Will Linux ever become half as relevant as Windows in the enterprise

Your bait sucks

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>>56584770
Nice damage control, lincuck.

>>56584750
that 7682.8% growth for Oracle tho

>>56584770

I'll take that as a "no".

>>56584750
No, because Linux is unsupported, hacked together garbage.

>>56584842

They had just acquired Sun Microsystems, so they went from nearly 0 to all of Solaris.

>>56584750
No? Companies like products with support that isn't a bunch of disorganized weirdos.

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Windows is non-entity outside of laptop and desktop.

>>56585195
Of course it isn't, the other markets(outside of phones) aren't dictated by idiots.

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>>56585195

Is this a meme? Because Exchange, Microsoft Office, Active Directory, Sharepoint, etc., are literally the industry standard for enterprise e-mail, groupware and directory services. Linux isn't even a contender in that field.

Also, have you seen your own pic?

>over one third of webservers
>non-entity

>>56585270
>one third

That's a non-entity, that's AMD's marketshare a few years ago.

>>56585293

>Linux
>36%

You just shot yourself in the foot.

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>>56585293
Holy shit, freetards literally grasping at straws at this point!

>>56585270
Oh, I'm sure Windows is really popular in, SBS, but nobody really cares about that part of the enterprise market.

>>56585307
You wanna pretend UNIX doesn't exist and that it shares 80% of software with Linux?

>>56585379
>UNIX exists
it's been dead for like 20 years, Linux and (somewhat) BSD replaced it.

stop being stupid

>>56585195
Are you retarded?

There's no such thing as enterprise applications outside of Windows. ERPs, accounting software, logistics software, pretty much EVERYTHING enterprise runs on Windows-only.

You can't do any kind of RAD on any platform but Windows. Is there Visual Studio for Linux? Embarcadero C++ Builder for Linux? Heck, Linux doesn't even have an alternative to Microsoft Access!

Please take your fanboyism elsewhere, kid. You've obviously never worked in the real world.

>>56585421
BSD is Unix, so is OS X.
AIX, HP-UX and Solaris are very much not fucking dead.

>>56585429
Window is client only, no backend, enterprise or not uses Windows.

>>56585379
>moving goalposts
Nice try, but we were talking about webservers. Windows holds one third of webserver marketshare, Linux another, and various Unices hold yet another third, according to this freetard >>56585195's own source. You can stop being a sophist now.

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>>56585444
>no backend

>What is SQL Server?
>What is .NET?
>What is AppFabric?
>What is COM+?
>et cetera ad nauseam...

Shit son, stop embarrassing yourself!

>>56585477
It would be easier to say:

>What is 5% marketshare.

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>>56584750
Are we talking about GNU/Linux or Android? Because if we include Android (which runs on a Linux kernel) then a hell of a lot more devices are using Linux than Windows. Linux has won the mobile game. If Microsoft keeps fucking up their desktop OS then Linux in the form of GNU/Linux distributions like Ubuntu will slowly but surely kill them. When Ubuntu has full gaming support Windows will die and professionals who need image/video manipulation tools like Adobe Photoshop will use Macs. UNIX won. Get over it.

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>>56585444
What a waste of good trips. There's still time to delete this post and save yourself the embarrasment, anon.

>>56585444
Wow, you are really out of touch.

Windows is the standard in the business world, front-end and back-end.

>>56585491

>Unix won
Oh, so NOW Linux is Unix?

But when we're debating what a clusterfuck systemd is and how it goes diametrically against Unix philosophy, suddenly Linux isn't Unix anymore!

Nice cognitive disonance, retard...

>>56585525
I'm sure the marketshare numbers reflect that.

>>56585491

>muh android is linux
Yeah, and that's why it sucks so hard.

https://blog.lookout.com/blog/2016/08/15/linux-vulnerability-android/

>>56585270
>Because Exchange, Microsoft Office, Active Directory, Sharepoint, etc., are literally the industry standard in non-tech companies where 3 days of down-time are not an issue, security is not mandatory and the workload is composed of 99% of wageslaves shitting excel macros all day long.
FTFY

>>56585195
>W2K3
>2016


Jesus Fuck

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>>56585537
>Oh, so NOW Linux is Unix?
Where did I say Linux is UNIX? Literally where? I said UNIX won because because most operating systems used today are UNIX-like such as Android, Mac OS X, iOS, BSD, GNU, etc. Windows only used still because gaymens and it's preinstalled on most PCs. If Ubuntu had full game support and shipped with average PCs hardly anyone would care.

>>56585564
The link you posted makes you look like an even bigger fool. Try reading the articles you post. Just like Stagefright, devices in the wild are not being exploited with it. The article offers two easy fixes to keep users safe while Google works on patching it. Not to mention, there's a thread up about iOS 10 bricking iPhones. Check it out Pajeet.

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>>56585606

>non-tech companies
So the absolute majority out there?

>3 days of down-time
Like when your Samba configuration file fucks up your permissions?

>security is not mandatory
So you believe in security as a product? Tell me about that glibc DNS bug that compromised entire Linux systems not too long ago, anon.

Tell me what it is like having absolutely NO group policy enforcement software whatsoever. No mandatory access control solution that works without having to edit cryptic files like SELinux. Tell me about security on Linux, anon.

>workload is composed of wageslaves
Well, I work with the partners of one of the Big Four, and they don't shit excel macros all day, they shit QuickBooks reports all day long.

But whatever you say, I was 17 once too, I know how it is being mad that your favourite <insert brand/product here> isn't relevant.

>>56585719
>backpedalling hard
>downplaying a serious kernel-level breach
>calling your opponent a pajeet
Maximum damage control.

>>56585432
It's not dead but it is considered legacy.

>>56585806
>Unix is legacy
Maybe that's why Micro Focus just spent 8.8 billion USDs on buying out HP's Enterprise Software division...

>>56585782
While it is an issue, at least there's a fix you can apply without a computer and spending 45 minutes downloading an iOS 9 firmware praying it's still signed. I'll stick with Android, since it seems to "just werk" a hell of a lot better than Wangblows mobile or iOS.
>opponent
>thinking this is a fight
Autism. I called you a Pajeet because you are a Pajeet. Curry and rice on moped with timestamp.

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>>56585797
INCREASINGLY NERVOUS

>>56585675
>he thinks all companies can afford to shutdown the network to move on newer os

>>56585841
>A company that focuses on legacy bought a legacy division.

You're not good at proving your point.

>>56585847
>le racist microsoft-users-must-be-indians maymay XDDDDDDDD
Literally kys.

>>56585525
This is somewhat true because uninformed management assume microsoft is the only acceptable serious business solution. You're also somewhat out of touch yourself, because, at least for db, oracle and mysql blow ms sql server out of the water. Why postgres isn't ranked more highly than it is, I will never know. I blame bad management.

>>56585870
>focuses on upgrading legacy to up-to-date
FTFY

>>56584750
I really can't be bothered to care, honestly.

>>56585719
>I said UNIX won because because most operating systems used today are UNIX-like such as Android, Mac OS X, iOS, BSD, GNU, etc.
outside of phones (unless they magically become part of the goalpost now) all those os are completely irrilevant compared to win

>>56585898
Once again, your prove my point.

>>56585918
Now that's some serious delusion.

How much PCs got sold last year? Some 20 million? How much did everything else get sold?

>>56585875
>le racist
Hello plebbit. Were you expecting something else? If so, you may feel more at home on our lgbt board, you fucking faggot.

>>56585918
Unless you include servers. The only reason why you want to cherry pick is because it works in your favor. Look at the big picture (literally here >>56585195 ) and cry like a bitch.

why does market% matter

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>>56585954
>muh sheer quantities
Think about cost and relevance. Workstations and servers usually cost more than phones, therefore bring more profit. That's why Microsoft makes a lot more money. They also are employed towards more relevant applications than phones and tablets. Linux owning irrelevant shit like web-facing Apache/nginx http servers and number-crunching supercomputers means jack shit when all your meaningful enterprise data is on a Windows ERP and all your employees are using Microsoft Office to produce all that shit.

>>56586003

>Hello plebbit. Were you expecting something else? If so, you may feel more at home on our lgbt board, you fucking faggot.
Very edgy, but NOT AN ARGUMENT.

>>56586043
>NOT AN ARGUMENT
How wonderfully hypocritical!

>>56585195
Good thing I work in a HPC lab.

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>>56585539
Ever hear of Azure? It was even in your beloved TOP500 supercomputer meme-list once.

>>56586175
>this Windows software
>has majority marketshare on Windows

No shit.
Hahaha, Azure.
It's like some shitskin trying to sell me Virtualbox

>>56586175
>Azure
Wow. 9% marketshare among cloud services.

>>56586175
Azure isn't used anywhere else because it's shit, the alternatives are both better, more stable and mature.
It's like telling someone to run MPC-HC on Linux while he already has mpv

>>56586215
>shitskin
>>>/pol/

>>56586175
even microsoft doesn't use 100% windows, its sad

>>56586270
Azure is actually the best service MS has in a long time because it wants market share, it does it for cheaper and has better support than other cloud solutions.

>>56586295
Tool for the right job, it's just that Windows happens to be a tool that's perfect for most jobs.

>>56586314
And then you woke up or got ejected out of Nutella's buttcrack, whatever feels better.

>>56586355

Can the racist memes imported from /pol/ please stop?

This is getting out of hand.

>>56587567
No, wrongly colored one.

>>56587597

>blacks, gays and women aren't good at technology X^DDDDDDDDDD

This isn't funny anymore.

>>56587628
You aren't good at anything, much less technology.

<code>delete this</code>

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>>56585482

Keep telling yourself that.

>>56587650

Not funny. You can stop now.

>>56587672
Is this before node.js took over the world?

>>56587695

That's from a 2015 report.

http://intriggerapp.com/blog/web-technologies-benchmark-report/

>>56587695
well it does have coldfusion listed an nothing on python so i'm guessing this was sampled in the early 2000's. But then I'm confused since there is no cgi with perl soo...

>>56585429
>everything Windows
Sure if you are helpdesk.
Wonder why all tech iterate people use Windows ?
Because they grew up with it, schools only use MS stuff and still refuses free and good software.
If every school would only use Linux and every laptop that got sold uses Linux they would be using Linux and not Windows.
MS knows that and pays fat bucks and give allot of extra stuff to schools otherwise they would be replaced

>>56587727

It's from 2015. You just have a skewed view of the world, very distant from the actual. In 2012 there was a massive node.js job boom. By 2014, node.js hadn't reached 1% marketshare. It was a meme.

>>56587672
What is this nonsense? Where's the truckload of backend javascript, python and perl?

Where was this sampled? CNN and foxnews? It feels like shit's just plain missing.

>>56587672
No Go?

>>56587773

There's no such thing. Open source isn't nearly as popular as you freetards imagine. Believe it or not, companies would rather have the safety and familiarity of a supported proprietary solution like ColdFusion rather than some autistic undocumented freetardation, no matter what you think about it.

>>56587773
>>56587794
Stop with your skewed view of the world! Nobody has ever used anything unix to build a website other than ruby!

>>56587794

No what?

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>>56587810

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Meh.

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>>56587833

>implying enterprises commit professional proprietary code to public repositories

>>56587810
How can anon be this dumb?

>>56585606
>I never spent a day in a corporate environment let alone held a job: the post

An exchange incident concerning a single user has a 4 hour SLA where I work, there are regular security audits of all the file servers and domain controllers, all the Oracle databases run on Windows servers.
Linux is a joke that nobody takes seriously, literally 1 in 100 servers in our DC runs linux, unless you count ESX.

>>56587871
>professional proprietary code
I love ENTERPRISE

Now roll over and go sleep my child, ASP.net isn't even a thing.

>>56587695
node.js is shit and shilled constantly but nobody really use it

>>56587885
>marketshare figures clearly show Unix-like systems run 60%+ servers
>b-but 1 in 100 of MY COMPANY runs Linux

You must have some lovely incompetent managers.

>>56587885
>has a 4 hour SLA where I work
Here it's a trigger for dismiss and the reference will be only good to flip burgers.

>>56587567
>>56587628
>>56587686
This isn't a safe space in case you didn't notice.

Also, racism not only isn't "like, the worst thing everrr" it is natural and healthy

>>56587884
I'm just not a basement-dwelling NEET, I've actually been to an office building once and seen their IT systems. I've managed data centers. No amount of whining on your part will change the reality of the facts.

>>56587899
>ASP.net isn't even a thing
Sure thing, kid.

>>56587959
Those figures are about public facing http servers. Linux and BSD are cheap for mass shared hosting. No mission critical system runs that shit though. Those marketshare figures don't correspond to the enterprise world. Walk into any corporate data center and you'll see nothing but Windows Server. And if you think our managers are so incompetent, then it should be easy for you to do a better job and make six figures just like we do, shouldn't it?

>>56587988
>This isn't a safe space in case you didn't notice.
This is a blue board in case you didn't notice, numbskull!

>racism is natural and healthy
It is time to stop posting.

>>56587885
>audits
What do they audit the setup ?
Probably not the source code if it's Windows.
A good setup starts with open source software specially if you want to audit the shit out of it.
>inb4 they just follow some guidelines
Yes with open source you can add code fix bugs you find with an audit.
A good audit starts with the source

>>56587959
Except the plot posted by OP shows exactly the opposite, you retard.

>>56588001
>what is black box testing?
Oh boy, you ARE ignorant!

>>56587959
>marketshare figures clearly show
>web servers (2014), mainframes (2008), supercomputer (500 units)

Where do file, print, AD, DNS, DHCP, Exchange, AV, backup, WSUS etc etc servers fit in this comprehensive analysis?

>>56588001
They literally sit down hackers and have them try to get into the system any way they can. Please get a haircut and a job.

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>>56587989
>I've actually been to an office building once and seen their IT systems
> I've managed data centers
Yeah, plugged out their backup system and now spending some time with shitposting after many hours with that domestos.

>>56587999
>blue board

Who posted nudes? Because that's essentially what board colors are for. This is 4chan you stooge, maybe reddit is more your speed

>racism isn't natural and healthy

Go spend some time in a nigger neighborhood please. If you make it back alive, let me know if your attitude has changed

>>56588110
>>>/pol/
Back to your containment board

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>>56587999

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>>56585270
>Sharepoint an industry standard

Can I get a piece of software that allows me to do something with a file if an asshole intern checked it out and won't be back until Monday? I could just copy it and reupload it as a new file, I guess, but then I lose all the previous file information.

>>56588214
I case you haven't noticed, the pendulum is starting to swing back to the right, Trump will be president soon, and PC culture's death will soon follow.

Better invest in a good set of earmuffs you flaming little pussy, you're gonna need them

>>56588269
industry standard does not imply good

>>56588314
>Trump will be president
I laughed. Maybe that is your perception from your backwater shithole, but in the civilized world (see the vast majority) no one supports him. Tough break, guy.

>>56588314
We all knew it, but thanks for tacitly admitting the right is racist.

>>56588402
The overuse of your magic defense word has voided it of all meaning.

>>56588402
>We all knew it, but thanks for tacitly admitting the right is racist.
When you remember that it was the Republicans who pioneered emancipation of the slaves against the will of Southern Democrats today's politics make no sense.

>>56588402
"Racist" is a word that means nothing to me, and as the other anon stated, your and the left's overuse of the word means it's going to mean nothing to anybody else soon enough

>>56588349
>Maybe that is your perception from your backwater shithole

I'm a dual citizen who's lived his whole life in Toronto; try again. Maybe I just don't agree with PC culture and other marxist bullshit? You don't have to live on the shores of the Everglades to have those beliefs pal.

If people like you are representative of tech culture in general, no wonder the industry is a SJW and feminism infested mess.

Fucking wimp.

>>56588676
>Politics of 1860 translate well into 2016

>>56588874
You're right, the politics never changed; the democrats still own the slaves, it's just the slaves don't know it.

>>56584750
Linux dominates in numbers except revenue because Linux is not only better it is cheaper, you cant beat free in both price and source code,

>>56588314

This has NOTHING to do with left and right. It's about being a good or a bad person. Love is good and hate is bad, and you are bad people for hating others based on their race, nationality, sexual orientation or whatever.

I am a rightist too, I'm voting for Trump and I hate political correctness, but this hate thing has to stop. The right is not a hate ideology, it's a love ideology. We love family, country, Christ and tradition.

We don't want more immigration because we love our people and we want to value it. We want American jobs for Americans. We love our country and our culture, and immigrants may compromise that. We do NOT do it because we hate immigrants.

We are against feminism because we love our families and feminism destroys the family unit, not because we hate women.

And so on and on and on. We do not hate blacks, and hating other people based on their race is racism and it's wrong. It is racist and wrong to think blacks can't be just as successful as whites; it is misogynistic and hateful to believe that women can't be good at technology; etc.

This is the kind of bigoted reasoning that created nazism, and it is completely opposed to right-wing thought. Nazism was left-wing, and the right doesn't believe in hate. We have Christian values that are totally removed from hate and national SOCIALISM.

You are the kind of people who give the right a bad name and give the left ideological ammunition against us. You can fuck right off, you are NOT welcome here.

Also, just for the record, I am a Linux user, but I work on software development for Windows. Ask me anything.

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>>56589010
>Linux dominates in numbers

>>56584750
Nice blog Pajeet.

Linux is not a product.

>>56590799
>Love is good and hate is bad, and you are bad people for hating others

Who said I hated black people? I simply think, on average, they are inferior.

The world around you isn't as simple as love/hate friend, it's got many shades of gray

>>56591957
... this is satire, right? It must be...

>>56585859
>he doesn't see the problem

>>56592023
No, it isn't. Are you that sheltered that you think there aren't A LOT of people out there with views similar to this?

>race is a social construct

Keep believing that

>>56592173

>I-I don't hate blacks, o-ok? I just call them shitskins and think they're inferior!

Are YOU that sheltered that you've never met a black person before?

Prejudice is the fruit of ignorance.

>>56587695
Hasn't happened yet, but don't worry, they'll get the right framework out soon.

>>56587773
The majority of the world's websites run on Wordpress.

>and now you know the horrific truth

>>56587989
>No mission critical system runs on <Linux or BSD>

Somebody better tell NASA they're running a space station all wrong:
https://training.linuxfoundation.org/why-our-linux-training/training-reviews/linux-foundation-training-prepares-the-international-space-station-for-linux-migration

>>56592215
I've met many, some great (especially when not surrounded by other blacks), most are the types I never want to associate with again. I think it is you who hasn't met enough of them, or have been to their neighborhoods

>thinks I hate blacks

Just because I think their inferior doesn't mean I hate them. I think Linux is superior to Windows, doesn't mean I hate Windows.

It seems you're the type that thinks if you don't love something you by default hate it. It's a little more complex than that.

>>56584750
In enterprise networking it's more relevant. Exchange servers are behind load balancers running Linux.

>>56592324

>their neighborhoods are the way they are because of the blacks
>what is US history?

You should have stayed in school, you know...

>>56592350
Jews lived in ghettos and were "oppressed" even more so than blacks, yet they've risen above. Why can't blacks do the same? Must be something else holding them back, huh?

>>56592404
they are gemetically dumb, duh

>>56592404
>Why can't blacks do the same?
Because the Jewish are the chosen people, anon.

>>56592404
Go read some books about history.
Or just kill yourself and spare us.

>>56590799
>Hurr durr Nazism is left wing because national SOCIALISM

Nice bait
Nobody can be this dense... can they?

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>>56592607
I hope you're just pretending to be retarded.

>>56592331
I've always heard BSD is better for networking and storage stuff due to pf and ZFS

>>56593429
Not every BSD have zfs and pf is only relevant on OBSD.

>>56587755
>every single company is a tech company

Jesus christ you people are dense

>>56588001
>the only thing that matters is the code

It's always easy to spot people who have never actually dealed with anything they're talking about in real life

>>56585429
>Is there Visual Studio for Linux?
y-yes?

>>56587672
>Flash
>Dreamweaver
>ColdFusion
What year is it? Literally nobody uses ColdFusion anymore.

>>56594574

Stay in denial, freetard...

>>56595703
https://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=coldfusion,django,joomla,wordpress

>>56596100

>being so rectally shattered over the facts that you just keep trying to deny them

LOOK AT THE GRAPH >>56587672

>>56596183
>posts 10 years old picture
>guys, people totally still use Flash and ColdFusion!

>>56596224

Wow, before 4chan was created, what did you use to do to embarrass yourself?

It's a 2016 picture with data from 2015. See >>56587720.

There's still time to delete your posts.

Who the fuck is gartnet

>>56584750
>based Red Hat ahead of Apple in both revenue and marketshare
This gives me a warm fuzzy feeling

>>56596539
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gartner