>Tries new distro >Ayyythat'sprettygood.png >Loving

>Chrome
Just go back to Windows.

>>56467117
>Tfw when no sublime

Why the hell would you need Sublime in Linux?

If you're not an expert, don't use a distro that isn't apt supported.

>>56467117
>sublime
non-free pig disgusting
>Google Chrome
non-free pig disgusting

>>56467155
This.

>Noob
Ubuntu
Mint
Debian

>Intermediate
Fedora
CentOS

>Professional / Expert / Hardcore Hacker:
Arch
Gentoo

>>56467117
Arch doesn't have this problem :^)

>>56467117
I prefer debian/ubuntu based distros, so I've got packages for everything.

Have fun with your hipster Linux tho.

>>56467210
Some day you will be good enough to use Arch.
However intelligence is mostly inherited.
A good question is: Do you believe in God?
If you answer Yes, you probably can never use Arch.

>>56467204
I'd switch Debian and Fedora around.

>>56467210
This is why non debian/ubuntu can fuck off.

>>56467117
> tar.gz hell
?
JUST build it yourself, that's it.

>>56467251
>>56467204
Why does Linus Torvalds use Fedora?

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>>56467188

>>56467229
*tips fedora*

>>56467229
euphoric

>>56467204
y0u forgo7 kali th0

Been using Manjaro for a month now. Pretty happy with it.

>>56467204
Arch isnt professional. it breaks like ecery hour and you need to spend like 3 hours fixing the issue

>>56467204
>>>>>>>>>>>>LE XDDDD N00B, EPIC1!!!

>>56467261
Because he has shit to do so he gets a distro that actually works and is well-supported instead of being a Gentoo/Arch memelord like the retards here who don't do anything but desktop ricing and dick wagging in OS threads.

>>56467117
> sublime
piece of shit
> chrome
apt-get install chromium
> no programs
get a debian or arch
> tar.gzs
unzip file.zip

Learn2man, my friend.

>>56467117
I've just used Ubuntu-based systems so far and OpenSUSE in 2007. OpenSUSE was kinda a bitch to set up and I couldn't get stuff to work. But then again I was a stupid teenager back then. With my current knowledge and Ubuntu, I didn't have any problems like you described. I also checked whether the programs I use most are available in packaged form for Ubuntu beforehand.

>>56467204
Can you imagine a professional using Arch? I can't. I can only imagine fat basement dwellers with memepads using Arch.

>>56467647
I'm using arch for like, 3 months and it never broke; idk man, I think the problem is you.
Really, I'm not even an Linux expert. Arch works far more stable than Mint I used to use

>>56467117
Are you incapable create own packages from sources until now? Even slackware with their SlackBuils tech offer the convenient way to build own packages. And even has the repos.

And most important: if you NEED windows software -- stay on windows, eat the shit

*suse/slack/debian-user*

>>56467155
Op here, I can use both arch and Gentoo I just grew up and got something that just works. Debian testing and ubuntu mate get the job done.

>>56467895
>Works on my machine
Kill yourself

>>56467877
Probably you need to try going out and don't learn from /g/

>>56467831

>and I did this thing nine years ago

bro

>>56467117
None because I don't use obscure special snowflake crap distros

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>>56467117
what about arch, or antergos or manjaro if you're not into that installing bullshit, if you did that you would have the AUR for all those packages to be managed with a package manager, you would do

>yaourt -S google-chrome
>yaourt -S sublime-text-3-dev (i think)
>or search the AUR for the package before installing

yaourt is the most popular of all aur wrappers, i personally use pacaur.

also, pic related the aur when you search for sublime-text

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>>56468381
and what you get when you search for chrome.

>>56467204
>If it Just Werks its a n00bi3 distro
nice meme goy

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>plug in openbsd usb drive
>hit enter a few times to install
>everything works out of the box
>manpages don't suck
>every piece of software I use is on the repo, including rust, elixir, plan9port and intellij
>could this be my dream dev environment
>open firefox to shitpost about it
>fans start to spin out of control, battery dies and computer explodes
>mfw

>install manjaro-sfce
>justwerks.jpg
>everything and their mother in the repos or aur
>gui for pacman/aur
>never breaks
>huge knowledge resource with the archwiki

>>56467117
>struggling with tar.gz
>chrome

Shouldn't you be using Win 10 or something?

>>56468527
how do you uninstall a package or something installed this way?

>install fedora
>it just werks

>>56468558
Either install it to a dedicated location

./configure --prefix=/opt/yourprogram/

or use something like "checkinstall"
https://wiki.debian.org/CheckInstall

>>56468558
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=uninstall+built+tar.gz

>>56468606
>wiki.debian.org
So Debian has a wiki now, years after Arch?

After using arch, I've never really understood what the point of the 10000 distributions was.

>>56468606
>>56468611
thanks! that's good to know, and how do i manage the dependencies of a tar.gz ?

>>56468665
You don't. If you want proper dependencies, you have to make your own deb-src package.

https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/

It's more complex than Arch or Gentoo.

>>56468473
>manpages don't suck
>they're outright wrong in many cases
>needing to press enter less than 278 times while installing openbsd, let alone extra up/down and space presses
Also, while freebsd is significantly better, it still sucks. It's really sad, but BSD in 2016 doesn't even compare to linux in the early 2000's.

>>56467819
>apt-get install chromium
Still not Chrome

>>56467117
>Install Ubuntu 16.10
>Install Atom Beta
>itworks.png
>Bye windows

Feels good.

>>56468712
that's to bad, i think that's the main reason most people have an issue with .tar.gz

>>56468804
>install Ubuntu 16.10
Error: the installer has stopped working.
Error: could not decrypt partition.
[hanging intensifies]
Error: could not remove logical partition.
Error: Something Went Wrong.

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This is barely related, but I can do a presentation about one of the many distros out there. This is the first time I've ever heard of them and I'm doing this for the sake of doing it, learning and hopefully educating someone else in my class. Should I go with the gentoo meme or do you think it's easier to grasp things myself if I start with a more simple distro?

>>56468642
>Not using the mighty Gentoo Handbook
THIS:
>https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation#Introduction_4
VS
THIS:
>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide

>>install gentoo my friends

>>56468849
I've used Gentoo for a few years before I switched to Debian.
Missing nothing, really.

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>Tries new distro
>Ayyythat'sprettygood.png
>Time to download my favorite most used programs
>Everything is in the official repos or the AUR
>mfw people still insist on calling Arch a timesink

>>56468873
Seems like i clicked the wrong post, the post is still valid as the Gentoo Handbook is far superior to the man-child wiki that is Arch

My first introduction to linux was when I gave ssh access to someone on irc on a fansub channel and he installed gentoo for me. Was around 2006 I think. He really shilled that shit hard and I got hooked on it, of course I borked the install after a few weeks and reinstalled it myself. I'm managing an overlay with almost 60 ebuilds now and can't live without portage.

I also feel the same as OP when I try other distros. How can you folks live with such limited package managers that fuck up every six months when you need upgrade?

>>56467117
This doesn't happen on the MacBook Pro with Retina display.

>>56468789
>Litterally Chrome without the botnet

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>>56469021
>Still isn't Chrome

>>56467204
Yeah if by "professional" you mean that fat bus comic "anime pro" lardass.

Go to any business website
>Ubuntu
>debian
>centos/redhat/fedora

It's time to leave the Irc circlejerk

>>56468473
At one occasion myself and 2 others spent half an hour each trying to install a certain specialized python module on different linux distros with no success. After 5 minutes it was up and running on my OBSD machine. Then again, I still haven't gotten sage to work on it.

>>56468900
Some of us don't need ebin monster cable codecs for perfectly rendering our weebshit cartoons. In fact, as hard as it may be to believe, some of us use Linux environments to get work done.

So I've just installed Arch for the first time, I did pacman -S xorg and pacman -S i3, yet when I startx, it fails

>>56469161
It's a shame CentOS is government botnet the operating system because it has one of the most well-designed, comfy installers I've ever used.

>>56467261
Because he's too lazy to try something else and it did everything he needed it to do out if the box.

>>56469288
pacman -S xorg-xinit

>>56467117
Are you using Slackware?

>>56467204
>wasting time on Arch or Gentoo
>professional
You meant teenager hacker-wannabe with lots of free time.

>>56467204
>>Professional / Expert / Hardcore Hacker:
>>Arch
>>Gentoo

You mean for real experts/etc. it doesn't really matter. Distro won't make you an expert. You would be surprised how many people with real knowledge use Fedora or Debian.

Take your shitty /g/ meme to some other shitty thread.

>>56469344
No that's Kali

>>56469323
Do I then add i3 to xinit?

>>56467229
>A good question is: Do you believe in God?
>If you answer Yes, you probably can never use Arch.

Euler believed in God.

>>56469311
This. It just werkz and its smooth af

>>56468391
>>56468381

Trusting AUR. College kid detected.

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>>56467229

>>56467153
some people use their computer for more than just watching anime

>>56469514
However unless they are hipster faggots they use a proper stuff on unix-like systems like vim and emacs. Maybe eclipse/intellij.

>>56469514
I think you rather missed the point of my post, anon.

>>56469536
This.

>>56468900
It is, because by this time next month, you'll be installing an update to X or your graphics drivers, and it will break X, as every single X or driver update always does.

>>56468970
My problem with gentoo is that you have to keep adding masks/accept_keywords/use the more you install or update, and you will eventually reach a point where it's impossible to further update or install anything or cleanly remove anything without dumping your entire .use, .accept_keywords, .mask and .unmask files, which in turn will cause ridiculous amounts of conflicts that can take weeks to solve.

Now, don't get me wrong, it's not like with arch where that shit would happen once a month - it takes many years (5 or so seems to be the average) to reach this point - but the problem is there.

Now I'm using manjaro instead. The loss of LICENSE and USE flags is annoying, but the AUR has more packages than portage + overlays (that is, actually working packages anyway - about 1/3 overlay package has been broken beyond repair for years which is another issue I have with gentoo).

>>56469693
That only happens to gamer faggots and their proprietary display drivers.

>>56469536
So you humiliate yourself into using depricated software jsut because you're stuck on a lecagy os? That's pathetic.

>>56469693
I only broke my installation once in 3 years and it was totally my fault.
This X breaking meme is stale.

>>56469177
I originally installed Arch because Brackets wouldn't compile on debian or ubuntu because they used an outdated glibc.

>>56469778
First it's spelled deprecated, second you don't know what it means.

1/10 bait.

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>>56467117

MAngta

>>56467117
Pretty much all the mainstream ones (namely, debian, ubuntu, opensuse, fedora).

>>56467117
debian, is great but I like latest software

>>56469903
That's what Debian sid is for.

>>56469914
>not using gentoo testing

>>56469914
Sid is always broken by design. Nothing ever works on sid.

>>56469953
Lies. I've been using sid on desktops for about 7 years now.

>>56469960
A second is not a year.

>>56469767
Well, I'm using the same install as I did five years ago and didn't have to dump my package* files into the trash. Probably mostly because I use kde/plasma profile and all important flags are set by that. I also am on ~amd64 so I don't have to unmask newer packages. Switching to systemd was also just a eselect profile/plasma/systemd away.

I can guess that using a plain non de profile complicates things beyond measure. But kde has excellent support on gentoo and is a pleasure to use here. I was surprised that even pre-release packages intended for distributions maintainers are available on the kde overlay.

Case in point, I have to maintain my own overlay separate to my layman'ed one just to keep up to date with some packages. Especially gtk+ packages take months to half a year to be available. I still don't have libreoffice 5.2 for example and gnome updates take at least six months to land here.

Oh well I do use gentoo as my own distribution system in my non-it company so I can't really just drop it now. I used arch before that but it was a pain to keep every pc in the same state and "stable" distributions have software and drivers that are just too old.

>>56467647
>Arch isnt professional
He meant the user is professional, no issues for me almost 3 years with out ""breaks"" last time was a major grub upgrade and I didn't read the pacman output cause #yolo.
Not a pro myself I just follow closely the wiki and manuals [spoiler] if doesn't work OOTB[/spoiler]

The trick to a well-pruned USE garden is using local flags unless you absolutely have to set make.conf

>>56470043
I set all my USE flags in package.use, even global ones

https://github.com/haasn/gentoo-conf/blob/xor/etc/portage/package.use/local

Much tidier that way

>>56470043
This, my make.conf USE line isn't even 80 characters long.

>>56467877
is just an up to date distro, is not like wating to you leave the desk to fail, just don't upgrade any package when you need to work

>>56467153
But there is Sublime

Just Ubuntu everything.

There is no reason to use anything else.

>>56470043
That's fucking retarded. You should set global flags as usual and then overrides in the packages.use directory as usual. Local flags are to be used only in one of two cases:
1- to test that the setting actually works before comitting it to the packages.use
2- to circumvent a bug that is version - not software - specific.

I downloaded KDE Neon and installed it on a netbook, seems pretty slick, no problems. The software centre didn't have much in it at all, I assume they heavily restrict the repo so you don't get overwhelmed by choice, but it didn't even have the Arduino IDE, which I thought was odd.

Doesn't matter to me, I only want to use the laptop for Arduino stuff, a bit of programming, and for a reference to look up things when doing non-computer stuff, so the computer itself doesn't need much.

As long as it's otherwise stable after upgrades, I would recommend it. Install was painless, and it had helpful warnings about UEFI and sensible options. I use Slackware on my main computer and wanted to try something that handles everything by itself, see how well it works these days, so far it seems decent.

>>56470193
>Local flags are to be used only in one of two cases:
That's fucking retarded

Why set a package-specific USE flag globally if you have no idea what other packages it might affect?

>>56470169
I prefer using an OS that takes less than 6 months (the time it takes for an update) before it can be installed without breaking harder than your mum when I come visit her.

>>56470207
Are you clinically retarded or just pretending?

>>56470213
My mum is pretty sturdy though.

>>56470241
She breaks out in laughter when she sees what he's packing.

>>56469914
>That's what Debian sid is for.
only if you are affraid to try other distro, why would you used debian unstable mode?, stability is the only reason to use debian

>>56470234
But he is right. take gles, egl and opengl or something and set it global. have fun with all the blockers because some packages can only have one or the other or some of your software gets experimental egl support and is as a result buggy as shit.
Profiles and local flags are there for a reason.

>>56470294
>only if you are affraid to try other distro
I had used
Gentoo for 3 years
Arch for 1 year
Gentoo for another 2 years
Debian sid for 7 years

I'm happy with it.

>>56470294
>why would you used debian unstable mode?
The question arose when I was tasked to manage servers at work, which ran Debian stable. I figured it makes sense to use it on the desktop too, to learn faster. After all I would need to roll my own source packages, know the peculiarities.

>>56470294
>stability is the only reason to use debian
Is that so.
Frankly, I also enjoy the community which seems more mature and less edgy.

>>56468970
That's pretty neat

>>56470325
Oh, so you're not pretending. How unfortunate.

>>56469693
stale meme
pls kys

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>>56467204

>tfw

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>>56469778
>legacy OS
>linux
Allow me to interject, anon.

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Debian

>>56468558
>how do you uninstall a package or something installed this way?
checkinstall -- creates plain package from sources. Another way -- install to chrot and collect resulting tree to tar. But this way i never tryed

>>56468558
>how do you uninstall a package or something installed this way?
good developers provide 'make uninstall' option

>>56469384
>kali waste of time
every tool needed to hack works out of the box? what a waste of time

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>>56468644
>After using arch, I've never really understood what the point of the 10000 distributions was.
I'll explain you nigga: the point in the concurence -- that is what povides quality of linux. Windows has monopoly for couple of years, and this is why windows so suck/

>>56470674
>>>/reddit/

>>56469344
?
Compiled my new kernel in like 20 minutes today. Updating is literally just a command that you can leave running while you do whatever you want. Maybe you're just mad that you're too dumb to use gentoo.

>>56470705
>Maybe you're just mad that you're too dumb to use gentoo.
Keep feeding the stereotype :^)

>>56467117
>What distros have you guys felt this?

*buntus without any PPAS

seriously how many do i need to add to get up-to-date packages?

>>56470472

but windows now has rolling updates, and thats bad, so yeah, gahnoo=?/-+loonux is legacy

>>56470696
have you anyting to sound aside of doghowling?

>>56470746
>aside
"except" wil be correct, maybe

>>56468789
>wanting to use one of the worst chromium based browsers
Even opera is better than chrome.

>>56468847
pls respond

>>56467117
that's desktop linux in a nutshell.

unparalleled when it works. nightmarish when it doesn't.

>>56468121
I had the same idea as you but went to nixos instead so that I never have to deal with package conflicts again.

>>56468847
>>56471721
>gentoo
Absolutely no. Don't even consider using/showing that as your first distro. It's meant for people who know exactly what they want and what they're doing. Just do a general presentation of several distributions, going from simple to more complicated ones. If you really have to, leave gentoo and arch for last. Making a gentoo presentation is probably the best way to make the class fall asleep in disgust.

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Debian was the most frustrating distro for me. I tried so hard to give it a fair chance, but their repository system is just so fucking bananas. Once I was trying to use apt pinning for more than just a few packages, I asked myself why the fuck am I doing this, and went back to arch.

I don't see any reason to play the time sink game with Debian because a bunch of nerds on /g/ call my distro of choice a time sink OS. If it werks for you, that's what matters at the end of the day.

Only issue I've had in recent memory is an issue with Broadcom but that's a pretty universal problem in Linux anyways.

>>56468644
People have different needs.

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>>56470696
I'll explain my sharpedge opinion to: why do you think military -- botch RU and US chosed Linux for their serous purposes? Isn't thea have money to get the BEST? Why NASA and NAVY chosed linux? Pentagon given not them with money for windows?

Why comercial services choises linux for WEB? Why mainframe maintainers choses that to? Or you realy thought they chose linux in sense of economy?

Your choise -- you housewife -- isn't a label of quallity/ You'r choice -- sound of lazy donkey. This why windows so popular around localhost users. And nowere else/

Sory my engrish/ I'm here to levelup it. And i'm litle drunk

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>>56469514

>>56472038
sources.list is so fucking simple it hurts, yet everyone i know that tried Debian is always confused.
Then again i met people unable to configure arch mirrors so i guess some people cant be trusted with editing text files without people telling them literally what would happen if they put a "contrib" or "non-free" or replace "jessie" with "testing" or something. Also pinning is easy if you can tell which number is bigger than the other, so its not that hard tbqh.

Бгггг пeдик бгг чyхaч вceгдa в тeбe

>>56472698
But source list is a mess with every gui app adding to the garbage. not to mention using release names in the URI, fucking really?

Бгггг
Tы мoжeшь cбeжaть c чyхaчa , нo чyхaх нe cбeжит из тeбя!

>>56472698
I don't know, I just never found it easy to work with myself. I couldn't figure out how apt pinning worked, and I couldn't find documentation that gave me a good idea of what I was doing. I also was adding a mess of sources to get things in my system. I just was frustrated, and didn't really feel like fighting it anymore.

I think if Debian works for you - GREAT that's awesome I imagine it's a little more stable than arch, but I just didn't have the patience to fight with my desktop anymore when I knew arch just werked and I found it easy and intuitive to configure.

If I ever have a major bug, I'll probably just jump to Manjaro but I don't know what that would be.

>>56472909
do you really need a gui to add
deb http://ftp.your.debian.repo/debian release main contrib non-free
to the end of the file?

its a mess on ubuntu, heave you tried reading it?
Also if you are scared of editing your main file you can use separate files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/<your repo name>.list

Really editing repos in fedora is confusing compared to debian, not to mention using AUR. And both of these things are easy once you do it once properly.

>>56473140
Чyхaчep, плиз.

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>>56472893 --->
>>56470746
>have you anyting to sound aside of doghowling?

I'm feel i must explain appearence of rusish shvine./ Il tooked your thread to promoute some idea./

An the thread where i leave my chosen board in the sake of forchan and another user --
https://2chru.cafe/b/res/1766109.html#1766133

I sad them i go to learn engrish. And leave the MY board. For a bit of time i've was their live meme. / I hope they will cry and fall and dye.

They knows me as 'Csandriel' on the russian theya gave me the пoгoнялo Кcюхa

>>56468146
Anon saying his experience with a distro isn't the same as saying "works on my machine". That's a strawman and you're a fucking retard because you can't see the difference

>>56473293
Бгггг, a этo плoхo?
Глaвнoe нe пpoгнyлcя пoд пидopa япoшкy.
Mooт тo yшeл oт вac, пeдики.
A я тeпepь cижy нa нoвoй бopдe мooтa.
A ты ,ббггг, шлюшкa, тpeниpyй инглишь , дa cиди тyтa.

>>56467261
>experiencing tar.gz hell issues
>being Linux Torvalds
pick one.

>>56467647
No it doesn't and no you don't.

>>56473213
well my guess is that you wanted the latest possible versions of software so you added repos or switched to testing/sid and got confused, which is totally normal if you never used apt or edited sources.list

But the configuration is really simple and easy to remember once you do it properly once.

Also i can agree that adding multiple unofficial sources or trying to combine stable/testing or something can lead to a state that you could describe as fighting apt, that's why they discourage mixing sources on every step in the first place.
Other than backports or some official repos from developers (like virtualbox repo for example) you should expect things to break if you mix two releases. Its like trying to make an Ubuntu 14.04/16.04 hybrid.

>>56467117
Every single distro I have ever tried except for Gentoo.

>>56473614
I sure am glad I don't have to deal with that on gentoo.

>>56473614
Yeah fair enough. I think Debian sid and testing are great for daily use, but I think my number one frustration was packages absent on testing present in sid. So then I went "okay I'll upgrade to sid" and one package was still lacking a candidate despite being listed, and the other had been removed an hour before. It got frustrating, so i just went arch. I think sources list is easy as hell to modify, but the core problem for me was just the way they split up their repos.

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>>56473305
And i feel i'll be long time with you/ Your ground lake of true spirit conquerors.
I'm at you'r disposal. Im learning english with your goods/

Sore me for this shvine. Im jst must was to point to my course. they will forget it. I'll be with you/ I'l get the language ine some day you wil get the charge/

Of thouse hwo the called mindfree Csandriel

Whats meay "store front"? I stuck every time i get this capcha

>>56473914
You would probably love using overlays with portage. Portage can install shit directly from git trunks with 9999 versions and you can check all "live" builds sources for updates and rebuild with any changes.

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>>56473305
Thay say this literaly

>Allright we have understood you're whimpering already you big fat faglord. Why won't you just get the fuck out of here if you've decided to do so? Welp let me tell you why that's because you're just an attentionwhore by you're nature and you can't be satisfied without anybody paying that precious attention you crave so much to your soppy sermons. Be sure 4chan won't be interested in you long and you'll be back here lol.

They bet you're not interested in me. you can say the same?

>>56473447
be easy on him, poor anon can't even proper english

>>56470742
>windows now has rolling updates like gnu/linux distros
>this makes gnu/linux legacy OS
wtf are you vaping?

>>56470343
makes sense, at least you got valid reasons more than just arch hate like most /g/'s that used it a couple of days, these day most packages even has .deb as default.
Community is very patient and kind desu, i'll stick to arch for a while, probably try devuan this weekend

>>56473708
I sure am glad i don't have to deal with compiling EVERY SINGLE PACKAGE on <insert any distro other than Gentoo here>. Sorry i just couldn't stop myself.
Still if you use just testing or just sid i imagine you get an arch like experience on Debian.

>>56473914
Well yeah that's what you get when you focus on making stable really really stable. I do understand that Debian is not a good choice if you want those really new packages, although i find that testing with security backports from unstable works well, but is just pain in the ass to install, and you have to deal with older packages than arch for example, especially stuff like nvidia drivers. Still i was impressed by how perfectly bumblebee worked for me on Debian , I couldn't ever get it to work as well (or at all) on Ubuntu, Fedora or Arch.

>>56476065
>They bet you're not interested in me. you can say the same?
They say, im faggot. Ein prophesist can't yield some attention at the motherland.
So be as to be. Kysmet.

>>56467204
> Beginner
Debian, Ubuntu, mint, fedora

> Enthusiast
Arch, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, LFS

> Expert
Whatever the fuck they want, because they get their shit working anywhere.

> Has a full time job
Debian, Ubuntu

>>56477407
>beginner == has a full time job
>expert =/= gentoo
the Damage Control begins

>>56467117
>sublime
You don't need this bloated editor on any platform, let alone Linux.
If you want bloat, go use emacs.

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>>56467117
>no sublime
What, like the text editor? Because if you visit the downloads page it's there.
>no Google Chrome
Who the fuck still uses Chrome? I didn't even use that shit when I had a Chomebook.
>tar.gz hell
What are YouTube tutorials, anon?

>>56467155
Fucking this. I'm an experienced user and I use Debian because it's easy and just werks with minimal effort.

>>56467204
>arsch loonix
>haxx0r
Pick one.

>>56468473
BSD is fucking shit and you and the other BSD niggers know it.

>>56468834
Literally never had an issue with Ubuntu and I've installed in several dozen times since 09.

>>56469131
Change the icon and you can't tell the goddamn difference, fucking whiner.


In before pissed off Arch/BSD manchildren attack my post.

>>56469536
>vim/emacs
>not hipster

>>56467204
where would opensuse be in this list?

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>>56477407
>Enthusiast
>Debian

Why does Debian get this high-horse?

Debian:
1. Installs to a full desktop by default
2. Uses the same package manager as Ubuntu
3. Same GUI's available for apt in Ubuntu are available here.
4. Also uses systemd

So basically fucking identical barring PPA's and stability.

Anyone proud of their 1337ness because they use Debian should be kicked in the balls.

>>56470632
>implying you'll ever use every tool from kali
>implying you don't waste more time downloading kali and setting up a VM or reboot to use the live iso than just installing the tools you really need

Yup, waste of time.

>>56481542
I don't like debian either, but that comparission is just stupid

ubuntu is based on debian, but even so, the filosophy in which is based is different.

also
>3. Same GUI's available for apt in Ubuntu are available here

That's the same for every linux distro

Your post made me think you're either trying to shitpost to start a pointless discussion, or you're an ubuntu user, preety new to thr oinux world, which was bullied by some debian user on some online conversation.

>>56467117
>no sublime
try atom or brackets
>no Google Chrome
oh you

>>56481542
>1. Installs to a full desktop by default
This is optional.
You can bootstrap Debian like Arch or Gentoo Stage 3.

>>56481542
>2. Uses the same package manager as Ubuntu
>3. Same GUI's available for apt in Ubuntu are available here
You don't have to use any GUIs.

>>56481542
>4. Also uses systemd
You can install OpenRC or sysvinit.

>>56467153
Sublime > nano > vi

>>56469462

And did Eller ever run Arch?

>>56467117
Are you cancer incarnate?

>>56482161
No, but he was fucking intelligent.

>>56467117
>when most non common Linux programs arent for that distro
wat

why would a DE/package manager/DM/misc programs affect how other programs are installed?