>election time >all the candidates are ancient, out of

>last election had a literal Computer Scientist running for President
>no one even noticed

>>56390054
>out of touch retards that know nothing about technology
The only thing you know is consumerism. There are many things that are more important in life than your video games and graphics cards and gadgets.

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It didn't have to be this way...

I kinda wish Obama could run again, I think he's at least somewhat competent.

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>>56390089
Who?

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>>56390054
2007
>Wow Obama is so tech savvy he knows how to use literally every iPhone app there is!
Every year since:
Massive leaks of sensitive information because of all the incompetent fucks he appointed quid pro quo.

>>56390648
Still better than Hillary with her retarded email """"security"""" or Trump with his complete ignorance. At least Trump won't fuck around with shit he doesn't understand.

>>56390648
I doubt McCain or Romney would have done any better. I'd argue that McCain would have been worse based on his questionable judgement with his VP pick

>>56390713
>At least Trump won't fuck around with shit he doesn't understand.
The guy is running for president while proudly proclaiming to everyone that he's not a politician.

It's questionable whether he's even rich because he's had to sue people for claiming otherwise and then couldn't produce any documents to prove his wealth.

His "university" failed spectacularly and he's being sued for it.

He ran a casino that went bankrupt. A casino is a business that takes your money and gives you credit which you use for the slim chance of winning slightly more money than you paid. It's a business that by design should almost always be running in the black.

His own statements frequently highlight how little he understands.

>>56390838
b-b-b-but shillary

>>56390054
When someone takes away the old fucks' ability to pass laws protecting their position of power

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Is he still running?

>>56391468
He's still running I think, as a libertarian. He initially ran under the "Cyber party"

>muh Bolshevik Bernie

>>56391684
It's debatable whether Sanders is even a socialist, let alone a commie. Nice meme though.

>>56390054
Millennials know even less about technology.

Our future is grim.

>>56391720
kek

>>56391611
He lost the libertarian nomination to Gary Johnson. A shame, as he was the most libertarian of the three front runners. Seeing him debate Trump, or especially Hillary, would have been magical

>>56390054
It's quite interesting that US presidents are always old farts.

I wonder how an acutally technologically adept president looks like. Like a young one with maybe some IT knowledge.

>>56391843

Gary Johnson is still by far the best candidate in this election cycle, and not just because Drumpf is a disaster and Clinton is a corrupt joke. Even against great candidates, Johnson would still be a strong contender. He and his running mate are both former governors with proven track records.

>>56390054
>all the candidates
i think you mean both

haha america

>>56390054
>>56391844
The youngest a President can be is 35. Which isn't that old, but not really young. Still, seeing someone tech literate in the White House would be nice.

>>56391844
There's a minimum age requirement of 35 so there's no chance for anyone younger than that.

JFK was probably the closest thing to a young tech savvy president and he did create NASA which created hundreds if not thousands of spinoff technologies.

>>56391844
Look at China.

>>56391844
>wanting a millennial, nu-male, white-guilted web developer faggot

>>56391969
There's also the issue of popularity. If a politician is not popular they don't stand much of a chance of winning their primary let alone the general election. So a lot of presidents are former congressmen, state representatives, former governors, or they have an extensive military background.

>>56391969
35 means someone born in 1981 thats actually the perfect age.

Since anyone born in 2000 has no idea how actually computers work they've all been simplified beyond recognition.

Someone born in 1981 say got his first computer in 1989 or 1990 there was still considerable more knowledge required to actually use one.

I'm personally a 1989 person and I ran DOS with NC all the way to Win10. I learned by far the most about technology in the 90 early 00 when things where still difficult.

Today you google your problems and it's easy as shit. Back then you actually had to find the problem and fix it yourself.

>>56392019

This is why our country is turning into shit: we care more about appearance than competence.

>>56391920
>Gary Johnson

Fucking kys

>>56392067

Read up on what Govs. Johnson and Weld accomplished in New Mexico and Massachusetts respectively.

>>56391984
Oops nope I got the history wrong he kickstarted the space race but he didn't start NASA, his predecessor Eisenhower did.

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>>56390838
Surely you understand that the president necessarily has whole platoons of advisers.

>>56392052
Yes indeed, just look at Trump with his really amazing-looking fake tan and characteristic swooping gold-dyed hair; and just look at Clinton's bizarre pantsuits concealing a nappy and a walking ER department. They've got this far on appearances alone!

>>56392033
There's more to a nation than computers.

>>56392052
Well American presidencies in the last 20 yeas ahve always been more about Flash then about substance.

Boring and dull is okay.

Problem with this pick a leader bullshit democracy is it's all about MUH FEELS

What you'd need for a competent democracy is people to take a test to confirm they're not dumb and can actually read economic and politcal plans.

Then after that every political side publishes it's plans and people read them...

Then they decide who to vote for.

Not voting for Hillary because she supports the gays but just 10 years ago she didn't or voting on trump because he wants to deport Mexicans yet Obama probably deported more then Trump will.

>>56392033
>Since anyone born in 2000 has no idea how actually computers work they've all been simplified beyond recognition.

I can say the exact same thing about people born in the 80s, guy. Bunch of long-haired manchildren who never built their own CPU from scratch have no purpose making tech policy.

In fact, unless you worked on the team who designed Zen or Skylake, you have no right to even use them, fucking idiots who don't even know tech.

And while we're at it, unless you have produced and directed a major hollywood blockbuster, you have no right to even have an opinion on what a good movie is

Now shut up and get over yourself. Tech always has abstraction layers, that's what specialization is for. Nobody knows the entire stack on their own and you're deluded if you think you do.

>>56392114

The word "appearance" means more than just physical looks and you know it and are either just trolling or a shill, you moron.

>>56392114
Not anymore really. In 20 years your cars your trucks your planes will all be autopilot.

Here http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/09/01/walmart-jobs/89716862/

Walmart to cut 7,000 back-office accounting, invoicing jobs

This could have been done 10 years ago but have a comments here.

This is what I do for a living, replace people with automation for a fortune 100 company. Here's what is really happening.

You wouldn't believe the amount of fraud, waste, and abuse happening right now. I automated logins for a department that used to use a physical punch clock to use Windows login and screen idle times. Last year, they paid out near 500k in overtime. This year, 9k, and zero complaints of inaccuracy.

Another division was getting service requests into an shared email box. 11 people were being paid to take the emails and copy paste them into a ticketing system. They were replaced with a macro that took me less than a day.

A fancy monitoring division outsourced alert validation to a cheaper offshore division a few years ago. 37 people were employed to get an alert in one application, search the alerting device in another application and either close the ticket or escalate. They were replaced with a fancy macro and a database.

I really don't feel bad replacing someone if their skillset consists of comparing a number and clicking a button, or copy and pasting text. You need to up your skills. Get a certification or something.

Here's the deal. Automation doesn't do everything. But the standard is 1 to 10. If 10 people are doing manual tasks now, automation will do 90% of it and give a dashboard to 1 person to handle anomalies.

Expect this. Get yourself trained and certified. I'm getting calls from recruiters and direct hire companies almost daily since I updated my resume with automation about 2 years ago.

>>56392114
>There's more to a nation than computers.
You say that, but then you go ahead and pick a candidate based on a single issue like "we need a border wall".

>>56392166
>11 people were being paid to take the emails and copy paste them into a ticketing system.
Jesus fucking christ.

Anyone semi-tech savvy could write a script in an afternoon to automate this.

>>56392136

If mass deportations were a good thing, idiots like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama wouldn't have done it. Trump would never get my vote, not even if Obama was allowed to run again.

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>>56392145
Yes, Trump's appearance as a bigmouth and Clinton's appearance as a corrupt, focus-group-directed puppet.

>>56392167
I'm English, so I can't pick anyone. Surely, though, you understand that the first and foremost responsibility of the state is security. Having hundreds of thousands of illegals flooding in every year is bad security.

>>56392114
>Surely you understand that the president necessarily has whole platoons of advisers.
Like two of Trumps campaign advisors have resigned this year.

He picks the best people

>>56392200
What are you on about?

>>56392223
I'm sure both of those girls know a lot about politics.

>>56391844
because to be president you have to spend years sucking the dick of other politicians

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>>56392232
Whoa.

>>56392166
I agree man, you need savvy young leadership. Mark Zuckerberg for president.

>>56392200
Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn’t include the number of people who "self-deported" or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

Obama did mass deportations sorry. And it was a good thing.

But thats not something Republicans want to acknowledge...

>>56390838
>His "university" failed spectacularly and he's being sued for it.
>He ran a casino that went bankrupt.


You do realize that Trump has over 500 businesses, starting from food and neckties and ending with luxury resorts?
You are like one of these retards that yell X IS BANKRUPT AND FINISHED when a company releases a single failed product.

>>56392223

Most people don't see either of them like that. Trump is still viewed mostly as the former host of The Apprentice, and Hillary as former first lady.

>Having hundreds of thousands of illegals flooding in every year is bad security
Not really. You were an illegal once too. Chill a bit, willya?

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>>56392260

>>56392281
"Illegal immigration is not a problem, does not make a nation less prosperous, and certainly does not make a nation less safe"
--anon, 2016

>>56392289

Sure, the problem are the ones telling us to get along, not the ones promoting hate.

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>>56392289

>>56392309
Hate makes a nation less prosperous and less safe.

>>56392278
It's hard for people to understand this.

Trump is more like a Samsung or one of the Asian "zaibatsu". He literally does everything.

It's like saying Panasonic sucks dick look at their Plasma TV they fucking collapsed. Panasonic is non existent. It's finished. And it was the Plasma team shout down the LCD team was sold to Samsung. Yet the company lives on and has a profit of ¥179.4 billion 2015.

Meanwhile they're making mad money producing the Tesla Model S batteries.

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>>56392340
>everything I don't agree with, or am not entirely comfortable with, is "hate". love trumps hate!!!

>>56392309
There are good illegals, in fact USA needed a lot of illegals to become what it is today. Also please don't compare past immigration to the muslim invasion.

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>>56392281
Come to Europe see how our friendly muslims are befriending us.

>>56392223
Trump is like Hitler, I don't know how you can support him.

>>56391752
Sanders himself said he's no more socialist than Ike Eisenhower in a debate, and while he supports higher tax rates and expanded programs he's still not gonna just overthrow private enterprise.

As someone who's generally against regulations and for markets, there's a good economic/business argument for Sanders in that his public safety net is preferable to the utterly fucking retarded current system of employer mandates.

>>56391920
Weld is the only VP candidate this year that actually adds to the ticket, imo.

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>>56392320
"The ones promoting hate" in this case referring to those in uproar over coverup of the mass physical and sexual assaults committed by a crowd of 2,000 illegal immigrants in Cologne on New Year's Eve.

>>56392340
>Hate makes a nation less prosperous and less safe.
I don't know man most of the Commie states were safe as fuck.

Like my country was commie before 1990 and crime rates were pretty non existent because if you did something you'd get shot or deported to a very work friendly place. So repeat offenders weren't really a "case"

Sure it was less prosperous. But it was hella safe.

>>56392375
Ugh I know, literally shaking right now.

>>56392278
I'm still not sure why the casino failed there's something shady there. Still I wonder if Trump has 500 successful businesses couldn't he use the money he made from them to pay for the debts of the few failing ones?

Trump University is being sued because they supposedly gave really poor advice to people and charged them out the ass for it.

>>56392375
You're like a mongoloid. I don't know how you can write.

>>56392223
If you think Trump isn't all about projecting strength (or that this does not fall under the term "appearance"), then you are an idiot tbqh.

>>56392366
My neighbors are Los Zetas members. They're undocumented *CITIZENS* and have contributed so much to the prosperity of this neighborhood. They don't even dump heads in the road or anything. You DRUMPFSTERS need to get over your hate and realize that no human being is illegal. Borders are racist. We're all the same. Things change, get over it.

>>56392374
But that was a Mossad false flag, anon.

>>56392431
So what America needs is a weak candidate who says he'll put America last and will generally be a weak weakling. Fuck the American people for being so focused on appearances.

>>56392416
For what purpose?
If a business can't sustain itself there is no guarantee that it won't turn into a black hole if you pour some more money into it.
It's easier to file for bankruptcy, salvage the assets and start another business.

If you make an AMD build that turns out horrible the wise thing is to sell is swap components in hopes that it turns out decent.

>>56392375
Exactly because he's a bit like Hitler. Sadly not Hitler. I doubt there will be anyone else like the Führer.

>>56392375
Because that's exactly what we fucking need right now. I don't even mind if Trump ends up starting a world war - most of the general populace has been turned into so big pussies, that they'd need something to man them up, make them learn that the meaning of loss is not having an iphone 1 version too old.

>>56390838
People don't want a politician. He doesn't have a career in it. Making a living off taxpayer money is cancerous.

He's probably pretty fucking rich.

His university made him money and that's what it was designed to do.

A shitload of casinos in Atlantic City and nationwide went bankrupt, too, you fucking dolt. That's roughly equivalent to saying somebody didn't know how to breath because somebody strangled them to death.

His own statements frequently encourage retards like you to go and post short-sighted dribble for him to refute and give him credibility. I don't think he's a good fit, but holy fuck, people like you are tripping head over heels to make sure he wins the election.

>>56392508
>>56392416

>is to sell is swap components in hopes that it turns out decent.

Is to sell it on ebay, not swap components. Wtf half of the post got deleted.

>>56392496

Because being (or rather, projecting an image of being) "strong" and "putting America first" (whatever that means) surely makes one competent enough to rule a nation. What was I thinking!

>>56392458
Many illegals came here for legitimate reasons like for work, most of them are just people that stayed too long. The thing is people build relationships and then when its time to leave it becomes difficult. It could also be that they don't want to go back to their country out of fear.

>>56392531
Clinton's the only one likely to cause world war. More likely, though, is that she'll order direct engagements with Russia in Syria (rather than the current proxy nonsense). Jets will be shot down, positions will be shelled, tensions will be at breaking point for a while, but no wider conflict.

World war is still a possibility, though.

>>56392374

Just your reminder that all those terrorists attacks are just part of a plan to set up a police state by importing a scapegoat minority and blaming false flag terrorist attacks by their own government on the population, obtaining popular consent for government power grab.

And it's working: you're advocating for superstatist candidates like Drumpf and Shillary in this very thread.

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>>56392574
>illegals
>legitimate reasons
If they were so legitimate, they'd legitimately go through the legitimate migration process.
>The thing is people build relationships and then when its time to leave it becomes difficult.
As if. Also often not the case because they don't speak the language and they self-segregate. So their own relationships tend to be with others in the same situation. They all have to go back. Also, no one cares.
>It could also be that they don't want to go back to their country out of fear.
No one cares.

>>56392340
That's why Trump is pushing for expedited immigration processes for existing illegals, fair H1-B wages, and breaking of the NAFTA.

Trump is the only candidate in this election that has given a shit about Mexicans, blacks, or any minority for that matter. It's a shame they're ignoring the only person who has shown genuine interest in helping them.

>>56392574
> legitimate reasons like for work

Work is not a legitimate reason to immigrate. That's a crime.
Illegals=criminals by definition. And since they want to work that badly a year in labor camps followed by deportation would be a good solution.

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>>56392612
>scapegoat minority
>the people in the countries affected can't even publicly criticize the special protected """"""scapegoat""""""""" minority without being prosecuted
Have a think, mate. Islamism does, in fact, exist.

>>56392613

>no, they're brown-skinned and speak with an accent!

Here, I summarized your post!

>>56392644
Aye, you keep the valuables and kick out the cunts post-haste.

>>56392644
nuuuuuuu we must give them free things to help them!

don't encourage them to better themselves!

>>56392655
>Islamism does, in fact, exist.
Yeah, and is the first and foremost victim of the so-called "islamic state", which conveniently enough attacks muslim country after muslim country, but never even sets an eye on Israel.

If you don't realize these are Jewish false flags, then I hope you're enjoying the taste of that blue pill.

>>56392574
Did you know that Mexico received $25 billion from illegal immigrants sending money back last year? This is a documented fact. Look it up.

They come here to help Mexico and fuck us in the process. Fuck all of them.

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>>56392656
Piss poor job of pretending to be a tumblrite my man.

>>56392684
Islamism (political hardline Islam) by definition is never a victim.

>>56392734

>instead of giving you a retort, I'll just redefine things and be automatically right

Nice try, but that's not how this works.

>>56392762
Islamism
noun: Islamism; noun: Islamicism

Islamic militancy or fundamentalism.

>>56392654
They get permits to live here temporarily for work and overstay those permits which makes them an illegal.

Let me ask you this: How will building a border wall prevent these people from doing this? They're going through the same passing that legitimate people go through.

>>56392684
>Islamic State takes territory in Israel despite being very thinly spread near the Israeli border and being in very many engagements already
>Israel invades Syria within two hours with the intent of wiping out Islamic State

It's the same reason they've only attacked a village in Lebanon, and why they've taken no territory in Jordan and Turkey: they can't yet. They don't have an infinite pool of logistics and manpower.

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>>56390089
>>56390613

>>56392806
That isn't even close to the majority of our illegals.

>>56392806
>How will building a border wall prevent these people from doing this?
Jail for employers, labor camps for illegals.

There really should be raids everywhere, checking the IDs and green cards.

>>56392806
Oh look it's the "everyone is like this example, so just give up" fallacy.

Also the US should stop having such a cavalier attitude towards foreign workers. It suppresses the wages of workers already in the nation.

>>56392832
Labor camps are unethical
While they may of entred illegally, they cannot be kept here and forced to work. At most (for worst cases) they should be deported.

>>56392815
Ew, a nigger.

>>56392883
>Labor camps are unethical
Said who?
Half of the world still has them for criminals.


> they cannot be kept here and forced to work. At most (for worst cases) they should be deported.
A crime must have a punishment. If there is no punishment the whole process is pointless.

>>56392883
>At most (for worst cases) they should be deported.
>for worst cases
>not for all cases

>>56392832
>There really should be raids everywhere, checking the IDs and green cards.
Pretty sure that's a huge violation of the 4th amendment. They also cannot be compelled to disclose incriminating information due to the 5th.

>>56392911
>A crime must have a punishment
You cannot hold residents of other nations in your country in forced work camps. That's horrible for relations between the two. Also they don't go unpunished, illegals who are deported today are barred from immigrating legally under most cases

>Said who?
It's more of a personal belief, that stems from the misuse of forced labor has been seen all across history.

>>56392955
People illegally immigrate because legal immigration is too difficult/long most of the time. We need to make legal immigration easier to stop the majority of illegal immigrants.

>>56392972

Constitutional rights are only for American citizens.

>>56393012
O really?

>No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

>>56393002
>People illegally immigrate because legal immigration is too difficult/long most of the time. We need to make legal immigration easier to stop the majority of illegal immigrants.
Disgusting cuckolding fetishism.

>>56392972
>constitutional rights
>noncitizen invaders

>>56393054
How is wanting immigration to be easier being a cuck?
It seems like instead of making an argument, you are just insulting my sexuality.

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>>56393047
That's why you need a big beautiful wall then. Or a fence. With good patrols and regular ultrasonic surveying of the ground below.

>>56390181
>tech = toys

Cool, another old idiot.

>>56393002
>You cannot hold residents of other nations in your country in forced work camps.
Where does it say you can't?
If you break a law in Russia for example, you sure as fuck going to cut these trees in Siberian tundra. No matter you citizenship.

>illegals who are deported today are barred from immigrating legally under most cases
They are illegals, they will just come back illegally. That's no punishment at all. Punishment is restriction of freedom and forced labor.

>It's more of a personal belief
allrite m8

>>56393081
The US gets 1,700,000 legal migrants per year at current rates. Is this sustainable?

>>56393012
Not true. The founding fathers believed in a concept known as "inalienable rights", the rights of any man on earth. These are rights given to you by your "creator" and cannot be taken away by anyone without reason. The bill of rights is listing of these rights, the states of the time were worried that if they were not explicitly protected then a future government could interfere with them so they were written down. The bill of rights doesn't give you your rights it protects them from being taken away. Illegals have the same rights that was the intent behind the bill of rights.

>>56393114
Inalienable for Americans, yeah. You aren't going to win this because the founding fathers had niggers bonded to them -- where were their inalienable rights.

Just keep the fucking illegals out and make sure it's easy to get rid of the ones already there.

>>56393110
Yes, how is it not? We have an abundance of almost everything.
>>56393082
Or we could just make immigration easier so we can save that money and use it for a better cause

>>56393081
>How is wanting immigration to be easier being a cuck?
You are willingly trading the future of your children for the future of Pedro's children.
That's pretty much one of the definitions of being a cuckold. Why don't you just take a shortcut and invite Pedro to fuck your girlfriend.

>>56393177
I raised my kids to be hard working people, if they cannot compete with Pedro's kids than they deserve the low paying, hard jobs they get.

If you set them up for an easy life, they will always fail. Pedro's children have the same right to the jobs we do, we just have to prove we are better than them.

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>>56393155
>We have an abundance of almost everything.
And in sharing that abundance like a great virtue-signaler you are, you end up losing that abundance. Half the population of the world is Portable Third World Generators.

>Or we could just make immigration easier so we can save that money and use it for a better cause
"Making immigration easier" means lowering the barrier for entry. What barriers can be lowered? Why should an illiterate person be allowed in? Why should an unskilled person be allowed in? Why should Juan the Criminal or Mahmoud the Former Jihadi be allowed in?

>>56393204
> if they cannot compete with Pedro's kids than they deserve the low paying, hard jobs they get.

Confirmed cuckold. Case closed.

>>56393204
Oh dear.

>>56393220
lmao nice argument pal
I really bet you are a hit with the ladies, or are you just calling people a cuck because jamal cucked you last night?

If you are going to be racist just admit it.

>>56393204
>working to make the world a worse place for your kids
Do you know how I know you don't actually have any kids?

>>56393268
Shoot, go ahead
I always wondered where 20 years of my life went

>>56393140
They're inalienable for anyone within the US jurisdiction. If they're not then explain how Guantanamo is necessary.

There were founders who owned slaves you're correct but slavery was ultimately abolished(aside from punishment for crimes).

>>56393244
>If you are going to be racist just admit it.

I'm a Jew, so I'm racist by definition. I view everyone else as an animal.

And that's why we always succeed. We don't let anyone take what's our. Even if we happen to have a dumb useless child, we jump the hoops and make everyone around him fail so he looks smart.

You will never understand that and you will go extinct. Just like the Romans before you and Egyptians before them and Babylonians before them. And we will just move on and prosper for another 5000 years.

>>56392703
Piss poor job of pretending to be a stormweenie my man.

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>>56393279
What do you do for a living, my friend?

>>56393326
>>56393366

Oh look, POL ERECTUS is back!

Reminder to hide tripfags posts, ignore tripfags and never reply to tripfags.

>>56392901
dude shut up i bet that nigger has done more with his life than you with your github of anime wallpaper to ascii conversion.

>>56393338
I am currently retired, but I used to work as a project manager for a project that specialized in radar technologies and "drone" planes.

My dept made sure that when somebody looted the planes they wouldn't find any stuff that they could examine and learn from.

>>56393401
That doesn't mean much, even Trump has done more than the typical /g/aymer.

>>56390054
This post is the /g/ version of "Legalize Marijuana"

>>56393440
anyone can start a tie company. can you compile a tie in C++?

>>56393338
Building a wall is not racist. The racist part is how Trump wanted to deport millions of people and how infeasible it is to do that without some kind of bias/profiling. I think he's trying to rethink his original proposal now and he's just talking about people who have a criminal record who are also illegal.

>>56393509
I am retired because the project went under, I retired at the same time. Whereas you may circlejerk over drone warfare, its safer than regular and has had its funding go down in recent years.

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>>56392901
>Ew, a nigger.

pic related is you.

>>56393401
Not him, but a .jpg to ascii converter is probably pretty hard to implement.

>>56392901
Funny how that negro is more successful than the greasy disgusting neets of /g/ will ever be (combined).

>>56392684
>Islamism is a victim of Islamism
you meant "islam is a victim of islamism", you illiterate cunt.
>it's the JOOS
kill yourself Amhed.

>>56393638

Neo-/pol/, everyone.

Since the cuckening, /pol/ hasn't been about red-pill anymore, but just circlejerking around Dolan Drumpf and hating on Muslims.

Reminder to go to full-chan's /pol/ if you wanna find out what's really going on in today's world.

>>56393675

You are a tripfag and a literal kike, you just admitted here >>56393465. So fuck off.

https://youtu.be/PzbusRK7YKM?t=359

Hillary Clinton wants a taco stand on every corner!

>>56393047
I don't think it says "the illegals of the United States."

>>56393114
You have to be an actual citizen to have those inalienable rights. Breaking the law to get in does NOT mean you are magically now a citizen. You're a fucking retard who can't even build a wobbly strawman. That's the dumbest attempted leap of logic I've seen in a while.

>>56393484
>its racist to send illegal immigrants back to the country they came from
Explain

>>56393758
Explain how you intend to single out the "undocumented immigrants" from the documented ones. The only way I can see it working violates the constitutional rights of everyone. You'd have to go to every person and ask for their papers which is a violation of the fourth amendment and they don't even have to comply with your orders because it's unlawful and because they have a fifth amendment right against self-incrimination.

>>56393338
if you want to build go ahead, we are not paying shit.
t. zeta

>>56393830
See: >>56393012

>>56393893
The constitution applies to anyone currently residing within the jurisdiction of the US. It doesn't matter whether they're citizens.

>>56393893
Also note I did say it violates the constitutional rights of *everyone* not just illegals. Mexicans immigrants who who have "papers" will likely be stopped just the same because there's no easy way to tell who is legal or not.

>>56393916

Which part? I'll type out the exact wording.

>>56393916
It doesn't. Remember how the jap residents were sent to the concentration camps during the WW2?

>>56393830
>Explain how you intend to single out the "undocumented immigrants" from the documented ones

Check their fucking documents. How hard is that? No documents = illegal criminal.

>>56390054
faggot

>>56393047
>No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States
>citizens of the United States
>citizens
You proved yourself wrong in your own post you fucking retard.

>>56394204
That was unconstitutional and even if it wasn't I don't think you'd get much support by campaigning on a platform like that, a lot of people find that to be shameful. Trump's platform doesn't even go that far and he's offended people in his own party.


>>56394218
So violate the rights of legal citizens then.

there should be one to throw you out of a helicopter. Kids saying people over 60 shouldn't are literally some of the dumbest moron you can met maybe even worse than fedora fags that want intelligence test back.

>>56394096
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

>nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

>any person

>any

>person

>>56390607
>Obama
>Competent

Pick one.

>>56394472
OK, so now we have "person," "citizen," "illegal," "naturalized", and "resident" at least. Let's take a step back and make sure we know what these mean before throwing around more quotes.

I'll let you take the first swing at it, since you seem to be trying to make some sort of a point.

>>56391920
Johnson is the weakest LP candidate. Rand or McAfee would've been a better choice maybe even Petersen. He's a fool in a suit. Now he's going to ruin the LP by attracting the ultra radical regressive leftists to the party.

>>56394564
You wont convince anyone outside of stormfront that illegal immigrants aren't people, the intent behind that phrasing is pretty obvious.

>>56394580

>Rand
A filthy neocon.

>McAfee
Literally a nutcase.

>Petersen
Literally who. Not even close to the proven track record of Johnson and Weld.

>>56394338
Document checking is not violation of any rights.

In the real world a cop may handcuff you and search you, including inside your ass if he has a probable cause, like he thought that he smelled weed from your general direction. And beat your ass into the ground if you as much as try resisting.

And all of that is perfectly constitutional and legal.

>>56394676

I'm not implying anything. I just want to make sure that we all know what these words mean before arguing about them.

It's standard practice when it comes to law. Pick a law dictionary or something if you don't have your own definitions you'd like to proffer.

>>56394801
Stopping a person if you have a credible belief that they have committed a crime is not illegal. Stopping someone just to check their documents is illegal however.

I doubt most cops want to stop and check everyone and open themselves up accusations of unfair treatment or harassment.

and people 10 years younger than you think that you're the out of touch retard who knows nothing about technology.

>>56394940
First, there is no such thing in the constitution.

Second, there is a credible belief that every 3rd spic in US is an illegal criminal. Which makes checking everyone looking remotely like a spic perfectly legal even in your imaginary land.

>>56395040
As a citizen they can ask you to stop and ask you for your information but they're no more justified in doing that then anyone else is. If you haven't been detained for a crime then you do not have to even acknowledge them.

I'd say you should probably comply with an order to stop though.

>>56394789
>Johnson
Buffoon. Carbon Tax. Open Borders. Thought TPP was free trade. Calls illegal aliens undocumented. ayy lmao.
>Weld
Neocon. Second amendment stance.

LP likely setback a decade.

>>56395164
That's not how it works, m8.
Go on youtube and watch faggots like you getting tazed and beaten while screaming "AM I BEING DETAINED".

You better not try this in real life.

>>56392166
Professional achievement aside, how do you feel about having destroyed so many people's livelihoods?

>>56390838

>proudly proclaiming to everyone that he's not a politician.

Don't ALL candidates do this?