/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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>>56598581
>>56598609
I actually had a 750w in there originally. The 550 costed more because actually the 750w was only semi-modular.
I was recommended to move down to a 550 but that was before I upgraded to a 6600k, not that I really plan to overclock or anything.
At least not anytime soon.
Oh well, it was my first time, if push comes to shove I'll upgrade it in a few years.
I should be fine though right?

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>>56603285
I got 3 of the holes to fit but the last one is at an angle with the case screw hole so I could not fit that one in. Will this be okay?

>>56603500
loose the bottom 2 and line up the one not fitting

Sorry to be a faggot, but I haven't built a pc in like 8 years, and I could use some advice for a GPU (goal is 60fps @ 1440p).

What's the cheapest option out there? (benchmarks only look at 1-2 gens top, unfortunately).

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OK, I need to sum up how much WATTS my PSU needs to have support to. But in this sum, I need to take into account the power requirement of my motherboard. How to discover this? I already checked all the manual and I'm not very excited to look it all over again!!!

>>56603510
Is it okay if it doesn't touch the bottom then?

>>56603525
PC part picker calculates total wattage based on the parts you give it. Start a build and save it so you won't have to recalculate it.

>>56603519
1440p @60Hz is basically attainable with this current gen and the high end cards of last gen unless you try to do it woth sli, which at this point isn't worth it.
You would probably be well off with a completely inflated price of nvidia's two, non-titan, high end pascal cards, the gtx1070 and the gtx 1080.
For cpu you could stick to a nice i5 and be generally ok, or wait a few months for AMDs Zen processors, which are a bit of a wildcard right now.

>>56603561
yes, if you want put some cardboard/wellpap under it to give a little support in the other end.

>>56603519
A GTX 1070 will do that
An RX 480 should be able to do that
A GTX 1060 should be able to do that
A GTX 980ti should be able to do that

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casual computer im putting together for under 300 bucks. all the parts should be here by tomorrow

what do you guys think?

>>56603699
I know that it is just a little minipci or something removeable card when it comes with this motherboard,
but I do not know which chip model it is, or how to compare it with a regular pcie expansion card.
Do you know of anywhere that compares those sort of cards? If there is, then would the antennae affect performance at all?

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>>56603602
alright all the screws are in place now so I think it'll be okay to move on to the motherboard. Thanks anon and if there's anything I need to move then pls let me know

>>56603821
>already bought it
get out

>>56603769
The 480 and 1060 would likely struggle to maintain a constant 60fps without turning down some graphics settings.
I would imagine med/high settings would be okay, but not those "ultra" modes.

>>56603825
The antennae for minipcie is like 2 screw-on wires that you can hook to an adapter (antenna plugin), and I'm (almost) sure all minipcie cards are compatible
I mean if you're comparing it to PCIe or USB adapters it should be $20-40, but if I remember right minipcie wifis are crazy cheap
You can always go USB, I decided to because I only had one extra PCIe slot and PCI slot wifi cards seem to have problems with Windows 10
Wireless internet on a desktop should ALWAYS be a temporary thing anyways, you need to get that Ethernet cable plugged in sooner or later

>>56603519
If you want to play at max detail settings you'll need a GTX1070. GTX1060 and RX480 can do max details and 60 fps, but only at 1080p, so you'd have to reduce details a lot to get to 1440p. These are current gen cards, haven't looked at last gen cards.

>>56603880
The 1070 can hold up maxed 1440p games at 120+ fps
The 1060 and 480 are fighting between the 1080p 144fps and 1440p 60fps markets. I mean it probably won't hold flawless 1440p 60fps at absolute maximum everything settings, but turn down a few unecessary details and I feel like it might be fine. He is looking for the cheapest option and it is at least $200 cheaper than the 1070

>>56603821
>120GB total storage

>>56603889
Aside from the possible temporary need for wifi (my room during summers is not wired for etherney), I was thinking of leaving it in for bluetooth options as well. I heard you could use wiimote somehow via bluetooth for dolphin emulation controller.

Good point about the windows 10 thing though, I'll have to go check if anyone has problems with their current drivers on w10 for those cards.

>>56603933
Thanks for agreeing with my post.
I was just warning him incase he is enough of a graphics guzzler to be bothered by not absolutely maxxing out games at 1440p 60hz.

>>56603962
Remember I said PCI, not PCIe
I Can't find a single confirmation that a single PCI wifi card works with Windows 10, I see plenty of really bad problems with it and unanswered threads about it though

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Where do I find one of these?
I don't want the titan x so and SLI doesn't work for everything.. so no 1070x2,
What do? Are the other versions OK? This is the last thing I actually need to buy.

>>56604008
>buying PCI wifi in 2016
enjoy those shit tier speeds, high latency and packet loss.

>>56604019
>SLI doesnt work for everything
>Wants to buy a premade SLI config anyway
bruh

>>56604019
A 1080?
Anywhere, they're really good and can do 4K games at 30fps up to 60 maybe, as well as ANYTHING else
But I mean the 1070 can do anything except 4K also, and a lot cheaper

>>56604039
one of my only two expansion ports are PCI and of course desktop wifi is a temporary thing
Plus wifi cards cant even bottleneck USB 2.0

>>56604039
Using your PCIe 3.0 x8 slot for a PCIe x1 wifi card

>>56604039
I just want one, Sorry the one I moused over has x2..
>>56604060
I plan on doing a some video editing so it couldn't hurt to get a 1080,
The link says sold out, I kind of don't know what all of this means.
Are the other ones exactly the same? Just different companies manufactured them or is there some kind of significant difference?


Link to this particular model?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487244&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-LogicalIncrements.com%20Inc-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=5961731&SID=0

sold out

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>>56604111
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>>56604119
>Go to online computer store
>select GPU/graphics/video card
>type in 1080 or filter by "GTX 1080 GPU"
>sort by lowest price
>pick the dankest looking one
MSI, EVGA, gigabyte, asus, doesn't matter, you're really just deciding on the brand of heatsink and you can always manually overclock it (why stock overclocks costing extra money are dumb)

>>56604008
Ah okay.
Thanks for your help!
I think I'll probably go with the mATX build in that case.
Even if there turns out to be some sort of problem, as someone said, it is much easier to replace a pcie expansion card compared to the tightly packed pci chip nearly right against the i/o ports.

>>56603994

i usually turn shadows down to high or medium when it helps, or whatever options are the least visually-impacting

anyway thanks for the feedback, i'm hesitating between 480 and 1070

>>56604223
I would go with the 480 for the price/performance, but generally I think of both as a stopgap until 1440p @120hz or 2160p @60hz comes under $300.

>>56604223
1070 is more powerful and popular
480 is probably the best value of this GPU generation
The 1070 is in a different league than the 480 honestly
The hard decision is between 480 and a 1060, they're so similar in price and performance
you know all you need to, would you rather have 1440p maxed at 60fps or more? Or would you rather have 1440p almost maxed at 60fps + $200?

>>56604223
>hesitating between 480 and 1070
Join the club, I can't play games for shit without deciding
Both are great right now but I can't predict the future

>>56604175
Ok, thanks. Some of them I looked at were 200$ more,
They all had nearly the same specifications.
Chose the one that looked decent and was cheap.
meh

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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8drW3F I am really struggling finding a power supply please help me /g/ents. Also other general input is appreciated, however case and ssd cannot be changed because I already bought them.

>>56604008
Had one, didn't work

>>56604441
There's a seasonic mk2 modular bronze 620w for like $60ish? There's a shitload of great 550-650w PSUs for $80 gold rating is nice to have but really all you need is bronze or better. Don't get a non-80+ PSU and make sure to get a big brand one

>>56604441
Please tell me you already had the 8350. If not make sure you get one with the Wraith cooler if you don't have an aftermarket cooler

EVGA seems to have some pretty cheap PSUs, otherwise I see the Seasonic name bandied about

>>56604484
Thanks for confirming my thought that Windows 10 is garbage

>>56604539
It's for gaming and tablets

>>56604519
I was actually thinking of getting a cheaper cooler along the lines of cooler master 22 and cryorig 7. Do you have any coolers that you recommend instead of those?

>>56595725
You basically building the computer again if you have to take the motherboard out. It's not much work and I think it's fun.

Just got my 1070 in the mail. Computer is mainly used for gaming, shitposting, and rarely art and making videos. Should I upgrade from my FX-8320 to Skylake (i5 6600k) or just get a better motherboard and overclock? Current mobo works but is shit for OCing .

>>56603821
What video card? Or are you using Intel's video?

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Erickazo99/saved/h76hMp
How's it look anon, keep in mind the tower, and fan im getting for 100 bucks from my friend. Also, i came to this with a lot of help from the last thread

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This post is two separate questions. Forgive me, senpai.

I'm looking for a middle-of-the-road graphics card. Likely last gen. Something reliable, that doesn't run too hot. Would really appreciate suggestions, have the flu, thinking is bad.

Second, are there programs out there that allow me to get in-depth with switchable graphics settings? e.g. being able to swap between a big dick graphics card and a softie smashin one for when I'm not running anything intense. Catalyst Control Center made me want to strange whoever AMD had make such a clunky interface that does basically nothing

>>56604944
>http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Erickazo99/saved/h76hMp
Not too bad. The CPU comes with a cooler, so you don't have to buy one
I'd get a 250GB SSD and change the HDD to a 2TB HGST 5400 or 5700 RPM for storage

>>56604774
>and I think it's fun.
this is hell

quick question /g/ should I move my fan so that's it's facing my RAM or is it ok with where it's at now, facing my graphics card?

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>>56605107
forgot pic

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Took some criticism and went with pic related. But now I am hesitant on if I need a new computer or if I should just upgrade. I'll post specs of my current on the next post.

>>56605080
No

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>>56605175
Current

>>56605175
Might as well get a 6GB 1060. Don't pay that much for a 480. It should be $220, not $280.

>>56605209
Get a 1080p monitor. You can find a decent one for $100 or less.

>>56605236
Yeah that is my current situation that is being fixed pronto.

>>56605180
silence is usually a more effective way of sending that message :,^(

I'm considering in upgrading my card soon from a single 780Ti to perhaps a 980Ti x2 which is rather cheap at the moment. Normally around $750 - $1000 AUD per card but now they're selling it here for $600 AUD.

Essentially would this be a good choice to make, or should I hang out for another card down the line?

>>56605209
Suggestion
>Buy 60Hz 1080p monitor. Used off cl will be $50.
>Replace the Phenom II with an 8350.
>Buy 470/480/1060
>Buy 250GB SSD

Of course sell your old shit

>>56605304
Monitor?

Does anyone have that picture of a giant gpu attached to an itx board?

Reference peak APU build australian

4x3.6[k] 16gb2133 250ssd 300Wbronze integrated r7 $592

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/ryBHGf

>>56605080
>not owning a heavy-weight battlerig for gaming and a super cheap, super light-weight PC for everything else
This is why I love my A4-5000. Can run on a 60W DC power brick and still not be shit enough for me to break out a laptop.

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I have a problem /g/

>>56605377
Some 27inch monitor called Kogan that supports up to 2k resolution. Might look at getting 4k eventually when prices come down. Things are ludicrously expensive here.

>>56605219
You again?
You still have yet to acknowledge the difference in proce of the rx480 depending on their amount of vram.
The 4gb versions hover over 200, like you suggested, but the 8gb version has a higher msrp because it has enough vram to make it relatively hard for vram to bottleneck the card.
Meanwhile the 4gb 480 and 3gb 1060 will surely run into problems in lots of bloated modern games.
And when the rx480 8gb and gtx1060 6gb are within $10 of each other, the 480 seems like a much better choice for the new APIs and large texture files, especially with new "ultra-extreme" type modes they make now that can actually take advantage of large amounts of vram.

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>>56603474
How's this for gaming? http://pcpartpicker.com/list/XGDygL
I already own a 980 Ti and I'm considering picking up a second one for SLI since they're so cheap right now. Upgrading from pic related, it's a prebuilt that I put a new GPU in.

>>56605634
What the fuck are you doing with that cpu cooler?
Also, why do you have a micro atx board with a full-sized tower case?

-5584
Similar Reference peak i5 build aus

4x3.3 16gb2400 ddr4 250ssd 450W bronze integrated hd 530 $1192

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/PMHjHN

>>56605839
>What the fuck are you doing with that cpu cooler?
I thought that was where it's supposed to go

Also, why do you have a micro atx board with a full-sized tower case?
pcpartpicker said it was compatible

I don't know what to do now

>>56605882
this has to be a troll. please be a troll

>>56605882
You have the fan pointed vertically instead of towards the back of your case. Typically you want the fans inside your case to flow the same direction as the fans on the walls of the case.
If you have front/back fans, it is best to mount it horizontal in the same direction, usually dorecting towards the back of the case.
Your positioning might work if you had a vent on the top of your case with a fan on it, but the mounting bracket also has to allow for this, and I'm not sure if they all do that.


If your case is ATX but your motherboard is mATX it isn't the end for you yet. Most ATX cases include mounting points for matx and mitx motherboards.
Consult your case manual to figure out which spots are the correct ones.
The only issue with doing that is certain cables might be a little short.
Just be sure you can still plug in all the necessary connectors for power, usb, sata, etc.

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Reposting from >>56590681

Like a lot of people here I'm new to building. I tried to put together with a helping hand of a couple lads a build for video and photo editing, animation, arguably fast compiling for programming and responsive file management. I don't do much gaming but it'd be nice to get some good performance for when I do play.

If it was up to me, I'd want my build to be as small as possible so I can keep the thing on my desk (cleaning ladies are savages when brooming and my roomies aren't exactly respectful) but I'm not sure if a Mini-iTX build will get hot easily and/or be easy for a newcomer to put together, let alone that I don't know if it will all fit.

Otherwise, I have this MidTower build. I'm not confident if it will work/fit fine, also I can't decide on the cases. My budget 1,600 (including peripherals). Opinions?

Mini-iTX attempt
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/wDbdHN
MidTower attempt
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZGvmD8

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Any advice on shipping, anyone?

If I choose my parts on Amazon I am able to get the handling and shipping of my parts by what appears no name Chinese brands.

The thing is that I can get ridiculously low prices with this guys. For example, a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO would either cost me about $14 + $8 shipped from a brand called "Tan FroM China" or fucking $37 + $0 shipped from Amazon.

It's a big price difference, but is getting the shipping done from a trustworthy name like Amazon worth the extra buck?

Yes, I'm a Spic.

Im building a, because I can, pc. Im not super concerned about the price but I dont want it to go over 2500. Anything to change to improve the build?
I also need a recommendation on a mother board, this will be used just for gaming and web browsing. Also im waiting for the 1080 ti, not actually going to the one listed. Thats just there to add to the price

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/XCXBLD

>>56606015
It's these two
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146190

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128868

What do I now that all hope is lost

>>56606085
Can't say about the motherboard but I'd get another standard hard drive. Space becomes a real concern quick if you're like me and into downloading movies and shows on top of games.

Also couldn't hurt to up the wattage on the PSU in case you ever decide to become more ambitious with your future builds.

>>56606072
You're not "choosing the shipping", you're picking a vendor. Some random chinese company is more likely to send you a fake/ broken product/ used one etc than amazon obviously.

>>56605829
Please help. I need validation before I make my purchases.

About to build a pc for about 1k, I'm gonna get windows 10 but how easy is it to torrent. I was just gonna buy it but I hear a lot of people just download it

>>56606206
Windows 10 home is free. Windows 10 Pro is around $130ish

>>56605219
Will you people stop trying to drag me over to the dark side? Seriously.

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>>56606170
But what are the chances of that happening? I mean, this is not eBay where literally anyone can sell shit, these guys should have some affiliation with Amazon itself, right?
If they do send me a fake part, then I can go tell Amazon and they'll spank their Chink chimps, right?
idk I just want to make the right choice, but saving money is kinda tempting.

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Just finished putting this together. Was wondering, would a 360mm cooler drop my CPU temps significantly compared to this 240mm one? I'm willing to get a Full ATX case if where's talking major drops in Cs.
Other than that, any way to trim the fat? I do not care about aesthetics at all, just performance.

>>56605634
>>56606015
It's compatible, it's just going to look like shit, and you won't have much room for expansion, which is fine if you don't need any expansion. Unfortunately you did spend a couple extra dollars on a good looking case with a side window, so now your ugly, but perfectly functional, guts will be bare for the world to see. You should really do some research before dropping a bunch of money on stuff though. It's going to work fine btw.

Uninstall that cpu cooler and make the heatsink stand vertically, and face the fan out the side fan. Notice that there's only 2 fans in the case, both exhaust? You won't get very good air flow that way. NZXT was assuming you'd be installing your own. This is fine though, just take that top exhaust and re-mount it into the front. There should be 2 mounting points for fans behind the dust filter. While you're at it, the gpu looks just a little crooked. Might want to straighten it a bit.

>>56606177
Looks like a solid high end machine to me. The only thing I would change would probably be the brands if I had to find a fault but im kinda of a brand whore, yours is fine

>>56606282
What are you using it for?

>>56606217
How is it free? I upgraded my windows 7 to 10 for free when that first came out, did that on my shitty laptop though

should i get an after market cooler if im not overclocking

a store near me sells the hyper 212s for 20 bucks. will that 20 bucks increase the lifespan or performance of my cpu

i only do casual computing and no real gaming besides hearthstone

>>56606403
Did they start charging for windows 10 home? Last I heard it was free

>>56606402
Mainly I do teaching streams where I run multiple cameras at once, but I also want to play games.

>>56606150
Thanks, I might as well add some more storage but as for the power supply I know im not going to do any sli or crossfire and I wanted to try to get the psu usage around 50% and if I did need anything more i'll hand it down to my sister and get a new one like my other pc's

>>56605658
2K, the fuck is that you illiterate aboriginal? If 2K = 1080p, 980Ti is a waste. Just get a GTX 1060 or RX 480.

>>56606282
Looks good for an enthusiast build, just change out the Seagate drives for HGST enterprise.
And get a G-sync monitor

>>56606085
Looks good, but only if you're actually going to bother to OC

>>56606060
How many fucking times are you gonna repost?

>>56605872
>>56605584
Retarded/10 build, not even sure what you're trying to say

>>56605829
>I'm considering picking up a second one for SLI
No you retard, especially since that APU sucks balls. If it's a prebuilt, the PSU probably isn't powerful enough and you only have a 1080p monitor.

>>56606405
Stock cooler

>>56606411
Free upgrade offer is over, doesn't mean you can't pirate and activate

>>56606605
Sorry I just got off from work running on little sleep. I meant to say my max res is 2560x1440 WQHD or whatever it's called.

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Check out my gayman mini bar anons.

INTEL CORE I5-6500 LGA1151 PROCESSOR
ASUS H110I-PLUS LGA1151 MAINBOARD
KINGSTON HYPER X FURY 8GB DDR4 2400MHZ GAMING RAM BLACK
APACER PANTHER AS330 120GB SSD
SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB DESKTOP HDD ST1000DM003
GIGABYTE GTX 1060 G1 GAMING 6GB GDDR5
CORSAIR VS650 650W POWER SUPPLY
FRACTAL DESIGN NODE 304 WHITE ITX CASING
ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW 120 AIO LIQUID COOLER
WHITE LED STRIP

mfw the machine is so cool, the graphics card fans barely ever spun

anyone else excited for the gtx 1050?

>>56606605
I'm saying like how easy is it to pirate my dawg. I ain't tryna spend that extra 50$

>>56606605
I meant a second 980 for my future build, not my current one. I'm also going to upgrade to a 1440p@144hz monitor.

>>56606667
In that case a 980Ti will be good

>>56606721
n1 m8

>>56606733
Yep, not for me personally though. That little guy will make for some really cheap rigs

>>56606761
My bad. I'd still probably stick with the one card, even for 1440p. SLI isn't really that fun.

Get a ~250GB SSD

>>56606760
Extremely, just download from MS website and then use KMSpico after install

>>56606229
>these guys should have some affiliation with Amazon itself, right?

It's the amazon marketplace, I could sell my shit there.

Get new mobo to overclock my FX-8320 (current mobo a shit) or sit tight til I can afford to get a z170 mobo and an i7 6600k?

>>56606458
Looks good, but I would suggest:

-A cheaper 1070 (there are units for $400 now)
-Double check the PSU. Rosewill's old capstones were Super Flower (excellent units), the new ones are something else. If unsure, get the EVGA GS/G2.
-If you have the space, consider the full tower Enthoo Pro. Easier to work with, and you do have a large rad in there.

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Rate this Micro gaming build.

Speaking of which, is there a consensus on Micro gaming PCs? I am kind of concerned about heat, I plan on filling this thing up with fans though if there is enough space.

As for the gpu, I havent decided, I might get an AMD 400 something because im tired of Nvidia's jewing. I dont plan on gaming over 1080p.

>>56606887
Sent ;)

>>56606875
Will you be happy with OC 8320 performance, or are you intending to get a 6600K later anyway?

>>56606887
>worried about heat
>AMD
nah, m8. Even though the actual wattage isn't that different between the 480 and 1060, the percentage difference is large.

>>56606925
I'm not sure. I just got a 1070. What are the chances of the 8320 being a bottleneck even if OC'd?

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xfLfyf

last post, I promise lads

everything look good? gonna order it all tomorrow

>>56606958
>$299
>4gb model

Why not get an 8gb model?

>>56606958
The only change I would make is that Seagate HD to a WD one.

Besides that, everything looks fine assuming you have done the research and you know what you want out of this build.

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Are there any better quality cases that have the old school ATX layout with actual 3.5 inch bays? It's a shame I gotta buy a cheap ass case to get functionality because gaymers.

>>56606971
w-what
I don't think that exists

>>56606975
which WD model? the BLACK ones are expensive and I was trying to lower the price

>>56606993
I suggest just using a blue, if you are using it for storage there is virtually no difference.

>>56606991
Lian Lis

>>56606953
In CPU-heavy situations, OC or not the 6700K will smoke the 8320. Some games are CPU-heavy, or at least CPU reliant. Many (most?) games are not, so your 8320 is fine in general.

What do you play most?

>>56607016
I'll check em out, thx.

>>56607017
Shut up trip fag and end your website

>>56606991
corisar 500r aint bad. Comes with a big stonkin side intake fan too. Temps are generally really good in this thing.

>>56607070
Hope your day gets better, anon.

>>56606958
i recently bought an ocz ssd. theyre at about half the price of samsung and only have maybe a 10% difference in speed

also toshiba hdd. same speed. unbeatable prices

>>56607076
Stop trying to be a nice guy Michael.

>>56606605
>just change out the Seagate drives for HGST enterprise.
>HGST enterprise
Sorry, I can't find this. Is HGST the brand?

>>56606883
>-A cheaper 1070 (there are units for $400 now)
True, but the reviews I read, this Zotac has the best cooling and performance. Do you recommend a certain other one?

>-Double check the PSU. Rosewill's old capstones were Super Flower (excellent units), the new ones are something else. If unsure, get the EVGA GS/G2.
I'll look into it, thanks for the recommendation. PSU are something I don't know anything about, really.

>-If you have the space, consider the full tower Enthoo Pro. Easier to work with, and you do have a large rad in there.

Originally, I was going to get that exact case, but I don't know if the bigger radiator will justify the extra costs. Don't know how muh cooler it will let me run. I went with the Mid ATX also because I don't know what to do with all the extra room in the full size!

>>56606953
Depends on your resolution, at 1080p 144Hz your GPU will often be bottlenecked, even if you OC. If you're at 1440p or 4K, you'll probably be fine.

You'll want to upgrade that CPU to get the most out of your 1070 though. Honestly I would at least wait until Zen drops to make any decisions

>>56606958
>>56606993
Change hard drive to HGST

>>56607070
Drown in your vodka, ladyboy

Okay so I want to change mobo for reasons but I don't know what problems could come when switching over in regards to general software compatibility. I've currently got 3 standards HDDs and one SSD with all my shit on it and 2 of the standard HDDs are currently set up as dynamic/spanned drives.

How would I go when switching over? Do I use the same SATA slots as my current mobo when moving over or will it not matter?

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>>56606975
>>56607089
>>56607101
literally everyone says a different HDD manufacturer

>>56607100
>>56607120
Yes, I just bought this one today
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5AD4DP0316
You can see its failure rate here
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-q1-2015/
There are some nice graphs on that website if you want info

>finally decided to get a CM Hyper 212 Evo because my stock AMD cooler is loud as shit and idling at 40C
>CPU is now happily idling at 20C and barely hits 45C under full load
holy fuck this is probably the best decision I've ever made with my machine
it's totally silent too

>>56607109
Not sure, but I don't think you can swap mobos without reinstalling windows

>>56607120
>tfw Seagate HDD for 4 months
When can I expect it to die /g/?

>>56607160
Tomorrow, especially if it's a 1.5 or 3TB. Always have a backup and redundancy

>>56607120
It does not actually matter that much, since most of the heavy lifting is done by the SSD. That said, if the prices are similar, get the HDD with the best reliability.

>>56607120
pretty much seagate is shit lol. changing to anything we posted would be an upgrade


western digital is solid. i suggested toshiba, which is also solid but at a slightly smaller cost

just dont get seagate

>>56607120
HGST is literally the only reliable HDD manufacturer

>Check out a used mobo someone is selling in my local area.
>the fucking thing looks like it got coffee, doritos, chinese food and god-know-whatever smeared all over it.
Thanks god the retard even managed to bend some of socket pins I got my excuse to btfo.
And i thought keyboards and mouse are the only things i have to avoid buying used

>>56607159
Fuck. I got my Windows from school years ago for free and I don't know about how to go about reinstalling with the same activation.

>>56607120
Seagates are fine, but they are built to a price and will likely fail sometime after the warranty if not taken care of (i.e. writing to the drive too much or putting multiple VMs on the same drive without partitioning). They started to get into the gaymer meme with their new line of hard drives. I don't remember their names but there is a drive for normal uses (5900rpm), "power users" (7200rpm), file storage/NAS (5900rpm/7200rpm), enterprise (7200rpm/10000rpm SAS), surveillance (5900rpm, but higher write endurance due to security camera systems writing all the god damn time), and archive drives (do not use this as the main OS drive or use frequently).
WD does the same thing with their colors: Blue (5900rpm, they used to have 7200rpm drives until WD decided to merge Green and Blue together in the same family), Red (NAS drives, 5900rpm/7200rpm), Purple (surveillance drives, 5900rpm), Black (meme drives, 7200rpm), and Blue Hybrids (SSHDs, 5900rpm drives with 8GB "SSD" cache)

Hitachi/HGST are fairly good for long term use, but their write/read speeds aren't as good as the other brands and their designs are fairly old (I think their Deskstar 5K line was designed before Obama). Deskstar are consumer drives, which you will also find the words NAS attached at the end for the NAS drives. Ultrastar are Enterprise drives, usually much more expensive.

Toshiba also was a clusterfuck of naming like Hitachi, but they cleaned up a bit with their newer models. P300s are the standard drives (7200rpm, 1-3TB), E300s are the "eco-friendly"/NAS drives (5750rpm for the 500GB-2TB drive, 5900rpm for the 3TB), and the X300s are the "prosumer" drives (7200rpm 4-6TB).
The P300s and X300s can usually be found at ridiculously low prices and are really fast compared to most offerings at the same price range.

>>56606605
> You can't just go and pick some parts on parts picker, what do you think this is? A parts picking website ??

>>56607272
>>56607160
>>56607195
>>56607199
>>56607200
I'm just looking for a 7200rpm drive with at least 2TB for around $75. can it be done by anyone other than seagate? the wd blacks are like $120. if the seagate is really that prone to failure, I guess I can go down to 5400/5900rpm to have more options. this is a tough call for me since I haven't used an HDD in years and don't remember what they're like compared to SSDs (I only have a laptop and I replaced the hdd with a ssd)

>>56607367
https://www.amazon.com/HITACHI-0F12470-Ultrastar-A7K3000-internal/dp/B00PVXQBAE/

The Seagates are fine. They were tested in a non-consumer environment that they were not designed for. Your HDD will not be in use 24/7, stuck in a shaky hot container with 50 other HDDs. But if you are worried, you can get the more reliable Hitachi, and it is in your price range.

>>56607367
m8

Do you not know how to use search refinements?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100167523%20600003300%2050001984%204814%20600457686

>>56603572
The motherboard manual has a link to a calculator. Should I use it?

How do I set up case fans on a PC? Mine died and I figure weren't configured best, so what should I do to keep my toaster from making my room 10 degrees warmer

>>56608025
Fans won't change how much heat is made just how quickly it leaves your case
Embrace the space heater, winter is right around the corner

>>56608049
>tfw in South Florida
>ac is broken

>>56608025
More intake than exhaust. If there's an HDD cage, radiator, or a dense dust filter the air has to go through, use static pressure fans. Everything else should use airflow or all-purpose fans. Use fans with fluid dynamic or ball bearings so they'll last a few builds without getting shitty or noisy.

>>56608096
Yeah, my last fan I had to get rid of because it was too fucking loud to use anymore and I thought it was gonna fly apart any second.

I'll admit though, I'm pretty much a newfag when it comes to PC building.

Also I've had my side panels off since my fan died and have been blowing a floor fan into my PC, how bad is that and can a bit of duster clean it up?

>>56608111
It won't kill your computer but that's not something you want to do for too long. I'm sure it'll come off with some air duster.

>>56607017
>>56607101
Thanks for the help. I'll probably look for a mobo under $80 to OC now and wait to upgrade until Zen and Kabylake are out.

>>56608188
I'm def gonna give it a thorough clean when I get my fans

So should I have a more powerful intake than exhaust or two intake one exhaust? I'm assuming intake below exhaust in placement?

>>56603474
Desktop: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hLZ28K
Server: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xYdPFd
Laptop: x200 that I flashed Libreboot onto with Debian on a 120GB SSD.

Next time I do a big upgrade I want to get a dual CPU motherboard and a couple of Xeons (or whatever the AMD equivalent is if they come up with some good competition). My plan is to keep all proprietary software contained in VMs. Right now I use proprietary Nvidia drivers on my desktop along with some proprietary games. I want to have a base GNU/Linux install with no proprietary software, and I would have a second GNU/Linux install in a VM with a GPU passed through for proprietary stuff. I would also keep my Windows 7 VM with a GPU passthrough for Windows games.

>>56608228
You want more air coming in than out, whether you accomplish that with higher RPMs or more fans. I personally have three intakes and one exhaust all running at 600 RPM.

Don't worry too much about top exhaust vs intake since heat convection is negligible in a system the size of a PC case, where air is cycled very frequently. Top exhausts would actually do more harm than good since they "steal" air from your CPU cooler. You definitely don't want a bottom exhaust though since that warm air will be sucked up by your PSU.

The important thing to remember is that air goes where you push it.

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Currently running an fx 8350, gtx 960 machine. I plan on selling it to a friend and building pic related

>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/JVWL9W

How's this for 1440p @60hz gaming, maaaaybe a little video editing? Overkill? I am knowingly spending a few dollars on certain aesthetic things, like the motherboard, but I want to keep things reasonably priced. I'm probably going to dial the cpu to about 4.4ghz. I'd also like to get a nice, beefy OC on the gpu. I know most games run well enough at stock clocks with these specs, but I want the Witcher 3, specifically, to look as good as possible with a 60 fps lock.
I'm going for a smooth, seamless White/Blue/Black color theme. If you have any suggestions to improve that, I'll gladly take them.
I already have an SSD boot drive that I'll be transferring to this system btw.

>>56608390
Get 3000MHz memory

>>56608390
jesus, that motherboard price

>>56608432
>When I thought that you should pay no less than $200 for an "ULTRA STABLE OC PRO 32 PHASES" motherboard
>When I thought that you should have no less than an ultra airflow full tower with LEDs everywhere
Man, I sure am glad I was poor 4 years ago.

>>56608390
you do not need to upgrade for like 4-5 more years

get like a 1070 or whatever if you need the graphics but otherwise stop being such a consumerwhore

>>56608494
Not everyone finds beauty in Thinkpads like we do anon

>>56608479
>>56608432
To be fair, the board I was considering buying before I saw this was the z170 Sabertooth-S which is like $5 more. I thought the camo was really cringey though.
I figured the $170 price was extravagant a bit, but still in the realm of being reasonable. I COULD go with something like the asus z170-a for $135-ish, but idk. Maybe you're right, I should trim it back.
>>56608494
The system is already chugging in some games, mostly due to the cpu. Hell, it even has some stutters in World of Warcraft. At the very least, I want a CPU upgrade right now, which at minimum requires a new mobo and cpu. If i go to skylake over haswell, then I'm also buying new ram. I might as well scrap the system as a whole, and build my dream machine.

>>56608554
stop playing on memeresolutions ahead of their time, and turn down stuff like shadows and AA.

you will be good for years

>>56608554
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fn7CmG/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz170hd3

there you go anon, no more spending a retarded amount on mobos

>>56608390
>>56608421
I have this memory. I oc'd from 2400 to 3000 16-16-16-36 at 1.35v.
A lot of people have had similar luck with this ram as well.

>>56608563
IIRC, World of Warcraft can only use 2 cpu cores. That would mean my 8350 is basically a 4.2ghz Athlon. In areas with lots of enemies, especially if they are all taking damage at the same time and it's being calculated all at once, the game drops from 70-ish fps to like 20, sometimes even a second of stutter. Suddenly I'm standing in a pool of acid, and I'm dead.

$1200 on a hobby isn't really that bad, considering a bunch of my friends are all car parts enthusiast who go out and spend shitloads of money on things like custom exhaust, "racing" tires, whatever the fuck else car people do to mod their perfectly fine car.

Is it worth getting an H7 over the M9i if I'm mostly interested in silence rather than cooling? My budget is tight, but I can squeeze the H7 in.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhF9cc

there's my new build. I'll first buy everything except the video card and see if I could find a good deal.

r8/h8?

-7358

anyhow, to please anon, a non retarded techogamer build

Reference peak gamer-mainframe build $4717

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/CLwJyf

> tfw no qt gaming thin-client

>>56608852
This is the most retarded thing I've seen all day.

>>56608834
If this is just for gaming, that CPU is extreme overkill, you'd be better off with an i5-6500 and the stock cooler and an H170 or H110 mobo

Opinions on buying used parts from ebay?
Trying to build something that can run ARMA 3 at 60 FPS, not so much 1080p, but just good enough.

>>56608852
i giggled

>>56609104
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/S56573005#p56577265

>>56609104
You can run into problems, like a mobo with a random non-functioning port, but mostly you'll be fine.

I use ebay all the time

>>56609124
Christ Man, way to shoot my dreams down.

>>56608834
>5400rpm wd blue
Why?

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Should I go for an airlow fan or a static pressure fan for a bottom intake? 120mm or 140mm? What about a front intake blowing into a mostly empty drive bay?

>>56608921

actually it's mostly for Photoshop, 2d animation programs(open toonz, manga studio etc..) and 3d render(blender) at home for semi-pro/hobby purpose.

I don't have any desktop computer atm. only laptops. that's why I tried to choose best performance I could afford. I don't plan to play video games at all. I actually quit playing games a few weeks ago and I'll try to stay that way in the future as much as I can. I think I can substitute some video game time with some online series that's all.

only maybe if I try to make a game myself. I could play some for reference purpose.

>>56609405

it's just for storage for some reference pics, videos and finished 2D/3D animation work. I mostly care if it's reliable or not. speed is kinda not that important for that drive. I'll be on SSD most of the time anyways.

so it looks ok right?

After extensive research and high hopes on eGPUs I realized they were all but stable and gave up. What initially drew me to them was the low price and somehow I was under the impression building a desktop would be expensive as hell. Now I see that's not the case at all.

Anyway, how necessary it is to have a case? I can afford right now a decent build save for the case, could I just leave it sitting on a carboard box without electrical problems? Also whats the best and cheapest brand of psu, corsair cx430 is the cheapest and most decent/reliable I can find.

Just built a [email protected] with two OC 290X + 2 7200RPM + 2 SSD and running anywhere between 4-8 fans for final build on a HX1050. Think it can cope?

>>56609845
Use a wall wattage monitor and incrementally up the stress on the system. Keep in mind the PSU's efficiency when looking at the number from the wall.

>>56609765
>I can afford right now a decent build save for the case
Go to logical increments and tell me approximately which tier you're building and the purpose of the PC. And yes you need a case

>>56609465
>120mm or 140mm?
biggest fan you can afford

>mostly empty drive bay
go for AF

>>56609646
Seems ok then, but i'd probably get more than a 250GB SSD for OS and storage.

>>56605703
vram is irrelevant. the 1060 outperforms the 480 in most games. you can put 10gb on the 480 and it wouldn't make a difference.

>>56610133
But the 1060 will get gimped like the 960 was when the next generation is out.

is gsync a total meme? i'm gonna get a new monitor soon and i for sure want at minimum, a 27" monitor with an ips panel and at least a 144hz refresh rate, but is gsync worth the extra cost?

also, out of curiousity, is backlight bleed so bad on ips panels that i should get a cheaper tn panel with worse colors and wait til blb issues are corrected?

Do I need to reinstall Windows if I'm going from an AM3+ mobo to a 1151socket

Using 8.1 currently

>>56610136
just use older drivers if you think that's true

What's a good micro-ATX case I can use for a build?

I want to try and build a rig with at least 2 cards SLI'd in the smallest, best case possible.

Low-budget guy here, trying REALLY hard not to break the bank on a 500ish budget.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/H3nh3F
Would this work out in CPU intensive games, ARMA 3, DayZ, etc.

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Hey /pcbg/ what do you th

Is 420 W PSU enough for Nitor RX480, which claims it needs 500 W??

Have Ivybridge i5 and 2 HDD's connected to the PSU.

>>56610077

merci. nice double double.

Dear /pcbg/.

Im about to buy whole new PC, only moving old HDDs from previous PC.

What do you guys think about this build:

CPU: i7-6700k
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX480 Nitro+ OC 8gb
PSU: Seasonic S12-II 620W
Case: Corsair Carbide 200R
RAM: 2x8gb DDR4, Crucial or Corsair
CPU cooling: Coolermaster 212 Evo

In general, as I was asking about opinions around the net, I got told to replace Seasonic S12-II with Corsair CX and with lower power (550W). When poiting out poor reputation of CX compared to good reputation of S12-II, I got replied that CX was improved greatly over the years. Could anybody confirm or deny that?

Also, I got suggested to replace GA-Z170-HD3P with Z170 Gaming K3. Both are from Gigabyte and K3 cost a little bit more, yet I dont see too much difference between those two. Could anybody explain that?

For some reason, one person disliked Evo, caliming it to be "too weak" for i7. How would you guys comment that?

As for country, its Poland and budget is around 4500 PLN or around 1000 EUR, if you wish. When comparing prices of those parts listed, it ends around 4400 PLN for now. I know about possibility of importing from Germany or UK, but the cost of transport usually makes this option more expensive.

My current PC, with i5-750, P55M-UD2 mobo and GTX 660 serve me since 6 years already (had replaced GTX 460 with 660 around 2 years ago or something) and I want new one to be good for around 4 as well, especially CPU (which is why I picked rather powerful one).

Thank you for opinions, advices or help.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/b9zdHN

imo this is the perfect build. it combines quality and budget that will run anything at max settings. ssd for booting up, 3gb storage. T2 psu gold rated. all for under 1k

>>56610556
>trying to budget
>samsung ssd

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3tfcHN
here you go

>>56611029
Objectively ok. What will you do with it? Depending on usage etc. theres always room for improvement.

>>56611129
Your 750W PSU is total overkill.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000O8I474/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

would these fans be worth getting? my case only came with one fan

>>56611841

Work and games, to be honest. "Work" is mainly about running simulations and measurement data management.

So, you wouldnt swap that GA-Z170-HD3P for Z170 Gaming K3? Or S12-II for CXM?

That problem bugs me a bit.

>>56606331
do I need to replace the thermal paste

Okay, love you guys for helping me out yesterday (picking GPU).

I have (I think) a slight problem: nowhere to put SSDs in the case. I found a hole on top of the CD drive, just the right size under the upper limit of the case.

There is quite literally 0 space left: will heat be a concern?

>>56612060
Personally i'd go for the HD3P and S12-ll.

I'm building a new PC. With the GPU plugged in, all fans spin but no signal is detected by the monitor. With the GPU removed, it boots fine. I have an i3 and 480 with a 500w power supply, so I don't think that's the issue?

>>56612571
Did you plug they cable into the gpu or mobo?

>>56612611
Tried both, but not every slot of the GPU. Would that matter?

>>56606958
Good choice on the Fury, I'm pretty satisfied with mine so far.

>>56612544

HD3P looks more reliable?

Honestly, I dont trust anything with "gaming" in name.

>>56612571
Check the GPU for proper fit in the slot and also if the 6 pin power is connected.

>>56612644

Im about to spend a lot of money on new PC and I need opinions form others, otherwise I risk burning money on wrong parts. How is that related to "linux ricing" in any way?

Go be autistic somewhere else.

>>56612633
Shouldnt matter as long you plug it into the gpu. Maybe your monitor isnt on auto?
Maybe you gpu or some cable isnt plugged in correctly?
Do you have a second gpu to test your build?
Shouldnt be the 500W psu, 480 + i3 isnt that energy hungry

>>56612654
Gaming mobos are just as reliable, you simply pay extra for the gamig tag and maybe some retarded on board led stripe.

>>56611936
Don't see why not

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>>56606331
>>56612082
I left the thermal paste on. None of the screw holes on the case align with the motherboard. Is there any other way to attach it?

>>56612729

The only differences in specification I noticed in case of comparing GA-Z170-HD3P and Z170 Gaming K3 are:

- in case of HD3P onboard graphics support up to 3 displays, K3 dont
- HD3P have ALC887 audtio codec, K3 have ALC1150 (no idea whats the difference)
- HD3P have 2 x PCI Express x1 slots and 2 x PCI slots, while K3 have 4 x PCI Express x1 slots
- HD3P have one more SATA Express connector (3, K3 have 2)
- HD3P have more USB ports

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5495#sp
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5720#sp

Im asking since the difference in cost is not very big (around 30-40 PLN, less than 10 EUR).

>>56604441
I'm particularly fond of my fsp group hydro g 650w. Fully modular, semi fan less, >85% efficient at 50c, all server grade components. Costs 80-90$, and the 750w is typically 90-110$ depending on sales and what not. Johnny guru review of the 750w model also showed it capable of handling loads around 800w.

>>56612900
The difference is marginal. If i'm not mistaken the ALC887 is better, but double check that.
Take whichever you like the most

>>56612796
>i left he thermal paste
>gpu still plugged in
>none of the screw holes match
You savage.

>>56612926

In such case it would be more flipping the coin, but thanks.

But in general HD3P is not bad mobo to use with i7-6700k? Or it would seriously limit OC potential? I must admit that I probably wont use other OC methods than "automatic" ones by software provided by manufacturer (like "Easy Tune" from Gigabyte), due to lack of experience.

>>56612985
Should be ok, i'm currently only on my phone, but later ill take a look at it

>>56613022

Thanks, I will check the thread later at evening, back at home.

>>56595725
An i7 920 won't be that much of a bottleneck for a 1060. Just overclock it to 160-170 bclk and you'll be fine could also upgrade the cpu for relatively little money as well but not really worth it unless you go for an x5650+

>>56605107
>>56605120
You're better off with the cooler set to blow towards the back of the case, that way you're not cooling your cpu with hot air off the gpu. Also promotes better cooling to your ram if you have it overclocked. If you have the space in your case, you could just use the lower pcie slot as well.

>>56612926
>>56612900
ALC 1150 is better if I'm not mistaken but you could always buy a soundcard or a DAC if you're not happy with onboard sound later.

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>>56605424

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I'm mad paranoid when it comes to, well most things, but right now about building a new PC and getting it wrong. Again.

Is this a good build, or is anything on this list specifically bad?
I'm pretty sure that the mobo I picked fits the CPU, but I'm not sure if the fan will attach to the Mobo.
I'm a bit worried about the case cause its fucking huge, it won't fit on my desk so it'll have to go under it, is there any actual problems with placing a case under a desk? It'll be in the corner of an L shape and will have plenty of ventilation.

No HDD cause I should be able to use my old 2TB one, or should I get a new one anyway?
I'm worried about the SSD, I intend to install windows 7 on it and a couple of games.
I realized I didn't get a disk drive, I can use the one from my current PC rite?
If I'm gonna install Windows 7 on my SSD, do I do it before or after uninstalling it from my old HDD? Will it try to force me to format my old HDD?

>>56613234
>I'm pretty sure that the mobo I picked fits the CPU, but I'm not sure if the fan will attach to the Mobo.

I have that Noctua cooler, it mounts to pretty much anything (including Socket 1151, which emans your CPU and Motherboard combo).

The case looks solid and has raised feet with air intake options in the bottom so ventilation shouldn't be a problem even on the floor.

240 GB of SSD space is definitely fine for the OS, some programs and maybe smaller games. If you want to keep multiple large (30-60 GB) titles installed at the same time, you're probably going to pick up another SSD just for games in a year or so, I know I did. I bought another 480 GB after realizing that 256 GB wasn't enough with huge titles like Fallout 4, The Witcher 3 and GTA V. Old disk drives should be fine as well as old HDD.

You should do a clean install of Windows on the SSD and only then connect your old drive and remove Windows or just backup your files, format the old thing and then transfer.

Suggestions?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/RH6VWX

>>56613234
> Is this a good build, or is anything on this list specifically bad?
yes
> Fan will fit the mobo
yea
> case is fucking huge
Well it's a big tower

256 gb is fine for windows and some games, use the 2tb from old computer for stuff you not use that often and storage.
best thing is to just remove the old windows partition, and install a fresh one on the ssd.

>>56613354
i would go for a 6600k, 3000+ mhz memory and a different ssd.

>>56613354
You might want to go with WD, Toshiba or anything that isn't Seagate for the HDD. Your Motherboard and CPU mean you won't be doing any overclocking, which is fine, but you still might want to pick up a cheap aftermarket cooler like a Hyper 212, the stock cooler can get a bit loud under load during the summer months.

>>56613234
>gaymu meme build
Get LED fans as well.
Honestly, dont buy this build.

>>56613520
Are you the dogbeating Linuxfag butthurt about people using computers to play games?

>>56613540
>projectong this hard
Go on and waste your shekels on gaymer hardware, retard.

>>56613330
>>56613380
Thanks for the info.
Man my steam folder is legit taking up 1TB of space.
The only games I'd be putting on the SSD atm is FO4, Skyrim HD if it comes out on PC, and mods for them.
Maybe if I decide I hate life again I'd put BF4 onto it.

I realized I need a new monitor to go with this, my old 2nd monitor is somewhere between 5 and 10 years old with a max res of 1280x720.
You mesure the size of a screen from the insides of the screen, corner to corner right?
My current main monitor is 24" and 1080p, whats a good monitor for a GAMING PC, I see you >>56613520
Possibly at 24" but 27" would probably be ok.

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Did i fucked up /g/?

>>56613354
god do you people even...

rosewill is garbage. get seasonic or evga
nvidia > amd at the same price
seagate is literally the worst hdd you can get
adata isnt absolutely garbage, but it isnt good
for what reason did you get such an expensive mobo

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qFgcHN

bam. look. i saved you money and upgraded your parts. such amaze

>>56612644
Moot supports Google who occasionally supports free software
Moot is linux

>>56613644
Yes.

>>56613722
Explain

>>56613644
no

>>56613738
Wil do, what your budget and purpose?

>>56613644
good mouse, why that keyboard in particular?

>>56613675
Why even bother with the 6600 vanilla, though. It's only 15$, but not worth going beyond 6500 unless you get the 6600k.

>>56613770
Budget didn't matter, just wanted to get a small form factor build for gaymin and little bit of CAD work

>>56613777
A friend has it and i liked it, so i went and got it too

>>56613791
>no CPU cooler
>non-overclocking MB
>suggesting paying extra for the letter K

No.

>>56613844
And that is relevant how? Both partspicker lists in this chain of quotes have H chipsets.

>>56613885
yeah, I read wrong. but i do agree that a 6600 (non-k) is not worth it over a 6500.

just a reminder that the 1050 comes out next month. itll have just about 970 power at a price probably around 150 bucks

>>56613925
Great, can't wait for more settlement shekels.

>>56613925

The 1050 is going to be a lot slower than a 970, probably in the 960 territory.

>>56613974
you might be right. i ordered all my parts and the last parts are gunna arrive today. i didnt get a gpu just cause the 1050 is right around the corner. so im hoping for 970 lol ;]

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I just bought it, don't tell me what to change because it's already too late
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/yn6ZJV

>>56613974
1050ti is gonna be somewhere in between and replace the 750ti as the defacto low budget bang for buck GPU

>>56614007
Do you have a replacement for now? Why would you not wait on ordering the parts until the GPU is actually relerased and probably pay less then?

>>56614058
Looking good, let's hope it all fits into your case.

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Quick shit to consider:
>I'm poor/I just want to play movies and the occasional indie games
Buy an A8-7670K or an A10-7890K with an A68M/78 mATX motherboard. If you're building a true HTPC, get an A6-7470K or an A10-7860K with the cheapest mITX you can find. You should be well under $400 here.

>i'm a shitlord who plays MOBA/CS:GO/ASSFAGGOTS/Various Cancer all day
Don't spend any more than $150 on your graphics card or $500 overall. Dual core Pentiums/i3s with an H110 mATX board, or Athlon X4 880K/845 with an A78 or A88X mATX motherboard (depending on which one is on sale)

>I'm a fucking normie who plays all the AAA games at 1080p
Step up to at least a 3GB GTX 1060 or a 4GB RX 470. i3-6300/6320 is the minimum you should consider, but an i5-6400/6402P/6500/6600 will be better. Spend no more than $220 on the card and no more than $650 overall. Same H110/A78/A88X mATX motherboard to keep it cheap.

>I play AAA games on occasion, but also PC only games at 1080p high-ultra settings
Upgrade to at least an 8GB RX480 or a 6GB GTX 1060. Stay with at least an i5-6500 or i5-6600. Stick with the same motherboards as above and spend no more than $750.

>I'm a good goy for the AAA games industry an I only play things at 1080p 144Hz/1440p
Take off your Razer headset and listen well: GTX 1070 and an i5-6600. No, you do not need to overclock. No, you do not need hyperthreading. No, you still don't need an ATX motherboard because an mATX is still more than enough for you. You can spend at least $900 for a decent, workable mach-
>I'm also a faggot who likes fucking other men
Fine, you can have the windowed case and LED. That puts you over $1000 for unnecessary bling and color-matching. You faggot.

>I'm the ultra goy
GTX 1080 and an i5-6600K, because why not. Z170 mATX motherboard, but no ATX for you, you delicious shekel-cow. Invest in at least a $30 cooler with no less than 6 heat pipes and at least 92mm fans. No, keep your filthy hands out of the AIO. You're looking at $1200+ here

>>56614160
Are you on some kind of crusade against the ATX form factor?

RATE MY mATX BUILD

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7dyrvV

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>>56614351
NOW WITH PICTURE

>>56614384
Stick with a better psu http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

>CPU cooler
is the cooler heigh compatible with the case?

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>>56614351
>case is 21 cm wide
>CPU cooler alone is 16.5 cm tall

>>56604944
I can't decide between a GTX 1060 or the RX 480. Which one is better in your guys' opinion for gaming? Also, what do i lose from using mATX instead of ATX?

>>56614446
>>56614457
http://www.overclock.net/t/1541863/new-build-so-far-z97-270x-350d-nhd15

This guy seems to have made it work.

>>56613806
If buget doesnt matter, do as you please.
I'd get a 512GB Pro SSD and an additional HGST HDD, though.

>>56614499
Then go on if it fits

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>>56614160
Cont.
>I'm a financial retard and my only job is streaming on Twitch
An i7-6700 (non-K) with a decent GPU of your choice. Streaming at 720p doesn't require a super-expensive graphics card, so a 3GB 1060 or 4GB RX470 should suffice here. AAA games? Bump it up to a 6GB 1060 or 8GB RX 480. Forget any other cards higher than this, Twitch, YouTube, and HitBox do not support higher resolution streams unless you're some bigshot media company.
H110 mATX motherboard, again. If you need more hard drive space, consider investing in an external drive bay or a NAS.

>I'm a console streamer that occasionally streams on PC
KYS
Alright, an i5-6600 with an RX 460 for MOBAs and other cancerous garbage, GTX 1060/RX 470/RX 480 for AAA games on PC. Get a PCIe capture card that allows you to change the compression and image quality settings. Consider an ATX motherboard at this point, but you should be focusing on H110 mATX boards here as well.

>I'm a YouTuber
Get a real job, nigger
An i7-6700 with an H170 ATX motherboard. Why? Because fuck you, I want to see you continue to piss money down the drain.
>I also work with media (mostly 1080p/60FPS/max bitrate)
Stick with i7-6700 for faster rendering time, any video card depending on what sort of videos you make/how often you play games, and other PCIe devices for capturing audio, video from cameras/consoles, and PCIe SSDs. You actually have a need for an ATX board since you are using more than one PCIe device. And you can actually justify an H170 chipset because you need RST for RAID. Invest in a good cooler here to minimize the chances of thermal throttling when rendering long videos.
SSDs might be a necessity with recording max bitrate 1080p videos since their bandwidth often exceeds the write speeds of 7200rpm hard drives, even in RAID.
>(4K/30FPS)
X99 platform, i7-6800K, ATX/EATX motherboard, PCIe SSDs, max RAMs

>>56614234
Do you NEED an ATX board is the appropriate question.

>>56614536
>Do you NEED an ATX board is the appropriate question.

Yes, to keep my AMD GPU as far away from other components as possible, not everything is rated to run fine at 94° C.

>>56614446
What do I actually get from getting a better PSU? It's already gold rated.

>>56614110
i got some pretty insane deals on the parts i bought. like my 2x8gb ddr4 for 54 bucks. only thing i didnt really find a deal on was the psu

for now ill just game on my current computer and browse or whatever on the new build. im even considering wait an extra month after the 1050 release for a black friday deal >.<

>>56614588
a better psu will be quieter, run cooler, last longer and even if its gold+ itll have better efficiency than a lesser model. there's also all sorts of safety standards better models meet than lesser models.

corsair is fine. seasonic is amazing and evga is usually fine - amazing

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>>56614536
Cont.
>I'm a hobbyist who wants to get into overclocking
Welcome to the club, sempai!
Athlon X4 880K and an ATX A88X motherboard for you. Pentium G3258 and a cheap Z97 motherboard if you can still find any.
A Hyper 212 EVO is a good cooler for this bracket, but consider other <92mm air coolers with at least 6 heatpipes.
>I'm a little more familiar with overclocking now
i5-6600K and a sub $150 Z170 ATX motherboard. FX-8350 and an 990FX motherboard for lulz. Spend more on a decent air cooler with no less than one 120mm fan and 8 heat pipes, or a 120mm AIO. The FX CPUs need at least a 140mm fan cooler or a 140mm/240mm AIO.
>I am a rapist
Okay, an i3-6098P/i5-6408P and ASRock's H170 or B150 Fatal1ty Hyper ATX board. It's the only board that still supports Skylake BCLK overclocking ON ALL LGA 1151 CPUs. Same cooling requirements, but you'll need a fan blowing down on the motherboard to keep things in check.
>Just fuck my shit up, family
i7-6700K and a motherboard with no less than 8 power phases+redundancies. Air cooling might be enough for you if it has at least two fans (a single 140mm fan is fine if you're not interested in setting world records).
>No really, fuck my ass harder than a horse on a Brazillian tranny
X99, i7-5930K. Why not Broadwell-E? Broadwell sucks donkey dick from a gloryhole when overclocked beyond 4.0GHz. It's thermal behavior towards its peak frequency is abysmal, almost as bad as the i7-3770K with its shitty TIM.
240mm or greater AIO, dual 140mm air coolers, or a custom loop.

>>56614580
You should be looking at better cooling solutions then, not more real estate. At the very least, you should have invested in a case that allows a lot of ventilation where it counts. If you have an R9 290X, then consider aftermarket cooling solutions or AIO brackets for the thing. Water loop if you've got the money, the time, and a hatred of upgrading.

>>56614733
How about the Be Quiet BN250? It's in tier 1 so I assume it's good. It's just quite a bit more expensive than the one I chose, considering no real performance gain.

>>56614760
Actually, I'll probably go with the EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550w.

>>56614760
T1 and T2 are what you want unless youre REALLY trying to budget. i have a T2 and i love it

>>56614835
Or the 650w version since it costs the same.

>>56614850
yeah thats a good one for a decent price

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>>56614754
Last one, I promise
>I just want to shitpost on the Internet
Celeron N/J3160 or Pentium N/J3710 motherboards. I'd stick with the Celeron because it costs slightly less than the Pentium, but is very close in specifications. 6.5W TDP, so you can back it into a really small case and mount it to the back of your monitor's VESA mount. An A4-5000 motherboard can still be found for almost pennies now, even though it's just slightly slower than the newer Pentium boards. 4GB RAM, a SSD or even a flash drive will do. I built mine for under $200.

>I want a router, but I need to build one from scratch
Atom C2350/C2550 motherboards, especially the ones built by Jetway and Supermicro. They usually have more than two RJ-45 jacks and may have IPMI which is really sweet if you know what it is. Shame about the Java-based IPMI interface on Supermicro's part.
Supermicro and Jetway also makes Pentium N3700-based motherboards with 4 separate onboard NICs and IPMI for a slightly cheaper option. ECC not necessary, but it's nice to have on a 24/7/365 machine.

>...with VPN/SSH
C2358/C2558/C2758, although the latter two are still sufficient overkill for the task.

>NAS/File server only
C2550 with ECC RAM if you genuinely value your data. ASRock's mITX board has problems, but Supermicro's lacks SATA ports. Gigabyte is overpriced. You can stream from this NAS, but don't expect 1080p 60FPS transcode to run smoothly.

>Media server for multiple devices
C2750 is overpriced and underperforms here. You can do 1080/60FPS transcode without pushing it too hard, but it's not enough for two or more streams simultaneously. An i3-6100T+C232 motherboard or a Xeon-D1520 motherboard is the bare minimum for up to 4 simultaneous 1080p60FPS transcode or 2 4K/30FPS transcode.

>>56614945
>>56614754
>>56614536
>>56614160
Nice opinions
Stupid anime poster

>>56615015
Nice shitpost Trumpfaggot
Now go Make America Hate Again elsewhere

>>56613027
Ok. Both are fine if you dont tear the living shit out of your CPU. I'd get the cheaper of both.

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>>56615029
Daily reminder that liberals are mentally ill.

>>56607796
depends on what link it is

>>56614733
The efficiency difference from a $60 bronze PSU and a $160 platinum one is like 5%

Want to upgrade my CPU from this ancient AMD CPU I have currently, going to switch to DDR4 RAM as well. My budget is going to be 500$ CAD for a mobo, CPU, and RAM. What are my options for the processor? I want to aim for an i5 but just wondering if theres anything really better in that price range then the i5-6600K

I've got 4 motherboards with the same problem
they do turn on, fans spinning and everything, but no video or POST beep whatsoever...
already tried swapping ram, cpu, gpu, everything
so....what should I do? trash'em?

>>56614695
>waiting
>implying the 1050 will be out tomorrow
>implying there will ever be a sale on a month-old overhyped GPU

>>56616287
In that price range? Not really, everything else that's that good is either the exact same price +/- $10, $100 more for a questionable advantage or $100 less with a massive step down in power

>>56615033

Cool. Those motherboards are expensive anyway.

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>>56615623
This one:

>If you are uncertain about the minimum power supply requirement for your system, refer to the Recommended Power Supply Wattage Calculator at http://support.asus.com/PowerSupplyCalculator.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

>>56616453
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sjX2FT/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr5bk

What's a cheaper case that's not shit? the fractal design define r5 is now $110 which feels like too much for a case

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>>56603474
>Want to build new PC
>Cart build on newegg.ca
>$2500 Canabux

Never mind then.. I miss when I could buy parts from the USA at like $200+ discount because our dollar was good a few years back

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/46wfyf

r8? Will the parts fit in the case?
I plan ordering the whole thing tomorrow.

>>56617011
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9q4NnQ/evga-power-supply-220g20650y1

much better than the gs version

>>56617190
I can't find it on the catalog when trying to replace the GS with the G2.
Maybe the parts are incompatible?

>>56616504

I personally plan to buy Corsair 200R, dont know how about you.

Alternative is Zalman Z3 Plus, but it have a little less space inside (width 19cm, 200R have 21), but cost less and comes with lots of fnas included (200R have only two).

Here I go

processor
>Intel Core i7 6700K BOX (LGA 1151, 4GHz, Unlocked)

RAM
>HyperX Fury (2x, 8GB, DDR4-2133, DIMM 288)

GPU
>Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming (GP104, 8GB)

Mainboard
>Gigabyte Z170XP-SLI (LGA 1151, Intel Z170, ATX)

harddrive
>WD Red (3000GB, 3.5", NAS)

tower
>Corsair Obsidian 750D Airflow Edition (Big tower)

power supply
>Corsair RM750i (750W)

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>27" 1080p 144Hz monitor
>i7 4790K (4.4GB)
>both ~$330 on Amazon
Having a really hard time to decide which one to get, lads. I'm not drowing in cash, I can only buy one this year.
Which would you buy, provided you had one 1080p 60Hz 23" monitor and an i5 4430K (3GB)?

>>56617358
anything I should change?
I'm from Switzerland, this build costs around 1600 dollars

>>56617400
>Switzerland
No wonder you don't have a CPU cooler

>>56617418
damn totally forgot that

>>56617418
what do you think about the other parts though?

>>56617388
wait for zen

>>56617358
swap anything gigabyte with MSI/EVGA if you can find it for the same price

>>56617235
Yes, that psu was for gaming and your build is for browsing. Incompatible psu.

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>>56617595
Shit, I was planning to play some video games in that shit.
Looks like I'll gave to go MidTower.

>>56617573
I just bought a $400 gigabyte 1070 because the $410 EVGA one I was looking at jumped to $430
Am I fuckd

>>56617644
no gigabyte's fine, it's just that MSI/EVGA are a little bit better and have better software support

>>56617622
Good decision. Midi-Tower is a gaming form-factor.

>>56617666
You're not lying to me, are you Mr. Devil?

>>56617666
No midi-tower is for bustin sum mad dubstep

>>56617687
Be sure to find a compatible gaming psu.

>>56617358
How about an SSD for your OS at least?

>>56609104
If you're savvy, and research all the parts you're looking into, while simultaneously being willing to gamble money on u confirmed hardware. Well, you can stand to get one he'll of a system for a great price. Xeons in particular exist on a finicky platform that people are either unwilling, or flat out too ignorant to do some basic research on what is / isn't compatible.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xfLfyf

but with this hdd instead

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5AD3H22332

how do I look

already ordered the psu and fury

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>>56617771
how much capacity would you say I'd have to get? I'm planning on getting around 200-250 GB

>>56617573
>>56617644
is any of these better? they're almost half as expensive as the one in first post

>>56613815
No you fuck wit. I'm saying to go with the 6500 because the 6600 non k is a literal waste of money.

>>56612241
Nope

>>56613583
Both of your current monitors are fine.
Use the 1080 for gaming and the 720 for side tasks

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>>56617802
Looking good, enjoy the Fury.

Opinions on the 1060 3GB?

Is it good to get it if you're on a budget, or get something like the RX-480?

>>56618064
but I won't be able to plug it into my new GPU.
plus its really shitty.

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Okay, just to be sure - this build is okay? Nothing too cheap/poor quality for the rest of the components?

New thread:
>>56618544
>>56618544
>>56618544
>>56618544
>>56618544

>>56618138
It's a scam designed to pull all the money possible out of indecisive people
3GB vram already isn't enough for many games, and the requirement is only gonna go up

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I'm in the process of a mini upgrade.I can't decide if i want a water cooler (a corsair h100i) or an air cooler (noctua dh 15s) for a 4670k.

Which one do i get /g/?

>>56617497
It all looks good to me. Should be future proofed until the 8u i7 CPUs come out. Otherwise I don't see any glaring issues.
Is this what you're looking at buying, or your current build?

>>56617555
Explain

>>56616504
110€ for a case is ok, if you want cheaper options, look at Corsair R, Antec and Deepcool.
But believe me, dont take the cheapest you can get, youll regret it.
t. Idiot who bought a cheap case

>>56619027
I'm planning on buying it, still looking for SSDs and what not though, so it's not complete yet

>>56619027
>>56619326
thanks for your opinion by the way, I appreciate your help

REPOST IN NEW THREAD IF YOU STILL WANT ADVICE / OPINIONS

>>56618544
>>56618544
>>56618544

>>56619326
>>56619359
You might want to check to see if the mobo can handle the card, should be fine but can't hurt to check.
Kein Problem, Alter.