http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/13/1 2890050/adblock-plus-now-sells-ads

>>56580609
You can't really blame them. They've got to get their money somewhere. The question though is why anyone would keep using abp when there are so many better alternatives.

>>56580630
>there are so many better alternatives.

I can only name two umatrix and ublock origin, everything else seems shit

>>56580641
mean to say uhide

>>56580641
Is there some niche that uMatrix isn't fulfilling?

This feels like another one of those Furryfox cases where everyone complains how it's shit but in non-specific ways

>>56580641
uBlock Origen is an ad hider. The only real alternative to blocking ads right now is with your hosts file.

>>56580759

I get a feeling that people try to find alternatives and stick to it to feel like special little snowflakes

>>56580674
>>56580809
Literally any proof of the uHide meme?

and ofc everyone should be blocking at the router level anyway

>>56580630
>You can't really blame them. They've got to get their money somewhere.
is this a defence of adblockers or the advertising industry

>>56580674
>>56580809
>>56580874
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Does-uBlock-block-ads-or-just-hide-them%3F

>>56580809
>uBlock Origen is an ad hider
No.
It is not.
This is completely 100% wrong.

You can literally check to see if the ad connected in your browser's console.

>>56580874
>Literally any proof of the uHide meme?

It used be ironic meme that turned into ironic shitposting

>>56580976
You can provide as much proof as you want. Shills/Idiots like >>56580809 will still keep posting, despite having 0 evidence.

Honestly they should be banned on the spot

>>56580985
>that turned into ironic shitposting

which turned into actual shitposting

>using an extension based adblocker instead of blocking ads via hosts file

>>56581026
>rgggg stop doing things the easy way raaargh

>>56581026
APK pls.

>>56581026
>manually adding entries to hosts file every single time you want to block something
>ad changes ip
>now you have to modify hosts file again instead of having it automatically updated by a dedicated team
>not just using hosts file + noscript + ublock origin combo

using hosts file only is stupid.

>>56580976
thank you based anon. Pajeet on /g/ almost managed to trick me

>>56581071
Do not thank me, thank based gorhill.

>>56581071

>tfw Pajeet

>tfw actually trying to clear the misinfo around uBlock so ABP becomes less popular

Why do fags love to hate uBlock Origin just like how they love to hate qbittorrent?

>>56581298
Because these fags have autism.
Welcome to 4chan, newfag.

>>56581298
I use it. There's a lot of clueless edgy teens on here.

>>56581298
I use ublock origin, but I love shitposting about uhide.

>>56581164
Not all pajeets are created equal

>>56580609
Adblock plus makes me laugh in ways i never thought possible.

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>>56581363
I like you. I do the same with Linux.
Despite using and living it, i love to trigger GNIfags.
Works every time, try it.

so I should switch to ublock origin now?
can ublock do element hiding shit too?
element hiding shit is the main reason I've been continuing to use ABP despite there being nothing but bad news about it for years

>>56581444
yup

>>56580609

>Adblock Plus is launching a new service that... uh, puts more ads on your screen.

>Rather than stripping all ads from the internet forever, Adblock Plus is hoping to replace the bad ads — anything it deems too big, too ugly, or too intrusive — with good ads, ones that are smaller, subtler, and theoretically much less annoying.

>It’ll begin doing that through an ad marketplace, which will allow blogs and other website operators to pick out so-called “acceptable” ads and place them on their pages. If a visitor using Adblock Plus comes to the page, they’ll be shown those “acceptable ads,” instead of whatever ads the site would normally run.

>“It allows you to treat the two different ecosystems completely differently and monetize each one,” says Ben Williams, Adblock Plus’ operations and communications director. “And crucially, monetize the ad blockers on on their own terms.”

>The marketplace is a extension of the Acceptable Ads program that Adblock Plus has been running since 2011. Since then, the ad blocker has defaulted to “whitelisting” approved ads, so that they show up even when users have the blocker turned on. But the program has been fairly limited in scope, since publishers and ad networks need to specifically work with (and pay) Adblock Plus to have their ads deemed acceptable. It’s a time-consuming process, Williams emphasized, which limits how many websites can sign up to display ads to would-be blockers.

>dblock Plus hopes that, through this new marketplace, there’ll be a big expansion in the usage of Acceptable Ads. Because they’re already picked out and ready to go, any publisher will be able to sign up, plug some code into their website, and start running whitelisted ads. None of the ads are able to track visitors from site to site, and they’ll all be limited to certain dimensions and page locations, as defined by Adblock Plus’ guidelines.

>>56581513

>The program is meant to be friendly to publishers — it is, after all, letting them display some ads instead of none whatsoever. But there’s still obvious reason for publishers to be unhappy. Acceptable ads are likely to be less valuable than the ads a publisher could otherwise display, limiting what a website can earn. And in setting up its own marketplace, Adblock Plus continues to position itself as a gatekeeper charging a toll to get through a gate of its own making.

>Publishers will get to keep 80 percent of all ad revenue from marketplace ads, with the remaining 20 percent being divided between various other parties involved with serving the ads. Adblock Plus will receive 6 percent of total revenue.

>Williams says he can see why publishers might be unhappy with this arrangement at first, but he says the Acceptable Ads program is meant to solve a problem that would exist no matter what. “Ad blocking would have happened with or without us,” says Williams. “What we were able to do is try and reverse the spread of 100 percent black-and-white ad blocking, blocking everything ... Acceptable ads was a pivot toward what we think is better.”

>The ad marketplace is launching in beta today and is supposed to launch in full later this year. At the same time, Adblock Plus is working toward setting up a committee of publishers, privacy advocates, and advertisers to figure out the future of what its Acceptable Ad guidelines should look like. That too is supposed to get nailed down sometime later this year, with committee meetings beginning next year.

>>56581444
No, it only hides the ads.

>all these "ublock doesn't block" shitposters that get filtered by 2 simple regexp lines
It's like an adblocker, only for shitpost

>straight up ripping off Brave

>>56581444

It can do everything ABP does and whilst hogging less ram

>>56581513
>>Rather than stripping all ads from the internet forever, Adblock Plus is hoping to replace the bad ads — anything it deems too big, too ugly, or too intrusive — with good ads, ones that are smaller, subtler, and theoretically much less annoying.

Hate to be a kike but this isnt exactly too awful. Ad revenue is the mainstream revenue model for most websites so types of ads similar to ones shown on 4chan are somewhat acceptable

>>56580641
>adhider origin
enjoy your malware idiot

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>>56581613
gorshills, everyone

>>56581762
>>56581729

fuck I just installed ublock

should I uninstall and go back to ABP?

I don't know who the fuck to trust anymore

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>>56580630
>adblock
>shows adds
>you can't really blame them

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>>56581784
If you want malware and hidden ads keep uBlock
If you want relaible adblocker use Adblock/Adblock Plus

So from now on I'll have to use hosts lists for adblocking.
Kind of sucks.

so, AdBlock is now SHITE
Ublock is SHITE

WHATS THE ALTERNATIVE FFS
WHAT SHOULD I GET

>>56581873
http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

>>56580609
2 days ago i tried ublock origin, and it hanged the browser on kisscartoon.me
>inb4 watching cartoons
>inb4 botnet players on shit sites
>inb4 you have to turn of adblock plus to watch videos there.
all valid points but still i prefer site to tell me i should disable adblock instead of hanging the browser.

>>56581762
ABP shills sure do everything to get revenue
>we don't block ads, we replace them
>adBLOCK
Whew lad

>>56581938
>autism

>>56581762
>>56581845
Link to commit or never happened.
>adblock shills on suicide watch

>>56581298
Qstalledmeme it's legitimately pure shit

These will only appear to people with acceptable ads enabled. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together disabled that when they installed it.

>>56581363
lol same

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>>56581971
>Accaptable ads
This does not exist
>default ON

>>56580609
is this why adblock plus doesn't block ads on pornhub anymore?

>>56581879
Thank you

This has to be the thread with most baits I've ever seen.

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https://adblockfast.com/

What would be the best ad blocker for Safari?

>>56583235
>7 rules
>1/7000 of the rules for 1/5 of the performance

>>56581513
>>56581525
So it's basically the same idea as behind that 'Brave' browser?
Replacing ads with own ads?

>>56581710
On desktop I allow first-party ads. Seems to work well. The terrible ads usually come from nasty third-party ad networks. Also, you should take 4chan off your whitelist; since Hiroyuki took over it has lots of terrible ads.

>>56581784
The hiding thing is a retarded meme, the autistic drama was certainly real though.

>>56583851
4chan switched from self-hosted ads to zkcdn already when moot was still the owner.
I did whitelist 4chan's ads, but those 3rd party ads were automatically blocked since day 1 and I never unblocked them.

>>56580641
>not blocking ads on a hardware level

>>56581784
You're a fucking moron if you actually believe everything you read on /g/.

>>56581784
>I don't know who the fuck to trust anymore
It's quite simple unless you inherited your stupidity from your parents or your head was stuck in your mother's vagina during birth and the lack of oxygen had permanent consequences:
You trust those who provide proof in the form of highlighted code proving the existence of the issue, and the explanation of the code which was validated.

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Remember him /g/? Remember Chris?

why dont you just disable javascript which is the root of all problems

>>56585312
is he the original adblock creator or somethin?

>>56585312
fuck that greedy kike

>>56585425
He was porting the original project to safari, and took over the project after gorhill left. The only "development" he contributed after he took over was to start asking for donations.

>>56581845
>>56581762
wtf i hate uHide now

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>>56585312
>>56585443
Heh

>>56585769
he seems pretty capable to continue leading development

>>56585796
>>56585769
uBlock haters on suicide watch

>>56583361
exactly
it still blocks everything but with much less overhead and used less resources

i dont see a single ad with it

>>56585816
It's literally impossible to block most ads with 7 rules

>>56585895
Just try it for yourself.

>>56581298
I love ublock. qbittorrent is just fucking shit.
>Ty seeding more than 4 torrents
>All of them stall
>Pause one of them
>They all resume seeding
>Increase number of connections to a high value in the settings like someone suggested in the forums
>It's the same shit
>Meanwhile rtorrent, deluge and transmission work just fine with 20+ torrents
Guess what I'm using to seed all my sadpanda doujins. Not qbitshit

does uBlock block youtube ads?

that's all i care about.

>>56586212
yes and use ublock origin

>>56586118
>rtorrent, deluge and transmission

Do any of those support streaming though? That's why I use qbittorrent.

>>56586212
It did. I've started seeing them again recently, however, so I'd assume youtube got past it

>>56586212
Youtube has ads?

>>56586228
this

>>56586228
>>56586236
thanks guys, i'm switching over now. guess i'll find out if it's still working...

>>56586236
Do you have your 3rd party filters auto-updating? Because I haven't seen a single ad there.

>>56586307
>>56586260
yeah i just installed it and tested it out, i'm not seeing any youtube ads. seems to work perfectly.

>ITT
ABP shill getting thoroughly BTFO

>>56581581
Go to GitHub right now and show me where in the code it only hides ads.

>>56581581
Fuck off shill

>>56580809
wow adblock is so desperate they have paid shills now? uBlock is the new hotness find a new job pajeet.

whats the proper configuration for UO?

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In other news:

>Greenpeace is now in the oil business.
>The CDC is starting a program to develop airborne HIV.
>The Mexican cartels are funding an anti-drug campaign in the US.
>Richard Stallman has announced a partnership with Microsoft to develop a closed source GNU+Linux distro, officially called "Windows Linux Edition".
>The NRA has called for tougher gun regulations.
>Samsung has sold off all its technology assets to Japanese firms and their core business is now Amish furniture and bomb defusing kits.
>PETA is now euthanizing thousands of stray anima- oh wait, they really are doing this.

>>56581056
That isn't APK.
He isn't NEARLY insane enough.
That isn't to say Hosts file blocking isn't good, but unless I had a fast, simple and flexible way of changing what I allow on the fly, I wouldn't use it over a browser based blocker.

>>56581710
I agree with the concept of only allowing ads that are safe, tolerable, and don't hog bandwidth. But getting a huge industry to change their minds while they still make money will not be fucking easy. And then once they lose enough money, instead of cleaning up their act they will just try to take out ad blockers at any cost.

Aside from that, I use uBlock Origin because it has more features, which makes it way easier to filter what I want from any host. Sorta like fusing the functionality of ABP and NoScript together, but using less Ram to do it.

>>56581444
>so I should switch to ublock origin now?

we all have

>>56581298
qBittorrent is actually a buggy piece of shit, but uBlock Origin is god-like.

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>>56581762
>if you still need a final evidence
How can one lie so blatantly.
https://github.com/gorhill

>>56588683
man i fucking love gorhill

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>>56581444
pic related, it's great

>>56581026
>his hosts file can parse HTTP and HTML to filter out specific requests and hide cosmetic ads
Wow, what OS is this?

>>56581298
>Why do fags love to hate uBlock Origin just like how they love to hate qbittorrent?
Shills, AdBlock Plus and uTorrent shills
Both have reasons to discourage usage of the competition

>>56586118
I have 700 torrents seeding at the same time, at least a dozen of them are uploading all the time
Deluge is literally the same thing as qBittorrent, go shitpost somewhere else
>>56586229
Deluge does and rTorrent do, Transmission is as barebones as it gets with a GUI
Though you could just use peerflix

>>56580609
>ublock picture
>adblock plus sells ads
well shit, I chose the right ad blocker.

>>56580609

>...says Ben Williams, Adblock Plus’ operations and communications director.

What the actual fuck? Is there more than one person behind it? I thought browser extensions were developed by lone hobbyist garage programmers.

>>56591089
>What the actual fuck? Is there more than one person behind it? I thought browser extensions were developed by lone hobbyist garage programmers.
Adblock Plus became an ad company around 2011

>>56591089
Not if they're making money

>>56581919
What? I visited it AND it's sister anime site kissanime.to and my browser works just fine while running ublock origin. It's your computer.

>>56581971
And you think that ABP creator is going to keep giving the user the magic key to remove ALL ads? Nope. That "acceptable ads" button will magically disappear one day and it's true intentions will be known. Want less ads? WATCH OURS YOU IDIOT. Or don't use an adblocker. That is their logic. Too bad they have competition and it's really good. No point in using ABP today. Remember months ago when adblock was put on the spotlight and /g/ said "it sucks use ABP"? Now we are playing deja vu and have to move on.

>>56585805
Duh. uBlock sucks. It is just like when AdBlock sucked but not AdBlock Plus [which now sucks too]. Choose your wording carefully.
UBLOCK IS FAIL
UBLOCK ORIGIN IS WIN

>>56592643
just tried it
videos stop after a few seconds and a message is shown with adblocker enabled

>>56586239
Yes. The most sure fire way to kill them without worrying about whether your adblocker will work or not is install "adblock for youtube" extension. ALWAYS WORKS.

>>56581919
mpv URL

Oh look, the daily ucuck thread

Enjoying your hidden ads and street shitting guys?

ABP has so much more money to spend on online attack campaigns now that they get paid to let ads through

>>56581298
No comment on ublock but qbitorrent has legitimate issues.

Torrents consistently have issues downloading whereas they download fine on something like transmission.

>>56580874
How do you i block at the router level? Can you point me to somewhere where its explained in a reasonable amount of detail?

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what about me

>>56583997
Why is hiding ads a meme? Doesn't it profit both users and website owner?

>>56593045
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+do+you+i+block+ads+at+the+router+level

>>56593097
Thanks

>>56592695
and when that happens, people will fork it back in or people will migrate away.

>>56593045
don't bother, it's pretty much impossible to do it anywhere near as good as a browser extension can do it... but here's how it could be done on the router level:

1. you can set up hosts files (like https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts) on the router but that won't catch everything and doesn't filter actual elements on the page. won't stop youtube ads for example.

2. you can set up an intercepting HTTP proxy using something like (https://hackage.haskell.org/package/adblock2privoxy) that filters elements more or less the same way adblock plus does, but that won't work for SSL which increasingly more websites use.

3. you can set up a MITM SSL proxy that automatically generates and signs certs and whatnot with your own CA and install that certifcate on all your browsers (http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/DynamicSslCert), but even then you'll get increasingly more websites fail entirely because of certificate pinning.

all in all it's a total clusterfuck, takes a long time and produces results far inferior to just installing ublock.

>>56593364
Thank you too, I kinda gathered it's useless [at least for someone with limited understanding of how things work as me].

Is getting a pi-hole worth it? I would mainly use it to make an old CRT TV more usable, could I run pi-hole and say run old games at the same time or is raspberry too weak for that?

>>56583361
>>56585895
https://github.com/rocketshipapps/adblockfast/blob/master/android/app/src/main/res/raw/blocked.txt

>>56595011
>it's an "i put all my logic into my regex so things would appear to be more compact and efficient" episode.
man i hate those episodes.

>>56580630
>>56580674
>>56580809
>>56581026
>>56581581
>>56581729
>>56581762
>>56581784
>>56581868
>>56581873
>>56581971
mein shillingtons

>>56593047
literally ABP, get ublock origin.

Why the fuck are there so many autists in this thread lying about ublock origin? Not to mention retards falling for the lies because they're in 'infographics'.

Autists should be murdered at birth.

uBlock be always blocking what I don't want to block.

The issue I have with ABP is that it's doing this thing where "we only think these specific ads are right" so they're gonna further try to send people in a specific direction through ads that won't be blocked by their software. Basically "you don't want to see that pepsi ad? that's fine, fuck pepsi. Buy some coca cola". It's not a specific solution. I'm going to say this: it's fine that you want to make money out of pure advertising but people shall choose not to see it. If you have a hard time paying your rent, sorry buddy, get a better job, something more physically exhausting and more productive maybe.

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>>56595696
No excuse.

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>>56595614
fuck off kike

>>56595968
It's your filters, not uBlock. Same for ABP.
If a site doesn't work, or you see ads anyway, the issue is not the extension, but your filter lists.

>>56581879
cheers

>>56596285
I was replying to >>56595696
>ublock blocks things i don't want blocked.
That's no excuse, as i provided a pic where it's clearly shown that you can temporarily disable it, if needed.

>>56586001
>>56595011
I fucking knew it
>you know, technically the entirety of microsoft's source code could be written on a single line so it's a short program
It's still remarkably less rules than traditional lists but all that regexp will bring the performance back the fuck down

>>56587725
>and bomb defusing kits
sensible_chuckle.gif

I understand what they are trying to accomplish and it is probably a decent cause, but I don't want any ads at all so it's good that I am a uBlock Origin autist. Thanks gorhill you are the man

>download adblocker
>just makes all the ads black

>>56597623
adblacked

>>56581513
I support this. As long as ads aren't intrusive (or carry harmful malware), they don't bother me. It's also the only way a lot of websites can support themselves.

>>56593089

If an adblocker is hiding an ad instead of bloacking it then it means its hogging more resources like bandwidth and RAM

So if its only hiding and not blocking you will end up with a slower browser with that extension

uBlock origin hogging way less RAM than ABP itself is an indicator that ABP is the actual extension which is only hiding ads

Also evident when ads are not blocked upon launching f the browser with ABP

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>use adblock plus
>every time a pop-up window gets through, adblock automatically blocks elements and closes it in less than a second

>/g/ says ublock origin is better
>every time a pop-up window gets through. I have to manually close it

Fuck you, /g/.

>>56599995
Enjoy your "acceptable ads"

>>56599995
I don't have this issue.
The only time I ever see pop ups, oddly enough, is on porn sites. But those show up for a moment and then vanish.

>>56600450
enjoy your hidden ads

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>>56601161
>>56580976
You were saying?

>>56593047
Development has been cancelled

>>56601730
>uhide wiki
>credible
good goy

>>56598335
>As long as ads aren't intrusive (or carry harmful malware), they don't bother me.
Advertising is inherently intrusive. The whole goal of an ad is to distract me from what I want to be paying attention to, put my attention somewhere else, and then either persuade, cajole, manipulate, or deceive me into spending money that I otherwise would not.

This is why ABP's "acceptable ads" initiative is a contradiction in terms. The only acceptable amount of advertising is none at all.

>It's also the only way a lot of websites can support themselves.
maybe if their business model is based on taking money from people that do the above, they should be out of business. People who have real businesses (e.g., a web store where you sell things) are safe. People who put up content for their own purposes because they find it interesting are safe, since you can host a personal site for pocket change. (e.g., blogs) The only people who have something to fear from widespread blocking of all ads are clickbait sites that produce minimum-effort, lowest-common-denominator content only to the extent they have to to keep ad money rolling in. Nobody should shed a tear for their bankruptcy.

>>56583851
Fucking this

Every time I go to the 4chan home page on my phone it redirects to an ad page and opens shit on the play store

What about adguard. I'm using and it seems to work ok.

How Fucked am I for using it?

>>56586212
Recently only sorta. It tries to play ads by showing a static image for 30 seconds. Probably by next update it will be fixed. That or youtube is doing some serverside shit now.

>>56602071
>clickbait sites that produce minimum-effort, lowest-common-denominator content only to the extent they have to to keep ad money rolling in
You just reminded me of gawker vs hulk hogan, my day got a bit better
>4 years old

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>>56602067
Provide me with a source that proves your statement then.
Hint: you can't

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>>56580874

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>>56602620
https://adblockplus.org/filters#elemhide

Documentation is usually pretty useful.

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>>56581873
So many autistic retards, yet so few sources

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Does-uBlock-block-ads-or-just-hide-them%3F