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Will someone explain to my like I'm stupid why so many

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Will someone explain to my like I'm stupid why so many people hate on Java?
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No

Nobody particularly enjoys explaining things for the billionth time to stupid people who could just go learn about it themselves.
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It's a big problem when tons of work gets devoted completely to abstraction and unneeded complexity not related to the actual computation needed to get things done. Wrapper classes too.

use C or Lisp or something functional
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people don't want to download runtimes

it's associated with shitty guis
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>>56605865
Because it's not as good as their favorite language and yet it's still the most demanded and one of the best payed.
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>>56605865
it's popular
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https://github.com/groovy/groovy-core/blob/master/src/main/org/codehaus/groovy/runtime/ArrayUtil.java

this is why
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>>56605865
Simple.

It's one of few languages decidedly easier than C that only execute at most 50% slower. Scripted languages like python and perl are hundreds of times slower.

Because it obviously has advantages, everyone uses it and teaches it, meaning it's everywhere. Because 90% of programmers actually suck and shouldn't be programming, most of this shitty code is in java purely because it's a popular language.

When a shit programmer sees a lot of shit code in a language, because they're shit they're more likely to blame the language rather than the original developer or their own ability to decipher shit code. This is especially true if they disbelieve they're shit, like the majority of /g/.

>>56606695
This is an issue with the project design and senior developer's decisions, not the language.

Yes, sometimes shit developers end up in management or quasi management positions. This world is not meritocratic.
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>>56606757
It clearly explains why that exists.
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>>56605865
You can immediately discard the opinion of anyone you meet who is quick to bash a language. They are just regurgitating what has been said for years.

Java is fine.
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>>56605865
As soon as a language gets a reputation for being a good way to make money, shitty programmers flock to it and start writing shitty code in it.

After years of that, there becomes a culture of incompetence and stupidity that can't be avoided when working with the language. If you try to learn from blogs or open source code, odds are the info/code is garbage and not setting a good example.

I don't hate Java itself. I hate its ecosystem, its community, and the stupid idiotic things people do with it.
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>>56605865
String.upper.sideways.toInt.fromChar.print()
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