro 1000m supposed to be?
I can't even play skyrim with more than 15 fps.

>>56616213
Make sure you're using geforce mobile drivers with that
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-1000M.47317.0.html

>>56616164
That's fucking retarded, idiot chinks.

>>56616175
Sorry, then that fifth temperature reading must be something else, maybe the board temp?

>>56616264
>Sorry, then that fifth temperature reading must be something else, maybe the board temp?
Almost all are ambient temps except the third, which is supposed to be the GPU

>>56616164
Is there a way to tell if a thinkpad has wwan capabilities without cracking it open?

>>56616209
T-mobile is range-banned for some reason

>>56611322
>e7270
>820 G3

>ulv CPUs
>no dGPU
>single, internal battery
Fucking trash.

>>56613150
>Plastic hinges
>no middle mouse button
>shitt key types
>16:9

>>56616315
I'm using my university internet, i can post just fine from the browser but when i try to use clover i get the glitched banned message.

>>56615429
Get a X60

>>56616249
I'll try installing the quadro 1000m driver from nvidia.
Is that going to conflict somehow with the optimus driver I downloaded from lenovo?

>>56616371
it'll have 10 years of wear and tear though so it won't be any better. Plus it'll be too slow probably.

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>check out dell laptops
>then remember that they have the shitty ALPS touchpad

my X230 has some sound issues on Win7 (havent tested on other OS yet).
I turn off the system it works. Sometime later it doesnt, there is just no sound, its not muted. I can close the cover so it goes into the sleep mode, open it again and sound works. What do?

>>56614566
The new IPS screens aren't bad

>>56614826
4 3 0

>>56615912
>>56615454
Stop being autistic.
>>56615429
I actually own a newer thinkpad AND some older ones. The new T series are good as is the P series (though the price of the P70 makes no fucking snese). I personally use my P50s as my daily driver. I consider the T430 the best older ThinkPad.

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>that one cable going over the SSD
Oh well, it werks.

>>56616298
I think you can do that by checking the model number, but don't know how exactly.

>>56616588
What's even the difference between P and T models now?

>>56616588
old meaning older than t440? Have you ever used t60/t61-era thinkpads? How do they compare?

>>56616628
It's a different line?

The new P was the old W series. W doesn't exist anymore, it's W now.

>>56616634
Sorry, I haven't used anything older than the 00 series in quite a while (don't own one anymore). If you're going to go for a daily driver, I'd say the xx30 is the oldest you'd want unless you do very light Linux computing (or maybe wangblows XP).

>>56615954
>bent heatsink down a bit
I don't have a T60p but im curious about this, what exactly did you do? did you bend the part that makes contact with the gpu or the heatpipe?

>>56616680
well my main complaint was that the build quality of the T420 wasn't up to the standard I expected. As I understand the T430 is basically the same except for the CPU/motherboard etc. I guess I'll need to try to find some other models in shops to compare them.

>>56616680
It's P now*

>>56616728
There's usually a really crappy thermal pad between the GPU and heatsink, I removed that and bent the whole thing that's on the GPU down a bit

>>56616745
u got a shit laptop thats it, my t420 is fine.

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>>56616601
Wheww, I'm done.

>>56616942

Hope you got enough ram in that 201s for KDE, mate.

>>56617028
Sure I do. Got 8GiB so I could run Opera as well.

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X220:

Is it possible to get a Whitelist Removed BIOS mod, and stick any WWAN card (Such as Sierra Wireless MC7430 WWAN module) into the x220?

Or is it that x220 wire antennas are only compatible with certain 3g frequencies?

>>56617225
yes you can de whitelist it
and I'dd assume that it would work with anything, but I haven't tested it.
try it out and tell me if it works well, especially if you have t mobile

Why are x201 so expensive?

>>56617285
I will report back - however I am with Telstra and their ultra-rare/very new b28(700mhz) frequency.

>>56617336
well that's perfect, because t mobile is rolling out band 12 (also 700mhz) around the US

>>56615429
i have none of these problems im my newly bought t420. also you have to lower the sensivity and get used to the trackpoint to get the hang of it.

>>56616942
>kde
have mercy on that machine man

>>56617028
>>56617143
>>56616942
>tfw running KDE on an x201 with 4GB of RAM
do y'all even computer?

>>56617329
they're not though

I've been on FreeBSD for the last two weeks on my T400.

Still have to fix intermittent WiFi issues, sleep and get the ATI graphics shit working, but since I'm using this mostly for productivity and shitposting, this is by far the MOST comfy OS.

Ask me for help if you need to. Can't wait to get a T9900 + 8GB ram + SSD. This machine is going to be a beast.

>>56615429
Trackpoint sucks unless you have some reason that you can't use the trackpad.

I'm not sure anything else you listed is an actual problem. The battery light only blinks when you switch to AC, it doesn't flicker ever.

>>56617762
>Trackpoint sucks unless you have some reason that you can't use the trackpad.
Actually if you have a genuine keyboard/trackpoint, the trackpoint is awesome. If you have a plastic trackpoint rather than a rubber one I could understand why you don't like it.

Most of the time I have the trackpad disabled. It's worthless. I love the trackpoint because I know I can keep my hands on the keyboard all the time and still have access to the mouse.

It's a superior experience to anything else.

>>56617762
I always used the trackpad on other laptops and I was proficient with it.

It only took me one day of using my x230 to disable the fucking trackpad on the BIOS.

It doesn't even compare. And the trackpad itself, when compared with trackpads in other laptops is not bad at all.

>>56614676
My gf has a L460 and it seems pretty nice and comfy enough. Allright for all sorts of basic use and maybe a bit more like running some code etc. Not much more to say, its sturdy and comfy, nice overall for the price, but not as built / premium feel as x / t series

I recently got a T420s, and I love it. Only problem is, under load, the battery life WITH the ultrabay battery is supposedly only going to last about 2 hours according to Fedora 24. Anything I can do to make it better? It has 6gb ram, i5 2520m, and the 180 gb intel ssd.

>>56617929
Thank you for a normal answer. I can work with this.

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>>56613819
Question, also to any X60/X61/tablet owners

Would be for linux

Can it play back youtube at 720p no problem?
Can it play back youtube 720p60?
Can it decode 720p Hi10p anime?
Can it playback 1080p video files?
Can it stream twitch.tv (in html or java)?

How well does a gba emulator run?
How well does an n64 emulator run, if at all?
With an SSD, do word and excel documents open up well or is it quite slow?
How long does the battery last?
How hot does it get?
How does the build compare with an X200/X201 and the X220/X230
How does the keyboard compare with the X200/X201 and X220/X230
How is the screen?
Any significant differences between normal and tablet versions (such as glue in screen, ghosting, higher res on tablets being better, viewing angles, build quality)?

Wanting to get an X60/X60t/X61/X61t, not sure which one or if it even matters, and I'm wondering what they can do

Thanks

>>56617978
I get 4-5h under Xubuntu with my 9-cell on a x230.
Windows gives me 8h.

Maybe you have spent batteries?

Anyway, search for "tlp" on google, read about it and install it. Easily gives you an extra 30mins/1h.

>>56618073
Basically its a entry-level thinkpad but it still holds up pretty good. Dont expect the same durability or upgradeability or enterprise solutions. To sum it up it looks and feels like a "lighter" / consumer / "basic" version Thinkpad with some cheaper and lighter materials, but still manages to feel well built.

I would recommend you to find somewhere with both L and T series so you can hands-on compare them before purchase.

is there place that international ships t60 or x60's? Where I live apperantly never had x60's and I need a new keyboard for t60's I found.

>>56617444
But it looks pretty and werks fine.

>>56618637
Just install LxQT then.
It's an extremely lightweight KDE distro, basically LXDE+KDE.

>>56618225
just checked, my main battery has a 65% capacity so that's pretty fucked

>>56616942
>KDE
Comfy as fuck

>>56618218
>720p
No
>720p@60
Kinda
>animu
No.
>1080
Barely, no high bitrate stuff.
>twitch
Why it wouldnt?

Perfect.
Same too.

Just no PS1/PS2/Cube-Wii

A high end one?
If you can flash the BIOS to get SATA2 really fast.
Unless you do something heavy or that needs a good IGPU you wont see a big difference for simple stuff.
>Screen
Acceptable, x220-x230 have really good screens for the fact they are IPS.
Ghosting, and viewing angles because TN vs IPS.

Do you really need a tablet?

>>56619508
>720p
>No
>720@60
>Kinda
Wth?

>>56619508
Thanks a bunch

Just one thing that confuses me

>720p youtube is a no, but 720p at 60fps kinda works
Shouldnt 720p60 be more of a struggle than 720p?
If it can't do HD youtube, how can it do HD twitch?
Can that machine do any video playback?

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>>56619148
Still on my original 9 cell that came with my T530 in 2012 and I'm at 83% capacity.

>>56619148
>>56619653
My x230's 9cell is the original one and has 76% capacity.

>>56619551
>>56619558
I mean that you can play 720p easy but you will have problems with 720p@60FPS.

You will have problems playing stuff at source quality.

Try getting a X220 and you will be able to do everything you want.

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So, lads, someone posted this ITT yesterday:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182281812704
Shall I? Looks like a fairly good deal.
If not, please suggest some good T420/X220 deals up right now for me. Thanks.

>>56619919
>wanting something which was handled by an actual retard

lol

that picture of the front case alone says enough.
look, anything you buy used is going to have cosmetic blemishes and scratches, but they will be MINOR.

this isn't even about aesthetic appeal. just stop to consider this for a moment: if this person handles their possessions like this, would you want to own something they used? would you want to know how many times they came straight onto the keyboard, rather than directing their blasts towards a tissue or something?

>>56612295

You can get some decent deals with a bit of patience, especially second-it-store has some good offers.

I picked up a T420 in almost mint condition with 1600x900 screen, i5, 8GB RAM and 160GB SSD for 220€.

Not as good as some of the US deals but better than paying taxes and crazy shipping costs.

Good luck finding one!

>>56619653
That's nice, could you share that bg?

>>56620076
>would you want to know how many times they came straight onto the keyboard, rather than directing their blasts towards a tissue or something?
>implying thats not a feature

>>56619919
>>56620076

What about these?

>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-12-5-Inch-320GB-Intel-Core-i5-2nd-Gen-2-5GHz-4GB-NO-OS-/152242880174?hash=item237261feae:g:NPMAAOSw8gVX2rnC#rwid

>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Refurbished-Lenovo-T420-4GB-I5-2520m-CPU-2-50GHZ-300HD-10-PRO-NO-POWER-CABLE-/182276041623?hash=item2a707fab97:g:3pEAAOSwOdpXzwZm

>>56620578
kek

I am starting my senior year of high school right now and I am looking for a solid laptop I can take to college with me. my starting budget 1000 and I can go to anything around 1500. I am applying as a Computer Science major with an alt major of mechanical engineering. If anyone has any advice for what kind of laptops are good for college please lmk. Also if you think I should wait for the next generation of Intel chips lmk as well because if I needed to wait I could go without a laptop for a while, or just buy a cheap one to last me til the new generations! I would also like this laptop to last me through all 4 years of college so I do not mind spending a little more money if I need to. I would prefer a 15 in screen,

>>56620688
Get a Thinkpad G40. Almost impossible to find something as solid.

>>56620586
i would get the x220

but not that t420, it is kind of beat too. i mean its not in horrible condition, but instead of dropping the money on a new sticker, case parts, etc, just drop $140 to $175 on one in a decent condition. I know cash can be tough at times man, but surely you have a job, right?

its never good to cheap out on something that you will be using daily. I spent $200 on my t430 that came to me in pristine condition from a refurber, the only work it needed was a new SSD, but even then it didn't "need" a new one, as it had a 2013 ssd with 128gbs that worked just fine.

>>56620688
>>56620723
while a g40 is truly solid, you don't want to be using a pentium again man

get a T400

I need something that can run things like Autocad and detailed code I dont mind spending a lot of money just what do you guys think?

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>>56620744
I've posted same thing ITT before, but since you're giving away such advice, I might as well ask.

I'm currently looking as a non-daily thinkpad (but still very operational). Budget max is at around $160 (if I need some upgrades, I'll either include them in this price or hold on and use whatever I have for a bit and then upgrade it). I could save up a bit more, but I don't really see a reason to; I'm probably not going to use it for much else besides some work and basic desktop stuff whenever I'm away from my desktop. I've never owned a thinkpad before, but I wanted one for some time. Probably going to load up

Also, that x220 is using stock photos, so there's no way to know if it's better.

EPP is down again

Poverty tier lenovo lover here Trying to keep my old T61 going for as long as possilbe (for I cannot afford anything else) but I got keyboard (FRU: 42T3209) problems.

The "T" key has gone crap on me, only working under a heavy, direct press to the center of the key. I've canned air the hell out of it, but it looks like the loss of sensitivity is in the keyboard cup itself.

Anything I can do about that (can the cups be replaced indivually?) and if not are the cheap used keyboards on eBay legit, or are there counterfeits running around?

Love the feel don't want to give it up. Don't want to waste money either.

>>56620854
>never owned a thinkpad before

ohshitniggerwhatareyoudoing.exe

I have a $600+ desktop, but after I got my t430 I've started using it exclusively

I only use the desktop for homework, and even then sometimes I do it from my laptop. Switching to a thinkpad was the best decision i've ever made (regarding computing of course), not even trolling.
All the power, functionality of a desktop packed into one package, its fucking amazing

>>56620940
Open the key.
Apply graphite directly on the contacts.

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>>56621001
Hm, alright. My desktop is around $600, but I've heard about the magical powers of the Thinkpad.
Anyway, I still need help with picking a deal. I'm just somewhat lost in all of the deals to really understand what exactly I should look for right now with my circumstances (although I don't think I can screw up that much with a thinkpad)

>>56621088
you'll want something from the __20 or __30 series, as they are the best made before lenovo fucked up the thinkpad design

If a t430 or t530, look to spend anywhere from $180 to $220

if t420 t520, anywhere from $140 to $180 at most

look, there isn't a really a process or anything, just look around, make sure you aren't getting jewed. i would recommend buying from a refurber though, saves you the trouble of having to put in the upgrades yourself and wait for it.

i've found that smaller refurbers put in more time into their models they sell much more so than bigger guys. the seller with a few laptops for sale is likely to give you better service than the guy with 300+ items for sale

>>56621192
Alright, thanks. I bumped up my price point from low 100s to $140-$160 and saw a big difference.
Found 2 pretty good deals:
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Laptop-w-i5-2520m-2-50GHz-4GB-RAM-320GB-HD-/201667350305?hash=item2ef44f8f21:g:kkEAAOSwAuZX1u-R
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-T420-2-6ghz-Core-i5-6GB-320gb-14-dvdrw-WIN7PRO-Great-Condition-/252527570550?hash=item3acbd0ee76:g:YsoAAOSw9IpXziIw
What do you think?

>>56621051
Am I being rused

>>56621337
graphite can carry electricity.
If you apply graphite to the cup contact, it will make a better electrical connection.

The problem is 99% an electrical connection problem, caused by use.

This solution is not eternal, but you can do it once every 6 months or so and it will be fine.

>>56621001
>Switching to a thinkpad was the best decision i've ever made
Same here. Sold my desktop, upgraded my T420 to a quad core and kept the GPU + Monitor for an eGPU setup. Add the docking station and you got a pretty nice desktop-laptop hybrid.

>>56621365
Ok but I'm a bit wary about getting under the cup to begin with, it doesn't look like it was intended to be serviceable, I can get that back on?

>>56621388
I don't know, I never serviced a thinkpad keyboard.

What I said works with every membrane keyboard though.

>>56621435
The old lenovo keyboards are Scissor-switch. You can't access the membrane directly without removing the overlying dome first. I can't find any documentation that says that people ever remove the domes, so I'm wary that if I take it off it won't be going back on.

>>56621332
those are both much, much better

the t420 looks in better condition, but the top seems more scratched, or maybe its just dirty

either one of those, i would get

>>56621369
I'd love to do the eGPU thing, I just don't really have a place to set up one all comfy style.
>>56621531
Scary. You can always buy a whole keyboard though

>>56611957
>(You)
Highly durable, best keyboard, trackpoint, cheap for their specs, aesthetics, Linux.
>>56612101
nice webcam sticker lmao
>>56612509
The shekels go to pay for the Libreboot lead dev tranny's hormones.
>>56613285
Sold my X60s if only because it had a 4:3 screen and short backspace. Mainly short backspace, can't do it.
>>56615352
>eGPU setup
what is this meme
>>56615864
>>56616213
>>56616249
Quadros are known poor gaming parts compared to their GeForce equivalents. Other than that I don't really know
>>56616588
Island keyboard tho
>>56618218
>1080p
No.
>Twitch
use mpv friend
>N64
probably not, although I don't really know. I did have Project64 running on a 2004 PC once, so you never know...
>>56621001
>>56621369
lmao same

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>>56611322
>I hope they unfuck the X series in the new generation

I hope so too.

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/CES-2016/ThinkPad-Retro-project-status/m-p/2244552#M99

>>56621542
I want to pick up the t420, but I feel a bit afraid since the guy is selling it as is and without a return policy. How big the chance that the seller will ship me something bad?

>>56621813
>The shekels go to pay for the Libreboot lead dev tranny's hormones.
People are going to think this is a joke, but it isn't. lel

>>56621944
If he ain't at least offering a DoA promise I wouldn't trust him

>>56621952
I long for the days tech wasn't so pozzed.

>>56621955
Alright then. I'm not in the mood for intense detail-searching, so I'll just go with the 2nd option.
Thanks, anon. Gonna pick up that x220 today. A bit out of budget due to the charger, but it will probably be worth it in the end.

>>56621813
>Island keyboard tho
At the risk of causing undue asspain ITT, I think the island keys are fine now that i've used them for months. Can't say I like the aesthetics or the layout which take getting used to, but at least the travel and feedback on the T430 is now comfortable to me.

>>56621984
Got a hundred, hundred twenty guys that wish the same thing here senpai.

>>56621984
Identity politics, promoted by the bourgeoisie to defend themselves against class consciousness

>>56622063
Too bad the vast majority of the class conscious are pushing identity politics then. Comrade Sanders and Comrade Corbyn are both 100% on the diversity and multicult train. There old left is dead. They murdered the working class to lift up and import the sweaty brown masses.

Where should I look for a refurbished dankpad or elitebook with international shipping than won't ship me a box of bricks?

>>56622148
high rated ebay sellers

Arch or Debian on a T420?

>>56622254
Gentoo is a pretty significant performance boost over both of those.

>>56622264
I'd rather spend my time running my programs rather than compiling them

>>56622299
And here I was thinking you were human and went to sleep at night. Carry on Mr. AI, I hadn't been notified of your sentience. My apologies.

>>56622311
Lmfoa i'm not even >>56622254

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>>56614608
But that's fucking dumb. Laptops have awful CPUs and hardly any space for proper storage.
Get a 1U rack server (like a Dell Poweredge off of Ebay) and a 1U rack monitor/keyboard unit for the true server/trackpoint experience

>>56622264
Arch and Debian are plenty fast. T420 isn't that old you know. It's still a second gen i5

>>56622540
>he never installed gentoo
Trust me, you'll notice. Sandy isn't ancient, but it's no spring chicken either.

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>>56614418
You don't. This nigga is right. >>56622520

Just as thinkpads are great and cheap because they're business surplus, so too are rack servers

You can find a bid right now ending in a few hours for a Poweredge with two Xeon E5520s

CPUs get sold off as surplus a lot too so every so often a specific Xeon will be ridiculously cheap (Facebook recently offloaded tons of 8-core E5-2670's for example and they're going for $70)

There's never been a better time to do home servers the right way

>>56622687
>You can find a bid right now ending in a few hours for a Poweredge with two Xeon E5520s
I forgot to mention, this bid is only at $30 right now

I want to buy a t420, and put in an SSD.
Can I just google "laptop ssd", buy one, and throw it in there? Are there any special considerations I need to take into account?

>>56622747
A lot of SSDs are cheap shit that will die on you, as with all SSDs.

Just get a Samsung Evo 850 256GB for like $90

>>56622747

I had to buy a little cart/tray thingy to hold it properly off amazon. It wouldn't align properly without it.

this is for a t420 too.

>>56622790
>as with all SSDs.
Shit, meant to say as with all computer parts

>>56622747
850 EVO if you got the money.

ADATA SP550 for literally the cheapest but not fastest SSD.

>>56622747
I'd buy an msata SSD for a T420 so you can have 2 extra drives + the SSD for a total of three drives on your memepad.

Yes it's limited to SATA2 but you won't notice the difference between sata2 and sata3 in daily usage anyway.

>>56622687
>do home servers the right way
How do I get into servers?
Just install Debian Stable on some computer and set it up on a network?

>>56622858
Up to you.

I'd recommend Fedora though, it's Red Hat Enterprise Linux but without their company support

>>56622747
1- Buy KingDian
2- Dont worry about sizes, all SATA SSDs will fit on your laptops HDD slot.

>>56622891
Fuck, my bad, I meant CentOS

Fedora is RHEL but intended for regular desktop use

>>56622903
That's not quite accurate

Both CentOS and RHEL are based on Fedora

Fedora features go through a bunch of testing shit before they show up in RHEL, and CentOS is basically RHEL but not a paid subscription

>>56622891
>>56622903
>>56622942
>>56622687
Also, how much power would those things draw?
I imagine running Xeons would be pretty expensive
How easy is it to rent out server space?

>>56622858
Start with basic shit and work your way up.

First off you want file sharing, so learn how to Samba
Next since it's a media server, learn about media streaming, such as mpd

Another thing a lot of people use instead of linux is Plex, which is android-based but is basically an OS intended for media streaming servers

>>56622984
>Also, how much power would those things draw?
Not much more than a desktop really. Probably less desu. Most of the power supplies in the servers at work are only 300W ones. I bet it'll be a lot less than your average gaymen machine.

Server power draw is mostly a concern because people will be running dozens or hundreds of server racks and shit. For just one it's no biggie.

>How easy is it to rent out server space?
Pretty easy but that's more the thing to do if you want to host webservers with minimal money. You wouldn't want that for a for a home media server.

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Is ubuntu a decent choice for a thinkpad? I'm a non-veteran Linux user, haven't used anything else for as long as ubuntu. I'm currently considering ubuntumate or xubuntu.

>>56622858
FreeNAS if you want to learn the hard way. Just be wary that you'll need a lot of ram for it (1GB per 1TB of drive storage).

>>56623053
>Pretty easy but that's more the thing to do if you want to host webservers with minimal money. You wouldn't want that for a for a home media server.
Just thinking big senpai

>>56623136
Personally I think renting just isn't as fun. It's nice to have it all under your fingertips, to be in total control, rather than fighting the web host's other clients for resources.

>>56622858
>How do I get into servers?
This could be a /g/ thread of its own.

FreeNAS and PLEX are the biggest things a lot of people use. FreeNAS is the OS and handles shared files and drives, and PLEX does the media streaming to basically any OS including Android phones and shit

>>56623161
I'm talking about MAKING money with the server, not paying someone else

>>56623217
You probably won't have the juice for that. Especially if you were going to run it off of a fucking Thinkpad previously.

How can I improve the battery life on my X220T? I'm using it for school so I need it to last most of a school day, and right now I feel like I'm getting something like 2.5/3hrs. I'm on Windows 10 if that helps.

>>56623094
I run Ubuntu/Unity on a T430 i5/8gb and it runs smoothly.

>>56623246
>windows
use lenovo's power manager and that's it.
>linux
powertop, tp_smapi and a tiny WM like i3. My battery is at half capacity and I get that much lifespan out of it.

>>56623228
Oh, I'm not the anon who asked the original question about the thinkpad
sorry :^)
Just wondered what use a pleb could do with an oldish server blade

Forgive my retarded question: So I got a refurbished T430 yesterday, and I decided to exlore a bit and install arch. I3 said yesterday that my batter ywas somehow charged at 105%. But today it's gone down to 103%.

Jesus does arch without much on it hurt my battery THIS much? How do I stop this shit?

>>56623094
Antergos.

w2c x200 batts?

>>56623568
May I ask why?

>>56623693
Rolling release, just works and no autismal installation.

>>56623727
I didn't mention this, but I'm probably gonna end up installing i3 on it anyway.
Either way, that doesn't sound too different from Ubuntu.

>>56618218
>ask about X60 and X61 video playback
>few hours later (right now) find good deal on ebay uk
>says it was updated just a few hours ago
>bottom of specs read in bold "Note: Plays 1080p and 720p (.mkv / streams) fine in VLC, but obviously the monitor is only 720p capable so 1080p is pointless."

I-is that someone from this thread? It's a really good deal, I might get it...

>>56622790
>>56622820
Is there any advantage to getting the 850 Pro over the 850 EVO? Better reliability, faster speed, etc?

I've been looking at a 500GB+ SSD for my W520, but I don't know if the 850 Pro is worth nearly a $100 premium over the 750 EVO.

>>56614539

w520 screen is the best one on color, but the 1080p one it also fits the t520

>>56614539
It is. The 520's screen has 95% gamut and way better viewing angles.

So, just out of curiosity, has anyone heard of a fan retrofit for the T420s? A fan that moves more air and is quieter would be amazing.

>>56624481
Pro has a ten year limited warranty.

Frankly I think SSD capacity is going to erupt in the next couple years thanks to 3d nand so it doesn't really matter. Bought a Crucial mx300 instead.

I asked this a few days ago, but got busy and lost track of the thread, so i dont know if it was answered.

Are parts from the x230t cross compatible with parts from the x220t? from what I understand, the chassis is the same, so aside from the keyboard difference, the motherboard should theoretically be transplantable. I want to put an x230t mainboard in my x220t. 2.7 GHZ isn't cutting it anymore. Is this possible?

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ok /tpg/ i want to buy a thinkpad but don't have $1,000 to spend on it what should i do??

>>56624481
750 evo is a old SSD, it is just as good as recent low end ssds.
Not really a good one.