/agt/ Audio General Thread I just invented this general because

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>>56302540
Easily the best audio (non musical) purchase I've made in like the last five years. It's phenomenal for the price.

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I got these a couple months ago

Can't complain, good purchase

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marantz amp1
kef ls50
akg k712 pro

>>56302929
Are you a youtuber?

>>56302953
no?

>>56302959

Streamer? Just asking because of the mic and pop shield but hi-fi amp and speaker set up

>>56302975
i used to do some gaming in the past, i used to do some music as well

now i solely use it all casually

>>56302983
Gotcha. How are the Kefs?

>>56302992
splendid, i didn't do much comparisons and directly jumped from dali zensor 1

i just felt this was the ideal purchase for me according to reviews, i wanted something analytical with tendencies to musical. the direct opposite would have probably been the B&W 685 S2 if i would have target for more value per dollar but i wanted the design of the kef's so badly as well

one good thing as well is that they increased in price so i could sell them atleast for the same value as i bought them 2 years ago

>>56302540
cba with taking a pic, scarlett 2i4+yamaha hs5, can't complain

>>56302779
fucking kek

you are like the polar opposite of an audiophile retard, but still a retard, just in a different kind of way

>>56302929
those kef speakers look like plastic toys

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>>56302929
nice setup

here's mine
M-Audio M3-8
Audio interface in RMA because Scarlett Solo was too noisy and the speakers are ultra sensible. Looking forward to Roland Duo Capture EX, with balanced outputs i shouldn't fear any ground noise

>>56302929
Nice setup man, love it. I once auditioned the LS50, really nice speakers, but in the end I went for the R500.

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Reminder to have good source audio components.

>>56303247
that desk gotta go

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I rarely come to /g/, but came tonight to see if there were any audio threads. Hope these threads keep coming!

Tannoy Cheviot
NAD C350
Pro-ject Debut Carbon DC
Pro-ject Tube Box DS
Denon AVR-2807 (pre-out to the NAD)

Yes, i'm still arranging everything, probably this is not even the room that will host my setup

>>56303453
Jesus all that equipment
Nice

>>56303321
What's that anon?

>>56304520
Seems to be an amplifier..

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>>56302540
>>56303453
Super Proud of you guys. Remind me from 10 years ago.

Now i have rackmount 32/384 digital crossovers and eq's driving 6 custom amps i designed and built (triamped stereo) with a 1KW subwoofer i built and designed from scratch. Its all time aligned and eq'd with measurement microphone feeding real time into the dsp cores.

Got a pretty large collection of 24bit vinyl rips and SACD on my 6tb NAS, Keep building friends and you will end up like me.

>COMFYASFUCK.jpg

>>56305031
How are you ripping SACD? I've been wanting to buy some, but am reluctant to if I can't archive them

>>56303074
got em

>>56305031
Any measurements of your set up?

>>56305045

i download the the ripped sacd.iso from rutracker (its free)

I archive it and play and downconvert the DSD to PCM in real time with jriver media centre. It is the cornerstone of the modern audiophile. Not many people know about it because few care about bit perfect playback.

>>56305132
Probably because 16/44 is transparent

>>56305075

Real world 20hz - 20khz its pretty flat +/- 6db and it scales up to to 115db (c) weighted. It literally shakes the house. When equalizing i am literally fighting the house. It literally cant hold the noise and act non-linearly

>>56305181
That's pretty impressive. How come you don't have any acoustic treatment though?

>>56305156

>nope.jpg

24bit is transparent not 16. And i was talking more about the audio path from the program. No software mixing/direct access. Also jitter and timing errors in the digital interconnect smart ass.

>>56305234
16 is transparent. Jitter isn't even a problem with any competent cheap DAC.

I'm looking for a good surround sounder speaker set that has tall (sofa-height) speakers and a corner subwoofer. What's a good price range and brands I should be looking for?

what's the LSR305 of passive speakers?

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>>56305217

You dont need acoustic treatment when you hi res real time eq and time alignment $$$

what i need is a more solid house.

>build high end audio gear
>end up having to uprage house not gear....

>>56305330
Define surround sounder speaker

>>56305386
Shit sounds slick

>>56306014
5.1 channel with your standard FL, FR, FCenter, RL, RR, and subwoofer layout. I just want to buy a proper audio set-up for once for my 280 sq ft living room

>>56306251
How much money you want to spend?

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If i had to connect my speakers to the audio interface, and the speakers have xlr and trs out, and the audio interface has only trs out, it's better to use a trs to trs cable or a xlr to trs cable, since both outs are balanced?

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>Setup
Pioneer VSX-59TXi monster receiver
NHT Classic 3 Bookshelves (Fronts)
NHT SB2 Bookshelves (surrounds)
2X NHT SW10 Subwoofer
MDR-V6 Headphones

I also occasionally switch out the Pioneer for a B&K 307 or a Rotel RX-1050

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>>56303017
When I bought mine, I listened to both and didn't care too much for the kefs

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a-am I allowed h-here?

>Scarlett solo
>Presonus 4.5 eris monitors
>CAD GXL2200 condenser microphone

I'm probably too poor for you guys.

>>56307044
What's a good price to start at? I'm willing to spend just enough for decent sound systems, but $1K+ sound systems can go suck a dick.

>>56305031
>Digital EQs
>Fucking digital EQs
I guess you're a vinylfag so nothing I say can hurt you

Fluance SX6 powered by a SMSL Q5


yay or nay?

>>56305386
>Real time EQ over acoustic transparency
>20hz-20khz
Yep, that seals it, kys my man

>>56307071
why you posting my room tho fa.m

>>56303247
That keyboard looks nice, fully weighted?

That desk is so fucking american lel

>>56307769
Don't those alexis keyboard have shit sensitivity?

Doesn't matter if it's just for producing music I guess.

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>>56302727
is that from the company that makes $1000 USB cables?

>>56307769
Anon, plastering your front wall with foam doesn't do shit. Should've at least done first reflections

>>56307976
Alesis*
It's 50/50, it's sensitivity is too bad, the white keys play pretty nice, but the black keys are a bit more sensitive overall.

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Alright, so I have a logitech 5.1 computer speaker system that I use because all of the speakers are small and fit on my desk / under my monitors. I also have a pair of sennheiser HD600s that I pretty much use exclusively recently because the electronics have recently started to go on the speakers.

It seems my only options are
>buy huge speakers + a huge sub woofer + a huge receiver and do 5.1 the right way, possibly spending >$500 in the process
>buy another shitty 'computer speaker' set that is convenient and small

I'm in an apartment setting, so I can't even use the speakers at high volume anyways nor do I even really use high amounts of bass.

Are there other options?

Are there any computer speaker sets that aren't trash?

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>>56308019
Looked them up...

>In 1982 Sony gave us “Perfect sound forever,” along with the attitude that, “it’s just digital, so all CD players sound the same.” That was disproved and qualitative differences between players became accepted truth. Next came separate transport and DAC combos, which brought with it the attitude that “all S/PDIF digital audio cables sound the same…” until that too became disproved. Now the frontier has moved once again. Is digital audio really just ones and zeros? We don’t believe so, and once you’ve had a chance to listen to Diamond USB, you won’t think so either…


''Disproved''

I wonder what they mean by that, probably fuckin subjective opinions kek.

>>56308088
Just get 2 good-ass stereo monitors for $300.
That ".1" sub is literally worthless if you have good speakers and 5 channel isn't that great on its own

>>56308021
>he can see the treatment that's outside of the picture.

I have squares set up on the wall behind me, and on each corner of the top wall in the room, however, I didn't go too crazy with rest of the room, just enough to catch some of the reverb from the speakers, as I live in an apartment, and just moved in a couple months ago. I have the foam plastered behind my pc to just have a non empty wall, and to catch some of my voice, so it doesnt reflect back to my mic, and reflect back to my wall that touches the other unit.

>>56308088
Small but good bookshelf speakers (5)
Small but good subwoofer (1)
Some low power 5.1 receiver

That's it.

>>56308144
I see. Well you at least have some room acoustic control, that actually makes your set up better than most here...

>>56308136

The 5 channel is nice for gaming though, it is nice to be able to have directional audio come from behind me.

I'll think about buying just a stereo set though, especially since I dont use the sub.

How would these monitors interface with my PC? I have 5.1 out and optical out on my mobo, would I need to buy a receiver still?

>>56308153

Any recommended (and small?) receivers?

>>56308056
That's a shame. Style wise they look really good. I think I nearly bought your one before I researched alesis keyboards properly.

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>>56302779

I'm thinking of buying the Wharfedale diamond 220s. Anyone have any experience with these speakers, or have anything to suggest that would be better? They seem fairly cheap where I live (UK) compared to other speakers of similar performance.

>>56303321
Is that Class A?

>>56308188
If you have 5.1 output in your motherboard, you COULD hook that directly to some powered speakers, but getting a receiver or audio interface or DAC would make adjusting that setup way easier, and if you're using a good DAC/interface it'll likely improve to audio quality

>>56308277

So from what I understand then, I really want to buy a receiver and then run optical out from my mobo to the receiver, and then use the receiver to power / change the volume of the speakers?

Will I lose the ability to control the volume through windows if I use a receiver?

>>56308188
Literally any receiver. Probably won't make a difference

>>56308244
Possibly. But since it's Japanese, it's probably superior class AB

>>56305031
yeah but your tellys shit tho

>>56308310
Depends on if your use ASIO sound driver or not. ASIO brings you nearly zero latency but removes adjustments from the software side
If you're using the same sound driver on your motherboard then you'll still have software volume control

>all of these speakers on the desk or right up to the wall

Please get some stands and give them some breathing room

>>56308459
>covers room in egg cartons
>sticks speakers in the corner

>>56308459
Totally fine as long as it's front ported

>>56308495
Not really

>>56308493
Fucking this lol
Or placing them at the edge of the desk where the wavefronts converge beneath your head

>>56308495
I guess but it's up to them to know in the first place

>>56308562
It's not quite as good but nearly. My setup has been posted in here by someone else and you can see my wharfdales stuck to the wall.

I only did that because I couldn't find decent wall mounted shelves for them and there wasn't space on my desk to put them down.

They still sound good.

>>56302540
Are those speakers good? I'm looking for a good pair of active speakers for less than 350€

> inb4 why not passive

I don't want to mess around with amplifiers desu, and it simplifies connections

>>56308136
>Just get 2 good-ass stereo monitors for $300.
Suggestions?=

>>56303321
ffcossag is that you who's been shitposting with this in /hpg/ lately?

>>56302929
>k712 pro

Really good headphones m8 although the bass is a bit sloppy imo

I sold mine and bought 600's. No regrets.

>>56308589
Stands are called stands and not shelves for a reason. Spend $50 and put your speakers wherever you want, at whatever angle you want, isolated and out of the way.
It's not that hard

>>56302929
>LS50
sound awful

>>56308677
I got mackie MR5s a few years ago and am fairly satisfied with them. Wish I had gotten bigger cones (more than 5") so that the bass would stay perfect with the other frequencies, but they still sound fantastic. I wanted to get a small sub for them but instead I opted for some meme-yellow rokit 8's (used so I didn't overpay

Any recs for DSP devices to use in living room for room response correction? I would really like to have a device before my integrated amplifier so that whatever I feed to it, it'll go through the DSP and apply correction.

>>56308775
miniDSP

R8 my rig :^]
>Yamaha Cr 420 stereo receiver
>Phillips 5171 cassette deck
Not pictured
>Realistic minimus 77
>Akg q701

>>56307857
It's nice and catch attention

I got a pair of KEF Ls50s during the Amazon Prime Day sale this summer. Currently I am waiting for a Parasound Halo integrated amp to arrive while making my own speaker stands for the KEFs.

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>>56308855
Shit that was an awful picture. I should get a real camera or at least a newer phone.

>>56308971
sell them and buy some speakers that sound good

>>56309012
>sell them and buy some speakers that sound good
Such as what, I see you complaining about them yet offering zero alternatives while also claiming that they sound bad despite a wealth of reviews that say the exact opposite.

>>56308705
I literally cant the way my room is set up. That's why I stuck them on the wall. They sound good enough and I most use tv and ps4 through them so it doesn't matter that much anyway. I have hd600's for my music.

>>56309054
even micca mb42x sound better than the ls50, price has nothing to do with it and you just overpaid for shitty bookshelves.

anything from philharmonic audio, omega or the fostex madisound kits will absolutely obliterate the ls50

>>56308963
why thank you :3

>>56309144
>a random poster on /g/ knows better than many other people in the audio world about what sounds better than something else
I really doubt it. When I got them it was a toss up between a pair of magnepan mini's or the Ls50.

Keep assuring people on an anonymous image board that you know better though.

>>56309183
>magnepan
hahaha thanks for exposing just how clueless you are when it comes to audio.

let me guess you take cnet reviews seriously right? fuck i actually feel bad for you now.

>>56309183
>toss up between a pair of magnepan mini's or the Ls50
Well at least you picked the better one out of two shit options.

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I know this isn't audiophile, but I got it cheap to hold me over til I could source some good monitors.

>>56309195
>>56309199
Well my choices are dictated by space constraints and given my current living situation they fit the room rather nicely. Sorry that I dont make the same choices you do.

Sometimes I forget that people on 4chan confuse their opinions with facts all the time.

>>56309233
They do a job but they aren't even surround sound are they? Don't they just put pretty much the same channel through all of them?

>>56309274
I think they're surround, but it's pretty poor.
I can never hear anything coming from the back speakers and they're just 5ft behind me.

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>>56309274
The sad thing is is that I had picked these up at first and changed my mind last minute.

>>56309265
>Sometimes I forget that people on 4chan confuse their opinions with facts all the time.
That's not what happens. LS50 is not a good loudspeaker because:

-Directivity is bad, especially horizontally.
-On-axis response is quite significantly colored, response has broad swings across the band.
-Coaxial driver is poor in terms of integration, the crossover transition is noticeable. There are better performing coaxial driver designs from KEF alone.
-LF extension is average.

I can't say much about the specific Magnepans but I've never seen a planar or an electrostatic loudspeaker which performed admirably. Poor LF extension and very constrained directivity tend to be their main problems. LF extension is sometimes aided by a(poorly integrated) ported sub but you can't do anything about the directivity and that severely limits what you can fix by DSP.

>>56309351
>I can never hear anything coming from the back speakers and they're just 5ft behind me.
That's not because of the speakers, that's because of their positioning or simply because you aren't listening to multi channel content.

>>56309580
>positioning or simply because you aren't listening to multi channel content.

I'm sitting directly in the middle of them. They're at the height of my ears and they're angled towards them.
Still don't hear much in games or movies.
I'm certain that everything is configured correctly in software as well.

>>56309580
>Directivity is bad, especially horizontally.
The room is fairly small and they are put at ear level.

>On-axis response is quite significantly colored, response has broad swings across the band.
Doesnt seem that bad right now, but things change.

>Coaxial driver is poor in terms of integration, the crossover transition is noticeable. There are better performing coaxial driver designs from KEF alone.
I do agree with you here but the other designs were simply out of my price range.

>I can't say much about the specific Magnepans but I've never seen a planar or an electrostatic loudspeaker which performed admirably. Poor LF extension and very constrained directivity tend to be their main problems. LF extension is sometimes aided by a(poorly integrated) ported sub but you can't do anything about the directivity and that severely limits what you can fix by DSP.
The only reason the Magnepans were even being considered was their small footprint.

im using an asrock h97 pro

do i really need a dac if im going to be spending about £50 on some new headphones?

i dont have any crackle as of now.

>>56309659
To add, do you have any recommendations for different speakers later that would work with the Parasound Halo Integrated amp I have?

>>56309758
1. You have a DAC.
2. Price is not relevant.

>>56308179
Yeah, most people fail to actually pay attention to reverb, or people who actually have speakers setting flat on a desk, without any foam to prevent bass build up. I wish I could go crazy on my treatment, but, apartment...

>>56308215
For the price range, you're not going to find anything better. You're gonna have to fork out $250-300 more to find something that's a bit noticeable better.

>>56309788
does quality of headphones not have relevance to the need for a dac? so you are saying if i dont have crackle then i dont need one and my mobo is enough?

>>56309831
DAC only affect sound quality very mildly, you probably won't notice a difference unless you're very sensitive to placebo

>>56309391
I had these exact speakers. Sometime before 2010 they switched production from the USA to China. They also cheapened up the circuit boards by combining them with a power supply or something like that.

They sounded amazing for the price. Everything from the lowest lows to the highest highs were loud and clear. Subwoofer was excellent.

BUT, my control pod (on the right speaker in picture) started going out after a week. Like it would go mute at certain positions on the volume knob. It was just what I read in the reviews about the control pod breaking easily.

Sure enough, I went to two big box stores and both display models were broken.

They even sell the control pod separately because it breaks so easily. The reviews are a shit:

http://www.klipsch.com/products/klipsch-promedia-2-1-computer-speakers#control-pod

I think the other Klipsch products should be fine, have not tried them. They are expensive but hopefully as good as the 2.1 speakers in the picture.

>>56309860
i got you senpai.
how do i know if i need an amp?

>>56309964
>how do i know if i need an amp?
If the headphone isn't loud enough. Never mind the faggots that say the AKGs require monster amps to sound good

whats the fuckin point if you listen to youtube music with the or watch torrented movies?

>>56309988
thank you for being level headed. its tough to get logic from audiophiles

>>56309831
>does quality of headphones not have relevance to the need for a dac?
Yes that is indeed how it is. DA-conversion is a solved problem in audio. It's not of importance regardless of what you have for headphones or loudspeakers. If your DA-converter doesn't produce anything audible like hiss, interference, crackling or whatever might be there which isn't supposed to, it's very likely transparent and thus a part which you shouldn't focus on.

Unless of course you need something else than DAC, which I think you do as you mentioned headphones already. You don't plug headphones into a DAC. People tend to use the abbreviation DAC for various of devices which do plenty more than just the conversion such as preamplifier with a DAC in it or a motherboard integrated codec which is a multi-channel DAC, headphone amplifier, digital processor and ADC all-in-one.

Price is not a indication of quality past the bottom of the barrel options. And this really applies to loudspeakers/headphones and amplifiers. A top end Realtek chip costs a dollar or two to make and performs exceptionally well.

Amplifier/DAC checklist:
-Is it too quiet?
-Is the output impedance too high (fixable by equalization)?
-Is there noise/EMI or hiss to it?
-Does it sound distorted as you start to crank up the volume?
If the answer is no, you don't need one.

>>56309995
How is what someone listens important in any way?
>inb4 audio bottleneck myths

>>56310005
Audiophiles will tell you different cables and different colores hear cups will make an headphone sound different

>>56310009
>Price is not a indication of quality
i fucking hate this about the audio community so fucking much. extreme amounts of disdain for this.

thanks for the advice though
how can i tell if the impedance is too high?

>>56310035
Different woods of earcups definitively do.

>>56310124
Divide the headphone impedance by 8 and that's the maximum output impedance the amp should have. For instance, don't use an amp with 10ohm with earbuds that are 32ohm

>>56309821
True. I ended up buying this for around £250. The keys have a very nice feel and it's consistent.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Roland--800PRO-USB-MIDI-Controller/dp/B0042D8N82/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472415324&sr=8-1&keywords=roland+800

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>>56307071
>speakers against the wall

>>56310335
>>speakers against the wall
Not the same anon, but It's hard to have enough space. Still better than buying tiny satellites

>>56303453
Dusty as fuck. Love all your equip, but man, for the love of God clean your shit

>>56303286
i would have gone for tower speakers aswell but my roomsetup doesn't allow for any bigger dimensioned speakers

>>56308717
they sound good, a bit metalic in some voices but very dynamic and accurate

>>56310124
That's a checklist which kinda covers everything important. As for output impedance, you could check if someone has specified the value for your device. If it's a motherboard I highly doubt it. You can also calculate it if you have some wire, a resistor and a multimeter/oscilloscope at hand. More useful would be to check the impedance function of the headphones to see if they are prone to FR shift due to high output impedance in the first place(damping). If they are, the resulting FR shift is predictable and fixable with parametric EQ filter or two.

Headphones with flat impedance curve or headphones with very high impedance are more or less immune to FR shifts due to poor damping and aren't a problem. Even with the worst case impedance curves the 1/8th "rule" >>56310174 is fine. Make sure your headphone impedance is eight times as high or more than the output impedance of your amplifier.

To be honest, I wouldn't fret on it. Most computer electronics don't go crazy with the output impedance, many headphones are fairly immune to the effect and in the case when they aren't, you can easily fix the "issue" in software. The sound as a result of poor damping might even be preferable to some. You can ignore it. Ask /hpg/ if some model interests you whether you should even care about the output impedance at all with the model.

>>56310353
HS8's aren't satellites bruh

>>56310423
I wasn't talking about those. I was saying I'd rather have monitors stuck against a wall than buying small satellite speakers

>>56310335
I already explained that I had to wall mount them because of my setup and I built the left desk myself. We don't all have ayylmao desks with freaky speaker arms sticking out.

My speakers are used with tv as background noise 90% of the time and my ps4 the rest. They're front firing and sound fine, they're also part of a 5.1 system and non of the others are against the wall.

I could mock your inferior keyboard if we want to get edgy but that's another story.

>>56305031

>behringer EQ
>behringer ultradrive

holy kek, fucking dropped. Your '32/384' digital crossover and EQ couldn't be more budget if you tried

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Presonus AudioBox
AT2020 XLR
AK490 Keyboard
Mackie CR3 Monitors

>>56310335

Is that a Push on the right? Is it good as a controller?

so i have a 60" 4k tv in my living room. i'm using the built in speaker but i'm interested in getting something better. can anyone give me some suggestions for something in the $500 range? thanks.

>>56309995
>listening to jewtube music
nice projection, faggot.

Any recommendation for bookshelf speakers, I have 150 for a pair already got a SMSL Q5

Is there such thing as a good, cheap DAC/AMP from Amazon?
Currently have a Leak for my speakers, would like something for my MDR-V50s, but wouldn't mind using one unit for both speakers+headphones, I can just switch the plug

hey fags, dropping by for a quick question

I have a bunch of vinyl records I'd like to rip. What's a good piece of hardware to do so for <$50?

>>56311165
*Lepai, not Leak

Looking for a DAC/AMP with optical out, and heaphones out too

>>56311165
The e10k is the definition of a good, cheap dac+amp from amazon lol.

No idea how it works with speakers though.

>>56310291
Roland is a nice brand, I didn't know they made entry level keyboards. I personally don't care for synth action keys though, I would like hammer action, but I'm stuck with semi wieght, since I cant justify higher price tags, as I don't even really play now.

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My brother's shit-nozzle for a cat chewed my m50s. Any recommendations for new headphones? Preferably under $200, closed back, and flat response. No high impedance memeage, please.

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http://philharmonicaudio.com/aa.html

What does /g/ think of these? Some anon recommended them to me a few months ago but idk.

>>56311286
Yeah it's not really worth it unless you're actively playing/learning. I'll be keeping mine for life I think. The action is nice enough to play and learn and I don't feel the need to own an 88 key.

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>>56308692
I'm just a fan of his. The shitposter on /hpg/ doesn't even post good source audio components, only overpriced chinkshit with a Japanese badge on it.

>>56311352
those Phillips ones for cheap are nice The ones with the L and R marked on sides. Not to bad.

>>56311523
That amp..thing on the left looks sexy as fuck.

What headphones do you use with your o2?

>>56311385
My first midi was a novation, the action was really awful, felt like dull springs. A good synth action keyboard is great for those quick melodies, and I'm sure your keyboard is really well built for that price level, being roland and all. I'll probably stick with mine for a long while as well, I would personally like a 88 key, but 61 is good enough for casual leaning, and playing.

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I might get the Yamaha HS8 once I move to a bigger room. For now I'm happy with my setup.

>>56311681
i'm also looking for an 88-key controller, preferrably full-weighted for emulating that actual piano feel

i have a mininova and the action kinda sucks but i'll just be controlling it with the other anyway
what would you recommend? i generally dislike m-audio btw

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>>56311644
My old weeb phones

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Using these speakers. >>56309791
Sony SS-MB150H

Not bad for a thrift store find.

>>56311720
I'm the other guy and I would recommend that you get a digital piano if you want 88 keys.

I ordered one from amazon knowing I could send it back and wow.. it was huge. even bigger and heavier than I anticipated. I ended up sending it back as it didn't really fit with my desk/setup. The fully weighted keys were really strange compared to what I'm used to but I would have stuck with it if it fit in my room properly.

If you want to use 88 keys, and by that i'm guessing you want to learn to 'play' then there is no point in fucking around with semi weighted keyboards. Get a digital piano by yamaha etc from amazon. You can always return it hassle free if you don't want it.

Anyone have that huge purchase guide for eu/us? Involves speakers, amps etc.

Im on the hunt for a pair of speakers around the 300-500euro range. Theres so many odd brands Ive never seen before.

>>56311748
I sold my 702's (which are exactly the same as k701's?) for hd600's.

The 600's are better imo but the sound stage and seperation is crazy on the 702's.

>>56311875
I've been meaning to try out the HD600 for forever. Right now I don't have the bucks but maybe I'll get myself a present for Christmas.

>>56311813
i mostly want one to control shit in Logic and Ableton as well as my synth

it doesn't reaaaally need to be full-weighted, i just comfortable keys that approach the piano feel

>>56303247
Hah, only a faggot plays violin or piano. Are you homosexual?

I'm lucky with my setup, my dad baught (a long time ago) a B&O Beomaster 6000 and 2x B&O rl140.

>>56311913
The 701's/702's are technically brilliant but a bit harsh, and flat when it comes to the bass. The 600's have pretty much no sound stage in comparison but the actual sound signature is god tier so sound stage means nothing at that point. Keep them in mind and buy them from amazon if you do. Again, if for some reason you don't like them you can return them hassle free and when it comes to the 600s/650s they actually send a courier to your house to pick them up for free lol so you can't lose.

I've got a klipsch 2.1 right now, if I got an amp and dac with some good speakers would it make up for having no sub? I like the boom

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Just got my 7506s in the mail. These are great.

>>56311915
You're best off not getting 88 keys and getting 61 if you just plan on making music etc.

From what I've seen you will get nothing but trash if you're looking for a midi 88 key. Maybe there are a few exceptions but they would be very expensive if they exist.

Sennheiser HD 800
Schiit Valhalla 2 and Bifrost

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My boys

>>56312259
Nice setup. What amp is that and do you think that tube does anything lel

>>56312292
Is a very good headphone amp for 100$ (bravo audio ocean) and is pretty, i dont give a fuck about the tube i own a ibasso D42 too,

>>56308136
Not many 2.0 can handle the very low frequencies with authority the way a subwoofer can, even when nearing summit-fi gear. Having said that, 2.0 usually does everything else better than any 2.1 can do at the same price point

>>56311915
>>56312243
Pretty much, if you want a nice 88 hammer action, midi keyboard, you're gonna want to look at the $1000+ range, looking at Roland, Yamaha, or step forth and find a nord keyboard.

>>56312169
Well, no bookshelf speaker is gonna give you that shake. But what you will get from a nice small speakers is fidelity in other frequencies.

>>56312342
>Not many 2.0 can handle the very low frequencies with authority the way a subwoofer can, even when nearing summit-fi gear. Having said that, 2.0 usually does everything else better than any 2.1 can do at the same price point

When you buy used, this kind of goes out the window. You can find outstanding deals on used audio gear locally. I got my pair of NHT Classic 3's for $100, pair of NHT SB2's for free, pair of NHT SW10's for Free, Pioneer VSX-59TXi for $40, Rotel RX-1050 for $40, B&K 307 for $80, etc. You can find this stuff used for a small fraction of the MSRP if you know where to look.

>>56312066
Stfu dude only a retarded can say some deep shit like this, go kill yourself.

>>56308628
Bx8 Carbon are quite cheap and active
I have M3-8, i already posted them in the thread

>>56312066
Only a chad has zero taste or talent.

Kill yourself lad.

>>56307659
Nice
Also nice acquarium

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best monitor for a project studio? recording and mixing primarily

€600 max for a pair

was thinking of either focal alpha 65, adam f7s or yamaha hs7

thoughts?

>>56312599
Best thing to do is to find an audio store and actually listen to what you want to buy.

Focal's low end really aren't worth the money.

Yamahas are good, but will squeeze your budget to the limit.

Paradigm Atoms are good monitors for the money, but as I mentioned before, find a store and listen first.

>>56312066
>Says someone who unironically enjoys ghetto rap
If you want to know i also handwrite and compose classical music
But i'm no faggot, i have a gf, i simply have been studying violin since i was 8yo
And i'm fucking good at it

>>56312554
>Bx8 Carbon

What about the JBL LSR308?

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>>56307883
Half weighted, i just use it to have something to play when i compose, i also have a real piano for playing seriously, but i never play seriously piano since my main insteument is violin

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Anyone collect/listen to vinyl? I'm wanting to build a setup but I'm not sure what to get. Budget is 300 for a turntable, and 100 for bookshelf speakers. Thanks.

>>56312694
https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT-LP120-USB-Direct-Drive-Professional-Turntable/dp/B002S1CJ2Q

I'm looking for some sort of an audio analyzer. How can I measure like amplifiers and shit? Do I need expensive lab equipment or are there cheap things?

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Thrift store setup here. Onkyo TX-8511 receiver and a pair of Celestion model 1's. Still always on the thrift hunt for a Marantz or other decent receiver. Sounds much better than the Logitech x540 system I had.

>>56312735
This is the one I was considering, thanks. If I wanted to use headphones with this I would still need to buy a headphone amp right? Do you have any recommendations for one that I could us with this?

>have a pair of Canton gle 100 hooked up to a Kenwood da 9010
>amps optical input seems to be dying, sound cuts out for 1-3 seconds from time to time
>switched toslink cable hoping it could be the cable
>nope
>got a soundcard with optical out because I hope my gaymen motherboards optical out mihgt just be shit
>nope

hold me /g/ the amp just looks to sexy to replace...

>>56312864
https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-E10K-Headphone-Amplifier-Black/dp/B00LP3AMC2/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1472426018&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=e10k

>>56312680
Nice. I can only borderline play a weighted keyboard but the piano and violin have always been my two favorite instruments in life.

>>56312832
that trackball mouse is it good ?

>>56312832
Nice overall. You really could do with a 24" monitor though. You could still surround it with bargain audio goods.

>>56307624
very good looking, nice job anon

>>56307624
that black chair , how do you search for such one , does it have a certain name ?
been looking for one like that , after visiting a bank , fucking hell you can sit on them nicely.

>>56308310
No, almost every audio interface allows you to adjust volume either with the knob either through software

>>56312657
Also, they are a good alternative.
The Carbon series in my opinion is almost at same level of jbl lsr30X series

>>56312932
I like it, probably the best one for the money you can buy today, since nobody makes trackballs anymore.

>>56312934
Thanks. I'm currently looking at 27 inch monitors, might go with Acer again since I've had this one for almost 10 years and it has survived multiple moves to different states.

>>56312995
Cool. I'm guessing that's a 21"?

A 24" with a thinner bezel might surprise you. A 27" is REALLY big compared to a 24

I memed me a pair of LSR305 and mounted them on stacks of paperbacks, they're bretty good.

>>56305338
Uhhhh, Infinity Primus something something?

>>56305338
What's the none meme version of the LSR305 and LSR308? The hissing they make can drive a saint insane

In terms of music/audio production, what is a nice monitoring headphone? they seem relatively cheap.

If it were to follow the same characteristics of monitors, I would assume that they give you the truest representation of what you are listening to without any boosting anywhere.

For example should I trust AKG k271s over Sennheiser HD598s? The bass response is quite lower, so It's like i am unsure which headphone to trust. Can anyone shed any light on this topic?

>>56313064
It's called properly configure you're gain so you don't have to crank the speakers' volume pot.

>>56302540
Cool keyboard,Love the color scheme.

Its also so small,does it type good?

>>56313130
Well fuck thats not a suitable image.

>>56310502
well your speakers are front ported anyway so it's not so bad

>>56311173
bump

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Hey /g/,
recently moved into a dorm to finish up my BS
I'd like to spend $300-400 on a speaker setup, including dac/amp whatever
might budge on the price a bit if really need by

I value clear overall sound, but would like decent enough bass without having to buy a sub (potential buy for the future, however)

Definitely need bookshelf speakers for the room

thoughts/ recommendations?
are the ELAC B6's as nice as cnet shills make them out to be?

>>56312902
You have good taste my dude

>>56312960

Herman Miller Aeron

>>56313536
Surely they are good speakers, you won't be disappointed

Anyone use the Teac HR-s101?

Is there a better dac+amp combo that has a decent headphone amp? I know it comes with speakers but I would likely replace that and eventually get a sub as well.

>>56305181
>+/- 6db
What about at -3dB? Y'know, because that's actually meaningful, unlike -6dB.

>>56313697
I was about to get that model, but i was worried that might not have enough juice. So i got the one a step above that, the AI-301DA.

Got it refurb for 299 USD and it sounds great on all outputs. It has way more power than my 8ohm Martin Logan MLT-1 satilites and Sub need (9 o'clock is get loud), so i guess the HR-S101 would be plenty powerful for most smaller speakers. Double check just to make sure though.

As for better? Maybe seprate units would be more optimal, but the Teac HR-S101 is pretty much competing alone for its price point and feature set.

>>56314087
is the 26w really not enough? it would just be to power the speakers I assume while a sub would have it's own power. I really don't know 100% what the shit i'm doing, but I'm wondering now if I should instead get a seperate DAC and amp if that is infact not enough juice

>>56311374
SOMEONE PLS HELP

>>56307624
>all that ultra-expensive Design Within Reach classics repro stuff
What do you do for a living that lets you afford such top end furniture?

>>56314186

I spent almost nothing on my gear or furniture. Such is the power of the used market.

>>56314159
It should be more than enough for small/midsize speakers 6ohms and below, within a small bedroom or living room. Still in doubt the, AL-301DA which is more that enough for almost any bookshelf speakers in a decent size living room.

The 26w is not enough for something like towers speakers, and yeah most consumer subs are externally powered so you only have to worry about sending a signal to it.
It would help to know what speakers you plan on using, and where.

>>56308677
Jbl lsr308 or m-audio bx8 Carbon
Those are active, but i suggest you buying a dac

>>56314497
>but i suggest you buying a dac
Already have FiiO E10K

Between those two, what are each one's advantages and disadvantages?

>>56308589
My fault, i posted them because i wanted to know if there are substantial differences between trs to trs cable vs trs to xlr male

>>56312832
>Thrift store setup
really the best option 2bh

I've gotten Klipsch RS-42s and numerous integrated amps as well as tvs and monitors for cheap

powered bookshelf speakers for turntable or passive with a dedicated power amp? Debating between this:
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1472434949&sr=1-2&keywords=micca+mb42
or this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NXAEPDC?psc=1

>>56314446
I haven't looked into speakers yet but it's going to be on my desktop in my office which is fairly small, I want to say about 10x13 or so, not a huge space. As far as speakers go, I'm looking in the $200 range

Can anyone rate this setup? Beginner to audiophile setups

Previously owned
>ath ad-700
>ath m35

Currently own
>Sennheiser 300Xii (portable)
>Logitech z623 (Desktop)

Looking to buy:
>DT880 pro 250 ohm
>SMSL sd793ii

>>56303247
Kinda offtopic but that's exactly the case I was looking at for my new build. I don't think you can buy that particular one anymore.

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Jeez you guys are intimidating me with your sick setups... but I think im gonna pick up the Logitech z623 soon, friend has had it for a while and recommends it and I only hear good things about it for the price. Anyone have experience with it?

>>56315476
>>56315811
I have them, I love them. Any questions?

>>56315811

Yes, it is shit. Almost all computer speakers are shit. Just look on Craigslist and buy a used receiver and bookshelves for the same money.

>>56315811

main thing I'm wondering is how they compare to more higher end set ups, but honestly I think they are the perfect speakers for me since its just going to be for my pc. I'll save the big bucks for a big TV audio set up.

>>56315887

>>56316180

meant this for you sorry

For amps that don't have an rca out... How do you connect a sub? Is it possible to run the speaker wires to a sub and run the passive speakers out from the sub?

>>56311173
>>56313496
double bump

Looking into buying wireless earbuds, any recommendations bellow 100 stones?

>>56317289

No. Wireless is a shit. Earbuds are a shit.

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>>56316476
Subs that have a "High level Input" is what you are looking for.

Anyone have experience with acoustic foam? There are cheap ones on eBay, like 40 50cmx50cm panels for < 200AUD. Are these any good? Do they hold their own against Auralex, or will they be utter shit, making little to no difference. Again, I'm trying to get a comparison with more expensive foam, not an opinion on whether acoustic foam works at all

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>>56308019

>>56314186
>job
obivously living in parents home.

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>>56302540
Yamaha HS80m
focusrite scarlett 2i4
Beyerdynamic DT-990 Pro
degauss labs noir (portable inear)

...I´ll probably buy a subwoofer for my hs80m soon ( if I get a good deal), is the yamaha hs10w subwoofer a good choice or is there a better sub out there for less?

>>56319197
That sub sucks
Really
My active soeakers have a better sub
I you want to buy a sub, go with SVSSB1000

>>56302727
That thing looks sexy.

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>>56319311
Not as sexy as dis bicch

>>56307798
sounds like you're just looking for a cheap HTIB that's gonna sound like trash then.

if your budget is under $1k, then you're better off getting a good pair of bookshelf speakers and a good subwoofer for a 2.1 set up.

It will sound a lot better than any 5.1 setup with a budget of under $1k.

get a 2.1 set up now and you can add the other speakers when you save up more money.

That's what I'm doing right now cus i'm a poor fag.
Early this year I bought some $300 bookshelves, a $500 subwoofer, and a $150 stereo receiver.

I'm hoping to find some good deals this blackfriday on the rest of the speakers and a more modern A/V receiver.

>>56302779
I have these, and they're great for what they are.

>>56319237
thx for your suggestion, I just read a review for that sub, seems to be a good sub for the money

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I wanted a stereo for my room.

I was trying to decide form getting and restoring an old ghetto blaster (Of which I know nothing about old Boom Boxes) or buying something new (Preferably with a Radio for ballgames).

Any suggestions?

>>56319404
What are you comparing them to?

>>56319442
My Acer monitor's built in speakers.

>>56319541
Room modes and reverb must be nice.

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Why do people buy plastic speakers ? Just get wooden ones.

>>56319541
This room does not belong to an audiophile

>>56315676
I bought it two months ago, it's the inwin 901, you can find it everywhere online

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>>56302540
+ o2 amp

>>56322714
Wish I could listen to that placebo.
> needing an O2 for the 990

>>56322735
wot a placebo ?
u tell me that i don't need amp as good as o2 amp ?
tell me moar

>>56322781
I say you should have bought a tube amp. that would make the DT990 sound much better. It cleans the sibilance and raises the mids a bit

>>56322796
I say you don't have the faintest clue about tubes or amplifiers to say this. Or maybe you're just taking the piss as that post is bait tier garbage.

>>56322825
I say my placebo is better than yours. My ears agree with my post

>>56322834
I say I truly don't give a shit about what your brain thinks you are hearing.

>>56322796
i heard that o2 amp gives you clean sound,
if you like your sound to be more juicy u use tubes

>>56322842
kek that's funny

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>>56322854
> o2
> clean

Nowhere near as clean as this

>>56322879
this shit is more expensive than car lol
we talk about normal price stuff

>>56317605
This would basically let you connect any speaker and amp set to the sub without the need for the amp to have an rca out then? Does this affect the speakers at all as opposed to using the rca on the sub, or do the speakers always go out from the sub if you're doing 2.1? Sorry for the stupid question, this is all new to me.

I'm looking at getting these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B019Y5TR6O/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_2?colid=1ZS4RH4AGZF7U&coliid=I3C4K4T2JA000N

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00F0H8TOC/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_3?colid=1ZS4RH4AGZF7U&coliid=I39VXZB50C2I3P

As a starter set for an amp and dac, I was looking into combo devices but I hear this is better to upgrade down the road. I haven't looked at speakers yet, but I want to make sure down the road this has the option to add a sub. So I need just need to look for something with the high input is what I understand.

>>56307624

Nice gear and nice room. Looks comfy as fuck.

>>56322879
Tubes... and you call it clean? Tubes are NOT clean.

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>speaker in the corner
Cry face

>>56324929
>Apple products
>SNL
>xbone
So, on your average day, how much semen leaks out of your asshole?

>>56324951
A lot unfortunately. Every PC I owned previously crashed anytime I hit around 8-10 tracks while recording. The iMac seems to have worked that out for me. The iMac is strictly used for audio production. I have an Asus q550l that I use daily. Just put a 500gb Samsung 850 EVO SSD in it and wew Laddy it feels brand new.

>>56325016
>Just put a 500gb Samsung 850 EVO SSD
I just ordered one of those from our overlords at Amazon, is it any good? It had thousands of reviews and the price was right, but reviews dont mean shit on Amazon I have noticed.

>>56325069
Aside from the dog shit Samsung Magician software that came with it the actual SSD itself has been great. The laptop is easily faster than even the day I bought it. I think it starts up in around 14-17 seconds now. Very happy with it anon

>>56325165
>Aside from the dog shit Samsung Magician
This is deletable though, right?

Truth be told I didnt order it, my dad got it for me as a gift randomly, I suspect he just got too many and just needed to make it look like he didnt get a box for himself in my mother's eyes. Hence my question about it.

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Are these any good for the price or will I get CHINK'D with a British twist?

>>56325223
Believe so. It was basically their transfer software..which froze nearly every time I went to transfer everything from my old hard drive. I wound up using some other program to transfer everything. Samsung Magician was like the TouchWiz of transfer software lol

>>56302540
Trying to buy some decent speakers for my computer, what should i get under $50?

I hook my ATH-M30 into my Thinkpad.
If I had the space, I'd probably do a nice battlestation with speakers and shit.

>>56325939
Nothing decent at that price. Get anything

>>56325975
Well if i buy it used im sure i can get some 100 dollar speaker for $50.

>>56325994
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NXAEPDC?psc=1

ffmpeg(mocp as frontend)>oss4 (software mixer at 'high' setting)>alc889 optical out>Violectric V800>SPL Auditor>HD800/T1.
Then there is the stax setup, i dont use it much.
I've sold all my decent speakers, now i have some cheapo boomers on Nakamichi power amp, which i use with Famicom, SFC, PCE, PSX, C64, Amiga 1200, X68000 and such.

>>56326099
By the way, i bought all these used: v800 for 350$, Auditor for 400$, T1 for 400$ and HD800 for 600$ (which was actually never used). The stax omegas+amp i got for laughable 250$.

>>56302540
>>56302929
>>56303247
>>56307769
>>56309406
>>56310335
>>56310840
>>56312259
>>56312832
>>56319197
>>56324929
It's beyond my comprehension why you place rear-ported monitors near the walls. If you can't afford a better room or simply don't care about sound quality too much, you'd better get a simple 2.1 speaker setup and call it a day.

>>56326164
Now those are some good fucking deals. But, do you prefer headphones over speakers or do you just not have the room?

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Currently using Teufel Motiv 2. I dont know if i should upgrade or if im getting in the deminishing returns area for my casual music listening/gaming/movie watching use case

[spoiler]I know Teufel is basically Logitech on steroids [/spoiler]

I bought akg 240s because anthony fantano told me to
Holy shit overear headphones are comfy.

I'm really stupid, if I bought JBL Studio 220 Monitors for a 2.0 setup, what amplifier should I get? The speakers are 125W and my budget is like 150 for an amp.

>>56326834
If you want new, there aren't many options. But used you could probably find something nice.

>>56326168
>rear-ported monitors
Speaking of which, can you recommend any side ported? or top ported? Anything but rear ported, if they exist at all

>>56323942
>This would basically let you connect any speaker and amp set to the sub without the need for the amp to have an rca out then?
Yes.
>Does this affect the speakers at all as opposed to using the rca on the sub, or do the speakers always go out from the sub if you're doing 2.1?
It does. Its best if your use a sub with a rca, since that will give it the most control over frequencies that it needs (Most subs generally can't use their crossover feature with High level imputs).

Also take this quote from Audioholics, which summarizes it pretty good.
>"Theoretically, it is better to use line level inputs than speaker level inputs for a powered subwoofer, because otherwise, the subwoofer simply reduces the power down to about a line level and then re-amplifies it, so you get the added distortion, noise, whatever, from the main power amplifier in addition to whatever is going on in the subwoofer, without benefiting from the power being used. However, if the main amplifier is good, then this is likely to make for an inaudible difference."

So yes it will affect the sound. If you have good amps then it shouldn't be an issue. That SMSL amp got good reviews, but i wouldn't trust it since they are somewhat poorly built. Lots of people says it sound good it that might be the case, but remember that people who usually buy that amp are first timers with little to no experience with other amps.

TLDR; Got a good amp and a good sub with High level imputs then your are good to go.

>>56327083

Wharfedale Diamond 220 or anything from NHT

>>56327083
Front-ported: Tannoy Reveal 502 or 802, depending on your room size. Before buying monitor speakers or speakers that are designed to reproduce music accurately, check your room though. Good speakers aren't simple plug and play devices, you should pay extra care on their placement, unless you don't mind wasting money. A good alternative to speakers is a good open headphone, which always sounds good no matter the environment you're using it in.

>>56302727
Is the red really worth being nearly double the price of the black?

>>56327198
>>56323942

Fucked up forgot this part.
>or do the speakers always go out from the sub if you're doing 2.1?

No. The norm in a 2.1 setup and above is when the speakers are connected to the amp/receiver using speaker wires, and the sub is connected via RCAs.

>>56325939
Try some edifier, but i suggest to wait and have more money, you are gonna waste them otherways

>>56326099
Post pics please

>>56326834
That's why i bought active speakers

Alright, need some help with what to do here. Two options, both seem good, but I don't know which one would be the better idea for price vs quality vs resources needed.

Bought a pair of pioneer cabinet(?) speakers for $15 at the thrifty. I'll need to get an receiver for about $40 from craigslist. This setup doesn't seem too bad to me, but I just want to know what's the proper way to connect it to my computer. Do I need any other equipment or is just plugging it in with an aux through the back good enough? Don't have a sound card or anything.

I also have the option to sell my speakers for something like $50, and buy a set of M-Audio BX5s I found at the pawn shop for about $75. I know I'll need some more stuff for these but I don't know the specifics. What would be the usual items I'd need to add on for them to work well on my computer?

One setup takes up a significant amount more space compared to the other, while the other will probably cost a lot more money. Plus, I have no idea if the BX5s have issues or not, since those pawn shop workers are scummy as fuck. I'm not a huge audiophile, but I do like to get lost in my music, so it'd be nice to have some good stuff to work with. What do, /g/?

>>56329517
Sell your speakers and get the bx5, they are perfect for desktop use if you are on budget, as i see. Also here they cost 100each, so both at 75 is really fucking good. They are active soeakers so you don't to do anything but plug them to the Pc with an aux to double trs cable. If you want to improve the sound quality and have the option to adjust volume with a knob just buy a DAC. But basically if you don't soend at least 100 on the dac the onboard audio of the Pc will be good the same. If you want a good cheap dac just take nuforce uDAC3, or uDAC 2

>>56327198
Is smsl generally known for lesser quality? Would you happen to have a recommendation for an amp with the rca out in the $100~200 range? Or at least which companies to avoid.

Last question on subs I had was what should you be looking for to match them up with a pair of speakers, or can they go with pretty much anything. I haven't even started looking at speakers yet but I assume I should pick those first then get a sub that compliments them