/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>aka /sqt/ - thinkpad edition

>>56350401
Pretty much. People need to learn how to google their issues.

>>56350408
They should. Where can I get a decent thinkpad for about $300 refurbished? Something with like 8gig ram and decent disk space? I only need it for word processing and maybe photoshop/ graphics stuff.

>>56350401
>/g/ anything but idiot questions and consumer technology

>>56350539
>with like 8gig ram and decent disk space
t420/430 and get 3 drives

>maybe photoshop/ graphics stuff
t420/t430 with 3 drives and dgpu

>x20,x30 series are old and underperform
>x40 have terrible touchpad
>x50 have nonexistent battery life
>x60 good battery life and displays but are expensive
what should i get? i need something for ebin outdoors hacking but also it needs to have enough juice to last couple years, i just dont want to end up with 1000euro pos that chokes when running a vm.

>>56350567
>x20,x30 series underperform
wut

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>>56350539
Here's your (You), b8master

>>56350566
And this is why it continues.

>>56350567
Buy a macbook fag

>>56350581
not everyone is so absorbed in computers and your very special secret online message board /g/ philosophy that they think up convoluted ways to push your buttons. you could be a helpful person like other anon but instead you are a dick, like a child making fun of a much younger child for saying a word incorrectly.

anyway this is the best thing i saw before posting in this thread. is newegg still a good computer store?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6AB34B3379

>>56350635
>$355 for hdd, 4gb ram, dual core i7, no dgpu and probably 1366x768
m8

>>56350694
oh woops. misread the max memory. is there any particular online store to look for these? like something good that i would not be able to find with a search enginge?

>>56350635
>>56350719
Fuck off to reddit

Thinking about getting a second hand X200. Anyone here owned one? How are they?

>>56350724
real mature you elite hacker you

Would a refurbished x220 with a 128 gig SSD have enough space for Linux + programs if I'm just going to use it as an addition to my main machine as a way to learn Linux? Like, is it enough for a full web dev stack or would a 256 gig HDD be better?

>>56351279
Its good enough. Get a mSATA one so you can throw in a HDD if you need to though.

>>56351297
If it came with an HDD would I still have enough room to put in my own mSATA SSD?

>>56350349
Buying a thinkpad for uni (either 13 or X260) and installing a Linux distro (probably mint) to replace the default Win10

I have never installed a non-Windows OS and I've heard that some laptops make it hard to do. Anything I should know before installing?

>>56351429
Note: I'm not asking for a step by step guide, I understand the basics, but are there any special considerations, incompatabilities, etc.

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>>56351359
Yes, the X220 has one slot for a small drive of 9.5mm height which can be an SSD or a HDD, and separately, underneath the keyboard, it has an mSATA slot

mSATAs are normally not quite as fast as SSDs but still much faster than HDDs

Some high storage you could get without paying out your ass would be a decent sized mSATA inside the laptop for your OS and main programs, and a large say 1TB HDD in the hard drive slot for most of your other stuff, but it is possible to run the computer just from the mSATA alone.
X220 has 2 slots for drives basically, so you can get the one with the HDD if you're also willing to pay for an mSATA and put it in as well, then reinstalling/installing whatever OS onto the mSATA and formatting the HDD

>>56351787
The mSATA is SATA2 while the 3.5 bay (and ultrabay on the t/w models) are SATA3 which is 2x as fast. Its still fast though. My T420 boots in 5 seconds with xubutnu from one.

>>56351279
Yes, but also consider the Elitebook 2560p as an option, it's the better laptop imho

>>56351787
7mm not 9.5mm

>>56351829
I knew there were two and I chose the wrong one

I think it might be 7mm yea, I just know that there's slightly larger ones that fit the X201 and X200, that don't fit the X220 and X230

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>>56351840
My friend has an X220 and my OCZ Vertex 4 doesn't fit in the slot so it's certainly not 9mm.
Also the top most part of the screen assembly where the antenas are has broken, I just don't think the X220 is all that impressive at all, don't know why /g/ likes it so much.

>>56351855
I'd take any laptop that has a good keyboard, decent CPU/memory, and is lightweight for <$200, but there aren't a ton of options

Found a x230 with 8Gig RAM 256GB SSD backlit keyboard for $300. Planning to use it to learn programming. Should I go for it

>>56351884
There's other business class laptops, Dell Latitude, HP EliteBook.

I am thinking of either choosing a t400 or a x200/1. What would /tpg/ pick for about $150 max for a shitposting, torrenting and porn machine that is decent enough to do all that. Does not have to be powerful as I already have a primary i7 desktop, and a x220 primary travel laptop.

>>56351909
I've looked at Latitudes since they're about the same price point for performance, but I like the keyboard of the x220 better, and it's lighter.

>>56351884

Dell Latitude E6420/E6430/E6220 (the E6220 is the 12.1" model and it's awesome).

HP EliteBooks aren't too bad but I'd take Dell over them or ThinkPads, no BIOS whitelist bullshit to deal with, easy to work on, just better in my opinion.

I've owned ThinkPads since the first one long ago and they just aren't worth their cost anymore. Lenovo has simply ruined them past the -20 series and they should be avoided.

I heard the t420 screen is pretty bad, are the x220 and t430/x230 as bad?

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How the fuck do I know what's worth and what's not? I read the sticky, but prices are different in the UK.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=z&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.Xx220.TRS0&_nkw=x220&_sacat=0

Open to other ideas like X230, T420, T430 etc.

>>56352160
>x220
>Not the trackpadless x200 master race

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>>56352160
For seemingly the same stats, why does the more expensive one sell better? I'm so confused, senpaitachi....

>>56352353
The bottom one is Grade B apparently and the top one is a "supurb ex corporate laptop" so that's probably why.

Is there any difference in hardware specs for the X220 and the X220 tablet? I'm looking at both of them and they're the same price.

My t430 idles at 48-53 celsius. Is that normal?

>>56352669
Little bit high, dust the fan. My 420 runs low-mid 40s usually on the 2620m.

X200t
My battery not detected.
Still had a little charge when that first happened.
Bad battery or fucked laptop?

>>56352792
Okay, thanks, I'll take a look at it.

>>56352669
My T430 (with i7 and NVS5400) also idles at those temps.
If your T430 has an i5, maybe try this suggestion: >>56352792

>>56352582
thinkwiki.org
All the specs are there

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I got myself a x200 with the p8600 processor for libreboot purposes (i've been posting this for a while)

Now I see that the asus c201 chromebook is compatilble with libreboot. Is the newest laptop compatible (i think)

Is there a way to compare these two laptops performance wise? I know they are different architectures with different characteristic parameters but, is there any magnitude to compare???

I can't find a website that compares cpus this way, they either compare computer-grade with computer-grade, or mobile with mobile.

Any ideas? I feel that the p8600 may have fell behind ARMs...

>>56352792
>>56352815
It has an i5. I removed the keyboard and cleaned the fan using vacuum cleaner since I don't have a can of compressed air. Now its down to around 45 celsius.

>>56353048
>cleaned the fan using vacuum cleaner
You like to live dangerously, I see.

OCZ vs Patriot vs ADATA SSD for my X230? Or other brand?

I cant do anything on my t420 without it saying an error occured.

I dont know what to do

I think it began with i listened to advice on stupid question general and someone gave me a purposely shitty thing to type in.

I did a fresh install of Windows 8 deleting everything on my drive.

Then did a fresh install of Ubuntu deleting everything on my drive.

When i had windows 8 briefly i downloaded firefox but it would crash on startup.

Now on Ubuntu basically everything fucks up but Firefox opens after a while.

Anyone have advice?

>>56353523
When does this message appear? Can you post a screenshot?

>>56353405
Samsung, Crucial.

Will a 2.5'' SSD fit in an x201? Think wiki says they only came with 1.8'' Solid State Drives, but in every video I can find of people swapping drives, they all look the same size.

>>56353577
I dont remember entirely as ive been up all night.

There were a lot of errors the first time i saw the red circle with a white line through it. Something about 6 different issues of e: (something like that)

It also said something like type apt-get to find the missing components. I did so but then halfway through it messed up and said the package failed or something similar. It said "report problem?". I figured might as well but when i clicked to report problem it failed.

The last time i looked at the red dot it said something along the lines of failed to check for updates.

Im reinstalling ubuntu now without encrypting any folders. Just a basic normal install in hopes thatll work. My next course of action is in looking up how dpkg or fsck work and if theyre the answer

>>56353701
Just reinstalling seems to have worked.

Ill go to ubuntu forums in the future. Kek, at least i learned.

>>56353586
i can afford Crucial BX100, BX200 or Samsung 750 EVO, which is best?

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Can you help solve this mystery to me?
My T420 optic drive sometimes make a sound as if it tries to eject the tray and sometimes it does.
Other times when I try to eject the tray it does nothing.
However the eject command works fine.
Is it the button?

Fuggg. Speakers are not working on my "new" t430. What do?

>>56353787
what OS?

>>56353755
750 evo

>>56353787
on win 7 but I booted up ubuntu live and still no luck. headphones work though.

>>56353808
>>56353897

>>56353897
Check your outputs and alsmixer on ubuntu.

>>56350635
>not everyone is so absorbed in computers and your very special secret online message board
Maybe you should go back to tumblr?

I "upgraded" recently from a T410 that I had been using for the past three years to a T440, seeing that it was a really good deal considering its specs.

I can't believe that they trashed like half the shit I liked about Thinkpads. The new keyboard feels awful, the new trackpad feels awful, there are no helpful LED lights to signal charging/caps lock/whatever, pageup/pagedown instead of back/forward beside the arrow keys...

Honestly, I wish I had just stuck with my old laptop, even if this one is stronger.

>>56350992
>Thinking about getting a second hand X200. Anyone here owned one? How are they?
I own two (well, one is a X200s).

They are AWESOME machines and a classic ThinkPad. 16:10 is good enough, though I wish they were like the X60 which is 4:3.

Make sure you get a 2.4GHz or 2.53GHz machine if you're getting a X200. If you manage, you can also get 2.13GHz X200s, but these would come with a 6mb cache (instead of 3mb on the X200 P8*00 series intels).

The LCDs are a bit of a lottery, but they're decent enough for what the laptop is -- expects you to be in a well lit room.

In particular the X200S is built like a tank, with a roll cage and its a bit thinner and lighter. I love that machine.

First thing you need to do though is:

- Get a new battery
- Get 8GB (2x4GB) of SO-DIMM 1066MHz DDR3 RAM
- Get yourself a SSD, doesn't need to be fancy, you're going to be bottlenecked by SATA-II.

If you get the X200, it's not too hard to use coreboot which makes your boot up times negligible. If you're brave, you can also go to libreboot which removes intel's botnet all together.

>>56353984
>I "upgraded" recently from a T410 that I had been using for the past three years to a T440, seeing that it was a really good deal considering its specs.

I hope you kept your T410. Those were the last good ThinkPads before they started chasing the shitbucks.

T420 went 16:9 which is cancer. T430 went chiclet, then they dropped the indicator LEDs and more.

Return it and wait for the ThinkPad classic.

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Question: If I hook an eGPU to my W520, I'd still need an external monitor right? Or is the model beefy enough to display on the default monitor without much lag?

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I ordered a T420 some RAM and an SSD. Did I do good /g/?

>>56353936
what am I supposed to be seeing here?

>>56354140
Check if the output is enabled and if the levels are up in alsamixer.

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>tfw it comes Sept.7

>>56354435
It's just going to be an iThing announcement m8

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>>56354232
Now what? Do I need new speakers?

>>56351450
With Mint everything just werks out of the box. Your screenfetch will be total shit though and you won't compile everything on your own.

I like my Thinkpad. Do you guys like your Thinkpads?

>>56354665
You can close the terminal.
Right click the volume icon on the top right and click on Sound settings.

Post a screenshot of that.

planning on buying a thinkpad, but can it run sims 4?

>>56354947
My T430 (w/nvidia gpu) runs GTA IV very well. I suppose that sims 4 is not as demanding.

I'm interested in getting an X220 tablet but is it possible to get one with a higher resolution or to fit another panel? 1366x768 seems a bit small.

>>56354924
I'll do that but a question: If the speakers are disconnected or somethings wrong with the cables the speaker wouldn't even show up in alsamixer, right?

>>56355052
I'm not sure, but I think it should appear nonetheless. The system detects the soundcard outgoing connection, not the speakers themselves.

But you can always open up the laptop and inspect the cable.

>>56355105
Yeah, let me post that screenshot first, then I'm gonna open it up. Knowing my clumsiness I'd rather avoid it though.

>>56355183
spray contact cleaner in the jack
also check your plugins for alsamixer/pulseauio and disable autoswitching and see if the speakers wake up

>>56355201
He says that headphones work. Read first.

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>>56355201
Does this tell you anything?
>also check your plugins for alsamixer/pulseauio and disable autoswitching and see if the speakers wake up
I don't understand this.

>>56355271
It looks normal, open it up and check the speaker cable.

>>56355269
If the computer always thinks that the headphones are installed, the speakers will be muted

>>56354661
I mean I get my thinkpad
>tfw new playstation and iPhone come at same time
Also, does it hurt to use 1.6Ghz RAM if the recommended RAM is 1066 MHz?

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opened it up
cant remove bezel completely its tightly held where it connects with the screen
at first look speaker cables seem undamaged
what do?

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>>56355833

>>56355697
No, it'll just downclock itself.

>>56355833
>>56355854
right speaker isn't screwed in. wonder why that is.

>>56327835
I'll deliver later today anon, but here's the gist of it
There's a digispark board with a 100 ohm resistor on one of the IO pins, which is then hooked to pin 21 of the keyboard connector. The USB contacts were soldered to an extra smart card reader ribbon cable. The digispark sets the IO pin as high-impedance while caps lock is off, and low impedance while on, allowing current to flow through the LED, through the resistor and to ground, allowing it to turn on
pretty simple really

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I bought a X220 in good condition for 50$.
Did I do good /g/?

>>56355947
That's really good. What does it come with?

>>56355947
Extremely

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I think i found the culprit
left speaker has the cable damaged

>>56350349
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182256264052
Just ordered this how did i do?

does anybody have a backlit keyboard for their x230/t430/t530?

whoever does, could you take a picture of it? i'd like to see how it looks before i made a purchase, and also I don't see where the controls for the backlight are on the keyboard itself in the stock pictures on ebay

>>56356033
>backlit keyboard
for what purpose

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tfw desk about to get a lot more usable

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>>56356033
t430, this is the brighter of the two settings

>>56356063
so I can feel cool when I'm typing at night. I don't even need to see it as I can touch type as I'm sure most of you can do as well

not even joking

>>56356125
thanks pally

really appreciate it, I think i'll be getting one soon then

What do you guys use the docking station for anyway? I was thinking getting an egpu + monitor and using the docking station for a small "gaming" setup.

>>56356407
I don't have one, but it seems like you already answered your question

>come home
>put thinkpad into dock
>have it off to side
>monitor in front of you
>as well as kb + mouse

easy way to switch from portability to traditional setup

>>56356407
Peripherals and ethernet, also charging the battery.

I also run an eGPU setup, i only dock my thinkpad, plug the expresscard cable for the eGPU and i'm good to go.

>>56350635
Back in the old days people used to be shamed by being told to lurk moar. Collectively we have failed this site by not continuing that tradition since it encourages independent thought and discovery. The tumor on 4chan is made up of many cancer cells, one of which is you.

The answers to your questions are in the posted links in the OP of every /tpg/ thread. If you had bothered to read what was in front of you and then ask specific followup questions, I wouldn't have called you out.

kill yourself

>>56356558
sometimes i spoonfeed retards, sometimes i don't

for example, right now I have a t430. I repasted it myself. I could swap out optical drive for an ultrabay adapter and put in a 1tb drive in addition to my 256gb 850 evo and have a fucking portable powerhouse.

years ago, I didn't know that, and I wasted $350 on a g-series lenovo laptop that was a total piece of shit.
i could have saved some $ had i known better.

should we always withhold information, even if the people asking the questions are obvious retards and illiterates?

anyways, 4chan died in 2012, thats when it took its last breath.
even /g/, one of the few holdouts, is all GPU and apple threads now

Do I need to get docks if I want to LARP ISS?

>>56356657
reconsider your life choices

>>56356691
>not running RHEL on your t60 while wearing a blue jumpsuit

>>56356798
*blue jumpsuit covered in velcro while hanging from the ceiling

>>56351855
>I just don't think the X220 is all that impressive at all, don't know why /g/ likes it so much.
It's the Last of the True Thinkpads
After that Thinkpads became almost unrecognizable

Sure it's shitty compared to the T60 days and back but it's still more or less the same compared to T440 and on

>>56356798
>>56356829
when I was 14, i went over to a kids house my freshman year of high school.
we played starcraft, portal, and ate pizza. but i remember one of the things we did was go into his backyard and play with nerf swords.

i never felt more embarrassed. I guess it was just all the times that i was shamed during my childhood that didn't let me retain the innocence of being a kid, but i didn't want to participate because the thought of being seen was too much.

personal blog over

>>56351992
x220/x230 have IPS options.

>>56353787
The speakers are awful anyway. You aren't missing much.

>>56354102
Why did you get a W520 if you were just going to use an eGPU?

>>56356881
>but i remember one of the things we did was go into his backyard and play with nerf swords.i never felt more embarrassed.
You faggot. I did that shit even in college.

It's not about what you do but how you do it.

Hello folks, I must inform I just fell for the meme:

Right now I'm posting from my recently arrived Thinkpad x200, running Fedora 24.

X230 in good condition (scratches, perfect screen), one year warranty, 8GB RAM, no HDD/SSD. 250€
should i do it?

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>>56357016
Pic related

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Is the Thinkpad 13 any good? I'm a CS student who is looking for a durable laptop with a long battery life. My budget is around $600 and I don't want to buy a used laptop.

>>56357095
>I don't want to buy a used laptop.
Why?

>>56357154
Because of the C-men

>>56357154
Because I don't know what someone may have done to it.

>>56357209
That's why you look at it and try it out before you buy it.

Thinkpads are pretty sturdy. Used ones usually aren't damaged.

>>56357209
C-men related stuff

>>56356879
>implying
Had a x220. Have a x230.
The x230 is better in every way possible EXCEPT the lack of a seventh row in the keyboard. Only that little bit.

Now if you talked about a x201 with updated internals and screen, I'd be all over that shit with a shitton of paper money on my hands.
Just look at the x62. HHHHHHNGG

>>56357154
>buying something that someone has probably touched right after masturbating

>>56357209
>>56357171
>Not buying refurb units, or units used in an office setting

>>56357365
Well, you use your own laptop after jacking off don't you?

>>56357016
>>56357089

Welcome!
I'm guessing it won't be long until you start looking at an X220 with an IPS display. Damn, I really wish I could stick my X220's guts in my X200s..

>>56356631
What happened in 2012?

>>56357413

Welp, the display is unconfortable, but not unbearable.

Getting used to the trackpoint, is painful.

The laptop is even prettier when you see it live. Cleaned it all up with glassex and alcohol, and now i'm intalling antergos because muh gnome and muh aur.


The key thing here is that i planned to use this as a shitpostan machine, but the tablet is way more confortable.

I feel a bit confused about why in hell did i buy this, so for now i won't provide it with SSD or anything. No more euros on this thing for a while.


Is your x220 your only laptop?

I have a T410 and its starting to show its age. What is the closest thing I can get but with better CPU/GPU? I'm really at a loss.

T420 doesn't seem like a significant performance increase and I see myself in this position again in not too long. T430 has chicklet keyboard and T440 actually removed the trackpad buttons.

W520 is a kind of big. Thoughts?

>>56357570
Took me a few days to get used to the trackpoint as well, it'll grow on you! Now I can't be without it.

Nah, I have an X220, an X220t and the X200s. Just can't turn down a good offer.

>>56357581
Has anyone here had luck with this?
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads
Contemplating doing it to my own t430 desu

And if the keyboard isn't too much of a turn-off, you can put a t450 clickpad into a t440.

Not sure about W series.

>>56352935
>asus c201 chromebook
ARM slow shit.

>P8600 fell behind ARM
Not even close. P8600 single core performance is about 50% of the fastest i7 you can get.

>>56357397
>>56357171
>>56357238
>>56357209
>>56357270
when I got my thinkpad, when I held it against the light I could see the faint imprint left by an apple sticker on the cover

that was when I realized I bought a t430 that had been under personal use, rather than corporate

still doesn't matter to me. Now two people have jacked off using this laptop.
All you have to do is take it apart, apply arctic silver 5, and disinfect body and keys with a cotton ball and some alcohol.

if it really irks you, you can replace the palmrest and kb but mine came from a refurber so they were already new.

>>56357633
>I have an X220, an X220t and the X200s

Do you use them all??? Feel kind of a hoarder with this one because, I have all my computer use covered with the phone+tablet+laptop combo

This kinda sits in the middle of the tablet and the laptop. New 9cell battery lasts longer than tablet and laptop tho

>>56357671
Also the Rockchip is 32-bit, the P8600 is 64-bit.

>>56357671
So, i should be happy with my x200. That's good news anon, thank you!

>>56357171
>not wanting free c-men
You're on the wrong website, pal. What kind of faggot are you?

>>56357728
I only deal with my own C-men, I can't trust someone else's C-men

>>56357691
I use my 220 at work, the tablet version is just sitting here ever since I got an IPS panel for the 220.. The 200s I just picked up cheap a few days ago, couldn't say no.

It's always nice to have backups

>>56357636
I would only try such a project on my non-main laptop. I'm looking to transition from the T410 so I probably wouldn't do this.

I'm really not a fan of the new keyboards. Maybe its something you get used to

Why does Lenovo hate us?

>>56357095
>I don't want to buy a used laptop.
Not as bad as it sounds m8, you can make the surface perfectly clean with some isopropyl alcohol and water.

>>56357750
>It's always nice to have backups

Yes. But what does it have to do with having several laptops?

>>56357727
>So, i should be happy with my x200. That's good news anon, thank you!
No problem, I have two of them.
Installed 8GB of RAM and a 240GB SSD. Boots up windows 7 in 5 seconds, opens visual studio in 1 second.
About to install FreeBSD on one of the partitions.

Will get to the LibreBoot step when I have the time. I actually want to modify CoreBoot myself, remove Intel AMT and deblob as much as I can without breaking windows support (which I'd like to have as a side boot)

What makes thinkpad keyboards so good?

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>>56357919
made

>>56357939
i really like new ones too desu
they are better than avg laptop keyboards.

>>56357950
I'm glad at least you're happy.

>>56357898
>240GB SSD

This. I really feel that the HDD is a slow fuck on this one, and it would bemefit greatly from a SSD.

But as I stated in >>56357570 I dont feel like spending more in this one. It has 2gb ram, but with an SSD that would be enough, and i would choose an 120gb one. I'm going inexpensive

>>56357792
Backup laptops, not data.

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>>56357939
That's not an answer

>>56358030

Well I think you are right, but what are the chances of breaking the two of them?

Back in 2012 I had to use an old powerbook g4 because my macbook broke uo and was on "repair".

Shit was slow as fuck. Lagged with just, youtube.

Beem trying to install linux ppc in it, but ppc support is just, symbolic.

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>>56358117
Slim to none of course. Still nice to have.

Hey guys,
what size hdd does my t420s have so i can get it replaced. Idk if its something lke 1.8 or 2.5

>>56358466
2.5"

>>56358271
I'm giving it it's chances. Installing the distro and the config that fits me the most.

Right now I'm using it with Antergos. The Gnome implementation fucked up scroll. In fedora, I used to push middle button and then pull the trackpoint down. Now I have to use arrows.

How do you scroll?

P.S.: Keyboard is so comfortable. Reminds me of my old job, with mechanical keyboards.
English setting and I'm spanish, have to stop everytime I need to type a symbol.

>>56358015
AWWWW SHIT MY MAN!!! I just discovered that it actually has 4GB RAM.

Welp, one less thing. Seller sold it as it was 2GB RAM. I was actually thinking of having 8GB for my macbook, and having it's 4GB installed on this one.

>>56358466
>>56358490
Will this fit in the t420s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA22F3X09341

I just tried to put the hdd from my old toshiba satelite in there and they were about the same size but it was just a litle bit too tall.

What's a reasonable amount of storage for an SSD?

>>56359376
depends on how much u need
I have 256 and it's okay, I'd def feel restrained on 128

>>56358036
Not chiclet style, thats why

>>56359376
Depends on the OS your going to run, and what you plan to do. But in a laptop I would say go with a minimum of 300. I have a 60 in my X301, but thats the stock SSD, and a 120 in my desktop just for the OS.

>>56359376
it has to be 7mm tall not 9.5mm idk about link

>>56359376
Linux distro for shitpostan and facebook and japanese cartoons (implying you store them in an external drive): you can go along with 60GB
Linux distro with actual programming, or actual work: 128GB, and you are gonna use 80GB of them max
Windows: You'll easily feel asfixiated if you dont have a 256GB

And I haven't even talked about gaming.

Boy, compiling GZDoom from AUR in this x200 sure is takin it's time compared to my 2nd generation i7

What's your x220/230 TLP configurations?

Is the x300 or the x301 still good computers to buy? They're sexy as fuck.

What are their limitations?

Is it possible to downgrade from latest bios?

Spilled water on the top edge of my x220. I shut it off immediately, unscrewed the keyboard and dried it out. Used it for another hour, then the keyboard stopped working.
What do? Pull up all the keys and dry them out?

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>>56359526
I have 250gb and I shitpost and gaym

fug

>>56351992
Don't bother getting a thinkpad without upgrading to the absolute best IPS display possible. Their base offerings are literally the worst screens in the entire industry. Even their IPS panels are barely acceptable.

>>56360294
OOPS, I meant *program. I do NOT gaym on my thinkpad, and I rarely ever do on my desktop!

Just ordered a T520 and X220. Did I do good or fuck up.

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>>56360345
Why both?

Also, x201 master race, yada yada.

>>56360357
>Why both?
Cos they both seem to have use cases and are the two best models.

>>56360309
>tfw ur moving to the eastcoast
why even live desu?

>>56351931

i have a t400 and that's EXACTLY what i use it for. pretty nice

>>56360293
Okay, simpler question. How do I reattach a mouse button correctly?

>>56353774
eject button might be jacked up. grab a replacement, they're aren't expensive.

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I just got a t400 with these specs. What can I do to it to ensure I can do some light gaming. Is that even possible with this or should I just use it to shitpost sarcastic anime girls?

>>56360357
Oh the tease.. I don't even want to touch my 200s until I get the nip kb

since tpg is the only thread that allows this

Is it worth to get a dockingstation for my HP EB8470p?

Never used one and thought of getting one as they go quite cheap

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>>56350349
T430 master race reporting in

Can you overclock XM CPUs in W-series Thinkpads?

>>56361080
yes, via intel xtu

>>56361014
So jelly of your 2GB Nvidia. I had to settle for the 1GB. It's enought, though, but I wish I could have found one of those.

>>56361014
>>56361110
what do you need more than 1 gig of vram for?

>>56360975
That's how I felt, too! I'm still waiting for some case stickers as well and then I won't be messing with this thing at all anymore!

>>56361227
gaymen. Got a problem with that?

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>>56361227
to play GTA V at acceptable settings, fampai.
>>56361110
I got a unit with 28nm core shrink (almost all nvs 5400m are 40nm). It's even more rare.

>>56361269
Does it get too hot while playing? I've tried and it runs GTA V, but for now I am replaying IV.

>>56361269
And you also changed the keyboard to the classic one? I actually like the T430 one.

>>56361252
>>56360975
Get a room, you two.

>>56361293
>too hot
You mean what I experience while having this laptop on my lap or you mean the CPU/GPU temperature?
GPU under full load never gets higher than 92C degrees (mostly 90C when playing fallout 4). CPU is 85-90 with typical load when gayming. It gets 100-105 (close to emergency shutdown) when it's 100% loaded with full loaded GPU, but I've never seen it shut down. Basically throttling kicks in after it exceeds 100C. Funny thing is disabling HT immediately drops the temperature by 10C. You don't even have to disable turbo in that case.

>>56361269
you aren't vram bound you tard
you are gpu/cpu bound because the gpu is a piece of shit
even my gt 650m struggles in gta, and it's 100% a gpu power limit, not vram.
if you'd turn your video settings down you'd get better than 30 fps

>>56361252
Hm, I guess that will be interesting to see.. I have a Lain sticker lying around, might be suitable for this.

Gotten used to the small space bar yet? I bet you have

>>56361327
Aww, will you pay for a night?

>>56361317
Yes, I did. T430 original keyboard lacks the context menu kkey between right alt and ctrl, which sometimes drives me fucking mad.
Also I prefer old location of pg up/down keys.

>>56361366
But 30FPS is fine to me, fampai.
>even my gt 650m
overclock it. My GPU is overclocked by 100MHz at core and 250MHz at memory (effectively 500MHz).
Well, unless it's 40nm chip, in that case you can rip it off and stick it up your ass.

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>>56357413
I'm starting to feel your IPS screen thing

Dude, 3h with this one and already have a headache...

Today I have reasons to have a headache but I don't know.

Is there any screen mod for the x200? The libreboot thing is the cause for this purchase, I dont want to change the model.

Anyone from the UK: How much would you be willing to pay for a mint condition W520?

>1920 x 1080 (Genuine)
> i7 2860QM
> Quadro 2000M
> 16GB RAM
> 256GB msata SSD
> 1TB HDD
> 500GB HDD
> No wear/shine to keyboard

>>56361558
>no wear
I think you forgot about cum stains under keys

>>56361626
It's a new keyboard senpai. :^)

>>56361470
Yeah I haven't really looked into it yet so can't help you, would like to know myself, but it sure made a difference on the 220..

Way too lazy to flash libreboot..

>>56361702
>((((new))))

>>56361829
But it is :'(

>>56361470
There's some AFFS panel you can swap in, which is basically the same thing as IPS. I think it's a glossy panel though and I'm not sure if installing it would break libreboot compatibility.

Thoughts on the Thinkpad 13?
Seems like a good deal for a student

>>56361373
No it's just silly meme stickers, like "GNU/Linux" case badges and windows button coverups. Nothing fancy to show off my autism to the world on the back. I dunno how I feel about putting stickers on this thing, it's so clean, it would make me feel dirty...

>>56362068
Sounds good, where did you get the win key sticker?

>>56362121
http://www.unixstickers.com/

We'll see how good the quality is... It's been about two weeks and they still haven't shown up.

>>56362028
Libreboot docs mention it, so I think it can be done.

>>56362176
Aight, I'll wait for the update on that

>>56362066
How compatible is it with linux?

I just bought a T530 on eBay for $310

i7-3520m
16GB RAM
Nvdia 5400m
180GB SSD

It looked to be in excellent shape, but we will see when it arrives, I hope the battery isn't too trashed.

I am already thinking that perhaps I bought too powerful of a laptop and I fear that a T430 or T440 with integrated graphics and an i5 would have been better for me due to the reduced weight and better battery life.


I should probally just get it over with and buy an X1 Carbon

>>56350543
if just it were like that.

>>56350349
what's the cheapest thinkpad i can find used or new with a 1080p panel?

>>56363122
T510

>>56363155
lol wrong

>>56363401
I suppose a 1920x1200 T61 or T500 might be cheaper, but talking strictly 1920x1080, the T510 is $200 or less, cheaper than any later 1080p models or the W510 for sure.

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Just bought a T420 and looking to replace the battery. Recommendations on any as well as how long it lasts you?

>>56361363
how much did you pay in total?

Well boys, I fell for the meme. My x220 was just delivered. It is awesome, love the size. Any programs you recommend me installing? Using this on the go for college but it'll also be part of my workstation. How can I transition from my main desktop to my laptop more seamlessly? Currently using chrome remote desktop.

>>56350401
We all start somewhere L:

>>56350567
Sounds like you should buy a brand new macbook or toughbook.
imo save up, because anything under $1,000 is gonna be shit or broken to you.

>>56350635
Please stay anonymous & go back to facebook or reddit.

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>>56356879
>last of the true thinkpads
>16:9, no lid latch, no parallel or serial ports
>implying thinkpads were not 4:3 aspect ratio for at least two decades
T42 was the last true ThinkPad
X300 was the last well built ThinkPad

>>56357581
W520 is pretty sweet, it is big, and its two AC adapters can be 2 or 3 times bigger than the standard 90W units.

>>56357792
>Implying /g/ doesn't have 3 to 7 different layouts for EDC threads.

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who /jank af/ here

>>56364515
how did you turn it on without a power button?

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>>56357939
tactile feedback
Latest iterations are not the best ones, but compared to the rest, there's few people who love them still. It just depends because people have fallen for the chicklet and less finger travel... I do like my pixel but typing sucks on some days.

>>56359376
64GB to get the job done
128GB isn't so bad
180GB is good
240GB is very good
480GB is great
500GB+ is why did you even bother finding a good deal on a laptop

>>56360345
>not getting a W520
Not really, good start for thinkpads. :3

>>56361005
They are pretty damn cheap
I used to use my W700ds in a dock all the time, but it was my main machine, I stopped using my desktop because it was an awesome machine.

>>56361431
Where did you get this information? I would like to know so maybe I can document it later.
I know nothing of the T420 having this info, so it would be great.

>>56361558
You could get one for £300.
There's employees who sell their office equipment when the bosses don't care about written off crap.

>>56364572
The glory of the *T series, lol2powerbuttons.

Charger just arrived for my T400 so I can finally use it now.

Liking it so far.

Is it bad if my charger is hot to the touch?

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How soon will it be before this keyboard makes it to the Thinkpad?
The whole keyboard is just a giant trackpad with Wacom feel tech.
Pretty cool to be honest.

So question for those of you who use an eGPU. How does switching between eGPU and iGPU work?

>>56365152
plug the egpu to use the egpu
unplug the egpu to use the igpu
or use both at the same time

>>56365201
no reboot or anything needed?

>>56362176
>http://www.unixstickers.com/
I can't believe this actually exists. This is great.

>>56365223
Oh right, you need to reboot after plugging or unplugging.

I'm using the expresscard exp gdc though so it's easy to do, doing this via the mini pci e sounds inconvenient as hell.

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>>56365152
On the Advanced Dock and Windows 7, it's as simple as pressing Fn+F7 and switching to the external monitor plugged into the GPU. When I'm done with it, I just do the same thing again to switch back to the internal screen. I've even got it set up so that I can run both screens at the same time, with the external set as the "default" monitor so that new programs run using the eGPU while the iGPU continues to drive others that were started before turning on the eGPU. Comfy as fuck thanks to the T60p's Flexview screen letting me do pic related without impacting readability.

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https://www.amazon.com/HP-EliteBook-2570P-Notebook-PC/dp/B01I5ULHX0/ref=sr_1_58?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1472681004&sr=1-58&keywords=i5+laptop&refinements=p_36%3A2421886011%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A7817224011

should i buy this?

t420blazeit been sitting in my drawer for months since the backlight fuse blew out (I'm retarded), and now I finally got around to ordering a motherboard replacement.

Originally, the screen was cracked so I tried to fix it and fucked up. I found some shit about 1600x900 screens with an adapter cable http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-LCD-Display-Screen-Video-Cable-HD-04W1618-04W1617-/282035185799?hash=item41aa9b6887:g:Y9EAAOSwintXRe52

and the screen: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=04W1618&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XSamsung+LTN140KT03.TRS1&_nkw=Samsung+LTN140KT03&_sacat=0

anything else to look out for? does anyone here who's done that have any tips?

>>56365421
no discrete nvidia gpu btw, just intel integrated

How's the W510, and what should I expect is a fair price?

>>56357570
>Getting used to the trackpoint, is painful.
After just a week, you won't touch the touchpad ever again. Trust me. I was the same way. Never thought I'd get the hang of it. Then I simply found myself using it more and more until it's all I want now

>>56365358
How is this cute? she's so fuckng ugly lmao

>>56364489
>>no lid latch
T4x0/T5x0 series has them.
>>no parallel or serial ports
Those have been gone from every computer on the planet, not just thinkpads. You might as well be complaining that it has USB ports.

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>>56365534

jimin is cute

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>bought pic related
>performance is shit
>display has many specs of dust in it
>display shows broken lines and pixel errors when I move it
>battery is 70% damaged
>no good drivers for GPU
>case bends at one place
Fucking hell, HP business laptops don't have all these issues

>>56365689
no shit it's awful. that thing is a decade old. what the hell did you expect?

>>56365717
Not this shitty build quality
Apparently the "old thinkpads are good" meme was always just a meme

>>56365689
>buy ten-year-old mobile workstation
>install windows 10 on it
>running on a SATA I HDD and 2GB of RAM
>complain that it performs like shit and there's no GPU drivers
What the fuck are you doing with your life? The T60p is too goddamn good for people like you.

>>56365689
What the fuck were you expecting you blubbering idiot? That thing is old as shit. Kill yourself.

>>56365746
I ran 7 and XP on it before, was slow as shit too

>>56365780
>running windows on a ten year old system

Go away tech-illiterate.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-160GB-HDD-4GB-RAM-Core-i5-2520M-2-5GHz-Win7-Pro-Laptop-300-/262597555820?hash=item3d2408b66c:g:jxcAAOSwZVlXwjA4

This seems like an okay deal, should I? Am I missing anything?

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>>56365780
It's still ten years old, no matter what OS you install. Put in an Intel T61 board if you want usable performance, but you sound like too much of a bitch for that. Better to sell it to someone who will actually appreciate that UXGA Flexview.

>>56365884
>Better to sell it to someone who will actually appreciate that UXGA Flexview.
As I said, it's fucked
>display has many specs of dust in it
>display shows broken lines and pixel errors when I move it

>>56357413
>>56357570
IIRC, you can slap an AFFS panel in the X200 and X201.

>>56365881
>no information about the condition at all

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Really hard to get over this meme layout and shit chiclet keyboard.

That fucking PrtSc placement instead of the app key (right click)

Useless Right alt instead of double OS key

FN Ctrl retardation ofcourse

No divisors for function keys

Large Delete above Backspace

Page up and PgDown smash in with arrow nav

It's like they're actively trying to fuck shit up
This would be okay if it was a consumer line but not a business line with an expected standard of consistency

Post X220 feels like a downgrade hardware quality wise also

The line's going further downhill every generation

>>56366563
Everyone's trying to be a tablet.

>>56366563
You forgot
>no touchpad buttons
>that build "quality"
>have to use FN key to use function keys
>no numpad emulation AT ALL

>>56356917
I didn't get it specifically for the eGPU, I got it because it was a really good price, and it's a fantastic computer.

And because I don't want my X220 to explode.

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>>56366586
Everything is trying to be an Apple clone

The Gooks at lel-no-innovo don't realize that the Thinkpad had distinct features that separated it from media consumption machines.

They had a winning formula from IBM

All they had to do was make an effort into selecting good hardware, adding good screen options, having good battery selection etc

No, instead we had to get muh thin and a bunch of consumer tier garbage with a thinkpad logo slapped on it

>>56366628
>>no numpad emulation AT ALL
forgot this indeed. I've been clutching in vain at where the emulated numpad would have been on my older machine for a while now.
I've spent at least an hour unfucking the layout with AHK in Shitdows and remapping keys in GNU/Linux

I should see if there is an AHK script out there to bring back num pad emu

>>56363625
The T510 is not 1080p because it is not 16:9

>>56364489
I have an X300 which I use as my travel computer. I've thought about selling it on multiple occasions just because the thing is so fucking slow that it's practically reached the point of uselessness. And the battery isn't even that great either; even with a fairly new main battery, and a new slice battery, runtime is absolute trash. I've rarely had over 6 hours, which is not much better than my W520. But every time I pick the fucker up, I'm just astounded at how well-built it is.

I'll probably just pick up an X260 at some point, or hold out in the vain hope that the Thinkpad Retro becomes a thing.

>>56365087
I'll bet it seems real cool until you have to type on it.

>>56360357
Where did you get one with that keyboard?

>>56365421
How did you blow the fuse? And what were the symptoms of a blown fuse?

>>56366999
o/

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>>56365087
Saw a little review of it, its interesting to say the least, a bit underpowered for me though.

>>56365548
>T4x0, T5x0
>T440 has lid latches?
>T550 has lid latches?
They don't

The whole 'real thinkpad' arugment is stupid, thats why I brought up the Serial/Parallel port.

Half of these fags want a 'real thinkpad' then read about how enthusiasts and /g/ents meme about the chicklet layout, and so they get upset and 'have to go to mac now'.

>>56366993
X300 is fabulous to type on, built well but its screen, performance & battery life is just sad. Specially when the MacBook Air got an nVidia GPU and the X301 stayed intel graphics.

>>56367000
forgot to take the battery out before replacing the screen

it still runs with external monitors and i can even see faint images holding a light up to the screen. I'm 98% sure it's the backlight fuse.

>>56363835
get this battery anon
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Genuine-OEM-Original-IBM-ThinkPad-Battery-55-9-Cell-57Y4186-Sealed-in-Box-/302033555273?hash=item46529a4f49:g:m5QAAOSwEjFXfrz2#shpCntId

me and another anon bought one each
it's a really good deal, as you can see on Lenovo's website the new 9cell for T420 is absolute shit. the 55++ is what I've had in my T420 since I bought it new in 2011, and it's got 80% capacity with 556 cycles

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do hp elitebooks have a good enough integrated graphics card to play 4k video? do you even need a good graphics card to play high quality video? you need need a good cpu and ram?

>>56367266
paruru a qt

>>56367266
Depends on the type of video
It should be enough anyway

>>56367261
i just saw the listing is down, your best bet is to find something similar. sealed Lenovo boxes and non-stock images are good indicators of a genuine battery. also, if you want 9cell make sure you get the 55++.

>>56366857
While that's the second-generation Carbon you posted there, which they acknowledge was a mistake, by and large you are right. It doesn't even make business sense because if you are primarily a laptop manufacturer, Apple is the wrong fucking company to be copying right now. Even the Macfags (the ones with real jobs, at least) are starting to hate them, and you can hardly blame them when Apple puts about 90% of its effort into developing what essentially amounts to a toy.

>>56365689
Shit that old is Linux only. And you're expected to at least spend $10 upgrading it to a C2D. T2500 a shit.

>>56360951

> light gaming

You won't be doing dick unless you got the model with the integrated HD3470

And even so you'll be stuck with an HD 3470, so you won't be doing anything more complicated than early Source Engine games at low settings.

>>56360951
upgrading the cpu and doing an egpu setup is your only option

>>56367431

kinda thought so, oh well. i'll just use it as my shitpost porn machine.

>>56367185
>they get upset and 'have to go to mac now'
I haven't thought about going Mac, especially with this whole USB-C meme, but honestly the newest Thinkpads just seem thoroughly unimpressive to me. I have a T540p at work, and I'm always elated when I come home to the W520. No idea what I'll replace it with when it eventually becomes too old and shitty to do anything.

As for the X300, when you consider what it was up against in 2008 (ie, the original Macbook Air), it's extremely impressive. The competition was peddling soldered RAM, a single USB port and 1280x800 resolution when Lenovo could give you proper RAM modules, three USB ports, an optical drive and a 1440x900 screen in something that was not much thicker or heavier. The brightness of the X300's screen is actually comparable to my T540p at work, so I would not really say it's "sad" by any stretch. The only thing that really does suck is the ULV processor, which from what I recall could barely outperform a Pentium 4.

>>56367431
I bought a T400 new for university in 2009. P9500 processor with the ATI graphics. While the HD 3470 could handle stuff like Rome: Total War, Civ IV and UT 2004 with ease, it was really not capable of anything more. It could do Starcraft II, TF2 and the like on medium settings, but as those titles were updated over the years, the bloat set in and the T400 couldn't keep up. It also doesn't help that the latest drivers from Lenovo are from early 2012.

Now I've sort of put the ATI card to sleep permanently and I use it as a Linux shitposting machine.

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>>56367335
>and you can hardly blame them when Apple puts about 90% of its effort into developing what essentially amounts to a toy.
Apple makes devices. We can think whatever about them but they have a core identity and featureset.

The Thinkpad line had this same core featureset before Lenovo decided to start refashioning it for absolutely no reason. It's a mistake to apply consumer habits and strategies to an enterprise line.

Lenovo has no pride in the core feature set of the line so they had no problem damaging the reputation by making all these large mistakes.

To shift the blame from Lenovo for a bit, I think it's also fair to consider that the lifecycle of devices in general has gotten shorter in recent years. Enterprise has gotten used to a shorter consumption cycle so there is no reason to go the extra mile with quality.

>>56367629
>I think it's also fair to consider that the lifecycle of devices in general has gotten shorter in recent years

Has it? Hardware wise the best most things do is make them more power efficient, but even then a 65w vs 95w was $10 a year. Sooner or later we'll have '4k capable' machines for cheap.

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>>56367654
>Hardware wise the best most things do is make them more power efficient, but even then a 65w vs 95w was $10 a year.
Yes, it has stalled recently but it's going to take a long time for the corporate machine to adjust to these changes and start demanding higher quality. This might not even happen because giants like Lenovo make greater profits by cycling cheaper quality hardware as opposed to supporting better hardware for longer periods of time.

While technologically we are starting to stall with processing speed and other important features we are entrenched in the short life cycle economically

Apple is a genius company, not because of the Chinese consumertard garbage they churn out but due to the market strategy they have created around it. They have lead the market in planned obsolescence and companies like Lenovo are learning and adapting.

I think the future is cheap shit hardware with short lifespans upheld by poor documentation, servicing, self repair options, firmware availability, and part support

>>56367629
Honestly I think the reputational damage has only occurred in the enthusiast community, which Lenovo doesn't care about. At this point enterprise is their target market, and enterprise buys these computers out of habit, good or bad. If the screens are shit, they don't care, it's the employees who suffer. If the keyboard is shit, they don't care, again it's not the executives who are going to suffer.

As far as Lenovo is concerned, so long as enterprise keeps doing what it is doing, they haven't made any mistakes.

>>56360951
ThinkPads are for those who do, not those who game.

>>56367629
>カラー
Why? 色 exists. Why katakana engrish, japan?

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>>56367468
It somehow played LoL though, heh, lost the match :x

>>56365689
hahahaha
you bought such a piece of shit
that shit flies on ZorinOS, worked damn good on Windows 7, I miss my 14" T60p

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>>56367880
>As far as Lenovo is concerned, so long as enterprise keeps doing what it is doing,
This is true and it was true when applied to IBM as well except that IBM had a certain consistency (perhaps a product of self respect)

The best thing they could have done was not to touch the core lines. Just re-release with newer hardware while keeping everything the same. Unfortunately they decided to cheapen up the line and mask it as redesign and modernization. The gooks shamelessly chase margins which led to a bunch of abortions with the Thinkpad logo

I do think it's damaging to the brand to some extent to release a ton of garbage. Remember that Shitpads used to be much more popular in academia and private professionals, which aren't exactly small markets.

>>56351855
>My friend has an X220 and my OCZ Vertex 4 doesn't fit in the slot so it's certainly not 9mm.
Vertex is slightly more than 9mm, but the X220 takes 7mm and 9mm drives without problem.
>Also the top most part of the screen assembly where the antenas are has broken
It fell? I have two one of them took a fall to concrete like a champ and the chasis has a dent, other than that no problems.

Original TN screens are shit, best you can do is to get one with IPS. If you can't live without USB3 you need to get an i7 model. Other than that I haven't had a laptop that was so easy to repair, upgrade and work on and the fact that you can get 9 hours with the extended battery makes it worth it.

>>56368119
>slot so it's certainly not 9mm.
jam it in without the rubber rails
should fit, I think OCZ has that shitty plastic casing sticking slightly out that makes it difficult to fit it

I have a T420S and hate the screen. There used to be a kit to upgrade it but it looks like the guy who sells them isn't doing it any more. Should I buy a new thinkpad or is there any alternate way to upgrade to a better screen?

>>56364632
>>not getting a W520
>Not really, good start for thinkpads. :3
Eh, doesn't seem worth it. If I was gonna get something more powerful I'd get a bigger screen too, like 17"

>>56368150
not the guy with the problem >>56351855 is the dude that can fit the drive.

>>56368248
>17" laptop

>>56368283
I'm not sure how much bigger they make them but 19" probably would be my upper limit.

I'm getting an x62 sometime this month. reminder that I'm going to be posting pics here, maybe even a thread.

>>56366993
t510 is 16:9 you tard
http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/lenovo-thinkpad-t510-review/
>15.6-inch HD+ LED-backlit Display (1600×900)
>1600x900
obviously the one they got isn't 1080p, but they do exist, and they are 16:9
t500 was 16:10 though
>>56368283
not everyone is a pussy who carries their laptop with them on their 30 mile run to school barefoot
some people just want a computer that's portable, and powerful as fuck

Does the X230t has a msata slot?

>>56367930
カラー means with color, as in not monochrome. 色 just means color. idk how this pertains to the picture tho.

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>>56369936
Because the lid is colored, durr.

>>56366563
>useless right alt
That shit is essential you dumbfuck.

>fn ctrl retardation
Joke's on you.

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Playing around with the new x200, i realized why tablets are so popular for browsing.

When you use a tablet, you have it in your hands, and place it wherever it feels confortable for your neck.

When you use a laptop, you have it in your lap, and the head must point there, regardless whether it is confortable or not for your neck.

So, using the laptop as a shitpostan machine, on the sofa, is unconfortable

Man, my x200 has less and less uses as time passes.

>>56369898
Two mpci-e slots that can be used as msata, although one fo them doesn't have enough clearance for msata SSD's.

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That bad feeling when you want an x220/30 with 9-cell battery + the slice battery for ultimate battery life but just can't seem to justify the expense to yourself seeing as how it would just be a toy to fuck around with :(((((((

>>56370383
THIC

>>56355833
There is a screw underneath. Remove the battery to locate the screw dumbass.

tfw bought an x230 today after selling my edge
idk how should i feel
i hope i didnt get memed
i want a portable laptop for programming n sheeit

>>56370673
What edge?
I know someone that had of the newer (two years old) thinkpad edge.
>1080p
>iGPU
>16GB RAM
>SSD
The whole ordeal.
Half a year later problems started appearing.
Structural:
>keys with fading labels
>one wonkey hinge
>stained case (don't know how that was possible desu)
Hardware:
>USBs acting strange

A piece of shit.
He was amazed that my x230 was older and performed better, with better build quality.

Should I get a T420s for $235 or a X230t for $280. Found a lot of them in used laptop shops in our country

>>56370774
e540 fullhd gt740 8gb ram ssd in m.2 plus 1tb hdd, i7 4702mq
hinges were uneven and battery life meh simply not what i need

just had my thinkpad t420 with nvidiot gpu delivered, p gud

/blog

>>56371677
nice

Is it possible to add WWAN to an X220 that didn't come with it?

>>56371955
yes
but why would you want to?
most wwan solutions for laptops are terrible.

>>56368052
You played LoL on an X300? Vids please.

>>56368093
I think when IBM was in the game, laptops were slightly more important. But remember that those fuckers also dropped the ball, since there were all sorts of flexing motherboard problems and the like on later T4x series. Quality actually improved a bit under Lenovo in that regard, at least at first.

As for Academia and private professionals, I think they have mostly switched to Macs and Lenovo could not care less. But at some point, Dell and HP are going to start wooing enterprise over to their own business lines. And then Lenovo will be trapped under its own shitty reputation. And rest assured, they will be in trouble.

>>56371993
Not really, you just have to get a good wwan card.

So guys I am about to pull the trigger on an x61t in good condition. I really have never been able to use any w i d e s c r e e n s on a laptop, and I figure this is about my only option at this point.
Anyways, my main questions are do any of you have experience with said laptop, and what are some recommended upgrades?
Buying with 4 GiB of ram, core 2 duo, 128 GiB ssd, not sure i need much more than that.

>>56371927
gonna see if it runs dotard 3 else i'm returning it

>>56366999
I got it after I bought it from Ali, not as a whole computer. Worth it for the questions people will give you about it!