/mkg/ - mechanical keyboard general

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And the old thread

>>56554852

Topre or Matias tactile. Which is better?

>>56581790
There was a drop on Massdrop not too long ago with like ~15$ shiiping to my country when on unicomp its over 100. Maybe it will show up again

Anyone try an Unicomp EnduraPro?

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>>56583932
topre, by far

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the first part to my next meme board got here...

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>>56584242
It's a planck/some other ortholinear, isn't it?

>>56584200
Have you tried both?

>>56584285
planck

for now it's just a super thin block of wood i already snapped and glued together once :^)

Can i order blank keycaps on a custom build on unicomp? like every non-modifier key blank

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>>56584299
yes

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>>56584336
You better not be putting more memios in there

>>56583932
Marias clicky and matias quiet click and Realforce owner here.
Matias tactile is better if you like clicky, seeing as they are the best modern clicky switch. Topre is good if you like feeling good oneness with cup rubber.
Disadvantage of Alps is it's impossible to get good keycaps, while realforce boards come with the best keycaps you can get.

>>56584421
going to put some lubed gateron blacks in

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>>56584336
>>56584450
On that note, what kind of wood is that?

I'm not sure if your camera is just a piece of shit or if that's actually composite.

Also, good choice of switches. Gateron blacks are very nice.

>>56584438
>come with the best keycaps you can get
Eh. They're quite decent and the profile is nice, but 1mm PBT is hardly "the best"

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>>56584468
it's cedar wood, definitely wouldn't be my first pick, but the wood inserts on his site are just the shitty leftovers from one of the last planck drops on massdrop

going to stain it with the same dark walnut stain i used for muh atreus later tonight/tomorrow.

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>>56584576
What'd be your first pick?

I want to try cutting shit out of wood with the CNC, namely plates, maybe cases if I have enough play on the z-axis, and keycaps once I get into 3D CAD.

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>>56583517
emailed you back with project idea also let me know if have the time to do a case for the mini. It would have to be two wood layers one for bottom then a top cover plate.

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>>56584629
given the original massdrop options had i'd go walnut, otherwise maybe some kind of meme exotic wood

and that would be cool. wood cases have always particularly stood out to me

>>56584576

that is some trypophobia fuel shit

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what are some cool mods i can do on a unicomp?

Help me out here guys, blank or not?

also i to touchtype

>>56584829
You can modify your trash bin to be a trash bin with a cool keyboard in it :D

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SoonTM

>>56585244
Do what you want. Blank is better if your printing options suck though.

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>>56584829
You can start with converting it to a 103 so you get the full size space bar. 104 sucks

>>56585625
Well meemd my friend

>>56585677
fuck

Just bought myself a fukken Unicomp, when it arrives im gonna go clickclack so hard on LAN partys

Is the poker worth it? I mean it looks like smaller keyboards have the same amount of functionality and things like the keycool 84 have way more function with only an extra row & column of keys (not taking into account programability, just preset layers)
I might just build a planck for this reason.

>>56585947
Are worth it but dont expect them to last years

I can't decide if I want to try a unicomp or go for the real deal... Help me :(

I've been thinking about getting a wooden keyboard case for my Poker 3, but I can only really find the datamancer which kinda looks like shit. Is there any good ones out there?

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Just cleaned this up, the thock sounds are quite pleasant.

>>56585971
I don't see why not? Alu frame, doubleshot PBT keys, steel plate mount. Can't think of anything fragile here.

Anyone using matias quiet clicks?

can't decide if these >>56585677 are worth the price

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>>56586050
Make your own

>>56586121
I don't know if they are, but I'm still probably going to get them.

>>56586114
I had one but returned it becuase it shipped with key chatter. Still felt nice.

>>56585677
Are these Cherry, or Topre?

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>>56586304
They're cherry.

More info here.
https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige

>>56586047
Just ordered mine. I cant fucking wait for international shipping! Its gonna take like 2 weeks

>>56583517
got a link? building it yourself or is it a kit? have a thread on /diy/?

Are unicomp keycaps PBT or ABS?

>>56586047
>https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige


Just offer him/her like $60. They don't go for too much on ebay.

>>56586665

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-1392595-Model-M-Clicky-Keyboard-/201661490819?hash=item2ef3f62683:g:EoUAAOSwHoFXvyk-

Wrong link..

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>>56586534
It's a 200-something bucks kit from aliexpress. Don't know the link since this is provided by the school that I'm attending, though if you're interested I could ask the instructor.

The motors can execute movements of 1/300th of a millimeter. Here's a cutout that was done with another machine like this earlier today, and that's with shitty composite that fuzzes at the edges.

No thread on /diy/, but I'll be setting up a simple blog-style website sometime in the next few weeks if you're interested in keeping track of that and the things that I'll make with it.

>>56586680
>Interface: RJ45

He'll need a Soarer's converter too though.

>>56586862
Ah yeah..didn't catch that part. You can get ps/2 ones for about that price too though. I've purchased 3 or 4 of my model M's off ebay, some in immaculate condition for around $65 after shipping.

Anyone else hype for Nantucket Selectric?

>>56586813
yeah, they are just stepper motors. you can get controllers that can do micro-stepping
how about the electronics or software you use with it?

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Just fixed up this omnikey 102. This keyboard is a tank.

How long do you guyd think a custom unicomp will take to arrive in Scandinavia?

Anyone have that picture that compares the different switches?

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>>56587058
It uses an arduino to interface between the computer and the machine. There's another PCB on which the arduino sits that has another chip on it. Unfortunately I don't remember the name of that one, or the name of the software that we use. Though you're not the first to ask me, hit me up again tomorrow and I'll be able to tell you everything you want to know about the machine.

>>56587303

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not happy with how the stain turned out on the super shitty planck wood insert

i might buy a chunk of macassar ebony (not this much) and have an insert custom made

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>>56587335

>>56586114
Enjoying my quiet pro. Strong tactility and they're dampened on both down and up stroke.

Anyone know where I can buy affordable side print pbt keycaps?, I want to replace my stock quickfire rapid keycaps.

>>56588246
aliexpressis a good site

>>56588303
Is it safe?

>>56583501
what's a mechanical keyboard ?

it fix your car or something ?

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>>56588329
yes. I've bought stuff from there before like pic related

>>56588353
lol

pathetic.

>>56588330
its the only keyboard that's compatible with Alldata automotive software

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>>56588385
I'm not spending $150 on a keycap set. 35 is more then enough regardless of worse it is compared to the original

>>56588413
I guess I'd just rather have the original than a knockoff.

>>56588385
pathetic compared to paying 5x as much to wait 6 months for assdrop shipping?

makes sense.

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>>56588413
>I'm not spending $150 on a keycap set
why are you even here

>>56589605
to shitpost on why IBM model Fs are the best keyboard in the whole world

>>56587335
>that pic

Unless those whites were made in the 80s they're the same weight as green. They just don't kick the clicker up as hard, making them sound softer.

>>56589793

Unicomp Model Fs when

What can I get so I can be gucci gucci vendi vendi prada all em basic bitches want em so I don't even bother

>>56584421
Oh dude, when did you polish up that wood case? It looks almost respectable now.

>>56590126
well if they made them with the same quality as the old ones then prepare to pay $700+

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>>56590145
get a hipster model F

>>56590145
you could learn the lyrics correctly

>>56590126
>>56590170

The patents are expired so technically any chinkboard manufacturer could build and sell them worldwide.

>>56590233
most of the model F was built with metal. Even if the chinks were to do it it would still be very expensive. Just think what the shipping costs of a 10 lbs keyboard would be

>>56590326

Model Fs weigh between 5-9lbs depending on variant but most of your cost in shipping anything substantial is on the first pound. Also chinks pay fuck-all for shipping.

I'd gladly settle for a Model-M like build though, with a modern layout, not-shit rivets and the F's capacitive switches.

>>56583501
'm a little lost with what i should get or if i'm looking at decent things, because I've never had a mechanical keyboard.
>Budget
less than $100
>Location
USA
>Preferred switch type
Again no clue but, I play shooters when gaming and use my computer for schoolwork & shit posting
>Form factor
probably looking for and 80% TKL
>Backlight
White prefered
>Previous/current keyboards
Razer Lycosa? basically garbage especially with limited desk space.

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>>56591209
I'd recommend you get PBT keycaps or else your keyboard will look like pic related in a few weeks, dye sub is preferred, but they are on the pricey side. Anyway fill out the filters and pick one of these that you like
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=&size=&led=&capmat=2&capprint=&model=&availability=&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

>>56591300
thanks, any recommended switches? I was thinking cherry reds or something like it but I don't know how these other switches like gaterons, compare.

>>56591373
To get a general sense see
>>56588041
>>56587335
Gaterons are smoother then cherry mx switches and alps/matias are more tactile then both. Kailh, Outemu, KBT are also cherry clones that feel about the same.
My preference is tactile and loud switches which is why I have an IBM model M with buckling springs, but if you want linear switches then reds and blacks are the way to go. If you want tactile switches stay away from browns as the tactile bump that cheery uses is pretty bad. Matias makes really nice alps clones which is what I would go for.

looking to get a smaller keyboard for use with my laptop

>Budget
$100-$200 USD
>Location
USA
>Preferred switch type
i've used reds, browns, and blacks and am fine with all of them, switches aren't really a big deal for me honestly. no blues/greens tho
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
80% or smaller
>Backlight
unnecessary
>Previous/current keyboards
ducky one, ducky shine 5

what d'you suggest, /mkg/?

>>56591450
why not try some matias quiet click switches?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=32&size=60%25&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

>>56591450
If you want to use it with a laptop I suggest going 60%

try out this though nigga it'll make you gucci gucci vendi vendi prada on a nigga https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1772

>>56591450
V60 or Poker is your best bet
unless you want something like a Keycool 84

I want something heavy, but also something that feels nice to type on.

I was thinking about getting a blue skcm board, but It's expensive.

How do matias switches feel? Should I go gateron or cherry and what switch?

>>56591801
>How do matias switches feel?
Like blues but heavier, smoother, and a higher actuation, and deeper sound. Pretty much universally agreed to be better than green. Go look up an Alps white typing demonstration because the sound is the best part.

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Hi. I'm new to mechanical keyboards. I bought a Qisan Magicforce about 2 weeks ago. It has Cherry MX Green Switches. I really like it.
I have one problem though. In Linux, I can't open the terminal using Ctrl+Alt+F2. Because my keyboard has no functions key row, I have to hold down the function key and press 2 while entering in this combination of keys, but unfortunately the key combination doesn't work.

Does anyone know of a solution to my problem?

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So, I'm wanting to mod the hell outta an already existing keyboard, I've got a budget of $100 total, spent $33 on switches and $15 on caps, so i've got around $50 to spend on a board. I was thinking about getting a cheap chinese boards, like a tokomo board since the price and the switches don't matter so long as they're cherry clones, but it's got that "floating key" style thing going on and I don't wanna go about making a faceplate if I can get one that already has one.

I really like the look of the CM Storm Quickfire rapid, but that's out of the price range, even used. I'm looking for something very professional, square, and simple, and those keyboards that are just the floating key style without a faceplate just don't have the look I'm going for.

just to simplify

>Budget
$50
(shipping included)
(used is fine if not in shit/broken condition)
>Location
USA
>Preferred switch type
Doesn't matter, so long as they're cherry/cherry clones
(gonna be replaced)
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
TKL
>Backlight
No, but no a deal breaker
>Previous/current keyboards
Rosewill thing w/cherry blues
Logitech G710+
(current) Blackwidow X Chroma TE

Planning on taking the board and slapping some gateron reds with o-rings on it to see how quiet and smooth I can get a board.
Just looking for something simple and not gaudy or gamer looking, just plain and square.

>>56592467
How about you stop being a nig

>>56592467
why don't you just buy a pcb and a case?

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>>56592485
Whaddya on about now.

>>56592499
Because all the ones I'm finding are almost the price of an entire cheap board for just a PCB. Many of the ones i find that aren't $60 just for a PCB don't have widely available cases, so you have to make it yourself and I'm not planning on building a whole keyboard from the ground up.

>>56592560
What are you even doing?

>>56592593
As stated in the post, take a TKL board, and replace the switches on it with some gateron reds since i can only seem to find gateron reds on 60% boards that cost a pretty penny for it's size and the fact that it's, technically, using chinese knockoff switches.

Now, I'm looking for something like a cm storm quickfire rapid or a ducky one tkl, in terms of design. Simple, square, flat, not-gaudy, and that has a faceplate.

>>56592692
Then why are you even asking just find something that is cheap it doesn't matter

What board should i get for ≤80$? Things I care about are no shitty gamer fonts and the numpad.
I don't care if the switches aren't Cherry.

I live in Europe if that matters.

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>>56592710
I'm partially going for looks too, and every cheap board i'm finding has the flat floating key look without a faceplate. I want something with a faceplate and i can find nothing with one in my price range.
I've asked on here before about keyboards and people have brought up boards that i didn't even know about, which is why i'm asking. I wanna know if there's anything within my price range that's TKL with a faceplate.

>>56592747
get this weeb board https://www.amazon.com/IBM-Japanese-Lettering-Computer-Keyboard/dp/B00SXBT46O?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00SXBT46O

>>56592800
Estimated shipping & handling
$56.50

>>56592856
That's belolow 80$ isn't it?

Anyone got any recommendations for a tkl wrist rest?

>>56592865
A dildo

>>56592863
Fuck you

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>>56583501
Bought this "mechanical feel" on a budget. I hope it's relatively clicky (I hear 60 grams with a midpoint or whatever). Model M200 under many brand names. Anybody use this piece of shit before?

>>56593005
That is the ugliest thing I have seen in my life. The keycaps aren't even straight on the promo picture what the fuck?

>>56593022
It's probably a dust crumb style. It's prolly a membrane with a tight fitting square on top of a circle. Youtube helped little. It was 24. I figure my stoned ass won't recognise real mechanicals anyways. Plus this economy blows

>>56593005
>>56593031
What the fuck is wrong with you? You could've just bought an old used keyboard at goodwill

What is mechanical feeling?

>>56593048
My sad life without nice things

>>56591801

Blue ALPS are the best, but as you noticed they're expensive/difficult to get a hold of. Complicated and simplified white ALPS are fairly common in older keyboards so they're far easier to get (esp. simplified). Blues are the smoothest of the three and have the deepest clicking sound. Complicated whites are a bit less smooth and higher pitched than blues. Simplified whites are a bit less tactile than complicated whites. All three of these ALPS switches are deeper sounding and more tactile than cherry blue/green/white.

Matias tactile switches are basically simplified white ALPS and they're a pretty good modern replacement for them.

>>56594117

con't:
The difference between complicated and simplified ALPS is the contact mechanism: Simplified just uses two metal contact leaves that get pushed together by the slider. Complicated switches have a whole little assembly housing the contacts like a plastic and metal sandwich, where the slider pushes one contact through a little window to touch the other. The complicated mechanism adds noticeably to the switch tactility, so those ones are more tactile and generally more highly regarded.

>>56592402

The keyboard literally isn't capable of sending that key combination. The Fn key doesn't function correctly in conjunction with any other modifiers, so it's impossible to ctrl-alt-Fkey. You can probably guess the designers didn't have Linux in mind.

Want to create/solder my own keyboard for fun and because I've never done it before.

What's the best keyboard parts I can buy for $500 and what exactly do I need?

just pulled the FUCKING trigger on steel series 6gv2 for 65$, did i do good?

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>>56593048
>What is mechanical feeling?

Usually rubber dome with slider, where the slider and slider well are modified to interact and produce extra tactility.

Pic related; it's a Thermaltake Knucker dome with slider. Note the construction.

>>56591498
seems interesting. not too sure about em though that could just be due to having only used cherry switches in the past.
>>56591692
>>56591776
yeah i'm probably gonna wind up going 60%. thanks for your suggestions! i'm leaning more towards poker for the aforementioned "i've only used cherry and change scares me" reasoning but i'm at least considering the v60.

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>>56594257
You can find all kinds of kits on AliExpress, though with that budget, gonskeyboardworks and winkeyless.kr would probably be more interesting to you.

Or you could design your own PCB and have it printed, get your case cut/milled or also do that yourself and also makes/have someone laser cut you a switch plate.

>>56594907

so when are you opening shop man?

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>>56594920
You mean doing custom builds on request?

Probably not until the start of next year. I need to set up a website, and I want to get more experience with various materials before I start doing this kind of stuff for pay. I don't always care about perfection if its something for myself, but if I'm selling something with my name on it, I sure as hell will.

If I'm constantly bottoming out my blues, should I be getting greens on my next kb?

>>56595193
Yes

>>56594283
No.

Any suggestions about silencing NT spacebar?
It's so fucking load

if a company describes a keyboard as cherry mx with out saying the colour, what colour will they be?

>>56595818
The fucking rainbow. (If they're that unspecific, maybe expect Cherry knockoffs like Kalih or some shit.)

>>56595871
Well this is a German company, cueb.de

>>56595996
most likely black cherry switches like the old POS keyboards since the 80s

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Where do I get control-keys or entire keycap sets for the Logitech G710+? I tried online and every time the CTRL-keycaps are already sold out, Logitech support doesnt answer either.
Someone told me I have a nonstandard botrtom row and I cant find info on where I can get a specific bottom row either

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>>56596041
Sorry but most keycap sets don't support the non standard layouts that corsair and logitech use. Some GB may include these extra keys if you need, but I recommend you ask first or else you end up like pic related

Can anybody inform me the exact dimensions of a 6.00 spacebar and a 6.25 one? Looking to order keycaps for my keyboard and I cannot find a template explaining it for my specific keyboard or any dimensions based off of measurement

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>>56596160
I hope this helps but take your spacebar out and place it on your keycaps. If it fits over 6 of them then its a 6.00u spacebar. Mine fits a bit over 6, bit less then half so its a 6.25u spacebar

>>56596099
What's a GB
Also, the problem is, i NEED control-keys, absolutely. They are both broken, I need to press the switch instead.

>>56596160
>>56596265
If you want a better measurement take out 6 keycaps and place them next to each other, then put your spacebar right besides them. 6u will be as long as 6 keycaps, 6.25 will be a bit longer then 6 keycaps

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>>56596340
>They are both broken
what do you mean? The switch is broken or the keycaps are broken?
GB means group buys. If you look at the deskthority and geekhack fourms you see people hosting GB for keycap sets like pic related

>>56596379
The keycaps are broken. the little cross that fits on the key has lost 3 of its 4 sides, so it can't stay on the switch anymore.
what good is a damn GB for a new keyset if the lower row is included in no single keyset?

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>>56596396
Thats why you ask. Some GB have the keys you need like this, and others don't

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>>56596442
thanks for the info.
Here, have this

>>56594171
Perhaps there is an alternative solution?

>>56596581
Change your keybinds for the terminal, shouldn't be a problem given the customizability of Linux

>>56596265
>>56596345
Oh shit thanks guys I appreciate it, seems like my spacebar is indeed what I thought it was which is a 6.0. I've been looking all over the internet for a simple grey spacebar and have yet to find one that is under $10, anybody have any suggestions?

Is there such a thing as a quiet mechanical keyboard? I hate the loud ass clicker clack but I love the feel.

>>56596840
all keyboards produce noise if you bottom out, even rubberdomes. The best solution might be to buy a linear switch like blacks then replace the springs with something heavier like
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1868.
Of course you can also buy pads and O-rings to help dampen the noise as well

>>56596840
Matias Quiet switches.

>>56596840
>>56597200
Can vouch for Matias quiet. I got one and my keyboard is quieter than any one else's in the office.

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>Budget
<200€

>Location
Finland

>Preferred switch type
Still researching, but preferably little to no noise. I do slam my keys with considerable force to make enough noise for me. Will mostly be used for video games, but nothing that requires a large amount of inputs at a time.

>Layout
ANSI, preferably with nordic inputs

>Form factor
TKL

>Backlight
Yes, preferably with a on/off switch.

>Previous/current keyboards
G15 what I've grown to detest.

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Why do I want this so much?

What's the best switch among the "lighter" ones?

>>56596840
Thirding Matias quiet. I've got a Quiet Pro PC and it makes less noise than my old HP rubbersome. The keys are dampened on both the down and up stroke, so they don't clack popping back up either.

>>56596677
Thank you.

>>56598055
For linears, reds and gateron clears.
For tactile switches, blues and maybe gateron browns. Don't bother with cherry browns, they suck.

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>>56597475
Because it looks fucking cool. I'd want to get one myself if I weren't this close to building something of the sort myself.