I sent over 200 individually tailored resumes since March (manually).

If you're still unemployed after this you might as well kys

>>56419442
If you aren't getting interviews, your resume sucks. If you aren't getting job offers, you suck at interviewing.

Fix your resume.

Maybe you're aiming too high. Apply for shittier jobs until you have a better CV.

>>56419442
Don't bother using machine learning, have block sections that you can swap to tailor to specific key words.

Also, have generic paragraphs with keywords that can be "dropped in" to form cohesive, to the topic paragraphs about your ability on [topic] to appeal to their specific position and show that you've tailored a resume.

>>56419506

Most large companies are shit because of HR. Basically they give you an interview if:
- You have a CS degree
- You have C#, C++ or Java on your resume

That's it. One of the recruiters I spoke to fucking called C# "C-shape". These apes are absolutely clueless and would rather hire a CS grad who can barely write fizzbuzz in Java than a self-taught lisp hacker.

The interview process is dumb too, but it's designed that way to filter out the retards who get in because of HR.

You just need the right connections in government or government associated companies. Otherwise you have to know how to properly present yourself or work in little IT shacks.

>>56419735
>would rather hire a CS grad who can barely write fizzbuzz in Java than a self-taught lisp hacker
and they'd be right, a guy who can't into OOP can't into Agility and therefore can't work in a modern dev team

>>56419812
Are you trolling?

>>56419812
That lisp hackerman would probably a GNU+Linux autist too and would refuse to work with anything MS related, which is ubiquitous in the companies the OP is trying to apply to.

>>56419442
>I run the bot as a daemon on each one of the library computers of my University. There are about 80 computers that I can access without credentials. Also I connected my slack bot to get live status from each processing node. I think at some point the system admin will notice the unusual CPU loads. So I renamed the nodejs process as chrome and I run the bot during busy hours to make it look like people are using chrome on those computers.


Make sure not to get caught and indicted for hacking and expelled from uni.

>>56419735
Nobody uses Lisp, of course nobody is going to hire you retard.

>>56419881
no
at least use Clojure

>>56419442
This entire post is pasta from reddit.

>>56419442
wtf OP, I literally have to answer the question I find on google at any interview and I never got refused at a job

>>56419442
post your resume

>>56419442
>applying for senior dev positions when you're this fresh out of school

Pls

>>56419638

This. If you're six months out of school, take what you can get and stop applying for stupid shit.

>>56419442
>And I went to about 8 interviews but got rejected from all of them.
sounds like someone has 'tism.

>>56420605
Shouldn't matter in the tech world. It's practically an expectation that you're completely unable to function in normal society if you're a programmer.

>>56419735
this to be honest

I was having a lot of trouble getting interviews for an embarassingly long time. Then one day I added a Java project I did in school to my resume (I only listed C/ASM projects originally since I was mainly interested in embedded jobs), reapplied to all the same places, and interview invitations started coming in.

I do not currently use Java for work, mainly C/ASM.

>>56420639
Wrong.

>>56420639
Nice post from 2005.

>>56419812
>a guy who can't into OOP
Where I work, bitching about OOP with valid reasons is part of the interview.
>can't into Agility
For the better...
I won't do again 70h/week, no paid overtimes, because a rich dumbass can't settle with the specs of his software.


>>56419735
Learn bash, pass a few linux/cisco exams, become sysadmin, automate your tasks and during your free time you can work on your personnal projects or assist other teams if you work in a small company.
I love programming but working in this field may be a total nightmare. I prefer just keaping it as an hobby for now.

the problem has to do with it being cheaper for companies to import indians on an H1B visa instead of hiring americans. having to compete with literal slave labor that can't quit without being deported is impossible.

>code monkeys outside the business arguing
lol, you're not cut for this business ,son.

>>56420915
>For the better...
never said it was for the best lad, still you're applying where it matters

>>56420639
Jesus Christ you need to get out more

This is what internships during your schooling was for. LOL.
Don't tell me you didn't get a degree, that's just sad.

>>56420966
And it never saves them money because, surprise, the Indians they import can't code for shit, so they end up bringing in expensive consultants to fix it.

>>56419895

And he would be right.

And whatever company was smart enough to hire him would WIPE THE FUCKING FLOOR with the MS trashbags with their HR and their project managers.

>>56419998

The point is that they're missing out on the obviously superior programmers just because they look for pleb buzzwords.

>>56421596
You sound like a naïve college student.

>>56421618
You sound like a Pajeet.

>>56419442
Lol your resume must just be shit. Companies are begging me to come check them out. I turn most down.

t. pure maths phd

>>56421686
>muh pure math
More like poor math. Everything you claim is pure fancy. You are not useful to employers.

>>56421658
Even a pajeet would know more about the world than a kid proclaiming to be "so much smarter than these dumb companies who won't hire me!"

>>56420672
This grinds my gears

>>56421706
Im sorry you struggled with discrete maths. It's too late though youve been replaced by 10 pajeets for 1/10th the price.

>>56421761
Contrariwise, discrete math was my favorite subject in my first year. I simply realized that it would not pay the bills, a realization that so far seems to have eluded you.

>>56421706
Also I'm leaving so I won't read your butthurt reply, but here's the thing. Even though I did do pure maths my work has real world applications. Even though my code might not be the best from a software engineering perspective, it gets the job done. While you sat in computer "science" I learned maths and programmed for fun. Im far more valuable than hundreds of worthless cs students because business can get pajeets for dime a dozen to implement my ideas.

>>56421851
>Also I'm leaving so I won't read your butthurt reply

Am I back in fucking 1997?

My resume is so shit (due to study delays) that Im afraid to apply for jobs.

I need an excuse why it took me so long besides me being an idiot.

>>56419442
Please tell me you are trolling. I hope you realize how much of a waste of time this is.

Fucking lol... .Net developer here, and I don't even consider myself good.

I never ever send out even one resume. Since I the last year of college I constantly get poached by companies and reject offers on a weekly basis.

Protip: speak at conferences about bleeding edge stuff, and make the presentations fun.

Last time I went for what I thought would be just contract signing and I start work (they needed a dev. and I was "the perfect fit" according to their email).

I arrive there and they hand me a test, lol. Told em to fuck off and went to another company. Fuck tech. interviews, that shit is cancer.

>>56421851
>muh ideas
Everyone has ideas. What makes you think businesses will pay you for yours?

>>56421885
It's pasta, you dolt

>>56421901
>I arrive there and they hand me a test, lol.

I fucking hate companies who include tests with the interview process. It doesn't prove what people do and don't know, because there are a lot of people who know how to do shit when they're actually at a computer but can't vocalize the steps when they're not. I didn't apply for a fucking server admin job just to be fucking mocked by your shitty little test.

Take my advice, amigos: if the company expects you to pass an actual, "list the steps to do X" test to work there, they're not worth working for.

>>56419442
time to kill yourself, i guess

or maybe pursuit a different career that is actually on demand, like meth dealer.

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>>56419442
Strip pii and post resume

>>56419735
Are you butthurt that having a degree gives you an edge in the job market?

idk, OP. Based on your experience I'm not sure if you're qualified to actually accomplish any of this.

You just need to learn how to merge lies with truths.

Thats how I got my job.
Got the job one month before graduating.

>>56424013

lol no

It's only the case in shit companies where hiring is done by technically illiterate animals. Places like that have cancerous company culture with non-technical managers.

Any intelligent person is better off not even interviewing at a place like that.

>>56421979
>can't vocalize the steps when they're not
Then what use are you?
Soft skills will always be more valuable than technical skills.

>>56424418

>Then what use are you?

To sit down in front of the computer and make the fucking thing you need made? duh?

>>56424443
Sorry, this isn't the mid-90s. Gone are the days where the tech guys were able to hide in a basement and have no one bother them.

If you can't get in front of customers/management and explain technical things to them in a way they understand, you're less valuable to a company than the guy who can.

Source - I had your same autist mentality back when I first got out of school.

>>56424481

I'm sorry you have died inside, anon.

stop being a beta male

>>56420672
This makes me think I'm making the classic mistake of pandering to the IT staff with cold hard facts when in reality i need to use glitter and buzzwords and whatever the hell it is those dancing monkeys in HR want.

Suppose I'll spend the week shitting out projects they like that will never be used again, something to warrant more keywords on the cv for things i have no intention to use.

>>56419442
Is this entire post bait, if you're clever enought to make something to automate the program you should have no problem finding a job. Just learn to communicate your skills breh

>>56424527
>able to communicate with other people
>died inside
This is what /g/ autists actually believe

>>56424398
>cancerous company culture
>non technical managers
frankly I wouldn't expect a good manager to know or even want to know the technical parts, they need to focus on running the team

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>>56419442

>>56419442
try not being a smelly, autistic fuck and maybe you'll get hired next time

>>56419506
This

I get plenty of interview offers from my LinkedIn profile alone, and I don't "tailor" that to any particular company at all.

>>56425578

>focus on running the team

What does this even entail if you don't understand software development? All you can basically do is say "you there, build this" even though you have no idea whether its even efficient or feasible to implement that feature at this point.

>>56420530
underrated post

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>mfw got two jobs straight out of college and got into medical school too with a B.S. in Human Biology

techfags btfo

>>56424418

>Then what use are you?

When the fuck would I ever need to walk someone through assigning permissions in Active Directory over the goddamn phone?

I have a nice university IT job. Pays well and I get to do minimal work. I don't even have a tech degree lmao

>not starting your own company

If you're not competent enough to develop your own marketable software then you probably aren't even that good in the first place, sorry to burst your bubble kid.

t. jonathan blow

>>56425831
your job will be automated in your lifetime

>>56420109
This

https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/50l1gj/cs_graduate_cant_land_any_jobs_im_building_a/

>>56421851
cs student and hobby programmer masterrace

>>56419735
>self taught
>lisp
>hacker

Ayyy lmao i actually feel bad for you

>>56427925
>medicine will be automated

medicine is still medieval tier compared to the many fields that can be automated, human doctors aren't going anywhere while illnesses are still largely diagnosed by "patient said his tummy hurts"

>>56428012

>mocking lisp

I'm sure the feeling is mutual.

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>>56428012
>The most powerful programming language is Lisp. If you don't know Lisp (or its variant, Scheme), you don't know what it means for a programming language to be powerful and elegant. Once you learn Lisp, you will see what is lacking in most other languages.

>Unlike most languages today, which are focused on defining specialized data types, Lisp provides a few data types which are general. Instead of defining specific types, you build structures from these types. Thus, rather than offering a way to define a list-of-this type and a list-of-that type, Lisp has one type of lists which can hold any sort of data.

>Where other languages allow you to define a function to search a list-of-this, and sometimes a way to define a generic list-search function that you can instantiate for list-of-this, Lisp makes it easy to write a function that will search any list — and provides a range of such functions.

>In addition, functions and expressions in Lisp are represented as data in a way that makes it easy to operate on them.

>When you start a Lisp system, it enters a read-eval-print loop. Most other languages have nothing comparable to `read', nothing comparable to `eval', and nothing comparable to `print'. What gaping deficiencies!

>mfw scrubs talking shit about Lisp

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>>56427925
Computers are become increasingly useful in drug manufacture and aiding in the personalized care of individuals. Electronic health records are paving the way for better communication between health care facilities while also providing a more robust source of information for physicians and other health care allies. Computers are rad as FUCK.

But nigga, you're telling me that a robutt will be able to write SOAP notes and provide reliable patient care when vending machines still eat my change? It takes year of preclinical, clinical and graduate medical training to produce a barely functioning physician. On top of that, you have fellowship and CMEs to create a single specialist.

But naw, fuck it. Asimo will be able to do that in 50 years. That little nigga can climb stairs, he can do anything. Nevermind the 72 y/o female w/ last BM of 4 wks who needs manual deimpaction.

>>56419489
srsly

>>56419442
>>>56419735
>>would rather hire a CS grad who can barely write fizzbuzz in Java than a self-taught lisp hacker
>and they'd be right, a guy who can't into OOP can't into Agility and therefore can't work in a modern dev team
Yup. Thing is, if you completed a CS degree, it shows you have the self-discipline to work, get shit done, follow instruction, respect/submit to authority, interact/work with others, and self-learn what you need to in order to pass.

If you're a self-taught lisp hacker, you probably have none of those above qualities and probably have several anti-qualities that would be directly detrimental to working well in an office environment.

>>56428239
On top of all that, the amount of paperwork, licensing, safety requirements, and testing that go into even the most basic of medical instruments, we're a far ways out from replacing doctors with robots.

>>56421596

>The point is that they're missing out on the obviously superior programmers just because they look for pleb buzzwords.

So superior that you work with hipster stuff instead of mainstream one? No. Nobody gives a shit about how full of yourself you are to be honest, they just need a job to be done and if you don't have the specific skills for that job and just have a bunch of edgy ones instead, then you're trash, you're not the one for the job. Get that into your thick skull retard, you're not special and even if you were it still wouldn't entitle you to a job. Someone claiming to be so smart wouldn't be so retarded when it comes to this basic stuff.

>>56427925
Doubt it. Automated medical procedures sound like a legal mine field.

>>56419442
>arrange interview based on my schedule.

You want a job and you expect them to schedule an interview that's convenient for you?

>>56419735
>Most large companies are shit because of HR.

If you're interested only in applying to large companies, that's going to limit your chances of employment.

>>56421979
>I fucking hate companies who include tests with the interview process.

It helps weed out 99% of unqualified candidates.

>It doesn't prove what people do and don't know

It proves basic competence. Every programmer should at least know how to reverse a string of characters or find the anagram of a string when asked to demonstrate them.

>>56428283
>If you're a self-taught lisp hacker, you probably have none of those above qualities and probably have several anti-qualities that would be directly detrimental to working well in an office environment.

That is a pretty strong leap. Obviously "has a CS degree" is code for "knows the deal in an academic/professional setting and cucks well", but that doesn't automatically mean the "self-taught Lisp hacker" is a cheetohbeard, that just means that by muh corporate stats the dude with the degree is probably a better hire because the Lisp dude is an unknown. In theory, interviews bridge this gap and decide if the interviewee is actually suited for the job, in reality the HR guy is a fucking retard and you need the CS degree or you aint getting hired unless you're such an indisputable wizard that nobody can deny your shit, but if you're on that level then it should be asked why you are applying to such a company in the first place. So while the CS requirement makes sense, it only does so because HR guys a shit.

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>>56428370
it's not happening because medicine isn't nearly mature enough to be automated despite the fact that it's an ancient field. shit's 2hard still

install gentoo

>>56425764
t. not a leader in his workplace

>>56419735
>self-taught lisp hacker
aka "I don't know dick"

>can't invert a binary tree on a whiteboard
I'm sure Microsoft "programmers" can't either. Face it: you can "program" some hacked together pile of shit like whatever you wrote or, you know, Windows, and people will use it, but it doesn't mean you're smart enough to be hired as a full time developer.

>>56424837
This is literally just like everyrhing in the real world, the more you can bullshit, the more you will succeed.

>>56428484
what is this website

>>56427925
>the automation memer

top kek son. Got a robot vacuum cleaner? Of course you don't because, even after decades, they're still so shit that putting some lego in the way or presenting them with a corner makes it have a fucking spasm.

You know what does get automated? A process that requires a defined single or short set of repeated, identical moments.

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>>56430175
>not being capable of typing "will my job be automated" into your favourite search engine

>>56428404
>reverse a string of characters
Is there an easier way than a clunky for loop?

>>56429005

>t. international thought leader on dicks

>>56430347

"ass".reverse

If they want you to do it in some autismal language just tell them to fuck off.

>>56430347
ever heard of a paradigm called functional programming ? or recursion ?

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>>56420672

>>56430685
>>56430713

I just recently started getti g back into coding after I started playing a game based around using something similar to a wordbank for coding to achieve a specific output for a set of inputs.

Sounds simple enough, except they limit your wordbank starting out, e.g. you have to square the inputs but instead of giving you a "^", it forces you to plug the input in as a starting point for an iterated while loop and += itself.

Naturally, I got pissed off because I'm not a complete noob at coding, but rusty enough to ragequit the game, so I grabbed some of the SoloLearn apps to get back in the swing of it.

Ofc, aside from derpy markup shit, my only previous coding wss a semester of VB.net of all things (though I did make a shitty dice rolling game with it in my free time) and a few skiddie batch scripts I threw together for my workstation at a call center I used to work at.

Gooks and le degree mandarin culture ruined software in the West

>temp work for a while
>agency sends me for interview for a customer care role
>smash first interview, called back for a second the next week.
>smash that interview as well, had the interviewers laughing and they swore in front me also
>i start tuesday

write your CV properly, keep it up to date and don't be a fucking sperg in interview. Answer their questions, always give an example of how you have done something in the past, or how you would do something if it were to arise, show interest, come with at least 4 questions to ask them.

It's not that fucking hard jesus christ.

>>56420639
I'm convinced that people getting into the tech world to not talk to people are flat out wrong in their expectations. Any front-faced job(which is most tech jobs) you're going to talk to customers, a lot. In fact on some days that's entirely your job. For example, people have this grand idea that the average network admin just sits on his ass all day in a secluded room with no noise from the outside. On a good day all you'll get is your manager bitching about something to you because someone bitched at him and you get your peace and quiet. On a bad day(which was most days for me) you have a couple hundred tickets to work because your network exploded. Each of those tickets expects a response via email to the customer, phone if its a VIP. It's an incredibly social job, that's why the people who don't know dick but are charismatic become managers and the people who know their stuff but have the personality of a brick get the bitch work.

If you want to move up in an IT office you have to network the hell out of it. Make connections with everyone you possibly can. Go to lunch with them, have a few beers, suck a dick maybe. You do this and they won't care if you're technically the worst employee in the office, they'll move you up just because they like you. You might not think that's fair or right but that's how the world works. You either adapt to it or die.

>>56419757
>little IT shacks
The era of even basic A+ holders getting easy normie/retail tech jobs is coming to a close due to pure oversaturation, to the point where even Geek Squad and all of it's clones want clueless retards that are probaly only marginally good with computers, lest someone with actual skill notices that there's little-to-no repair involved, assuming they still use the MRI system

Or as a jaded ex-Geek Squad manager turned teacher mentioned, a bigass corporate entity like Best Buy has barriers in place to prevent most cert/AA-holders from getting into the sorting process, as there's no way they're going to let ANYONE cruise through something as trivial as fixing computers for grandma while getting paid to do so

>>56421658
At least a pajeet actually gets hired