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Today in Engineering Foundations, our professor changed our usual topic and talked about how automation revolutionized the 20th century in the first world and how further automation of most jobs, once done by humans, will go on to be done by not advance robots, but rather simple machines. Back during the industrial revolution, factory work being automated didn't completely make human workers obsolete. Same way how the invention of cars didn't make Horses obsolete. But I don't think today's world would fare that well. These machines will have expensive initial costs, but are far more cheaper in the long run than having a human employed in the same position. He went on by asking us what did we think would happen in a hypothetical society where most menial labor jobs such as retail and fast food, were completely taken by machines over night. Companies just decided that employing people wasn't worth it, and installed machines at majority of their installations within the same day.
Personally, I think it would be the downfall of modern civilization. Mcdonalds alone employed over 1.9 Million people back in 2014. Imagine if one chain in a city fired most of their lower ranked workers, and replaced them with checkout Kiosk's, and other machines that made your food in a fraction of the time.
Widespread poverty and riots would occur and people would break into the stores and fuck up all the machines.
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>>56366127
I'm not worried about it
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>Same way how the invention of cars didn't make Horses obsolete.
What? It did. There are relatively a lot less horses now than there used to be. There are no jobs for horses anymore. The horses didn't move on to do more advanced jobs, they just disappeared. We are the same as horses in the 19th century.
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>>56366127
1. Everything will be very very cheap
2. Companies will automatically pay more taxes as their costs are real real low now. This will create funds for the transfer managed by government.
3. There will always be the next new technology that humans will work to conquer
4. No one loves being a checkout faggot. They can now do other things that they would love doing.
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>>56366127
We're going to see low level office jobs replaced a whole hell of a lot faster than McD's. People don't want to touch a kiosk that a homeless man just ordered a McGangbang from.
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>>56366580
>1. Everything will be very very cheap
What makes you think that? Unless the govt steps in and puts everyone on welfare things aren't going to get any cheaper
>Companies will autmaticallly pay more taxes
If im not mistaken, they are influencing today's laws where they don't have to pay any taxes at all.
>No one loves being a checkout faggot. They can now do other things that they would love doing
How are they gonna do that if they can't make a living from it or even afford to eat
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>>56366637
A homeless guy wouldn't be able afford McDonald any way
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>>56366656
It's not that bad, but Capital Gains is taxed at about half the rate of wages.
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>>56366127
More welfare and/or more dead pieces of shit human beings trying to break in to steal things.
Natural selection at work.
Only the smartest survive.
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no, your professor didnt do that you are just trying to start one of the classic /g/ tool threads of LOL AUTOMATION XD
fuck off kid. automated checkouts are universally hated, and mcdonalds moving to machine checkouts wouldnt do shit. if ANYTHING you would lose maybe one job, but there would still have to be someone monitoring it all the time, still people to clean the store, and there is not equipment that can cook and make the food nor will there be any time soon.
i work in the food manufacturing industry and even though we have millions of dollars in machines for assembly lines, it doesnt do shit to reduce the amount of people that actually need to be on site.
we arent talking about god damn sewing machines
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>>56366895
>automated checkouts are universally hated
If you mean self checkout, who hates that besides retards who don't know you don't have to follow the voice commands?
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>>56366895
So many assumptions from this post. The people that worked manufacturing back in the 20s said the same thing.
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>>56366666
checked
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>>56367015
>The people that worked manufacturing back in the 20s said the same thing.
have you seen those chinese factories? high tech electronics stuff... being assembled by armies of chinese workers.
>>56366895
I actually kinda agree with this. the problem with food related businesses is that there is something more than simple food. most of the time, people go to places for the experience, social status or whatever bullshit companies sell, and not only for the food
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>>56367484
>have you seen those chinese factories? high tech electronics stuff... being assembled by armies of chinese workers.
Only in grainy videos from the 90s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFeMyuGt0mw
>1:15
>This factory produces parts for mobile phones. In the past there were 1500 workers working here. Now only 1 person is needed for each shift.
Hyperbole aside, it will take a while before the 1.2 million employees in Foxconn are completely replaced, but predictions from all over the world state that 20-40% of all jobs are at risk of automation in the next 20 years.
The economic system in all countries cannot cope with high levels of unemployment or with a too low job participation level as products and services need consumer demand in order to keep the producers in business. When ever more people rely on welfare, the high-quality, lower-cost technology provided by automation will face ever lower demand.
The outcome of increased automation and decreased spending power is what we have seen in Japan - complete secular stagnation, deflation, loss of competitiveness for the once global players. If the welfare state is overhauled in such a way that it accepts joblessness as the coming norm, there could be a potential for even more automation and growth, as low and medium-skilled labour is released from the need to seek employment. Though with the current consumerist mindset many will just stand idle and consume, many more will be free to expand their skill sets.
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Jobs that require a lot of subjective work and thought will still exist. Design, entertainment, customer service, publishing, sports, etc.
Considering how much of any industrialised economy is already made up of service sector jobs, I don't think anyone needs to worry just yet.
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>>56367706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBk7etxwBEA
1 year old video.
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>Cars replace horses
>Parking lots replace stables
>Stable services are replaced by shit like valet parking
>Guns replace swords
>Sword smith profession is replaced by gunsmith
Anyone who thinks that the rise of automation will lead to a tidal wave of unemployment is a delusional faggot.
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>>56368442
You're talking about replacing a product with a better product. We are talking about replacing workers with a better worker (robots/computers)
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>>56368494
Do you have any idea how much would cost to replace say, a million workers in China with robots?
>Installation cost
>Maintenance
>Whatever unexpected incident or error occurs
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>>56366580
>Companies will automatically pay more taxes as their costs are real real low now
Oh my sweet summer child...
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>>56368540
Do you have any idea how profitable it will be since your robots can work 24/7, electricity is cheaper than paying for your worker's rent and food, and robots can work quicker and with less mistakes than humans?
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