/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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>>56469991
Idk, sysvinit (or whatever) for Devuan seems to work fine for me.

>>56470009
DejaVu Sans Mono everywhere except Windows where I use Consolas.

>>56476414
Wildebeests are badass looking

>>56476846
What's your display manager? It's all dependent on that.

>>56476389
>>56476973
>>56477281
bumping for visibility: Why do I have connections to google http servers?

>>56477222
>DejaVu Sans Mono

my nigga

Siag or SoftMaker office?

In particular I want to be able to install/remove certain parts of the suite.

Libreoffice came pre-installed on my distro and it was garbage.

I still need a guide to making a persistent Arch or Buntu USB for my MacBookpro. Idk how it would do with a VM on it and idk about a dual boot. Pls ideas guys?

>>56477968
You just partition and format the flash drive and install the system onto it then you simply boot off FD rather than HDD, I have FreeBSD setup like that and it's working just fine but I had to manually adjust something post-installation, don't remember what though.

>>56477635
Problem solved. Plex is the culprit. After stopping the service, the connections disappeared and reappeared upon restarting the service.

Why would Plex connect with google? There's already a connection that goes to plex.tv

>>56478145
Three possibilities:
1) It needs some Google service to make some feature work.
2) They have a deal with Google and provide them with some data.
3) They use Analytics for something.

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Okay I have managed to fuck up my terminal.

While screwing around with the profile settings I have found a tab which was about running commands. So I thought that this is the place where I can set a command thati want to run on starting the terminal. Therefore, I have putted

 fortune | cowsay

into its textbox.

Now the terminal is fucked and I cannot open it. I tried to reset it by deleting the /.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal folder but is does not exists only the .gconf folder.

What shall I do?

what switches do you usually use with emerge?
I want to put up a macro because I always forget the capitalisation in -audn and some additional input on the proper way to emerge seems nice.

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how do i fix this

i like arial but it makes it all messed up

>>56479083
is arial even a monospace font?
don't use non-monospace fonts in your terminal.

>>56478524
for a complete upgrade i use
--ask --verbose --update --deep --newuse --with-bdeps y @world

I'm home sick from work and have a lot of free time so I decided to wipe my VPS and re-install with a Ubuntu LTS 14 template. How do I achieve the following:
>how do I lock it down to keep the Chinese out of it and other fuckers that would want to root it
>how do I install a vpn server on it. the last time I enabled TUN/TAP I still couldn't get VPN to work even following the simplest guide step by step
>I want git for personal use on it, should I go vanilla git or install gitlab

>>56479300
this will help you for security:
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html#contents
be sure to use hardening like bastille and set up a good firewall, use fail2ban for SSH and use SSH keys, etc etc

>>56477502

His display manager has no business starting stuff once his session starts.
His window manager or session manager if the desktop environment comes with one is responsible for that.

>>56479457
Thank you. Will look it up.

>>56479083

Use Liberation Sans. It's metrically compatible with Arial and free. It also has a monospaced version for terminals.

Does the emerald decorator work with other window managers besides compiz? Web search returns me nothing.

what is the openRC equivalent to systemd's systemctl start xdm?
service xdm start doesn't work

>>56480187
/etc/init.d/xdm start or rc-service xdm start

>>56480560
>rc-service: `xdm´ does not exist

>/etc/init.d/xdm: no such file or directory

I installed xdm, do I need to turn it into a service first? xdm is located in /usr/bin/xdm on my system.

>>56480687
did you not try doing /usr/bin/xdm start ?

>>56480703
>xdm error (pid blah): extra arguments on command line: start
it definetly needs to be launched as a service, as just executing xdm does nothing at all.

RHEL/CentOS/Fedora vs Debian/*buntus

FIGHT
I
G
H
T

>>56480850
debian. does everything you want and could ever want

>>56480850
Why are you trying to make this a thing?

>>56478464
The correct place for such commands is your ~/.bashrc.

To reset your gnome-terminal run in xterm:
gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/gnome-terminal

>>56480687
#rc-update add xdm default

>>56480947
also read this:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Display_manager#OpenRC

>>56480947
>rc-update: service `xdm´ does not exist
I emerged xdm and the executable is there
this confuses me.
will read >>56480980 though and see where it takes me.

>>56481075
turns out I'm missing the xserver and some other stuff too. I was expecting those to be covered by the -D part of 'emerge -auDN xdm'.

>>56480850
RHEL/CentOS = Best Server
Fedora = Best Desktop
Ubuntu = Best Gaymen
Debian = Social Justice

>>56481200
Haha, that'll do it.

is there a better GNU/Linux distro than gentoo?

>>56481230
Funtoo = best everything.

>>56481241
no

>>56481241
No, funtoo is more convenient to install but after that is mostly the same distro.

How do I change my dns server? networkmanager seems to overwrite resolv.conf

>>56480882
I want them to acknowledge white folks have done nothing wrong, males are alright and an important part of society and women don't need special treatment

>>56480922
I just want to hear as many opinions as possible

>>56481230
Interesting

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>>56481488

>>56480850
Debian is fully SJW, more than firefox

Which mail server do you use and do you use a web frontend? And how do you get google to not mark your shit as spam?

>>56481577
Perfect, thanks!

>>56481230
>RHEL
$ in a class of it's own. Nobody uses this unless they need the support.
>CentOS and Debian Stable
Good servers, not desktop material unless you like your packages to be years out of date.
>Ubuntu and Debian Testing
Good Desktops, relatively up to date, relatively stable, best for normies.
>Fedora and Debian Sid
More up to date and less stable desktop option, better for devs than normies.

Average users should stick to Ubuntu.

Redpill me on openSuse

>>56481673
GOD tier package manager
>Shit wiki
>Shit non-free driver support

>>56481230
Only retards who need support use RHEL.
Nobody is using Fedora.

>>56481241
Well you can try LFS if you want
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

>>56481715
don't trigger fedorabro

>>56481715
Cool blog. Should I subscribe?

Let's be honest. We pic the distro by the logo.
If the logo is shit, we woun't install it.

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>>56481764
Speaking of

>>56481742
I switched to gentoo, it's okay.

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>>56481764
Install Trisquel

>>56481230
Best Desktop = Easily Ubuntu, not even a close contest. Debian Testing maybe if you want to be edgy and contrarian. Fedora is a joke.

>>56481715
>Nobody is using Fedora.
Literally millions of US government employees are using RHEL and Fedora.

>>56481808
>ubuntu
>good

go away marketing

>>56481808
>Fedora is a joke.
If it's a joke, I would hate to see what Ubuntu is. Fedora has been more stable than Ubuntu since at least 12.04 LTS release. 14.04 was a crap shoot. 16.04 is complete balls. Fedora 24 OTOH has been silky smooth.

>>56481863
Fedora can't even boot on my 8 year old desktop because my graphics card is only 3 years old. It's complete shit. Even Debian Stable, of all things, can run just fine. How the hell do you call 24 "smooth," without laughing?

>>56481894
Debian stable cannot boot on new hardware - that's by definition.

Hold packages for 4 years and call it >stable
If you are looking for jokes here's one

>>56481808
Ubuntu is shit since they decided to use non-free programs and the covered smegma kernel that is linux torvalds creation.

Want a software that respects you ?
Follow this >>56481795 nigger and install trisquel at least it use a cleaned version of the linux kernel

https://trisquel.info/

Linux libre kernel
https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/
https://jxself.org/linux-libre/

>>56481934
Post your desktop screenshot with $inxi -Fz

>>56481934
>Librefags are here
Suck a commie cock, nobody cares. Wake me up when libre hardware is affordable to the masses and not ten years old.

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>>56481945
>$inxi -Fz
>implying that I'll execute anything from this website

>>56481958
>Suck a commie cock
Since when wanting freedom I a synonym to communism ?
Get a fucking thesaurus and got find the definition of communism faggot

>>56482042
>Being this much of a retard

>>56482042
That's not your screenshot until you post inxi -F

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>>56481958
>Isn't it ironic that the proprietary software developers call us communists? We are the ones who have provided for a free market, where they allow only monopoly. … if the users chooses this proprietary software package, he then falls into this monopoly for support … the only way to escape from monopoly is to escape from proprietary software, and that is what the free software movement is all about. We want you to escape and our work is to help you escape. We hope you will escape to the free world.

>>56482068
>unable to answer question about hardware
Typical librebitch. You might not be a commie, but you're completely useless until you can provide people with libre hardware that's affordable and useful. Ten year old thinkpads for 500 pounds aren't going to work mate.

>>56482090
>thinking that it's my real resolution
>thinking that it's my real time

>>56481934
How do you deal with the lack of microcode? Just live with the glitchiness and data corruption?

>>56482198
>microcode
Do you even know what you are talking about

>>56481598
Then every distro is SJW.

The people who make pages/posts/issues about respecting women and other SJW shit are simply a vocal minority which exists in every community that gets large enough.

>>56481958
Having complete freedom on your computer isn't about being affordable or efficient, it's about having freedom, privacy, and security. Sorry that it's too inconvenient for you, I hope you enjoy using software which has power over you instead of the other way around.

>>56482150
EOMA68
100$ for a complete free/libre ARM based hardware pc

>>56482113
No I won't post this kind of info (also thanks for this too anon) I didn't know it.

>>56482283
typo: thanks for this tools anon

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>>56482257
>Then every distro is SJW.
Give me 1 (ONE) distro more SJW than this:

>>56482229
The firmware for CPUs and GPUs that is including in the linux-firmware package (or similar) that updates the microcode to allow it to operate properly. They're proprietary firmware for cpus. Often labelled as intel-ucode or radeon-ucode or nvidia-ucode.

>>56482319
second typo: tool

>>56482328
If I remember they did this because the pressure and shitstorm that was raining on them was unbearable so they did it but don't give a fuck

>>56482338
Already Discussed here (read the whole thread)
https://trisquel.info/fr/forum/intel-processor-microcode-security-update-trisquel

>>56482385
>they did this
Still doing it

Debian is a magnet to SJWs

>>56482448
Maybe because it's the biggest community

on the other hand
https://trisquel.info/fr/forum/what-makes-good-community

>>56482483
Beg to differ, Ubuntu has a larger community with less SJW

>>56481673
pls respond

>>56482510
See >>56481710
retard

>>56481673
it has non free software in it
The end
install trisquel

>>56482283
>vapoware
Yeah sorry champ, that's not shipping any time soon.

>>56482257
>Having complete freedom on your computer isn't about being affordable or efficient, it's about having freedom, privacy, and security.
The rich already enjoy freedom from the law because they make and enforce the law. Unless you're offering everyman the chance to use libre hardware and software you're just a wishful thinking asshole shitting on average people without giving them a way out.

Go fuck yourself you holier than thou cunt.

Which rules should I add to iptables to ensure when my VPN disconnects all traffic gets blocked/null routed? I need to let the VPN through but is that safe? It doesn't leak other data?

What distro has the most driver compatibility?

>>56482536
>vapoware
this hardware is supported by the FSF and is in the list for RYF
The FSF wouldn't have announce its support to the project if it wasn't happening

>>56482338
Another nice thing about Debian: Comes deblobbed just like Linux-libre, but you can load whatever microcode or module you want.

>>56482608
Depends on the kernel.

>>56482627
It actually use the script of the libre kernel but it still does not say to users the risk of using non free software

>>56482627
meanwhile on arch: ALL modules enabled by default

>>56482608
Ubuntu/Fedora/Arch/Mint/Manjaro/Antergos - all will run okay.

At the end of the day, it comes down to how much package can you run.

Ubuntu has PPAs
Arch has the AUR
Fedora has RPMfusion

These three make the holy trinity I suppose

>>56482654
meanwhile on arch: all useless modules are enabled by default

>>56482654
Well that's the point of Arch; "bloat me up to keep it simple". Just look how they manage packages.

>>56482654
You can install linux-libre from the AUR tho (not like anyone actually would).

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>tfw when no voidwomen
:^)

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>>56482654

>>56482654
Kept it simple. If autism is your super power you can set modules during installation.

>>56482745
Too vegan, I'm sure some nu-male community will create a community for women

>>56482745
Is there a better version of that pape? The rings are triggering my autism.

>>56482608
Ubuntu

>>56482745
>void
vegan_pasta.txt
no_sosig_im_a_vegan.jpg

>>56482654
>tfw my custom kernel didn't boot properly so I just enabled everything as modules and now it works
feels lazy

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>>56482745
Why is /g/ filled with the new kind of hipsters?
>Wake up in the morning
>Go back to the terminal you left open last night for increased uptime and powerlevel

>It's Void Linux with no Xorg

>Runit instead of Systemd
>LibreSSL instead of OpenSSL
>Clang instead of GCC
>Musl instead of glibc or
>Uclibc instead of libc
>Busybox instead of coreutils
>ZSH instead of bash
>rEFIt instead of grub
>Patrician ed instead of nano
>Screeny instead of screenfetch
>Wicd instead of Network Manager
>Organic water instead of tap water


>Compile herbslutwm and install vivaldi
>Go to 4chan, browse /soc/

>Manages to chat with a "fem"anon
>"What do you do in leisure?"
>My choices of entertainment are somewhat recherché
>"Tell me more"
>Euphoric.gif
>Eat no proteins, only dead, organic vegetables
>I prefer Ballad to what you call "mainstream songs"
>I don't like smokers, I prefer vaping, guilty charged
>I own a Penny-farthing vélocipède for transportation
>femanon freaks out and stops responding

>>>/g/
>Fuck systemd botnet
>Fuck bash, noob
>Fuck GNU
>lol are you still using gcc in $currentyear?
>I personally use BSD for my primary operating system
>Muh Unix
>Muh philosophy


ISHYGDDT

>>56482745
Void is actually pretty nice.
>binary? use the package manager
>compile? use the package manager
>init? use whatever you want (runit by default)
>come free as in freedom by default
>can install nonfree stuffs

>>56482618
>The FSF wouldn't have announce its support to the project if it wasn't happening
lol wut? They've endorsed vapoware dozens of times before.

>>56482536
>The rich already enjoy freedom from the law because they make and enforce the law.
Unrelated to how non-free software has power over you.

>Unless you're offering everyman the chance to use libre hardware and software you're just a wishful thinking asshole shitting on average people without giving them a way out.
I'm not shitting on average people, and I hope that libre hardware becomes more accessible over time, just like GNU/Linux has. I'm not wishful thinking, I'm just saying that *ease of access* and *cheap price* aren't the primary reasons to get libre hardware. The primary reason is obviously freedom, privacy, and security on your machine.

>>56482874
Fist off:
tl;dr
Second:
stop spamming this shit over and over
Third:
>there's a small unpopular project
>users must be hipsters
kys

>>56482932
>>there's a small unpopular project
>>users aren't hipsters
Fuck yourself, hippie

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>>56482809
sorry the only other one i have is this, it can be made into a wp

>>56482932
>tl;dr
Void = Distro for laughable contrarians

>>56482946
Friendly thread, shithead.

>>56482895
Proof or gtfo

Question for (the) voild luddite(s)

Why use an obscure distrolet? Does it even have ports?

>>56483082
I like the logo.

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>>56483110
>pokemon logo

>>56483082
Just use funtoo.

If I set my background with "feh --bg-fill path" in dwm or xmonad, I have this issue where it doesn't quite work as a background, but simply as another running program. So, if I open a program, my background will tile in half as well! Also, if I right click, the feh menu opens. I didn't used to have this problem on my old i386 install. Does anyone know what is wrong?

>>56483320
Solved problem. It only works properly with --bg-scale. I didn't want to scale since my wallpaper was the proper resolution.

Just deleted windows and installed manjaro, it's awesome.
But can I install flux on it? I am used to it

>>56482925
>I'm not shitting on average people, and I hope that libre hardware becomes more accessible over time, just like GNU/Linux has. I'm not wishful thinking, I'm just saying that *ease of access* and *cheap price* aren't the primary reasons to get libre hardware. The primary reason is obviously freedom, privacy, and security on your machine.

This. Also, X60 thinkpads are rediculously easy to libreboot, no tools required, and cost next to nothing. Just buy a $10 atheros wifi chip and you are fully functional. Yeah the hardware is old, but so what? Basic computing can be done on anything these days.

Then you have ebay and a few others places that strait up sell libreboot hardware if you can't do it yourself for some reason. $200-800 depending on the model and the specs. Not cheap, but not out-of-sight expensive either.

And before someone says "lol you can't do shit on libre hardware with a libre distro," let me tell you that's completely wrong. I run Parabola (libre arch) and do all my personal and professional computing on my T400 as a software entrepreneur. The next generation of great ideas is coming on libre.

>>56483476
Redshift does the same thing

>>56483476
What the hell is flux?

I don't even use arch, but the answer to that question is pacman -Ss flux, is it not there? Too bad. Is it there? pacman -S it!

If I already use Linux, and I sort of know how Linux works, is it worthwhile doing LFS to get a more rigorous understanding of the system?

>>56483679
Probably not, but do it anyway if you want. You might be better served by using gentoo or funtoo as your primary operating system on your main PC.

>>56483626
>What the hell is flux?
nonfree pig disgusting malware

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I am trying to install Mint on my PC along side my current W10. The problem is that Mint cant see the partition that i made for it (30GB). At first i made it an unalocated space(no luck there), then tried making it into ntfs(still no luck),fat32(still nothing), even tried Ext4, I wont see anything other than the flash im using. Formating my whole drive is a no no, cuz i need windows for other shit and files ofc, and i cant boot from CD cuz its giving me some errors that i couldn't fix ( its probably that bug on Gigabyte motherboards). Read 2 pages of google and still no success. Help me ^^

>get drunk
>show my powerlevel to family by mistake
>"okkkayy i see..."
normies understand not even simple quips about linux

also I'm drunk and I will regret posting this as well.

>>56484325
It should be ext4 at least. You can't use ntfs or fat 32 for a linux filesystem. This is definitley user error, read up on linux and filesystems and try again.

>>56483626
its a program meant for people too retarded to change the settings manually on their monitor.

it tints your screen.

>>56484364
>ntfs/fat
You're so wrong here kek

vfat bruh
ntfs has been readable since like xp days
write has been default for atleast 10 years

>>56484364
Also, I'll even hand hold you enough to tell you how to do it. Run a livecd of linux of your choice and open a root terminal. cfdisk, remove linux mint partition and create a new one from the free space. Make it the default option which is linux 83. then type mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda(the letter of your partition). Then install linux on it, preferably not linux mint because it sucks. That should do it.

>>56484398
But why the FUCK would you make that a linux partition? It might be supported for reading and writing but it's not going to work properly.

>>56484364

But he should still be able to see the partition and reformat it from within the installer

>>56484444
[citation needed]

I'm using lubuntu, is there any way to get rid of the top title bar above the tabs on firefox? or merge them like on windows, so it doesn't take up so much fucking vertical space?

>>56484338
no one cares either way

>>56484428
I cant see any partitions other than usb from cfdisk

>>56484338
What did you show them?

>>56484564
Wow, well, that sucks. Sorry to be you.

>>56484398
Not supporting POSIX file permissions and symlinks are just the tip of the iceberg. Please kill yourself.

>>56485027
Yet it is doable

So its installing gentoo on to a toaster

>>56483476
is manjaro a meme? from what i've read in their wiki, it looks pretty good. tempted to try it out

Looking to install linux on a netbook, what is a good, low resource tiling WM?

>>56485176
its shit
they cant be trusted with security after 3 instances of total lack of security and administration

Just install arch
there is no reason to not just use the orginal

I made this for you.
for i in 92m 93mY 57mo 21mu 27m 33ma 39mr 45me 51m 50ma 49m 48mh 47mu 46mg 82me 118m 154mf 190ma 226mg 220mg 214mo 208mt 202m\! 196m; do printf '\033[5;7;38;5;%s \033[m' $i; sleep .1; done; printf \\n

>>56485176
If you want a retard proof Arch setup I think you're better off with Antergos, I've heard Manjaro has security problems

>>56485381
But it doesn't.

>>56485352
>they cant be trusted
Why? Show me the memes.

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>>56485459
1

>>56485459
they keep forgetting to update their ssl certs

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>>56485459
2
>>56485495
And how can you trust them with any higher security means, if they cannot handle such a menial trask?

>>56485492
>>56485495
The holder was the problem, Manjaro was in time. https://manjaro.github.io/expired_SSL_certificate_update/
next pls

>>56485522
>>>56485495
>And how can you trust them with any higher security means, if they cannot handle such a menial trask?

>>56485531
>The holder was the problem, Manjaro was in time. https://manjaro.github.io/expired_SSL_certificate_update/

>>56485492
>>56485495
As an Arch user, you do realise this doesn't effect the distro, do you?

>>56485547
>>>56485522
>>>>56485495
>>And how can you trust them with any higher security means, if they cannot handle such a menial trask?

>>56485522
>next pls
they simply hold back packages in order to sell their distro as more stable than arch

>>56485551
It doesn't matter, I get shit on all of the time and get people claiming that I'm too dumb to install arch when I really just liked the look of the i3 spin of manjaro.

>>56485588
Remember X-org 1.17?

>>56485434


The Arch stable repos are synced into Manjaro Unstable on a roughly daily basis. They sit there for 1-2 weeks before being declared stable and moving to Manjaro Testing. Then their test squad declares that stable enough to move to Manjaro Stable, about 3-4 weeks after the packages arrive in Arch Linux.

And this is the issue. There is four weeks until Manjaro users get package updates. That is still a lot quicker than a non-rolling release distribution I hear you say, but it ignores one of the fundamentals of a rolling release distribution. Security fixes come with a new software release. On a fixed-point release distribution, security fixes are backported into your out-of-date software versions to maintain stability. On a rolling release distribution, you just release the newer version of the software that comes with most security fixes (some backporting from the upstream VCS is required if a release is not made).

That means, Manjaro users are vulnerable to security bugs for around a month after Arch users are safe, unless of course the Manjaro Core Team monitors every package and pushes those with security fixes. How many packages in a distribution? Arch Linux has >6000 in its binary repositories. I suppose it is not impossible to monitor that many packages, unless of course your Core Team consists of three people. And given those three people provide five variants of their installation ISO (net install, XFCE, KDE, Cinnamon, MATE – with OpenBox and E17 on the way…) and provide a series of kernel packages and systemd… Things are looking bleak.

And so, Manjaro users are stuck with packages having security issues for a while. I’d assume the big ones get through quicker. Although their firefox package has not been updated to version 18 yet, which fixes 21 security issues – 12 of which are marked critical. In fact, firefox version 18 has not even made their Unstable repo as I am writing this. […]

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>>56482042
Moron.

>>56485588
Achtually Manjaro works like a Debian version of Arch with the same braches: stable, testing and unstable. You don't want to say that Debian "holds back packages to be stable", right?

>>56485610
from antergos forums

If I want raid and lvm do I make an array with md and use lvm on top of it? Is there a better way to do it?

>>56485610
You aren't up to date, fellow troll.
Source of your pasta is here: http://allanmcrae.com/2013/01/manjaro-linux-ignoring-security-for-stability/
What you didn't post is here:

>I’ll give credit where it is due. I had previously criticized Manjaro for holding back all package updates as this ignored security issues. But it appears that Manjaro has a new security policy, which means that packages that are rated as “Critical” or “High” in the Arch Security Advisories get pushed through their “quality assurance” process more quickly.

http://allanmcrae.com/2015/02/improvements-on-manjaro-security-updates/

>>56485602
>pacman -S i3
>wget path://to.theme.
>tar xf theme.tar.xz
>mv theme/ .themes
>change theme in i3

You were saying?

>>56485695
>pacman
found your problem

>>56485705
https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Pacman_Overview

>>56481764
That is why I run Arch.

>>56485602
Try the bspwm spin, it's even better (on-the-fly adjustable gaps, binary tree layout).

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>>56485734
Sorry for destroying your dreams.

We need a better topic. We can't circleflame about distros for the next 5 years guys.

>>56485757
you absolute fucking bastard

>>56485778
choose a topic:

package manager vs package manager
shell vs shell
gnu vs linux
de vs de
wm vs wm
head vs table

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>>56485734
https://archwomen.org/wiki/

>>56485868
>Every 3 weeks we halt all repo's upstream updates. This is to allow our staff to properly menstruate without have the hassle of managing code and servers.

>>56482338
Been reading about this topic for some hours now, the fun thing here is: systems that simply drop microcode still run microcode in the cpu, so it wouldn't change anything if they wouldn't drop them. On the other hand, while a microcode update may close one security vunerablility, it also opens another one: unknown code, so it wouldn't change anything either if they just drop them.

My brain hurts.

hey guys im new here. im building my first PC since i built one back in 2008. i dont feel like buying or pirating windows so i figured id give linux a shot

i googled around a little bit and it looks like the most new comer friendly distros are ubuntu and linux mint. but i figured i might as well ask some people who actually use linux

which distro should someone whos new to linux get?

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>>56486046
Publishers often refer to copying they don't approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances. (They are still pressuring to make these prohibitions more complete.)

If you don't believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “unauthorized copying” (or “prohibited copying” for the situation where it is illegal) are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as “sharing information with your neighbor.”

>>56486046
Avoid Mint, get Ubuntu.

>>56485736
I'll try it one of these days, but I am extremely comfortable with i3 right now.

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>>56486046
Just get ubuntu

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>>56485868
Do want me to remind you?
https://www.debian.org/women/

>>56486139
The logo is actually better. Based debqueens.

>>56486162
I'm sure you think so, nu-male

>>56479083
change font

Ok, I just installed arch linux how can I get japanese font characters working?

>>56486162
Found a svg. http://bcn2014.mini.debconf.org/logos/barcelona2014.svg
Someone wallpaperize this shit.

>>56486214
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/fonts#Chinese.2C_Japanese.2C_Korean.2C_Vietnamese

>>56486217
just use this: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWomen/Projects/MiniDebconf-Women/2014/Organizers?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=debian_women.svg

Linux on omegle is always "I'm on kali linux!"

Seriously fucking mr robot.

>>56486229
So do I just install one of these packages and thats it?

>>56486217
text, or just that God awful logo?

and what for?

>>56486242
I never had any other fonts except English, you should read the full wiki

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>>56486046

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How do you guys deal with trackers, redirect sites and other fucking garbage that's infesting the modern web?

For a long time, I used uBlock Origin and Ghostery. But given how much JS is sites today, it's fucking hard to deal with these tools because they break so damn much. I spend 10 min today trying to get some shitty 3 min video clip to load up properly. It had so many re-directs and dependencies on all kinds of ad/tracking/optimization shit. It's a fucking pain the ass.

So I installed a bunch of hosts files that block most of the domains and I've also been looking at dns logs to see where things are connecting to. I also wrote a little script to clean up dns logs so I can easily copy/paste domains into my hosts file and block them.

check out this screenshot... notice the fucking bullshit DNS redirects starting with somethign called mobsterbid.info and go down the list how many redirects there are. Fucking insane.

Anyway, blocking all this shit is hard work. How do you guys deal with it?

It's maddening how close Ubuntu is to being a serious option for home use.

Someone should fork it.

>>56486472
>unbound+dnscrypt

>loading video
point mpv to it

also
use 127.0.0.1 instead of 0.0.0.0 it may break certain routing/programs
also

#!/bin/bash
set -o nounset
set -o errexit

###############################################################################
##### This script will generate an IPv4-only hosts file that blocks domains
##### responsible for advertisements, analytics, and malicious activities
#####
##### Modified from: https://github.com/fr0stycl34r/update-hosts
###############################################################################


## We must be root in order to modify the contents of /etc
rootcheck() {
  if [[ $UID -ne 0 ]]; then
    echo "Please run this script as root"
    exit 1
  fi
}
rootcheck


## Backup the current hosts file
mv /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.bak


## Create a temporary file to dump the various lists into
temphosts=$(mktemp)


## Download various pre-made lists into our temp file
wget -nv -O - http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/hosts >> $temphosts
wget -nv -O - http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt >> $temphosts
wget -nv -O - http://www.malwaredomainlist.com/hostslist/hosts.txt >> $temphosts
wget -nv -O - http://adblock.gjtech.net/?format=hostfile >> $temphosts
wget -nv -O - http://hosts-file.net/ad_servers.asp >> $temphosts
wget -nv -O - "http://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers/serverlist.php?hostformat=hosts&showintro=0&mimetype=plaintext" >> $temphosts


## Cleanup the list; remove commented lines, remove duplicates, etc
sed -e 's/\r//' -e '/^127.0.0.1/!d' -e '/localhost/d' -e 's/0.0.0.0/127.0.0.1/' -e 's/ \+/\t/' -e 's/#.*$//' -e 's/[ \t]*$//' < $temphosts | sort -u > /etc/hosts


## Append some necessary stuff to the beginning of the file
echo "# Last updated on $(date)
127.0.0.1 localhost
127.0.0.1 $HOSTNAME" | cat - /etc/hosts >> temp && mv temp /etc/hosts


## A bit of cleanup
rm $temphosts

>meet cute girl on omegle
>she insists I get kik
>it's nonfree software and not available for linux

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>>56486528
>unbound
Can you explain to me what this thing does? I use dnsmasq+dnscrypt and it's been great. Iv'e seen references to unbound but I don't understand what it actually does.


I've been told that 0.0.0.0 is much faster than 127.0.0.1 and I've used it with dnsmasq on both Linux and OSX without any issues...

>>56486557
You: but yeah I use an OS called linux, it's kind of weird I guess. Not a lot of software for it, but it's private and free and I like it so I use it.

Stranger: What sort of computer do you use?

You: I built it myself and put linux on it. IT didn't come with windows because I built it myself.

>>56486581
>unbound
>dnsmasq
Same thing, different config, different features

>werx for me
Sure, but there can be issues, or you may be having issues and it is just re-routing. either way

>>56486450
No

>>56486606
>linux

>>56486472
Try uMatrix. The defaults work really well and once you get the hang of it you can block and allow through exactly what you need.

For redirects, you can also use RequestPolicy, but it can be a bit of a pain at times.

Unfortunately there's no magic bullet solution. The more privacy or control you want, the more effort you have to compromise.

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>>56486666
you dont need rp with umatrix

>>56486557
not worth it bro. she's probably nsa.

>>56486691
Explain, anon? That hasn't been my experience, though I could be using it wrong.

>>56486626
>Same thing, different config, different features
I've seen ppl use dnsmasq + unbound on the same machine so that confused the heck out of me. I couldn't figure out why you'd want to run them both.

>>56486666
>For redirects, you can also use RequestPolicy, but it can be a bit of a pain at times.
Yeah, it takes 3 min to open any new page properly.... after youv'e fucked around with it trying to enable various things.

Worst thing about these tools is that you enable one domain, page reloads, and then that script loads ANOTHER 10 DOMAINS that you have to then manually figure out and see which of them will enable the content you want to see.

ANother thing I tried was DNSSEC with dnscrypt but I was getting all kinds of errors for sites whose domains couldnt be verified (shit like slashdot, arxiv etc). I had to disable it in configs.

>>56486528
>hosts blocking
Get with the time. blocking with ublock is much faster than timeouting with hosts.

> Fedora 24
> Accidentally wiped my keybindings
> Want them back; don't use a DE and too lazy to bother with xmodmap

Augh. How do I set keybindings?

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>>56486557
Lol this actually happened to me.

Out of all things she told me to get snapchat.

Few months fast forward:
>I'm not with her anymore
>I have a gf from my casual job
>no one could make me install snapchat cancer.

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>>56486759
>Lol

>>56486745
ublock will literally shit its self and take 5 minutes to load a page through that many hosts
>not filitering host wide instead of program wise.

>>56486666
i cannot get umatrix to work with sadpanda
if i disable the addon entirely it works, but no level of allowing within the addon itself does
pictures are prevented from loading
help me quads satan

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https://github.com/hephaest0s/usbkill

>« usbkill » is an anti-forensic kill-switch that waits for a change on your USB ports and then immediately shuts down your computer."

this tool is the shit! make sure you install it. yes, you can whitelist USB devices.

Dread Pirate Roberts got fucked with a mouse jiggler.

>>56486735
>dnssec
>dnscrypt
Dont use both at the same time

>>56476414
Can anyone explain the Fedora hate here? I used Debian and Ubuntu forever, but I love Fedora now. Haven't found it to be any more unstable than Ubuntu or Stretch and its very up to date too.

>>56486821
Thanks for sharing

>>56486826
>Dont use both at the same time
hmmm dont they do diff things anon?

dnscrypt encrypts the tunnel to your DNS server of choice and DNSSEC verifies domains.

>>56486472
for video use mpv, livestreamer, and/or youtube-dl
browsers have no right in being crappy virtual operating systems
how do we deal? demand local copies, direct media to proper programs design to handle it, and block everything
you're doing good anon

>>56486821
>your computer
Why not disable that usb slot? Allow a usb whitelist
This programs serves no valid uses outside of kek look what i did

>>56486827
It's all memes. They shill for the worst distros like Debian, Arch, and Gentoo and call great ones like Fedora shit. They're just contrarian spergs.

>>56486893
>Why not disable that usb slot? Allow a usb whitelist
Disable how?
This thing does the whitelisting.

>>56486786
instant on my machine bro

>>56486885
Do you use a browser like lynx?

>>56486821
>imblying i didn't know of this already

what kind of shit opsec you think i'm using here?

>>56486893
> a change on your USB ports and then immediately shuts down your computer
dead man's switch idiot

>>56486916
Fedora is not great. But it is better than those distros.

>>56486941
>le 1337 haX0r
if you're so good, share more tips

>>56486795
Ah, Sadpanda has always been a bit of a nightmare even without addons for me.

If I had to take a guess, try going to settings -> my rules -> temporary rules -> edit and add

exhentai.org * allow
exhentai.org * cookie allow

And go to privacy and uncheck

Delete non-blocked session cookies

Spoof HTTP referrer

and

Strict HTTPS

In 2hu to be more realistic, you should have to weave through like a maze, and then when you reach the enenmy, you beat the stage. It would be harder but i think it would be good.

>>56486960
yeah ok leo sure

>>56486935
those can be fun
check out w3m too (through emacs maybe if that's your thing)
what i actually use is gnu icecat with httpseverywhere, ublock origin, umatrix, and selfdestructingcookies
librejs is there too, but i unfortunately have to disable it far too often

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>>56487009
>leo

So, I installed Debian Unstable on my T420, along with MATE for my DE.
I can't open any folders, Caja keeps stuck on "opening"
What the fuck is happening?

>>56486821
>jigger
Dont rely on APCI events to manage your system?
>im leaving my computer area
>LOCK YOUR FUCKING DESKTOP
>TURN OFF YOUR FUCKING DESKTOP FOR EXTENDED ABSENCE

FFS

>>56487094
You're a fucking n00b. Do you even know what happened to Ulbricht? Usbkill would have helped. Your ideas are baby-tier.

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>>56486756
ANSWER MEEEEEE!

>>56487127
A jigger is easily managed by MANUALLY LOGGING/LOCKING your desktop like ANY FUCKING GRANDMOTHER DOES.

JIGJIGJIGJIGJIGJIGJIGJIG
oh you're in a passworded lock(slock) barrier
TOUGH SHIT

>>56486735
Which resolver did you chose for dnscrypt?

>>56487208
if you ever end up doing something illegal, you;ll get caught easily and you'll spend the rest of your life in jail.

>>56487235
>Which resolver did you chose for dnscrypt?
I picked one from the list that:

1) is not in the US (stay from ones based in US and ones that are not in your country if your'e not from the US)
2) one that doesn't keep logs

you can look at the list that dnscrypt comes with and fine one that matches these requirements.

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>>56487244
The fact you think your 50 layers of "encryption" and your absurd "routines" are going to prevent a fisa warrant and an NSL, is comical at best.

You're on 4chan, mook datamines way harder then moot did. All of your posts are being made in to a profile to send to the authorities or media companies.
If you're this paranoid, why are you on the opennet?

>>56487272
I used to use stuff in Germany and nl, but i kinda remember big issues regarding privacy from them a few years ago.
Does it still hold true?

>>56487311
Germany is the most totalitarian, anti-privacy state outside of North Korea.

Source: am a Yuropoor.

On the whole it doesn't really matter where your servers are, but for the sake of it you should aim for countries like Panama, Norway or Switzerland.

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Why can't I edit the colors I outlined in red?

>>56487311
stay away from germany.

basically, pick a country that's not friendly to a country your'e from... and pick a service with no logs.

that will minimize the chance of your logs ever getting subpoenas.

oh, and enable ephemeral keys as well.

I'm trying to install Debian on my new laptop, but it says that it can't connect to the archive mirror. When I try to skip this step, it tells me it can't install GRUB on the hard disk. XPS 13 Ubuntu Edition if that matters.

>>56487476
does it have a working internet connection?
with an actual cable during install is usually the best and surest way to go

>>56487545
I've got it on USB tethering.

>>56487545
Remade my boot stick, working fine now.

What DE should I put on this thing?

>>56487647
Just install Void Linux.

>>56487647
XFCE

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>>56487647

>>56487647
xfce, but not all of it
just: xfwm4 xfdesktop4 xfce4-terminal xfce4-settings xfce4-session xfce4-panel xfce4-notifyd xfce4-volumed thunar

NSALinux
GRSEC
AppArmour
TOMOYO
YAMA

Which and why?

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>>56488215
TOMOYO because just look at this fucker

what do people mean when they say they want to install a distro in order to "play around with it?"

>>56488379
I don't understand the confusion. It seems pretty easy to understand.

>>56488410
play around with what though? change some wallpapers? go through the file manager?

redpill me on gnome?

how the fuck do i make this usable and look okay?

>>56488444
See how the system operates

>>56488444
have you only ever installed things directly off the debian trunk or something?
different distros do things is radically different ways sometimes
clearest example will be package management
step up anon
install gentoo

>>56488444
>>56488379
This.

What do people want to play around with, different default shells / gui shells? different package management systems, init daemons? Other than the package managers and a few file location conventions what is there to do that couldn't be done on a different distro? (assuming the same class of distro, eg not tinycore or something for a specific use case).

>>56488215
>GRSEC
anyone have pirated grsec patches? all the stable ones are behind paywall.

>>56488509
>how the fuck do i make this usable and look okay?
install cinnamon

I've just started using ubuntu and I noticed that the sound gets distorted at low volumes. Is this a common problem?
It sound like the high frequencies are being attenuated more than the low frequencies

>>56488509
Install arc-dark and an icon theme. If you need more just install a standalone wm.

>>56488549
I can't speak for everyone, but I usually rice them a little and when I get bored I try to find fun ways to break everything
breaking your linux install can be done in numerous ways and if you don't need to use that system it's actually fun to do so.

>>56487395
perhaps your theme doesn't support doing so
i'm not 100% sure if it's up to the theme, mind

>>56487204
xbindkeys

>>56487055
Have you tried reinstalling caja?

Have you tried calling caja from a terminal? There should be error messages.

>>56489407
Is there any way I can force the theme into accepting different colors?

>>56489637
well you could edit the theme files themselves

HOW DO I MAKE FISH MY DEFAULT SHELL?????

>>56489738
chsh -s /path/to/fish/binary

and bazambo

>>56489752
doesnt work???

>>56489360
Not that guy, but what themes go well with Arc Dark?

>>56476414
What causes this? Don't have this issue on any other pc.

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>>56489805
Whoops

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What's your irc client of choice?

>>56489822
HexChat

>>56489822
oldfags: irssi
newfags: weechat
summerfags: hexchat

>>56489822
emacs erc

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>>56489922
>oldfags: irssi
>not irc2

>>56489822
telnet

>>56489822
old wannabes: irssi
new wannabes: weechat
autistic wannabes: irc in acme
richard stallman: elisp-based client of your choice
sane, productive adults no longer concerned with looking cool on 4chan: hexchat. it has one of the better multi-window modes, second to emacs IRC clients showing channels as editor buffers (which can be in their own frames).
gods of personal computing: mirc in a windows XP VM

>>56486472
µblock, noscript, selfdestructing cookies and fake user agent to something common. Was using request policy but that is just too much effort.

>>56490219
I kind of miss mIRC.

>all those threads all over /g/

Why are those fucking apple events not in /biz/ ? Even the GPU threads you can find retards trying to argue over specs and the previous generations and how the GPUs will perform, but those smartphone threads are just pathetic.

Why the fuck mods permits this shit ? I'm pretty sure /g/ doesn't give a shit about the iphones in the end.

>>56490734
>Why the fuck mods permits this shit ?
Probably because it's temporary and inevitable. It's easier to just filter those threads and/or ignore them. They'll subside over time.

Be thankful it isn't like pokemon on /v/, where it's a yearly event that people hype up ~3 months before it even begins. It was so bad that /v/ had to be split off into a separate Pokemon board.

>>56489738
as root use the vipw command
this will let you edit the passwd file, where usernames, groups, password hashes, home directories and the login shell are defined.
find your user account and insert fish there.
also you might need to edit your terminal emulator settings.

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Any idea how to speed up printing under linux?

>>56491195
change the settings? (use fast/draft quality, enable bi-directional printing, etc)

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>>56491219
What settings exactly?
In HP device manager there is no speed/quality option.
And in Libre writer there are these options

Normal color
Normal grayscale
Draft color
Draft grayscale

Even when choosing the draft grayscale printing speed still matches that of normal grayscale.
Maybe it's other options that I've missed?

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>>56476414
I get this message whe i try to connect to my phone with bluetooth. What's wrong?

>>56491336
Use blueman

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>>56491280
while the exact options probably depend on the printer, try system-config-printer, with mine at least it has a lot more options than that
pic not mine as it's not currently set up

>>56491280
>>56491368
you can also check out http://localhost:631/
to see the CUPS web frontend, don't recall if it has printer settings in there, but it might

>removed systemd and libsystemd
>installed eudev-git (dbus xorg mesa util-linux)-nosystemd
>reboot
>overall works
>wpa_supplicant does not werk
>bunch of libsystemd.so.0 errors from pkgs depending on lib/systemd like chromium

what do?
>inb4 install systemd

>>56491386
what a mess
how can it be the year of linux with shit like this?

>>56491386
>CUPS web frontend
What are the defult username/password?
>>56491368
It doesn't detected HP printers.
Could it be "Printer language/Color/Color depth" options?

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>>56491510
CUPS is made by Apple

I use my Latitude E6410 for work purposes, with Arch Linux. Lately, xorg has been having... troubles. I can't quite pinpoint what's going wrong, as it happens very infrequently and on a seemingly random basis.

Now, before I go any further - I'd like to know of switching to Gentoo would be a better option. I do enjoy pacman, it's really easy to work with, but customization for flags set for building are enticing. One problem though, I'm unsure if compiling everything will take a millennia and a half...

But back on to the xorg problem with Arch:
Sometimes, there are "artifacts." These artifacts composite over certain programs for no reason, then disappear approximately 7 seconds later.

Furthermore, I am using i3. No gaps, just basic i3. I'd thought about switching to bspwm, though I'm not sure what differences it would provide. Would I be able to keep my i3bar config? It's just a basic ncmpcpp display, plus time in the corner, with my tabs over in the left, oriented on the top of the screen.

My main question, though:
Is switching to Gentoo worth it? I've worked with portage on a virtual machine quite a bit. Is it much different installing directly onto hardware?

>>56482932
>tl;dr
Nice attention span kiddie

>>56483476
> f.lux
Use Redshift instead. Way better

Do ppl still use Vim? Is it worth learning?

>>56493152
yes
people who use emacs are mostly just webdebs
vimmies are real devs

>>56493152
People at /g/ and self proclaimed wizards do. People with a job will use whatever tools the company provides. The tools will most likely be some kind of IDE. But yes vim is useful to edit conf files in linux. You just need to learn archaic shortcuts like "yank".

>>56493152
you should be able to do some basic editing in vim
wether you're going to use it as your main text editor is a different question, but when dealing with unix-like systems you usually have to use vim here or there for some basic editing.

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>install Arch
>everything seems to be okay except font in the terminal looks like shit and letters are overlapping each other

How do I fix this?

>>56493433
use a monospace font

-> >>56493514

>>56493433
add bohomil's repos and install infinality-bundle

install terminus