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After fucking around with various javascript frameworks and libraries..

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After fucking around with various javascript frameworks and libraries.. Meteor, react, blaze, node, angular1/2 etc. I can categorically say that they are all shit and I will be sticking with my superior language, self built MVC framework and comfortable knowledge.

I just don't understand how to get a decent structure and have a nice codebase behind these various javacript piles of shit.

Can anybody help as I want to get up to date, but right now it feels like a complete waste of time.
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Shameless bumping is shameless
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Im pretty bummed out with javascript myself
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>>56444262

I don't understand how you can that all of those are shit. While Angular is an absolute horror to write in, it's kind of legit and established.

React is actually kind of pleasant and not that complicated.

What are you trying to accomplish, and is literally no framework a good fit for you?

Also, I'd recommend looking at mithril.js, it's super fucking simple and unreasonably fast.
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>>56444610
It is more the gaining traction with use.

I prefer the blaze templating over angular 1. Didn't sink too much into angular 2 as of yet.

React is just weird, I have no idea on how to decently structure things as it uses .jsx - I am very much used to MVC.

When using meteor and react in a combination, I ran through the 'todo app' tutorial but then I was like, okay, lets hacky away and see what I can do but I just felt so lost and googling things helped 10% of the time...

Eh... I feel like I am running into a wall and someone is the other side adding more bricks.

i will have a look at mithril now I suppose.
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>>56444648
eh, to me it sounds like you should just pick something reasonable and stick with it for just a little longer.
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>>56444262
Congratulations OP, you are right. Building applications out of news network page markup is downright retarded and nothing about HTML5/CSS3/ES6 will ever fix that.

The fact that angular and bootstrap devs take ages for their latest iteration of their mediocre shit just facilitates this.
Get out of there as long as you can into a more serious industry, say, medical devices.
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