>Never used Linux Before >***Hur, install Arch is kinda-hard,

pacman -S faggot

Cant Swim?
Hey just jump in the deep end of a pool.

>>56541817
This is a great way to teach someone to swim desu.
Force them to.

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>>56541706

>>56541706

RTFM dudeio.

Just gotta mount your new root, pacstrap core, arch-chroot, and you're good to go. After an hour or so in configuration hell, you might have graphics.

>>56542063
>c:>

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Is there anyone who, honest to god, actually used Arch as their first distro, and stuck with it?

>>56542098
Nobody is dumb enough to try arch as their first Linux distribution.

>>56542141
fucking problem with loonix is there are no standards and everybody is just free for all shooting loads all over the damn place

>>56542183
Its simple though

>Beginner
Ubuntu or Mint
>Intermediate
Debian, Fedora, opensuse
>advanced
Arch, Gentoo, slackware

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>>56542098
>>56542141

yes i am

fell for the meme and im glad i did

>>56542200
ok, break down pkg mans, and libraries, and non free software versus truly oss, then there is free software, and do not get me started with window managers or desktop environments. if you are just a power user and want a replacement to windows what fucking route do you take? that fucking ugly fin really trolled the shite out of everyone

>>56541706
And?
>>56542240
>anyone gives a shit about your user/host name.
It isn't embarrassing is it?

>>56542250

>if you are just a power user
If you cant install any linux distro, you're not a power user.

>>56542580
>my name
>im not a tripfag
i post my desktop a lot and i dont like it when someone recognizes me

>>56542250
Go with Mint, so far it's the best refined distro for desktop use.

>>56541706
install manjaro

>>56542729
So, visit /wg/ and check the archive is what you're saying? Since desktop threads became verboten in the intervening 3 years it's been since I browsed /g/ last.
>>56542250
>Unwilling to learn
>Power user
Kek'd

>>56541782
*Pacman -Rs faggot

>>56542141
What about that fully grown weeb on YouTube?

>>56542874
>fully grown weeb on youtube
You could try being less oblique.

>>56542991
Found it.

https://youtu.be/uNqUEW6dShk

>>56541706
I haven't used Arch in two or three years but isn't there a step-by-step beginner's guide that tells you how to install it? iirc it was even faster than installing ubuntu using its UI installers.

>>56542678
>>56542744
>>56542777
YOU FAGGOTS! I WANT AN ALTERNATIVE TO WINDOWS!

I don't want anything preinstalled. I also don't want any daemons or random shit running ether.

Infact is there even a goddamn distro of linux that let's you customize what software you want to install or do they all cram shitty Desktop Environments + shitty FOSS software bundled and glued together?

Only reason I adore windows 7 was the fact you could easily disable services you do not running, turn off internet explorer, windows media, etc

From my experience Loonix has 2 options.

A. Hard as fuck to install
B. Glued together shiny polished shite.

>>56543075
The wiki holds your hand. Any idiot can install arch.

>>56543095
>Asks for help
>Entitled bitching when he doesn't get exactly what he wants
>Doesn't even know what he's talking about

Eat shit.

>>56543095
>looked at memes about linux instead of ACTUALLY TRYING IT

>>56543095
>asking for help
>calls people faggots because he can't read and follow instructions, or learn something outside his comfort zone.
Wow, as if there was any doubt. Op you are quite a faggot indeed. You realize daemons are a kernel level process that is necessary regardless of os?

>>56543120
>doesn't understand my feel
>complains i am bitching when i have to literally pick a poison
>still has yet to answer my linear question(s)


suck my cock

>>56543123
fuck you


>>56543126
Well in land of Microgay Windows Daemons are called Services so fuck my pink pussy, nigger!

>>56542200
>Debian

Didn't the creator shoot himself and it was taken over by the FBI? I'm using manjaro kde over virtualbox atm and idk what one to try next.

>>56541817
Do or die bud. If you want to do something, start with the closest/most accessible task, regardless of difficulty.

Never take difficulty into mind when deciding if you want to do something because if difficulty was your reason for not trying, you'd have given anyway.

>>56543137
>>56543150
Sorry op, I understand yours has a small parts choking hazard sign, And your rancid pussy looks dangerous.

>>56543137
There's such a thing as debian minimal, where it basically just installs the minimal amount of the OS to run. No GUI, no nothing. You'd probably bitch it's too hard to use.

Sorry that computers aren't all sunshine and rainbows when you want to venture off the beaten path.

>doesn't understand my feel
Get a Mac.

>>56543213
Macos is worst than linux

Debian Minimal, huh?

let me guess, a black screen with white text?

no thanks this is 2016 not the 70s with a vax terminal and a 3000 page on arrays, stacks and functions

>>56543236
This post is truly pathetic

>>56543154
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/07/ian_murdock_autopsy/

>>56543213
sounds better than rasberrian, where they give you a GUI but it's mostly a lie because most of it doesn't actually work

>>56543236
Should probably stick with Windows 10.

It's 2016, it has the most modern GUI!

>>56543363
no thanks i am just going to stick to windows 7

>>56543105
this

I'm a retard and I did

although it stopped detecting my keyboard after a dozen boots, ditched it for ubuntu and never looked back

>>56543095
>A. Hard as fuck to install
Take option A
Install Gentoo
Stop bitching. If you want to run with the pack you'll have to keep up.

>>56541706

I haven't touched Arch in years. Last night I decided to see if they'd added an installer again or not. While doing that I found out that they also removed the beginner's guide, which gave me a good chuckle. It seems that the Arch devs are stil determined to make it as much of a pain in the ass timesink that they can.

>>56542063
>Linux is a shitty chinese knockoff of the Windows command prompt

>>56543150
You can't run Windows without Services either you absolute pancake

>>56543236
So what DO you want?

What distro should you pick if you're sick of your installs going AWOL for seemingly no reason after the fourth reboot?

>>56542200
>I'm a nigger/pajeet/etc who would run Windows but that costs money
Ubuntu derivatives
>I like linux
Debian, Fedora, opensuse
>I have a use case that justifies custom compilation
Gentoo
>I made something new so nobody has run Linux on it yet
Linux from Scratch
>acktchually... mom cancel my meetings xorg is broke
Arch

>>56541859
It's actually not a good way to teach, but what it does is separate the wheat form the chaff. I'm biased because Arch was the first distro I installed, and I'm better for it. You need to recognize that this isn't true for everyone, though.

runs in ram only. never touches anystorage after booting all storage can be removed. 10 meg install size.
tiny core linux is the best.
run it on rasberry pi.
http://tinycorelinux.net/ports.html

if your a linux noob, get the ubuntu desktop book with the install disc.

>>56543406
Probably not an african one, they're known to disappear before the age of 4.

>>56543126
>daemons are a kernel level process
A daemon can run in userland, if someone wouldn't mind adding p56543126 to a CS grad meme that would be great ty.

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>>56541706
>>56541817

>>56543646
ah i love typing in input commands and having to wait... that's the way it should be -- let's not learn from the past and unserstand that most users want to navigate with a mouse/pointing

>>56542098
>reddit
ew gross stop

>>56541706
There is absolutely nothing difficult about Arch. It uses a CLI to give cancerous weebs the illusion that they're on a "hard" distro.

In reality there's nothing whatsoever stopping Arch having a 100% just werks GUI installer. I'm pretty sure there are Arch-based distros that have already done this.

If you really want true pain, try dual booting Gentoo.

>>56544943
Arch and Linux in general isn't for most users.

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bitching op here again!

so i managed to finally install arch cucknix and boy is it shite!

>>56544943
>most users want to navigate with a mouse/pointing
It's inappropriate to recommend Arch to these users in the first place. Technical users prefer scriptable interfaces with more universality over convoluted GUIs.

>>56544983
>In reality there's nothing whatsoever stopping Arch having a 100% just werks GUI installer.

In reality there's nothing whatsoever stopping Windows having a 100% just werks CLI installer.

>being stupid

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installed Arch in VBox.

P comfy so far, so I figure I will make the jump and wipe the drive that has Antenegroes on it.

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I installed Arch as my first distro, fucked a few things up along the way but got it done. Then I installed some other distros to see what they were like but then I decided I liked Arch.

But I couldn't be bothered doing a manual install so I installed Manjaro then tweaked it to how I had it before with i3 as my wm. I mean if you uninstall the Manjaro tools you can pretend you installed it yourself and get that /g/ cred

>>56545010
Hi Jordan.

>>56545046
What's your point?

>>56545070

ohdeargawd ... I haz need that background.

Would you please be so kind as to post it desu?

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>>56545180

>>56543095
Please kill yourself

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>>56545207

Sank yu very squidding muchly.

>>56543095
I'm in the same exact spot regarding loonix as you anon and I'm disappointed in the awful butthurt-to-information ratio in the responses you got.

>>56543433
underrated

>>56542098
I installed Manjaro. It's sort of my first distro in around 10 years or so. I did use redhat and some others back in the day when I actually had a need/reason to. It's comfy.

>>56542098
> Used arch as first distro and stuck with it?
I used antergos first, then moved to arch after about
2 months

>>56543095
>easily disable services you do not running
have you tried googling this? Because it's entirely possible and much easier than in windows on linux

>>56543236
> Wants Linux
> Doesn't want a terminal
Commit suicide fgt

>>56541706
>was just like you, never used Linux before, someday got intrigued
>download iso, burn it
>root$: and blackness
>RTFM
> installed
>holy shit its actually good

>>56543236
>the 70s with a vax terminal and a 3000 page on arrays, stacks and functions
God I'm drooling.

>>56542200
What is opensuse? Why do people never mention it?

>>56541706
Arch is shit for beginners but these stupids /g/ faggots don't stop praising it. Install Linux Mint and enjoy a Windows 7 alternative.

>>56546392
Its a distro that targets enterprise.
Most of /g/ is neet

>>56545087
Architect. You're welcome

>>56544943
What the fuck are you doing on this board?

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>>56543236
>doesn't want a pre-installed DE
>bitches about having to use a command line

>hey, I want to get into cycling
>heard driving 200 is kinda hard, but it's kinda easy
>k
>buy a bike, lube it up
>decide I'm gonna drive 200 miles
>I feel tired by the 40th kilometer
>nope
>why do you guys even endorse cycling

Someone remind me why we even want Joe Averageconsumer to run linux? Isn't that the biggest reason why technology is constantly getting dumbed down and going to shit?

>>56542098

I've used a fair bit of linux before, but never stuck with any distro for more than a day or two, then I tried Arch got everything set up just how I wanted and was happy, stuck with it ever since. It's just time consuming to do all the post installation stuff.

>>56543095
>Infact is there even a goddamn distro of linux that let's you customize what software you want to install or do they all cram shitty Desktop Environments + shitty FOSS software bundled and glued together?

You now understand why people use Arch.

>>56541817
If they're too stupid to work it out, just let natural selection do it's work.

>>56543095
It's called Arch, you dick. Just follow the install guide on the wiki. I don't understand how so many people lack the basic common sense to be able to follow some pre-written instructions. I didn't know jack shit about linux when I installed Arch and it was still 10 times easier than you faggots say it is.

>>56546843
>You now understand why people use Arch.
You can achieve exactly the same with Debian or Ubuntu.

>>56542200
Please stop this terrible meme.

The beginner and intermediate distros that you listed can be and are used by "advanced" Linux users all the time.

Why do so many freetards commit suicide?

>>56547215
Too much time on your hands: Gentoo
Boring office stuff like spread sheets: Red Hat, CentOS
Gaming and noobs general: Ubuntu
Entry-level coding: Debian
Reale serious coding, top-end server stuff and hacking: Arch

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>>56546843
>You now understand why people use Arch.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-7-x86_64-Minimal-1511.iso

:^)

>>56547269
Bootstrapped Ubuntu is also smaller than bootstrapped Arch.

there's a guide, it's not like anyone knows what to do without one unless they've done the install dozens of times

also architect is a pretty good arch installer if you don't wanna do the normal install

>>56541859
I actually did this with Linux. Went from Ubuntu to Arch and I am loving it. Took me a weekend to set up both my machines and get basic knowledge and routine, but I probably can't go back.

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>>56543442
>what it does is separate the wheat form the chaff
>I'm better for it
>You need to recognize that this isn't true for everyone, though

>>56545070
What player is that?

Ubuntu has a soft spot in my heart but Arch is pretty sweet.
There's a couple of third party installs for Arch too. The barrier of entry is minimal, and if you plan to tinker with your OS anyway, you're bound to meet with the command line eventually.

>>56542200
>>56547215
It should be more like Ubuntu/Mint are for all users, and Arch/Gentoo for advanced users only

>>56542087
Someone should just remake it with #_ instead of C:\> .

>>56544957
But it's someone on reddit telling a story of how he triforced his home directory contents.

>>56546488
Arch Anywhere. You're welcome.

>>56547269
Debian and Ubuntu do """"""Things""""""" to their distros that are not my cup of tea. These """""Things"""""" are found in the netinst's too. Arch is a sensible compromise when given the choice between babby's first and gentoo autism.Besides, apt is absolute trash.

>>56542240
Love that ui, how'd you do it?

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>>56543095
EFFECTIVE EVANGELISM

>>56547218
because you touch yourself at night

>>56548216
pretty sure is baka mplayer
http://bakamplayer.u8sand.net/

>>56549887
Who knew my dick was that powerful?

>>56549994
your mom

>>56543095
>I don't want anything preinstalled. I also don't want any daemons or random shit running ether.
>Only reason I adore windows 7 was the fact you could easily disable services you do not running, turn off internet explorer, windows media, etc
You can do the same thing with Linux you flying faggot, you can even uninstall anything that came with the distro unlike Windows. Or you could just use Gentoo, Arch, Debian, whatever instead of bitching about having to learn something new
(you)

>>56543236
>I don't want a bunch of preinstalled shit, but I don't want the terminal either
Mind as well just stop using the computer then

>>56549674
>apt
>trash
You don't say.

>>56550144
You mean YOUR mom probably.

>>56541706
Pretty sure somebody makes a ready to go vm image of Arch you can just download from their website. I seen it like a year ago, but already decided dual boot is better.
>Though I'm still not sure why I'm keeping windows around.

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>>56542141
I did an honestly Arch isn't hard however Arch being hard to install is a meme. With that being said >>56542098 is right at least in my case that I won't be sticking with it. They are all the same more or less anyway so I'll stick to something more stable for my desktop distro. Honestly kids these days just need to learn to swim.

>>56545070
Sysadmin is that you?

not op but semi-related how can i uninstall the software i do not want that came with the latest linux mint os? there are two software managers the native software manager and the synaptic manager -- yes? my question is with the native software manager when i click 'show installed software' only it still shows all software available. How do I go about uninstall software i do not want? is there way to do it with the terminal? ie:

 sudo apt uninstall xyz 

>>56545046
>Windows
>just werks
top milkdude

>>56541706
***OP is a faggot***

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>Download debian
>Want to install ps3 media player
>Have to do a trillion apt-gets and whatnot
>Have to edit my sources list
>sudo apt-get update
>Error, do you have add-apt-transport-https installed?
>sudo apt-get install add-apt-transport-https
>E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/http could not be found.
>Ask /g/, anon tells me to use package manage
>Use package manager
>Update with the necessary repository checked
>E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/http could not be found.
>Need to edit my sources list
>Told myself "nope, fuck it, this is the end"

Call me retarded, I just wanted to eat pizza, watch cartoons and code like a good NEET should, and speaking of code, I couldn't even figure out how to install codeblocks even with synaptic package manager

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>>56541706
>>Never used Linux Before
>>***Hur, install Arch

You got some bad advice there, OP.

Try something like Linux Mint MATE.

>>56543095
> I don't want anything preinstalled.

Then you're really limiting yourself significantly.

And, also, you're shutting yourself off completely from Windows 10, which has a ton of privacy-invading pre-installed stuff that's very difficult to disable.

>>56543095
You LITERALLY tried installing Arch, and gave up. That's EXACTLY what you're asking for; something that'll allow you to customize everything. It's obvious you have no clue what you're doing, so just install Ubuntu or something as a starting point and customize it from there. You can easily turn off services in any distro.

>>56552842
alright actually what the fuck

it should literally just be sudo apt-get install codeblocks
for a media player, VLC and MPV are good.

>>56543646
Based

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>>56541706
>somehow linux fault
>somehow arch fault
>somehow /g/ fault

                                                                                                                                 dude you succesfully installed, I'm proud, that was the hard part

>>56547224
Holy shit, how did you manage to get all of these correct?

>>56544943
>i love typing in input commands and having to wait
>>>/justclickokisCPUask/

>>56543095
>was the fact you could easily disable services you do not running, turn off internet explorer, windows media, etc
None of these run on the background, they are just installed programs.

>>56543126
>daemons are a kernel level process
No

>that is necessary regardless of os?
Stop posting

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>>56543388
>mfw there's literally an INSTALL.txt un thé folder you start in

>>56543433
>>I have a use case that justifies custom compilation
Most distros provide custom packages.

>>56553228
*source pkgs

>>56547224
You're actually right, BlackArch is fucking nice.

>>56546843
>I dont know what a minimal install is

>>56543095
> [distribution of choice] minimal ISO

Also try xubuntu
>sane defaults
>minimum amount of useless shit (still some)
>someone else has also had the problem you're having when you have it

>>56541706
> >***nope.exe
Winfag.

>>56543095
>what is Debian

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>>56549233
Done, good sir

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>>56545029
>convoluted GUIs

thanks for nothing, /g/

all i wanted was a simple linux distribution...

i remember years back i downloaded Fedora 14-16? torrented the full 4 gig x86_64 iso, ran the gui-setup, gave me a fuck load of options in simple English -- with descriptions, also allowed me to choose specifically what software i wanted; what software i did not want installed, gave me the official repos and options for additional repos, allowed to specify which hardware specs i wanted -- as well as drivers, and finally gave me a fuck ton of options for window mans/DE!

fuck you all!

>>56552271
You'd think it's

uninstall

, but it's actually

sudo apt remove xyz

>>56554284
thanks man does this remove all the dependencies, or libraries as well? i am actually more comfituble with gui i was hoping for a revo uninstaller like program for linux

>>56554432
It removes the program executables and the dependencies that aren't used by any other programs.

As far as cleaners, I use fslint and bleachbit (

sudo apt install fslint bleachbit

), though those are more like CCleaner than Revo. The package manager/Synaptic does a good job of uninstalling what you tell it to.

Arch and Gentoo are for if you already know what you are doing and how to do it. At that point, it isn't much effort at all.

You don't use these distros to learn, you use them if you have learned.

>>56543646
Is there something like this for gentoo?

>>56541706
I did. Best meme I've fallen for.

>>56554541
You can also use Ubuntu or Debian if you already know what you're doing and how to do it.

>>56554621
nope, i know what im doing and holy shit ubuntu are fucking dumb with their updates every fucking week

plus, for some reason my isp blocks some ubuntu security repos.

never been happier then when i installed fedora and saw it used gnome by default. literally love at first sight my dudes

fight me

>>56554432
It does not remove dependencies, but apt is still tracking them.

You can use

sudo apt-get autoremove

to remove dependency packages your system no longer needs.

You can also use purge instead of remove when uninstalling to also remove all config files left behind by the package. This also works after uninstalling the package to clean up later.

>>56554432
use synaptic
type name of program in
right click remove completely
or terminal via what anon posted

oh boy i cant wait till you wanna use a program but your dependencies are newer then the program requires

>>56554521
>>56554667
>>56554761
i wish your were my friends in real life

>>56542098
>Whereas I made a thread on 4chan asking for help and all they could o is call me homophobic names.

Chuckled heartily there.

>>56541706
can't tell if troll or jason

>>56542077
it is quite difficult if you've never used linux before, took me most of a day when I decided to install it so that my friend would stop teasing me for not using linux
anyway the teasing stopped so it was worth it even if it took a while, you just have to have patience and read the manual OP

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>>56542098
It was my first distro, but I went back to Windows because I couldn't decide on a DE.

>>56557789
just install all of them

>>56557789
>>56557848
and use a graphical login
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/sn-switching-to-gui-login.html