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>get a free beer >it's gratis >download itunes

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>get a free beer
>it's gratis

>download itunes
>it's libre

Why does this distinction matter?
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As to avoid ambiguity and communicate better.

Same reason why people use different names.

Hope that cleared your doubts.
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because you don't understand it

itunes isn't libre, it's gratis
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>>56379434
Because freedom and free of charge are not the same thing.
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>>56379480
>decompile itunes
>it's now libre
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>>56379506
>free != free
ok then
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>>56379528
>freedom to take one home
>freedom to so whatever you want with it
Not the same.
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>>56379548
This kind of distinction is so fucking stupid it could only exist digitally

>somebody gives you a gratis shovel
>implying I can't do whatever the fuck I want with the shovel, like modify the handle, sharpen it, or paint it
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>>56379602
>take one, but you must first sign this paper saying you can't paint it
You can still paint it anyways, but you would be breaking the legal agreement.
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>>56379602
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html
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>>56379509
Assuming that logic beer isn't libre since you don't know the exact ingredients.
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>>56379434
iTunes is gratis, it is not libre. Words mean things, dude.
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>>56379675
Does the leaked KFC recipe make KFC libre?
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>>56379718
Yes it does.
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Reminder that free software is any software that you don't pay for.
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>>56379723
So the only thing holding back a gratis program from being libre is that it hasn't been decompiled yet?
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>>56379675
>you don't know the exact ingredients.

It's on the label you idiot.
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>>56379652
It literally doesn't matter, I can do whatever I want with my shovel. Whether my painting a shovel is "Gratis" or "Libre" is for autists with too much time on their hands to argue about.
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>>56379718
>>56379723

No. That's piracy.
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>>56379509
No it's not
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>>56379755
Take coke for example. It tells shit on the label but do you know how to make the exact same drink? Didn't think so you idiot.
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>>56379755
IT'S A MEME YOU DIP
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>>56379675
Beer isn't libre, that's the point. It's just gratis.

>>56379756
Yeah, right. There are laws saying you can't kill people, and you can still go crazy and kill people anyways, but that doesn't make killing legal.
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>>56379781
>It tells shit on the label but do you know how to make the exact same drink?

Yes: take the ingredient on the label and mix them together.
It's really no more complicate than that.
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>>56379835

Did you even finish high school retard? Do you know what proportions are dumbass? I bet you're parents regret not having aborted you, Jesus.
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>>56379823
We're talking about shovels, not murder, edgemaster.
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>>56379755
Alcoholic beverages don't list ingredients or nutrition facts.
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Gratis: It has no monetary cost
Libre: It doesn't restrict your rights
It's not a digital distinction, it's a linguistic distinction that exists in every non-retarded language.
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>>56379602

>Be in prison

>Guard gives me a muffin for lunch

>"I'm free!"
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>>56379434
>words are hard...
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>>56379509
>>56379743
No, if the author (copyright holder) hasn't given you actual permission to copy and redistribute the source code, you're not allowed to do it. Congratulations you now have some source code that you can't give anyone. Also you may have broken the proprietary license agreement by decompiling it.

>>56379725
not even close to correct. but you got a (You)

>>56379881
>shovels can't be used for murder
Owning a thing doesn't give you the right to do absolutely anything you want with that thing. If someone gives or sells you a shovel, you're not allowed to use it to murder someone. If someone gives or sells you a copy of a program, you're not allowed to make more copies of that program unless the copyright holder gives you permission (usually in the form of a free/libre software license).
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>>56379434
>mericans stealing spanish words
What's next, ser vs estar?
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dumbest thread on /g/ right now, congrats
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>>56379434
Well, if you go by the actual meaning of the words in their actual language, gratis is free as in $0, libre is free as in freedom. It shouldn't be complicated.
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>>56380583
If the shovel seller gave me license, would I be able to kill people with it with no repercussion?

And were do I get a digging license?
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>>56379480
explain
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>>56379718

One version of the source code has been released to the public. Without the updated development tree, it's not even really open source, let alone free-as-in-it-gets-Richard-hard.
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